well pancake mix has a long shelf life so that batch they had in the kitchen could be 100% safe to it :))) not everything has cordyceps in it just because it was stored to next to some flower or sugar
In reality; if you cook any micro organism or plants then they will die. I don't really buy the story of how the infection started. LOL. No way cordyceps would had survived and spread that fast through food alone given that people will roast the hell out of the cordyceps spores. Maybe they could had gone with a more natural approach like a massive spore hive outbreak that spread into 1 town. Then that 1 town had infected people cough and spread it airborne into the world.
@@coolgamers2794 If you buy flour and bake something; i.e. make cookies, biscuits, pancakes, a birthday cake, etc; and get some on your HANDS and don't wash it off, or eat the raw dough- they it'd be very easy for you to get infected. Probably why it hit the big cities harder- more bakers/chefs making things from scratch.
“Dude you got to go up in the sky.” That simple sentence, it really makes me realize just how lucky I am. For everything I’ve experienced and all I have.
Just saying but all born extremely poor people and homeless people in real life don't get that experience things such as flying as well (considering on how expensive commercial flights are and how hard it is to get the documents and whatnot), remember the billions of the born impoverished at this point (including me). I am somewhat poor to not afford a plane ticket, nor my entire family could too at the moment.
@Thomas the Unusual Pinoy True, some are more fortunate than others and sadly we can't choose where or in which circumstances we're born. But just the fact of living in our time means there's a chance, a possibility, of you getting to fly one day. Ellie just can't. The train was long gone when she was born, no matter how hard she tries that world does not exist anymore.
Whenever I fly, I always am in awe of how we have turned something so incredible into something so mundane. I wonder if, at some point in the future, travelling to another planet will be just as mundane
@@ltdowding6086 There are literally tens of times when the main cast dodge Cordyceps. It's a little jarring to us that played the game to death, but we understand why it can't be fungus spores. It's all good.
"Dead people can't be infected." Pablo's delivery of that line was perfect: a softer, more regretful recitation of what was an ice-cold calculation when the bullets were flying.
That's actually a better and more credible start of apocalyptic pandemic than "zombies start biting peoples and turn them into zombies". That way, a great number of peoples could be infected anywhere in the world, even military, and be numerous enough to actually provoke chaos on scales never seen before on a international level. It explain why the military and governements failed to contain or stop the pandemic.
Id only argue logically the spread would have jad to start sponer and be symptomless forbat least a couple days. Or like day 1 a mild headache, day 2 its worse, day 3 fever, day 5 or 6 they start biting. That way for a few days millions amd billions more would be consuming the infected foods, making a such a dramatic apocalypse more realistic. And tbh it probably would take a few days not 2.
There are contingencies and plans in place to deal with infectious diseases and pandemics, but the cordyceps didn't act like a normal disease. Most diseases spread slowly at first, infecting one and then jumping from person to person, enough for it to be identified and contained. Cordyceps had already infected millions by the time people realised what was going on, already far too late for any hope of containment.
Joel telling how it all went down gave me chills, i've always been curious about that and somehow they never explored it in the game which was a huge miss.
Perhaps not and there's no doubt this storyline was there you just can't throw everything that's needed at the last minute when developing a launch triple-A++ game.
I guess Ellie betting the first bite came from a monkey is a nod to 28 days later… and joel’s explanation makes fun of that origin as it seems like a trope you would only see in a film… the ‘spreading through a basic food source’ is much more believable and grounded in reality
in the second ep's opening of the Indonesian doctor, she explained that flour was the perfect substrate for the fungus. The infected woman they had at the CDC center or whereever, worked at a flour factory where 14 other infected were loose.
and 28 days later US release date (in real life at least) was in June 27th 2003. maybe it being a zombie and released relatively close to outbreak day that made it snuck its way into one of the urban myths/theories about how the fungus spread. Ellie prolly heard it from her classmates, who heard it from their parents, etc......
it's more likely a reference to the game itself. In the area of the university Joel and Ellie meet monkeys that were released from their cages before the scientists left the building and in one of the voice recordings, a scientist tells how he became infected because he was killed by one of them. the monkeys they were experimenting on.
The fact she is asking the questions we are asking is making this show so great. She is naive and half the time we experience things through her pov so joel explaining stuff and showing him as father figure is a great aspect for the show!
I also like the fact that she's so awed by planes and the concept of flying. To most people's who took planes (me included), we don't really think too deeply into it, we just enter the plane, it takes off, we can see cool view off the windows, then we land and we're somewhere else, but for someone who never did it and better yet never seen a plane in action, it must be a wonderous thing : to fly above the ground, in the sky
In case you’re unaware of what I meant there, I’m sad because Joel’s daughter wanted to make him pancakes on his birthday. Saying pancake mix reminded him of that. That’s why I was sad
Except this was supposed to take place in 2003, and airlines really didn’t start charging for food separately until more recently. This show really isn’t all that good, it’s mid-tier (at best).
Imagine being Ellie, growing up in a post-apocalyptic hellscape, and being told that people once blasted through the sky at eight-tenths the speed of sound, crossing the known world in hours, but they'd still pitch a fit if the miraculous metal bird that carried them wasn't perfectly on time.
With technology like that how can a people that have no weapons and just run kill 60% of the world. Even if this fungus manages to get on humans it would fail miserably. Humans have high body temperatures because we evolved like this to avoid fungus(search that up) meaning that we were once infected by fungus like this. Not proven but most likely. And the fact that breads are baked to oven temperatures.
@@dfrancis7857 well, in that case it’s safe to say the people up there at the time definitely knew what happened but the question really is what did they do and there is 2 possible options. 1. They Took a shuttle back to earth because they would die when their supplies/oxygen went out anyway. 2. They said “Fuck it.” Quite literally and they went down with the ship, by that I mean they died up in space with the crew members they had. But if I was them, I’d take a shuttle and hopefully land in a remote location away from anyone and hope for the best, ain’t no way I’m dying up there.
@@Zoxxies if you were returning from space you'd land somewhere in the ocean where you are safe from the infection but not so much as the entire vastness of sea you crashed into.
Ellie was always the sass master. Thats what I missed most in Last of us part 2, but she was going through some shit. THe flashbacks with Joel in that game was a breath of fresh air after 10 hours of nonstop revenge and murder.
@@rosesweetcharlotte Nah. They just got to play a game of wrestle with the fungus as they ate their friends and families and slowly lost who they were. For months. (Yeah infected don’t die when they become savage. They’re still in there. That guy that chased them knew what was going on. Was fully aware. Just had no control over any part of his body. That’s the way it works in the game.)
@@tylerslagel5485 And in real life. The Cordyceps fungus doesn't take control of its victim's brain; it burrows into the muscle and controls it directly. It's less terrifying when it's done to ants, instead of people, but still. Nature is brutal.
0:06 to 0:37 There is an optional conversation in the Salt Lake City level "Bus Depot" where Ellie revealed to Joel that she had a dream about being on a plane that was about to crash and she noted that the dream was odd because she has never been on a plane before.
I bet she was dreaming the one that crashed down on the town from first episode just moments before the car got toppled over by passenger's airplane wheel. Funny how that works just fine
It could possibly be she was the past life of the pilot that crashed either this flight in the episode or the one when outbreak day happened 🤔this game be going deep so that could be a possibility
@@immew8249 no past life is stupid reason, the real reason is cordyceps zombie have a hivemind and is connected to eachother. Ellis sees it, because she has a dormant infection and what she dreamed about is the memory of an infected person.
I love people who were initially skeptical of Pedro and Bella have started to accept them in the roles. The resemblance doesn't really matter that much if you can nail the vibes, which they did. Even during the game auditions people before Troy actually looked like Joel but Troy was the one who got the part because be nailed the vibes. ✌️😎👏
Strangely enough, Bella doesn't really resemble Ellie, but she does bear a slight resemblance to Ashley Johnson, which is appropriate considering which character Ashley Johnson is playing in the show.
Interesting what they did with the date. In the original game, the outbreak is present day, 2013 at the time. Then we jump to twenty years later. For this series, they have chosen to set the bulk of it in 'present day' with the outbreak 20 years ago. This surely makes it harder - they have to make sure there are no post-2003 anachronisms; a lot of clothing will be 2003 style, no post-2003 slang, no reference to more recent technology, all cars must be old models etc.
I noticed someone here pointed out that ellie bringing up monkeys as the infection source could have been a nod to 28 days later. I looked up the movie's release date and it was released in August 2003. A month before this shows infection.
They show you the torn up blanket then they show you to who it belong to That transition hit me hard man... I know that desperate times call for desperate measures but man that still hurt
those skeletons and the sequence of the mother and the baby is really heartbreaker. Tragic and very sad how such event would not categorize even from the most innocent
HE said they came after people in the country side a week after everything went nuts and there are many people in the country side they are not for the goverment so many would have not went or would die trying to stay home.
Not entirely. It was always a given in the game that Bill and Frank were gay, but it was never mentioned outright. It was always "Bill and Frank's place"
@@DrewJPS yeah I just got done watching ep3 and I was wondering if I missed something in the game about them being gay because I don't remember Billy mentioning anything about him and frank being friendly like that.
@@ArcticWolf0000 It's never stated outright but it is very heavily implied. After Bill's emotional reaction to Frank's death and the gay porno magazine that Ellie steals from Bill's stash, you can put two and two together.
It really it depressing how accurate this is at a certain level. Yes, odds are not the real life corticep fungus (the kind of mutation it would take to make it capable of infecting humans is EXTREMELY improbable). But when it comes to how food can be an easy carrier, especially in a such an interconnected global supply chain. While we certainly have improved a small amount when it comes to taking health safety around meat and possible contamination on the production side (mad cow disease notwithstanding). But we have not learned our lesson when it comes to grains and produce. Try and name a fruit, vegetable, flour, etc that has not within the last decade alone that has not had experienced a massive recall due to mass exposure of ecoli, salmonella, etc?
But there _have_ been recalls. We do have systems in place to handle these things and they do work, not perfectly or even efficiently but they are effective. For now... These things are the first to go in a corrupt government; so give no quarter to authoritarians.
The writing in this is spectacular. I love the slight callback to episode one with the pancake mix. Scary to think that if Joel ended up getting that, he'd be tearing ass through Texas with murderous intent. This series feels like I am reading a novelization of the game rather than playing through it again and I LOVE that.
Its a nod to how the people working on the series actually like and respected the source material. You can see the slight changes were made with a thought to elevate the source material rather than just changing it. I swear the adaptions I've watched either wanted to poke fun of the manga/game or saw the source material as cringe
I don't mean to be mean or anything, but there have been tons of good adaptations that exist already. 🥺 tlou is one of them now. Which I'm happy about.
@@jhudielgabrielsabelino9278 like? Cause every resident evil live action stuff has been either totally unfaithful to the games or cringe af or both, the Assassins Creed movie is so boring I couldn't even finish it, only prince of Persia is ok.
I actually think this scene is really well done with the transition from the old worn childs babygrow in the ditch to the flashback of the childs mother holding him in the crowd of people with the military. Chillingly good cut.
I look at these two and I don't even see Pedro or Bella. It's legit like I'm watching unused cutscenes of Joel and Ellie from the game. They may not be 100% similar looks wise to Joel and Ellie but they completely nailed the identities of their characters.
This show does exposition so well. It never feels forced or overstays it’s welcome, and it’s usually done in a story telling perspective from one character to another.
One thing the HBO series has done well is give more backstory to the world of The Last of Us like how the infection spread in the beginning as Joel explained it was in flour and sugar and other foods!
Yea but she also still a kid and doesn't know the horrors of what happened before she was born. So Joel may be trying to save her from unnecessary trauma and pain that she can't understand why such a action was done.
Ellie has also been rather sheltered from the worst of what happened. And the thing is, it's been 20 years. The worst is over with, things are somewhat stable and sort of safe. Joel went through the very worst days
The most chilling bit of this scene is the transition into the rainbow clothing of the baby. Really makes you realize that the world lost it's humanity after the outbreak.
Pretty scary to think about. Monday morning, get up, start your new week as usual. Go to work/school, meet up with friends, do the groceries and maybe you hear the odd buzzing about how there seems to be more police/ambulance and even military movement these days, but to you, it just seems like life goes on as normal. Come friday evening that same week, everything you know, everything you took for granted is just gone. Just like that. Went up in fire and smoke and all that's left is the chaos, death and confusion and nobody's around to give you any kind of answer. It just happened. Fine one day, gone up in smoke the next, never to return. It really can all disappear just like that.
It’s very sad, to me, it’s sad because everyone lost their normal lives and had to live on edge their entire lives now. Like one day you wake up, doing your usual routine and everything and the next day, everything is just gone the next morning. It’s like the world just reset. Edit: I’m not saying it’ll happen but you know what I mean right?
I’ve flown on planes a lot of times and I get scared every time while on a flight. Once the announcer on the plane said that we’ll experience some heavy winds during the flight which meant that the plane will shake a little which made me almost have a panic attack. I’m always thinking that during a flight, the plane I’m on will lose control or something bad will happen. But thankfully, plane crashes are very rare and chances of surviving plane crashes are very high. Also what I really like about the last of us is that the government and military is still intact even if they have less power and less control.
This show just add another level of anxiety, its not terrorist or turbalance or engine failure, but being trapped on a tube with hundreds of people carrying a disease that might kill you or the spread tk the populace when you land
Worst I had is when the plane I was in landed in Madrid late at night in bad weather and it landed on one wheel. Whole thing was tilted to one side. I thought the other wing was going to hit the tarmac
Chances of surviving a plane crash are almost zero, but yes, they rarely happen. You are much more likely to die every time you get in the car. The reason we are afraid to fly is because it’s unnatural to us, we are land animals, just instinctual fear, that’s all. I know it, but my mind refuses to believe it so every plane ride to me feels like my last until we land.
You're doing better than me, I can't even get on a plane because my anxiety is to bad. It's the being stuck in a confined space with a bunch of people for me.
How he explains how the pandemic started makes me think back to how the walking dead began. How no one knew everyone had the virus, the moment people began dying and turning that’s when chaos erupted
@@staydetermined6717 in fear the walking dead. The government did not know how to kill walkers. They basically were not aiming for the head 🙄. That's why I always say " aim for the head" in movies.
Can we all take a moment to appreciate SLEEPER?! Whether he has rights or not he’s posting copyrighted stuff so we can watch or rewatch it. I’m praying this wouldn’t get taken down. Thank you!
Weren't monkeys and elephants the only confirmed animals in the Last of Us universe who carry the infection, they don't get infected by it (or atleast don't have shit growing out of them and likely only affects their behavior) but can bite other humans to infect them instead.
Chilling realistic, though. 1977 I took part in an exercise scenario guarding a nuclear submarine base after a nuclear attack. Part of the exercise was defending against starving civilians trying to get through the perimeter en mass. The order was that if they refused a warning to get away from the fence then we were to open fire.
@@TukikoTroy Its scary to think that there’s soldiers out there who could open fire on civilians just following orders. It’s happened before time and time again.
@@troyjones2687 It is, and the even scarier thing is how readily soldiers, and people in general, will accept it under the right conditions. Two of the easiest being, giving the soldier a rational as to why it is better to kill the victims than not to. The second is to demonise or dehumanise the victims so that they are no longer considered 'like us'. Hitler did this with the Jews in the 1930s, and western governments are doing it today with immigrants.
4:09 Those skeleton bodies of the mother and baby appeared in the flashback of the episode, they wore the same outfit as they were evacuated. Looks like they were executed by FEDRA.
@@LarryWater No, the US, India, and Britain. China turned heaven and earth to protect its people, but the stupidity of the Western countries whose upper classes rioted against the most tepid public health measures turned those countries into virus factories, and then the mutations were too much for even then.
It's revealed in episode 2 that the air force started dropping JDAMs around the country to try to cull the spread. That probably accelerated the devastation tenfold
I loved this scene. The episode was so well done, but Bill and Frank’s story compliment the opening and closing scenes, so it was important to write those well. And this is incredible.
Since they use ration cards in their new reality, she probably has no idea what 12 bucks means or even if she knows it's money, won't know its worth versus ration cards.
Its interesting they had this scene talking about the plane when in the game when you get to spring after defeating David she talks about having a nightmare she was flying a plane and it was crashing even though she had never been in a plane before.
COVID made me realize how close we were to the world ending if it was more infectious/deadly. We weren't prepared for a pandemic and i don't think we'll ever be
We weren't, if it was more deadly, people would react differently. Just look at the outbreaks of Ebola or similarly deadly viruses. Or even AIDS, if you're old enough to remember.
The cruel irony was Joel avoided carbs due to being on the Atkins diet (or that’s what he said)- but in the long term Atkins was revealed to be bad for you, so “All Praise to the Fungus”- Joel- the apocalypse saved you from possibly dying of a heart attack due the dietary changes made by that extreme diet craze 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In One of my favourite reaction videos of this episode one of the guys ask “but can it hurt us?” After Joel tells Ellie no, it can’t hurt her. On point!
To me the scariest part about this is the fact that if something like this were to actually happen, this is probably how the world WOULD react. Humans aren’t as United as we like to think. We’re completely willing to kill eachother and that’s what makes this scenario 10x more terrifying
Well, the director wanted you to see the plane and after 20 years it wouldn't be a meadow at all. First trees would be taking over. Plus, whoever's land they rented for this shot probably needs to ... you know ... cut the hay as it would be a crop. But kudos on picking that up.
Meadows do naturally occur, and can also be around due to the lasting effects of deforestation; quite a bit of treeless terrain in England comes from prehistoric deforestation by homo sapiens.
I always hated flying, but i do understand how amazed she is by it. Now that flying is almost impossible i get it that she wants to fly just to feel how its like
I like this scene a lot because this is where they first start bond. Joel being receptive to her question about what caused the outbreak and then wanting to protect her from seeing the body remains.
I like so much that the authors position such a possibility of the appearance of zombies as realistic, not taking into account the fact that if people really did not know how to clean millet and flour from mushroom spores, then they would all have died of ergot a long time ago. Not to mention the fact that ants, on some species of which cordyceps parasitizes, do not attack other ants, but quietly go to a secluded place, die and give the fungus a nutritious basis for growth.
I think it's just meant to be "realistic" compared to the traditional virus or supernatural explanations that are used in zombie media. It's still very unrealistic, but it's based on a real natural process and uses a more plausible transmission vector rather than something like mutated rabies.
The timeline of infection is kinda crazy to me. The same tainted product would not hit store shelves simultaneously. The impression I got from the game is that it took a week or two before things were really spiraling out of control. By the time we see Joel and Sarah in the game there were already newspapers talking about mystery infections and tainted wheat products. A pandemic like this doesn't destabilize a society in 24 hours.
In canon by the time people started transforming in zombies South and Central America had already started getting infected. The pandemic started months before zombies showed up
@@locke2517 I think Joel's retelling of the events is not entirely accurate specifically because nobody had time to figure out what actually happened. When the show starts with Joel and Sarah the TV is on and talking about some weird things going on in Jakarta. I forget which episode (I think the second?) we get a flashback to a doctor in Jakarta studying the infection and we learn that the dead infected she was looking at has been dead about 30 hours. At this point the Indonesian government still had it under raps so I doubt the news was already reporting it in the US, also that was in the morning for Joel so add another 12 hours to make it to night when he first encounters the infected and that's at least 42 hours or about 2 days. Joel also said it happened on a Friday and everything was gone by Monday, so that's another 3 days meaning it took at a minimum 5 days for society to collapse after the infected started to bite. Realistically it took longer because there are plenty of places where the time could have been stretched out and it still could have taken a couple weeks for an infected person to become violent, nobody in the show knows for sure because society collapsed before they could properly research it.
I always found interesting the "everything just crashed in one day". From Left Behind and Part II there was at least a semblence of normality as there were Halloween decorations in malls / shops so society held up for a bit longer, as well as newspaper articles throughout Part I and I, meaning there was still industry to make newspapers and distribute them.
This is frankly (outside the zombies) still the most unbelievable part of the last of us universe. The whole society won’t go in a day. Even low developed countries in the Middle East and Africa don’t go that fast
To be fair it was probably more regular society. Obviously the military and parts of the government persisted, and many of the rural communities survived until they were evacuated. And some isolated countries probably weren’t touched at all. It’s just that Bhutan surviving doesn’t help Americans in this situation.
@@rachell8661 and what way is it going? although I didnt love this episode 1 and 2 have been fantastic. Don't get mad because gays got the spot light for one episode
God every time Pedro opens his mouth I expect to hear Joel from the game. The got it down so well but I cant help but expect to hear their voices from the game
Pedro Pascal is the GOAT, you can hear sublte change in his voice and face expression when he says "By monday everything was gone", he was explaining to Ellie that by monday world as everyone knew ended but what he really meant was that by monday Sarah was already dead so everything was gone for him.
Damn… honestly didn’t think this kid was gonna be as good of an actress as she is. Hereditary was an ok performance but this is great. She has potential for a long and celebrated career.
the last of us mixtape! ua-cam.com/video/zjQdEy9AUEc/v-deo.html
where are their weapons ?
SLEEPER.
Ironic name.
This reality in this show is how everyone should live.
Enough with the tolerance and weakness.
I love the little pause joel does when he says “pancake mix” like he’s just realizing that he narrowly avoided getting infected
And the constant reminder of losing Sarah on that night.
Probably wishes he could’ve just had one last perfect day with her before it all went to shit.
well pancake mix has a long shelf life so that batch they had in the kitchen could be 100% safe to it :))) not everything has cordyceps in it just because it was stored to next to some flower or sugar
In reality; if you cook any micro organism or plants then they will die. I don't really buy the story of how the infection started. LOL. No way cordyceps would had survived and spread that fast through food alone given that people will roast the hell out of the cordyceps spores. Maybe they could had gone with a more natural approach like a massive spore hive outbreak that spread into 1 town. Then that 1 town had infected people cough and spread it airborne into the world.
@@coolgamers2794 If you buy flour and bake something; i.e. make cookies, biscuits, pancakes, a birthday cake, etc; and get some on your HANDS and don't wash it off, or eat the raw dough- they it'd be very easy for you to get infected. Probably why it hit the big cities harder- more bakers/chefs making things from scratch.
“Dude you got to go up in the sky.” That simple sentence, it really makes me realize just how lucky I am. For everything I’ve experienced and all I have.
Just saying but all born extremely poor people and homeless people in real life don't get that experience things such as flying as well (considering on how expensive commercial flights are and how hard it is to get the documents and whatnot), remember the billions of the born impoverished at this point (including me). I am somewhat poor to not afford a plane ticket, nor my entire family could too at the moment.
Truth, grateful today for my smol pp
"Everything is Amazing and Nobody is Happy"- Louis C.K.
@Thomas the Unusual Pinoy True, some are more fortunate than others and sadly we can't choose where or in which circumstances we're born.
But just the fact of living in our time means there's a chance, a possibility, of you getting to fly one day.
Ellie just can't. The train was long gone when she was born, no matter how hard she tries that world does not exist anymore.
Whenever I fly, I always am in awe of how we have turned something so incredible into something so mundane. I wonder if, at some point in the future, travelling to another planet will be just as mundane
I love the subtle nod that Sarah, Tommy and Joel weren't infected because he forgot to get the birthday cake and pancake mix.
Oh shit! Really good catch, I didn't notice that
The neighbors offered them some biscuits too and they made cookies
@@ltdowding6086 There are literally tens of times when the main cast dodge Cordyceps.
It's a little jarring to us that played the game to death, but we understand why it can't be fungus spores.
It's all good.
And the birthday cake
Holy shit now that you say it he weirdly pauses before mentioning the pancake mix. Too obvious to just be a coincidence. Nice touch.
It's crazy to think ellie was born in the apocalypse and has no idea what the real world was like
Sam was too , Henry was a child when outbreak day occurred
@@kvdjrplays7794 crazy to think about tbh
Kinda how Gen Z people do not know a world before it became obsessed with things like social media, homosexuality, trans rights and pronouns
man ellie would love to eat ice cream from ice cream truck or iphone
she would have been different timeline ellie
For Ellie and her generation, this is the real world. What was before is the fantasy.
"Dead people can't be infected." Pablo's delivery of that line was perfect: a softer, more regretful recitation of what was an ice-cold calculation when the bullets were flying.
Never trust the Government when they are taking people away...
*pedro
@@edadankmemes I swear that is NOT what I typed!! I'm going to leave it there, tho, so your correction makes sense.
Scariest words ever said "We am from the government, We are here to help".
@markwestfall2934 cool story lady
Remember, Joel lost Sarah on that day: 09/26/2003. That's why he remembers THAT date.
It was also his birthday the day before. So it's just as heartwrenching as his last gift from her is on his very wrist
Its "26/09/2003" that day Joel lost Sarah.
09/26/03 was the date actually
@@Jurassic_Otaku fuck. Heard that wrong.
@@WWEGuy85 thank you Spartan
That's actually a better and more credible start of apocalyptic pandemic than "zombies start biting peoples and turn them into zombies". That way, a great number of peoples could be infected anywhere in the world, even military, and be numerous enough to actually provoke chaos on scales never seen before on a international level. It explain why the military and governements failed to contain or stop the pandemic.
True, if it was only bites then it would be a lot easier to contain
Also explains why the military, which likely has a different or slower food chain, was still functioning.
Id only argue logically the spread would have jad to start sponer and be symptomless forbat least a couple days. Or like day 1 a mild headache, day 2 its worse, day 3 fever, day 5 or 6 they start biting. That way for a few days millions amd billions more would be consuming the infected foods, making a such a dramatic apocalypse more realistic. And tbh it probably would take a few days not 2.
It depends on the zombie. TWD zombies the virus is dormant until death, then restarts the brain stem and is able to control bodily movements.
There are contingencies and plans in place to deal with infectious diseases and pandemics, but the cordyceps didn't act like a normal disease. Most diseases spread slowly at first, infecting one and then jumping from person to person, enough for it to be identified and contained. Cordyceps had already infected millions by the time people realised what was going on, already far too late for any hope of containment.
Joel telling how it all went down gave me chills, i've always been curious about that and somehow they never explored it in the game which was a huge miss.
Yeah, they have more freedom in the show to explore more of the world and the people inside it
Some things are best left unsaid.
Perhaps not and there's no doubt this storyline was there you just can't throw everything that's needed at the last minute when developing a launch triple-A++ game.
@@engineer8363 90% of the world pop being infected or dead
@@engineer8363 yes indeed
I guess Ellie betting the first bite came from a monkey is a nod to 28 days later… and joel’s explanation makes fun of that origin as it seems like a trope you would only see in a film… the ‘spreading through a basic food source’ is much more believable and grounded in reality
It’s a reference to another part of the game.
in the second ep's opening of the Indonesian doctor, she explained that flour was the perfect substrate for the fungus. The infected woman they had at the CDC center or whereever, worked at a flour factory where 14 other infected were loose.
and 28 days later US release date (in real life at least) was in June 27th 2003. maybe it being a zombie and released relatively close to outbreak day that made it snuck its way into one of the urban myths/theories about how the fungus spread. Ellie prolly heard it from her classmates, who heard it from their parents, etc......
I thought it was a nod to AIDS
it's more likely a reference to the game itself. In the area of the university Joel and Ellie meet monkeys that were released from their cages before the scientists left the building and in one of the voice recordings, a scientist tells how he became infected because he was killed by one of them. the monkeys they were experimenting on.
The fact she is asking the questions we are asking is making this show so great. She is naive and half the time we experience things through her pov so joel explaining stuff and showing him as father figure is a great aspect for the show!
I also like the fact that she's so awed by planes and the concept of flying.
To most people's who took planes (me included), we don't really think too deeply into it, we just enter the plane, it takes off, we can see cool view off the windows, then we land and we're somewhere else, but for someone who never did it and better yet never seen a plane in action, it must be a wonderous thing : to fly above the ground, in the sky
Daddy issues
@@alejomaster4035 not in the slightest i just enjoy great story telling & HBO does a decent job but keep dreaming
@@angelking.91 oh you mad? Jajajaja
@@alejomaster4035 no but that "jajajajaja" is pretty funny!
The way he paused and bent his head down when he said pancake mix 😭
Genius callback some won't even recall
"There were certain brands of food that were sold everywhere. All across the country, all across the world"
There's a hint 🤔
In case you’re unaware of what I meant there, I’m sad because Joel’s daughter wanted to make him pancakes on his birthday. Saying pancake mix reminded him of that. That’s why I was sad
@@Jenny_Lee_ Yeah Indonesia has the biggest FLOUR mill, all kinds of flours got contaminated and even sugar too.
1:30
I love this version of Ellie and Joel. It's good to see Ellie more childlike.
She was like this in the game too. Telling jokes, learning to whistle, mocking Joel… Then, David
@@macarenatn7717 I am NOT looking foward to thet part...
@@macarenatn7717 no, she wasn't like this. She wasn't ugly.
@@Antibot01 chill
@@Antibot01 why are you trying to sexualize a character who’s supposed to be 14 you pedophile 🤢🤢?
The middle seat and 12 bucks for sandwich joke made me laugh..
All I've gotten were peanuts and gingerale.
Except this was supposed to take place in 2003, and airlines really didn’t start charging for food separately until more recently.
This show really isn’t all that good, it’s mid-tier (at best).
@@TheyWantMeGone69 do peanut serve in airplane?
@@jeffw8218 I was going to say there is no way a sandwich cost $12 on an airline before 2003, surely ....
@@hunterwatkins714 Yeah, it’s true. Are you disagreeing with me?
Imagine being Ellie, growing up in a post-apocalyptic hellscape, and being told that people once blasted through the sky at eight-tenths the speed of sound, crossing the known world in hours, but they'd still pitch a fit if the miraculous metal bird that carried them wasn't perfectly on time.
Well eventually the miracle gets old and becomes commonplace.
With technology like that how can a people that have no weapons and just run kill 60% of the world. Even if this fungus manages to get on humans it would fail miserably. Humans have high body temperatures because we evolved like this to avoid fungus(search that up) meaning that we were once infected by fungus like this. Not proven but most likely. And the fact that breads are baked to oven temperatures.
1:32 he takes a pause to say pancake mix as it reminds him of Sarah.
I caught that too
Same with Tommy. All he wanted was some pancakes. No wonder him and Joel are on bad terms
It’s been 20 years he should get a grip
Not only that, but it also reminded him he got lucky that day.
Reminds him he avoided infection because he dodged it and chose eggs, even dodged the cake because he forgot to get it
Hbo is nailing this series.
Half a fucking episode wasted on some gay romance of people we will probably never see again, perhaps in a flashback.
What a waste of time.
At the end of the day it is hbo
But they are really slippin' on Velma on the other hand
@@Crownest219 that hbo max, I dont think their quality control is as strict as the official branch of HBO
@@Crownest219 Losing their shit on that one
Ellie sure does love the idea of flying so much.
Her dream is to become an astronaut… literally. She says this in Part II.
That's why she loves space comics.
@@Zoxxies This comment makes me think about the astronauts that were on space during the outbreak, like, did they ever got down to Earth again?
@@dfrancis7857 well, in that case it’s safe to say the people up there at the time definitely knew what happened but the question really is what did they do and there is 2 possible options.
1. They Took a shuttle back to earth because they would die when their supplies/oxygen went out anyway.
2. They said “Fuck it.” Quite literally and they went down with the ship, by that I mean they died up in space with the crew members they had.
But if I was them, I’d take a shuttle and hopefully land in a remote location away from anyone and hope for the best, ain’t no way I’m dying up there.
@@Zoxxies if you were returning from space you'd land somewhere in the ocean where you are safe from the infection but not so much as the entire vastness of sea you crashed into.
Bella is good. Her talking back to Pedro is hilarious to watch.
Ellie was always the sass master. Thats what I missed most in Last of us part 2, but she was going through some shit. THe flashbacks with Joel in that game was a breath of fresh air after 10 hours of nonstop revenge and murder.
@@theadventurer2628 2 was definitely a harder game to get through. They were both extremely dark but 2 even more so.
Just like the Telltale Games of the Walking Dead season 1 and 2.
@@jamesplunkett8912 those broke me
@@scotch3554 Me, too. Especially seeing Clementine growing up.
And on a Friday too! RIP to all those who were just looking forwards to the weekend.
Imagine trudging through your entire week looking forward to Saturday only for the outbreak to happen before that. Absolutely evil
Bill had a good time at least
Well, at least they didn't have to go back to work Monday
@@rosesweetcharlotte Nah. They just got to play a game of wrestle with the fungus as they ate their friends and families and slowly lost who they were.
For months.
(Yeah infected don’t die when they become savage. They’re still in there. That guy that chased them knew what was going on. Was fully aware. Just had no control over any part of his body. That’s the way it works in the game.)
@@tylerslagel5485 And in real life. The Cordyceps fungus doesn't take control of its victim's brain; it burrows into the muscle and controls it directly. It's less terrifying when it's done to ants, instead of people, but still. Nature is brutal.
0:06 to 0:37 There is an optional conversation in the Salt Lake City level "Bus Depot" where Ellie revealed to Joel that she had a dream about being on a plane that was about to crash and she noted that the dream was odd because she has never been on a plane before.
I bet she was dreaming the one that crashed down on the town from first episode just moments before the car got toppled over by passenger's airplane wheel.
Funny how that works just fine
@@Frostwolf_103 a little too convenient
It could possibly be she was the past life of the pilot that crashed either this flight in the episode or the one when outbreak day happened 🤔this game be going deep so that could be a possibility
@@immew8249 no past life is stupid reason, the real reason is cordyceps zombie have a hivemind and is connected to eachother. Ellis sees it, because she has a dormant infection and what she dreamed about is the memory of an infected person.
@@sunshineskystarThats actually kinda makes sense
I love people who were initially skeptical of Pedro and Bella have started to accept them in the roles. The resemblance doesn't really matter that much if you can nail the vibes, which they did. Even during the game auditions people before Troy actually looked like Joel but Troy was the one who got the part because be nailed the vibes. ✌️😎👏
Strangely enough, Bella doesn't really resemble Ellie, but she does bear a slight resemblance to Ashley Johnson, which is appropriate considering which character Ashley Johnson is playing in the show.
Pedro nailed Joel and Bella (who has 0 resemblance to Ellie btw) comes around and it freaking WORKS
I wish Pedro could do a southern accent though
@Daddy a bad adaptation. Not even 100% accurate to the game, creating new scenes of nowhere.
I was one of them, but I was never over critical and I was always willing to give them a chance, they are killing it so far.
Interesting what they did with the date. In the original game, the outbreak is present day, 2013 at the time. Then we jump to twenty years later. For this series, they have chosen to set the bulk of it in 'present day' with the outbreak 20 years ago. This surely makes it harder - they have to make sure there are no post-2003 anachronisms; a lot of clothing will be 2003 style, no post-2003 slang, no reference to more recent technology, all cars must be old models etc.
I noticed someone here pointed out that ellie bringing up monkeys as the infection source could have been a nod to 28 days later. I looked up the movie's release date and it was released in August 2003. A month before this shows infection.
@@guertlenub5731 my thought was it could also be in reference to outbreak (1995). Not really a zombie outbreak, but the monkey played a large role.
@@guertlenub5731 It could also be a nod to the game university level when a firefly was infected by a monkey bite
you are not only think of that too why don't they use 2013 like in the game i mean this will easy than
Might be to avoid all nonesense of social media and smart phones
Another reason why I love this series: it gives us more insight on what they did during their travels between the levels. Thank you HBO
They show you the torn up blanket then they show you to who it belong to
That transition hit me hard man... I know that desperate times call for desperate measures but man that still hurt
Who it belongs to?
@@alohasnackbar3544 a baby
@@regularguardsmen2453 no way
@@wren9725Yeah, really sure that's a young child skull on the left at 4:13.
Who it belong to? Are you don't good the English?
those skeletons and the sequence of the mother and the baby is really heartbreaker. Tragic and very sad how such event would not categorize even from the most innocent
HE said they came after people in the country side a week after everything went nuts and there are many people in the country side they are not for the goverment so many would have not went or would die trying to stay home.
Take note of how many times Joel argues with Ellie, then looks at his watch.
This is important.
Why?
@@jensonaltair1900 The watch is his birthday present from Sarah. He's being reminded of his daughter.
I played the game so I already knew. But thanks.
@@brian197686 can you give a little bit of spoiler, I love spoiler.
Just give a warning for the people in the comments. thanks! :)
@@belle215 if they don't want to get spoilered they shouldn't read the comments.
This episode changed so much from the game, but in a good way.
Not entirely. It was always a given in the game that Bill and Frank were gay, but it was never mentioned outright. It was always "Bill and Frank's place"
@@DrewJPS thank you
@@DrewJPS yeah I just got done watching ep3 and I was wondering if I missed something in the game about them being gay because I don't remember Billy mentioning anything about him and frank being friendly like that.
@@ArcticWolf0000 It's never stated outright but it is very heavily implied.
After Bill's emotional reaction to Frank's death and the gay porno magazine that Ellie steals from Bill's stash, you can put two and two together.
@@SkinManJim wait what, I'm pretty sure Bill said to Joel that Frank was his partner, I think it was when both of them found Frank hanging himself
I love the set up at 2:45 that Joel is too honest, a great setup for the inevitable lie he'll tell her at the end. 😭
It really it depressing how accurate this is at a certain level.
Yes, odds are not the real life corticep fungus (the kind of mutation it would take to make it capable of infecting humans is EXTREMELY improbable).
But when it comes to how food can be an easy carrier, especially in a such an interconnected global supply chain. While we certainly have improved a small amount when it comes to taking health safety around meat and possible contamination on the production side (mad cow disease notwithstanding). But we have not learned our lesson when it comes to grains and produce.
Try and name a fruit, vegetable, flour, etc that has not within the last decade alone that has not had experienced a massive recall due to mass exposure of ecoli, salmonella, etc?
Ergot poisoning would be a more likely candidate in the real world. No zombies but maybe a bunch of gangrene.
But there _have_ been recalls.
We do have systems in place to handle these things and they do work, not perfectly or even efficiently but they are effective.
For now...
These things are the first to go in a corrupt government; so give no quarter to authoritarians.
The writing in this is spectacular. I love the slight callback to episode one with the pancake mix. Scary to think that if Joel ended up getting that, he'd be tearing ass through Texas with murderous intent. This series feels like I am reading a novelization of the game rather than playing through it again and I LOVE that.
Man, it is so impressive how well made this series is made, it is just so thought out, and has so much meaning to it.
Its a nod to how the people working on the series actually like and respected the source material. You can see the slight changes were made with a thought to elevate the source material rather than just changing it. I swear the adaptions I've watched either wanted to poke fun of the manga/game or saw the source material as cringe
They’re nailing it. Finally a video game adaptation which isn’t cringe af. I love it
I don't mean to be mean or anything, but there have been tons of good adaptations that exist already. 🥺 tlou is one of them now. Which I'm happy about.
Its going to go to shit soon anyway once big d*ck she hulk comes.
@@jhudielgabrielsabelino9278 like? Cause every resident evil live action stuff has been either totally unfaithful to the games or cringe af or both, the Assassins Creed movie is so boring I couldn't even finish it, only prince of Persia is ok.
Yeah, especially Tess "kissing" scene wasn't cringe
@@the_sam_strong arcane and edgrunners
I actually think this scene is really well done with the transition from the old worn childs babygrow in the ditch to the flashback of the childs mother holding him in the crowd of people with the military.
Chillingly good cut.
I look at these two and I don't even see Pedro or Bella. It's legit like I'm watching unused cutscenes of Joel and Ellie from the game. They may not be 100% similar looks wise to Joel and Ellie but they completely nailed the identities of their characters.
I love this show. Bella and Pedro are amazing.
This show does exposition so well.
It never feels forced or overstays it’s welcome, and it’s usually done in a story telling perspective from one character to another.
Just occurred to me how gamelike that shot of them from behind was
Wow Pedro is so much into the in-game Joel. I think he nails the role !!
I love the fact that the line “the dead people don’t get infected” was actually said in the game too
One thing the HBO series has done well is give more backstory to the world of The Last of Us like how the infection spread in the beginning as Joel explained it was in flour and sugar and other foods!
Ugh the detail of the pancake mix is so good
It's nice that this baby Yoda can talk
Damn the dialogue makes u think about how lucky we really are...love it
Oberyn Martell and Lyanna Mormont. What an strange pair to be walking through the woods
I love how she thanks him for educating her.
She was born into this so she has a right to know in my option
Opinion I meant
Yea but she also still a kid and doesn't know the horrors of what happened before she was born. So Joel may be trying to save her from unnecessary trauma and pain that she can't understand why such a action was done.
Ellie has also been rather sheltered from the worst of what happened. And the thing is, it's been 20 years. The worst is over with, things are somewhat stable and sort of safe. Joel went through the very worst days
The most chilling bit of this scene is the transition into the rainbow clothing of the baby. Really makes you realize that the world lost it's humanity after the outbreak.
Pretty scary to think about. Monday morning, get up, start your new week as usual. Go to work/school, meet up with friends, do the groceries and maybe you hear the odd buzzing about how there seems to be more police/ambulance and even military movement these days, but to you, it just seems like life goes on as normal. Come friday evening that same week, everything you know, everything you took for granted is just gone. Just like that. Went up in fire and smoke and all that's left is the chaos, death and confusion and nobody's around to give you any kind of answer. It just happened. Fine one day, gone up in smoke the next, never to return. It really can all disappear just like that.
It’s very sad, to me, it’s sad because everyone lost their normal lives and had to live on edge their entire lives now. Like one day you wake up, doing your usual routine and everything and the next day, everything is just gone the next morning. It’s like the world just reset. Edit: I’m not saying it’ll happen but you know what I mean right?
I’ve flown on planes a lot of times and I get scared every time while on a flight. Once the announcer on the plane said that we’ll experience some heavy winds during the flight which meant that the plane will shake a little which made me almost have a panic attack. I’m always thinking that during a flight, the plane I’m on will lose control or something bad will happen. But thankfully, plane crashes are very rare and chances of surviving plane crashes are very high. Also what I really like about the last of us is that the government and military is still intact even if they have less power and less control.
This show just add another level of anxiety, its not terrorist or turbalance or engine failure, but being trapped on a tube with hundreds of people carrying a disease that might kill you or the spread tk the populace when you land
Worst I had is when the plane I was in landed in Madrid late at night in bad weather and it landed on one wheel. Whole thing was tilted to one side. I thought the other wing was going to hit the tarmac
I get on the flight tracking app sometimes and there are always just hundreds of planes up in the air at any single time
Chances of surviving a plane crash are almost zero, but yes, they rarely happen. You are much more likely to die every time you get in the car. The reason we are afraid to fly is because it’s unnatural to us, we are land animals, just instinctual fear, that’s all. I know it, but my mind refuses to believe it so every plane ride to me feels like my last until we land.
You're doing better than me, I can't even get on a plane because my anxiety is to bad. It's the being stuck in a confined space with a bunch of people for me.
How he explains how the pandemic started makes me think back to how the walking dead began.
How no one knew everyone had the virus, the moment people began dying and turning that’s when chaos erupted
The government or someone had to know and maybe there was a major incident where a lot of people die and it just erupted?
@@staydetermined6717 in fear the walking dead. The government did not know how to kill walkers. They basically were not aiming for the head 🙄. That's why I always say " aim for the head" in movies.
this was the moment when I was like, "oh yeah, this is TLOU", Chills
Can we all take a moment to appreciate SLEEPER?! Whether he has rights or not he’s posting copyrighted stuff so we can watch or rewatch it. I’m praying this wouldn’t get taken down. Thank you!
Joel: “Dead people can’t be infected.”
Dead Space: Hold my necromorph
Nice
at 0:59 it's an easter egg in the game, where gamers can understand!
state of decay? 28 days later?
@@esothetics 28 days later
Btw its a movie not a game
Weren't monkeys and elephants the only confirmed animals in the Last of Us universe who carry the infection, they don't get infected by it (or atleast don't have shit growing out of them and likely only affects their behavior) but can bite other humans to infect them instead.
It's a reference to the film 28 Days Later, where that series' own pandemic is started by a virus-infected monkey. Not at all a GAMERS ONLY reference.
That’s so disturbing if in a crisis like this if innocent people end up being discarded like rats just because there’s too many of them. 😣
Chilling realistic, though. 1977 I took part in an exercise scenario guarding a nuclear submarine base after a nuclear attack. Part of the exercise was defending against starving civilians trying to get through the perimeter en mass. The order was that if they refused a warning to get away from the fence then we were to open fire.
@@TukikoTroy Its scary to think that there’s soldiers out there who could open fire on civilians just following orders. It’s happened before time and time again.
@@troyjones2687 It is, and the even scarier thing is how readily soldiers, and people in general, will accept it under the right conditions. Two of the easiest being, giving the soldier a rational as to why it is better to kill the victims than not to. The second is to demonise or dehumanise the victims so that they are no longer considered 'like us'. Hitler did this with the Jews in the 1930s, and western governments are doing it today with immigrants.
@@troyjones2687 "Good soldiers follow orders."
4:09 Those skeleton bodies of the mother and baby appeared in the flashback of the episode, they wore the same outfit as they were evacuated.
Looks like they were executed by FEDRA.
Fun fact, the key chain on Ellie's backpack is an enemy from the Kirby games. It's sad that Ellie is living in Kirby and the Forgotten Land.
“they didn’t teach how a shitty government failed to prevent a pandemic”
🔥🔥🔥
Ooftonium
China
@@LarryWater No, the US, India, and Britain. China turned heaven and earth to protect its people, but the stupidity of the Western countries whose upper classes rioted against the most tepid public health measures turned those countries into virus factories, and then the mutations were too much for even then.
Damm so everything fell apart during the weekend that’s crazy
On a Friday night too
And facebook,youtube,inter,tik toc etc was never a thing😔
@@johnbeniedictsantos4763 yea started on Friday and by Monday everything was gone that’s wild
@@tauceti8060 the most crazy part is...kids same age as Ellie doesn't know what car is
It's revealed in episode 2 that the air force started dropping JDAMs around the country to try to cull the spread. That probably accelerated the devastation tenfold
Joel is surprisingly social with ellie here. He didn’t get like that in the games until the last part after the whole david fiasco.
I loved this scene. The episode was so well done, but Bill and Frank’s story compliment the opening and closing scenes, so it was important to write those well.
And this is incredible.
0:24 ellie reaction made laugh.
Since they use ration cards in their new reality, she probably has no idea what 12 bucks means or even if she knows it's money, won't know its worth versus ration cards.
2:07 “by Monday. Everything was gone.”
That was the most chilling part for me.
Having played the game it’s nice to get more backstory on how the virus spread through grain. Lots of infected all at once society collapses so quick
Its interesting they had this scene talking about the plane when in the game when you get to spring after defeating David she talks about having a nightmare she was flying a plane and it was crashing even though she had never been in a plane before.
COVID made me realize how close we were to the world ending if it was more infectious/deadly. We weren't prepared for a pandemic and i don't think we'll ever be
We weren't, if it was more deadly, people would react differently. Just look at the outbreaks of Ebola or similarly deadly viruses. Or even AIDS, if you're old enough to remember.
1:02 had me and my dad laughing out asses off because it’s so true
"Friday September 26th 2003... by Monday everything was gone." Holy shit
The actual outbreak was on Friday September 26th 2013.
I'm genuinely enjoying this show, I saw the trailers originally and I was a little anxious with out it'd turn out, but this is brilliant.
The cruel irony was Joel avoided carbs due to being on the Atkins diet (or that’s what he said)- but in the long term Atkins was revealed to be bad for you, so “All Praise to the Fungus”- Joel- the apocalypse saved you from possibly dying of a heart attack due the dietary changes made by that extreme diet craze 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That one note between brothers makes this scene much more sad
That guy couldn't take the risk but in the end.. it didn't matter, he died anyway
Nobody on Walking Dead ever had this discussion this early in the series. A step-up, narratively speaking.
So true
In One of my favourite reaction videos of this episode one of the guys ask “but can it hurt us?” After Joel tells Ellie no, it can’t hurt her. On point!
I like the shout-out to 28 Days Later, where an infected monkey is responsible for the viral outbreak in Britain.
To me the scariest part about this is the fact that if something like this were to actually happen, this is probably how the world WOULD react. Humans aren’t as United as we like to think. We’re completely willing to kill eachother and that’s what makes this scenario 10x more terrifying
Cool! I see that the meadow has recently been mowed. Apocalypse or not - cows need to be fed! And the gravel road is also heavily worn :)
Well, the director wanted you to see the plane and after 20 years it wouldn't be a meadow at all. First trees would be taking over. Plus, whoever's land they rented for this shot probably needs to ... you know ... cut the hay as it would be a crop. But kudos on picking that up.
I’m from Vermont and didn’t even catch that. Good eye.
Attention to details can be an immersion-breaking Curse.
And spitefully sharing it feels good.
I get that.
Meadows do naturally occur, and can also be around due to the lasting effects of deforestation; quite a bit of treeless terrain in England comes from prehistoric deforestation by homo sapiens.
You would think a program about mushroom headed zombies would pay more attention to flora growth. So immersion breaking.
I always hated flying, but i do understand how amazed she is by it. Now that flying is almost impossible i get it that she wants to fly just to feel how its like
If I were Joel I would have added. “Dead people can’t be infected, and dead people can’t join Raider gangs that attack QZ’s and settlers”.
I like this scene a lot because this is where they first start bond. Joel being receptive to her question about what caused the outbreak and then wanting to protect her from seeing the body remains.
They were both SO good in this series
Liar
@@corey2823the people who brainwashed you didn't need much material
Moral of the story.
If a soldier says; follow me to safety.
Do NOT go with them
4:10 Notice the rainbow blanket there. The flashback goes right to the mother and child who had that on her. Rather sad seeing how the kid ended up.
That absolutely broke my heart.
the little corpse... this show is so good.
I like so much that the authors position such a possibility of the appearance of zombies as realistic, not taking into account the fact that if people really did not know how to clean millet and flour from mushroom spores, then they would all have died of ergot a long time ago. Not to mention the fact that ants, on some species of which cordyceps parasitizes, do not attack other ants, but quietly go to a secluded place, die and give the fungus a nutritious basis for growth.
I think it's just meant to be "realistic" compared to the traditional virus or supernatural explanations that are used in zombie media. It's still very unrealistic, but it's based on a real natural process and uses a more plausible transmission vector rather than something like mutated rabies.
This is a certified Stratholme moment
The timeline of infection is kinda crazy to me. The same tainted product would not hit store shelves simultaneously.
The impression I got from the game is that it took a week or two before things were really spiraling out of control. By the time we see Joel and Sarah in the game there were already newspapers talking about mystery infections and tainted wheat products.
A pandemic like this doesn't destabilize a society in 24 hours.
In canon by the time people started transforming in zombies South and Central America had already started getting infected.
The pandemic started months before zombies showed up
@@solid_rooster4587 that makes way more sense than society collapsing in a weekend
@@locke2517 yeah, I love how realistic they make the pandemic in the last of us
To be fair, Joel says that this is his best guess and that nobody knows for sure the exact timeline of how it happened.
@@locke2517 I think Joel's retelling of the events is not entirely accurate specifically because nobody had time to figure out what actually happened. When the show starts with Joel and Sarah the TV is on and talking about some weird things going on in Jakarta. I forget which episode (I think the second?) we get a flashback to a doctor in Jakarta studying the infection and we learn that the dead infected she was looking at has been dead about 30 hours. At this point the Indonesian government still had it under raps so I doubt the news was already reporting it in the US, also that was in the morning for Joel so add another 12 hours to make it to night when he first encounters the infected and that's at least 42 hours or about 2 days. Joel also said it happened on a Friday and everything was gone by Monday, so that's another 3 days meaning it took at a minimum 5 days for society to collapse after the infected started to bite. Realistically it took longer because there are plenty of places where the time could have been stretched out and it still could have taken a couple weeks for an infected person to become violent, nobody in the show knows for sure because society collapsed before they could properly research it.
I always found interesting the "everything just crashed in one day". From Left Behind and Part II there was at least a semblence of normality as there were Halloween decorations in malls / shops so society held up for a bit longer, as well as newspaper articles throughout Part I and I, meaning there was still industry to make newspapers and distribute them.
Yeah I'd guess the outbreak killed most of the population but the people who managed to get into a QZ were able to keep some semblance of news moving
Oh yea. Same thing in " a quiet place" everything was normal than boom. Shit hit the fan
This is frankly (outside the zombies) still the most unbelievable part of the last of us universe.
The whole society won’t go in a day. Even low developed countries in the Middle East and Africa don’t go that fast
"low developed countries in the middle east & Africa? " Wow. The racism quickly jumped out
To be fair it was probably more regular society. Obviously the military and parts of the government persisted, and many of the rural communities survived until they were evacuated. And some isolated countries probably weren’t touched at all. It’s just that Bhutan surviving doesn’t help Americans in this situation.
I hope that the firefly lab section gets done it’s justice
It probably won't with how the show is going.
@@rachell8661 and what way is it going? although I didnt love this episode 1 and 2 have been fantastic. Don't get mad because gays got the spot light for one episode
*"Drugs, I sell hardcore drugs."*
- Sarah
God every time Pedro opens his mouth I expect to hear Joel from the game. The got it down so well but I cant help but expect to hear their voices from the game
its his complete lack of southern twang, oh well.
Pedro Pascal was the perfect choice. He even looks like Joel and almost got the same voice lmao
This was the moment he decided to go after Pablo Escabar.
Pedro Pascal is the GOAT, you can hear sublte change in his voice and face expression when he says "By monday everything was gone", he was explaining to Ellie that by monday world as everyone knew ended but what he really meant was that by monday Sarah was already dead so everything was gone for him.
Ellies face when joel tells de story of the people, it says everything.
Damn… honestly didn’t think this kid was gonna be as good of an actress as she is. Hereditary was an ok performance but this is great. She has potential for a long and celebrated career.
Sorry to be that guy but this isn’t the same actress as the girl In Hereditary.
Not Hereditary but she was already stellar in Game of Thrones
She was the most badass character on game of thrones lyanna mormont
Neil Druckman and Craig Mazin really out here making me double take every pastry I eat.
Nobody could have choose two better actors to play these characters than these two right here.
“I bet it was a monkey” nice little nod to 28 Days Later