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2, now my mostly light colored exterior is clean what is the best no polish way to get a wet look shine back on this thing. It looks so good while it is wet.
Is there anyone on the Gulf Coast of Florida who can do this for me?
We live near the Miyaka River preserve.
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Oh yes, after buying 4 off the lot RVs over 10 yrs we finally went out to newmar took the tour and sat down with them and finally got what we wanted. Theatre sets, no couches, extra counter space, fire place , cabinets , colors. We are very happy with our 2024 newmar Dutch star 4018😊😊
🙌 thanks for sharing!
I have a 15' trailer with small bathroom and no slides. Despite that, it feels spacious because I have a dinette that folds down as the "door" to a storage cupboard. I only have the table up when I need to use it. I've not seen this feature on any other RV, but I love it.
Well once again as a Newmar owner, four times now. Great job on the video. The first thing is the adage it takes your third coach to get it right. We had our 2018 Dutch Star built from a work sheet.
So let me start with your list.
1. You got the sofa thing figured out. We have the same sofa and when we have guests, almost never, I joke that we blow the mattress up fully on the first night but only half on the second and not at all on the third.
2. Having had both the Booth and the table workstation that you have, you are missing an option that Newmar has. We ordered the 2018 with a free-standing table. Looks like the one you have but it is free standing, and it has a much longer leaf. No, it doesn’t move going down the road, has more room for guests and takes up the same space as the one you have when stowed. Did I mention it can be used length wise in the coach so seat six if need be and it does fit through the door so it can go outside.
3. Propane is just one more thing to run out of. Full electric is the answer. The Induction cook top cooks just like gas. The key is to keep the bottom of your pans squeaky clean and you will see no difference. BTW when you get your DS you will see that the Induction Cook top can be taken outside to cook on as well.
4. Convection Microwave is outstanding. The Admiral makes pies and cakes in ours. Just take a bit of a learning curve.
5. One you missed is the Fisher Payel dishwasher. That is only because you haven’t had one, but your new DS will. It is so convenient, and the fact is it cleans dishes better than the $1500 one I have in my house.
6. Yes, the demand for water heaters are great. But when you have Diesel available, Oasis is the way to go without a doubt. Two 110V heater coils, heat from the engine cooling system so when you get there you have hot water or going down the road you have hot water, and Diesel flame as well. The only yearly service is changing the Diesel filter and making sure the igniter is working correctly.
7. Full body Paint and Clear coat is wonderful. DS are not cut and buffed lower than the rub rail. Cut and Buff is when you cannot feel the paint line between the different colors on the coach. To do the Buff and Cut it takes Newmar about 5 hours with four workers to do from the rub rail up. On Mountain Aire and above it takes a little bit longer than the eight to do the whole coach. My guess is you could get Newmar to do the bottom on a build sheet, of course for an up charge. All three of mine did not have the bottom done only the rub rail up.
8. SaniCon pump out is a good option. Your DS will have macerator heads, but the pump will empty both tanks, through an easy-to-handle hose within 10 minutes start to stop. No more orange 4” Anaconda sections to deal with.
9. Lithium Batteries is the answer without a doubt.
10. Can the Direct TV antenna and go with better Wi-Fi. We have a 1000 GB a month plan for $160 a month no throttling and after just three months on the road we are thinking of going to 500GB. We are using about 280GB a month right now so 500 will be more than enough. Of course, we do not use it the same as you do so maybe the1000GB would be better.
Now get out there and fix the wrinkles in that windshield Sunshade. Do I have to come over there? :>)))
The one addition I’d do on every coach I’ll own is to film the windshield. I had ours filmed with llimar air90. It’s clear so it it legal but it cuts 99% of the uv rays and 66% of the heat. I also filmed the side windows (driver and door) 30% it cuts the glare to where I don’t have to wear sunglasses on sunny days. Our dash air is out but with house ac,s running and a stick fan we don’t need dash air. Also when your parked in combination to the window shade or magna shade there is virtually no temp difference inside from front to the back. It’s definitely worth it.
We have Starlink at the house and we have been super happy with it! Our new RV comes off the line end of October! We were just talking about getting a Starlink for the rv! So perfect timing with your awesome info and your pole attachment! Thanks! Loving your channel! Safe travels!
That is awesome!
Too funny, I remember when we thought people were going to go camping with us lol
Even when we told him they didn’t have to dump the tanks they wouldn’t go lol
We attended the Tampa RV show one year, and took a seminar, which was the best seminar we ever went to as far as learning to RV. We had probably been RVing for eight years by then. The couple that was giving the seminar and I don’t remember the name, said , drink for Six, dinner for four and sleeping for two!
Of course, we have a handicap sister-in-law and a Newmar Canyon star with a wheelchair lift in it, because well she hast to go with us. But that’s funny, I remember thinking yeah we’ll take our friends with us… Not.
I’ll tell you after going to several larger RV shows the one I would never buy is the “show model special” …. The one that’s had thousands of people walk through and touch and test every square inch. I saw “brand new” units practically falling apart after a busy show season
We bought our Bounder new in 2011. It came with both convection/microwave and gas oven. The gas ovens are well known for not cooking even. A lot of people add pizza stones to help. Once I learned how to use the convection, I use it all the time. I even had it put in our winter home we bought in 2018. I also went to induction in the RV because propane had so many safety issues. Anytime we walked by the knobs would get bumped. We set off the propane alarm too many times.
Booth for us; made into a bed for the dog creates. Propane so we can make perk coffee when boondocking without turning on the generator. Convection oven over the tiny propane oven - cooks much better. Tank water heater over hydronic due to lower maintenance. Long couch so the wife can lay out and watch TV with all her chihuahuas on her.
lol awesome
Always great when you guys drop a vid and love this topic. We are finalizing our outfitting choices on an Explorer and your points are helpful. . On the topic of Lithium and in particular LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate aka LiFePO4 I) wanted to chime in.
In the last decade or so, the cost of these batteries has fallen by more than 80% and in 2022, key use patents started to expire accelerating the drop in prices even further. Unfortunately, many/most manufactures are not passing the dramatic drop in prices to their buyers. For example, a recent price quote from on a 2025 coach showed almost $20k; worth of batteries that could be sourced for less than $2500. These prices are only going to continue to drop...something to be aware of when negotiating a buy or considering an upgrade. In appreciation!
100% agree
We have a Truma water heater on our 1 year old DRV 5th wheel. Only problem with Truma is that if the unit is not well sealed to the sidewall, it can get water inside in a heavy rain. It has shorted out the main circuitboard twice. Truma's customer service is top notch, and I have been able to get replacement circuit boards within a day or two (still too long with cold showers!) Tech availability takes more time, but the circuit board is user replaceable - I was able to replace the board without further assistance. Once I figured out where the water was coming from, I sealed it, and have had no further trouble. It's a great unit.
Good to hear they were a great help to you. 👍
Our 23 Tiffin Phaeton XSH 40 is an all electric coach that took some getting use to because our previous diesel coaches both had propane. Our cooktop heats evenly, but it was helpful that our coach came with nice, s.s. appropriate cookware. Our convection micro-
wave has an air-fryer and the AquaHot 450D has heat and hot water w/o limits. We do enjoy not having to fill the propane with its dangers, and this seems safer. Heated porcelain floors are wonderful and would be hard to give up. But these coaches are all so expensive and it would be difficult going without these creature comforts once you've had them. The theater seating is unreal and that was the one we had to have. I wish all the rest was FREE!
I’m with MJ, still debating big time on the RV we’re going to get this year is Booth versus table. Booth is so much more comfortable but the table with the window ledge gives you much more space for #Stuff.
Great video. Agree with you on the dining table vs booth! The other option we have that I wasn't sure was important was a bath and a half. Now that we are used to it, wouldn't go back to just one bath. Great video!
I love Newmar's booth that extends with power no need for extra chairs!
Induction for safety and decreasing the heat in the RV. I wish I had induction in my RV. We have it in our home and it' so nice. The flames in the RV put out so much additional heat into the RV and you have to pay for the propane. Our home induction turns itself off if a pot is moved. It also leaves the top pretty cool after you remove the pot/pan from the cooktop. I love the tankless water heater. I put it on 98 and when I take a shower I just turn the hot water side on. The water comes out perfect without having to balance it with cold.
Great vid! #1 check which manufacturer service dealer is closest to you. e.g. who will service your motorhome after you buy it. Remember, the chassis (motor, transmission, wheels, rear, etc) is a different service dealer than the house/home part of your motorhome. For example, CampingWorld will only Service the home. Ford, Freightliner will only service the chassis. (Freightliner “Oasis” Service shops will service both). We owned a 2022 class-a 40’ gas motorhome and traded it in for an “all electric” 2025 class-a 40’ diesel with AquaHot hydronic; much better.
Great topic, MJ, Izzy and Jason! We have found that some things that sound good conceptually, don't necessarily work out in actual practice. We had a booth in our previous coach and really didn't like it very much, but that was partly a function of the quality, or lack thereof. We really like the dinette in the DS, the back bar area is much more useable and provides extra storage as well as a place to setup a laptop as you noted. Agree about the two recliners as opposed to having two sofas, recliners are much more useful, at least for us. While I like a gas cooktop and stove at home, I would worry about gas leaks in an RV that is jostled traveling on rough roads. But we do find the induction cooktop cooks kind of spotty, hot spots/not so hotspots. The DS gives the option of heating water with diesel or electric. We usually use the diesel, it takes very little fuel to heat water and we've never run out of hot water for showers, washing dishes, etc. The Battleborn Lithium batteries sound like a worthwhile upgrade, providing more power and much longer lifespan and no maintenance, though I know the installation involves more than just the batteries and isn't cheap. We have a satellite dish on our RV, but I can't remember the last time we used it, we generally just hookup to the cable connection that most campgrounds have.
Thank you for sharing Wes
My options would be: trifold sofa,( for our taller son) booth dinette do to comfort and you can store stuff under the benches and last for me is a 12 volt or resident fridge. And for me those are the options I want mostly. Great video 🎉
Third motorhome, 1st older HR class A (gas) not bad few issues fun for weekends with the kids. 2nd Thor Class C no real camping problems but driving was a nightmare, $2K in upgrade to the suspension a lot better but still work. Add LiF4 BB batteries and victon inverter, a coach you could take on vacation and boondock. Now we are full time and stepped it up to a super C Renegade Verona LE all electric I added LiF4 batteries and swapped out the Magnetron inverter for the Victron. living our best life and never had any regrets with our purchase. Love to drive the coach so much easier than the class C. This is our story.
I chose the Euro booth and love it, but no sleeping option. An advanced to an induction stove top is it cools as soon as turned off. I use cast iron cookware. A convection oven should, by design, cook more evenly than a conventional one. My next one will be ceramic coated before it leaves the dealership, likely NIRVC, and have Rettroband installed.
Good choices
Thanks you 3. ALWAYS enjoy your info. Love the versatile cleaner. Will be ordering & sharing with big brother. (We're not spring chickens anymore. WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER)
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I want a Brinkley motorhome/super c on a freightliner chasis!
When asked how many people does our Winnebago class A sleep, my wife says TWO!!!!
Dining room Would rather have a table and chairs because my son is tall and his knees hit the table leg - We converted ours keeping the table top, bought bar stools and bar height metal frame This made that section lighter in weight
I have a propane stovetop and oven but refuse to use it because of the nightmare our first RV had - I would use it all the time if it were electric
I thought I wanted a tankless water heater for the shower but after getting so used to taking military showers, I didn't see the need when we got this 5th wheel
One thing you didn't touch on was refrigerator I'll take a household fridge over gas/electric fridge any day - Summertime the heat from outside literally starts melting things in my freezer and fridge when it's hot Having the awning out doesn't help
Also in the heating department We had vents in the floor of our first RV We could never use the propane in that RV (used a space heater) but I hated how dog hair would constantly get in the trap So when I saw the heat came out of side vents in our current 5th wheel, I was excited - That was until we spent our first night in there (January) The air literally came out cold out of the vents Glad we have a fireplace in here
Thanks for your thoughts. 👍
Thank you guys. It's always informative for me and I appreciate that.
Thanks again ✌️😊
Our pleasure!
I am fortunate that it will be just me, so everything in my van (Ford Transit High Roof Extended AWD - lifted and bigger tires) is chosen for me and me only. I got the propane stove - actually a propane range, so I can cook the way I prefer. For safety, I will be using one pound bottles, so if there is any leakage, it will, hopefully be minimal, and I'll be very careful. I bought the refillable 1 lb kegs, as I don't want to litter the environment with little metal canisters. I will carry a 5lb canister in the van box at the back outside of the van, tightly capped. I will have a queen sized bed, wet bath, and an awesome power and heating/cooling system. I have a 48v 10K EcoFlow power kit, which will charge from 300w of solar panels on the roof or through the secondary alternator in the van. My air conditioner is a 48v X3 Nomadic, which is extremely energy efficient, and I have a Webasto heater that sips gas from my regular gas tank to keep my van warm on cold days. My tanks are inside where they are kept warm so I don't have to winterize the van seasonally, as I will be living in it year round. Internet will be through Insty Connect, using their Insty Squared antenna and 5G modem. I looked at many class b and c rigs before choosing to have a van custom built by Drifter Vans in Detroit. It will be so much nicer than anything I could have bought off a lot.
Knowing it's a 10 year stay (thanks to the silly park rules) we tend to lean into the more modern interiors as we fear the standard contemporary stuff will hurt or age it more at trade-in time
Good video, we’ve ordered a couple rigs years past and did pretty good selecting options. Our current RV was purchased at the Hershey show and has every option available at that time so we are very happy with it. I am not concerned about propane in our RV’s. It is no more dangerous than the 80 gallons of gasoline in the fuel tank or the lithium batteries that can ignite if a failure occurs. It helps being a combustion tech who installed & started up a propane plant that required running the liquid into a huge boiler to flash off sufficient volume of gas to mix with air at 15 to 1, then pump into the natural gas lines to run a steel plant when the gas company curtailed them. We fondly referred to it as the Armageddon Plant where I pushed the start button for the first time. Propane is no big deal when used properly.
Lifep04 batteries do not combust.
@@Furrylongtail Good to know, I suppose its the older composition ones that are a fire issue.
We got the booth dinning, but want to take it out now and replace with theater seating. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for another great video Izzy and MJ !! We currently have a dinette and I agree, the chairs aren’t as comfortable as the booths that we’ve tried.
I too am a propane cooktop fan. The flame is easy to adjust and it’s more precise. Our new rig is all electric so it’ll be a learning curve for us.
We’ll have the hydronic heating on our new rig too. Another learning curve 😁
We have Starlink and we’ve been very happy with it so far.
Thanks for sharing!! So excited about your new rig.
@@EndlessRVing We are too!! Just heard yesterday that it’s off of the production line🙌🙌 Now we just have to wait for delivery and a third party inspection before we can take delivery.
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That young man is a trooper… as a 6’3 or 4” guy myself I can tell you it’s pretty miserable sleeping with your feet hanging off… but he’s making the best of it!
Great video! I like both booth dinettes and table. I like microwaves never have convention microwaves. But I heard you can bake cookies them. I hear you on those trifolds. I like what you have now. I saw Izzy with Release wondering if Izzy does windows? lol! 😂 Can’t wait to see your next Rv. Have fun see you both soon!
Thank you for your videos
Hot is a matter of opinion, we are in Phoenix AZ, it’s been 115° for the last few weeks and we are trying to load up and head for PA.
As for cook tops, I like just a 2 burner propane cook top. Don't need an oven. We have a microwave convection in the house...meh....
We are considering a Class A, maybe largeC, and paint wise I'd be happy with just one solid paint color.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video with real world experience. One question - given the amount of lithium you carry,,, would you delete the generator option in a new coach going forward?
No way
My camping history went from a tent to a soft-side camper that you crank up, to a 30' travel trailer to a 37 ft Class A. All have advantages and disadvantages. Sold the Class A decades ago and now ready to get back into traveling and decided there is only one type for me: A Super C with the M2 Freightliner. Why? Because of the drive train and safety. It has nothing to do with how bad @ss they look ;-) Yes, they are expensive, but I've worked hard for 40 years so why not? Will likely pick up one used and try to save $50k but shall see. Love your informational videos, no BS or annoying music.
Thanks for sharing. 👍
Hello Izzy & MJ! I recently found your channel and enjoy how informative and authentic you guys are.
How do you decide whether to get a gas motorhome or a diesel? Is it a certain "level" of motorhome that makes the choice for you, or is it truly a buyer's choice? What's the advantage and/or disadvantage of one over the other?
Thanks for what you do and enjoy the trip.
Thanks for the kind words. Here is a video that might interest you. We also do offer 1-1 consults if you’re interested.
8 Important Reasons Why We Are Buying A Diesel Motorhome!
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Did you consider AGM batteries, and did you have to upgrade your converter when you went to Lithium? In my opinion an inflatable air mattress is most comfortable type of sofa.
Yes updated inverter.
Wish we had Lithium, maybe at some point. Hard to justify when part timing. Love our furrion tankless water system with water miser. Aqua hot is great but big maintenance item and take up a ton of space in the basement.
We are hanging on to Tmobile as long as we can then will switch to something but won't be Starlink
@@Super_C_Chows you will love lithium
Izzy we noticed tonight watching your video and noticed some on your bedroom slide that we saw on another BS bedroom slide. It looks like yours has a rack and pinion but the rack extends below the face of the slide. Our bedroom slides doesn’t have the lower tabs. It may be because of the floor plan because the other BS we saw was the same floor plan as ours. Just curious why it’s that way. I’ve only seen it on diesels best I can remember.
Real simple - want something better special order and get what you want, not what they have on the lot. Higher end DP, only way to do it.
You will be amazed how fast induction is. It isn’t like standard electric.
Thank you for another informative video. What is the device sticking up in the air between the two theater chairs? Is that a projector?
USB and 120 outlets
Love watching you folks. My wife and I have been RVing for many years, and have always had 5th wheels. Now that it’s pretty much just her and I we are looking at small 30-35’ class A. Looking at gas engines but I have a few questions for you. We currently have a 2022 F350 dually with a 6.7 Diesel with a 10 speed transmission. Our trailer is a Pinecrest 392MBP which is about 42’ and We get around 9-10 mpg towing. What kind of mileage are you folks getting with that V10? The ones we are looking at have the Ford 7.3L in them. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
I use my convection at home almost exclusively
You are so right that your friends and family don’t camp with you.
What is your thought on using microfiber towels to wipe of the release cleaner?
That’s is the best choice
Here is my question after seeing your video. How were you able to run your a/c using the lithium batteries. Did you change the inverter? Did your rig allowed that or you had to make modifications? My inverter , a 2000 watts, from factory ( I have a 2023 Fleetwood 35K) only powers the fridge, and a couple outlets. I do have a lithium 300 amp battery that kept from my travel trailer, but I think if I replace my 4 x6volts golf type from factory, I still will no able to run an a/c because of the way the electrical my be setup.
Victron multiplex II inverter
Very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Any thoughts regarding washer/dryers?
What about dishwashers?
@@TScottWoll if you will use them go for it.
Thank you.🎉❤
Thanks for watching! :)
Just a question. Why didn't you attend the Edison NJ RV Show 2024 at the Raritan Expo Center this summer...
We had other engagements.
I miss my residential convection oven.
How does your liquid spring ride compare to that of a diesel pusher?
Ride and handling are on par
Please cover solar!
Theater seats all the way
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The only bonehead move we made when ordering our Dutch Star was not “specialing” in a microwave vent to the outside of the coach. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
U guys need to bite the bullet go out to Newmar sit down with them and order that new DUTCH STAR
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Save yourself a ton of sales commissions and sales taxes and buy your third motorhome first. Research research research.
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Oh yes, after buying 4 off the lot RVs over 10 yrs we finally went out to newmar took the tour and sat down with them and finally got what we wanted. Theatre sets, no couches, extra counter space, fire place , cabinets , colors. We are very happy with our 2024 newmar Dutch star 4018😊😊