As per shooting the same bows at the ATA I like your choices and I agree on the Bear legend for sure been shooting and selling bow for 30 years and the Legend rocked all those high end bows by far and We do not even sell Bear bows and for the price wow !!!!
If you really think people shouldnt buy new bows you shouldnt be watching this video. I for one am sick of people posting comments like this just to be a dick. Go find a bridge to live under troll.
Pretty sure I could shoot the new Prime, Bowtech, Elite, Matthews, and Hoyt all day for a week straight and not be fully convinced which one I like most…..guessing it would change day to day as they are all awesome.
Bear legend XR all day for me half the cost of all the other bows I’d rather spend 1000$ on a bow and accessories than just a bow. Hand shock isn’t that big of deal let’s be honest, this bow has accuracy and value.
You forgot to mention that Mathews and Hoyt were not at the show so they are not in the comparison. Also you did not mention the PSE Fortis which has a new and improved grip that is super comfortable.
💯 exactly what I was thinking. Pretty interesting that nothing was mentioned about that so now everyone is thinking that the $500 Bear was better than Hoyt or Mathews and I guarantee you the drawcycle of a Hoyt or Mathews would put that Darton drawcycle to shame.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Was it only Athens, Pse, Darton & Bear at the ATA this year for compound Bow companies? From the vids I seen here on YT the big 4 weren’t there? P.S I wasn’t downing Canada,Love the neighbor country. Requires woodsman skills & a spare liver to get comfortable there lol. At 19 my circle got passports and crossed the border came back hungover lol.
@@joelaskey2121 Definitely a lot of bow manufacturers weren’t here. In addition to the five in this list, there was also Martin, Obsession, Athens, Gearhead…and I’m probably forgetting some others. Xpedition was supposed to be here, but their booth wasn’t set up. Maybe a travel issue?
Perhaps ypu should mention that some of the major bow manufacturers did not exhibit at the show and their bows was not available to shoot.Great feedback on the 5 bows you picked
Would heave been better if you showed all the bow companies that made it to ATA vs just “top” 5. Would have loved to see impressions of Athens lineup as well as the others vs just sticking to the 5 big name companies. I know everyone has their bias.
@@aaronshorter864 Ideally, I’d be able to have a camera operator with me. I could shoot a bow and give a live reaction. But I’m there by myself, so it’s difficult. I was lucky enough to find a volunteer to record me shooting the five bows for this video.
Just seems crazy on the prices on these so called flagship bows. Just seems crazy to me to be spending 1200 plus on just a bear bow is crazy in my opinion
First compound bow I had at 9 , a bear junior. Won a provincial tournament 3 months after starting shooting a bow. Left the sport 2 years after. 49 now wanted to get back at it . Had a soft spot for bear bows.. everything decent is so expensive in other brands. So I picked up a bear legit that was on special cuz I can't afford anything else.. feels really good shoots awsome. Got rid of the biscuit arrow holder right out of the bat.. so I go in pro shops.. and they say ohhh that's a crappie bow... all of them... why?? If I could afford a 3000$ man would go for it now!. It's like all or nothing in this industry.. I whant to change the ordinary sight on it, for a tape ajustable for tak competition. In canada they are all over 400$ for the normal ones! That's the price I paid my bow complet in the first place... thanks for including a Bear bow in your listing.. I am going to prove them wrong with my crappie new bow with my mods on! 🤘👊👍
I bought the Bear whitetail legend pro over the Vista last year.... The bear is actually nicer than you'd think. The riser itself isn't as refined however .. the Vista had an very nice finish over $1500 bows imo.
You should change the name of your video to "The 5 New Bows Butthurt list at the 2023 ATA Show". A lot of guys get butthurt because their favorite bow wasn't on the list even though some bow manufacturers didn't attend the show.
@@ArcheryTalkVideoin this case it’s not butt hurt you’re just flat out misleading. One would assume all big manufacturers are at the show but come to find out they are not. Now you have people thinking a bear bow is better than a Mathew’s and Hoyt flagship. Which we know just isn’t true.
Hes already reviews those bows. This was just video for bows he hasnt yet reviewed until the ATA. Plus mathews and hoyt if im not mistaken arent even there
It seem like all big bow manufactures would have been at the ATA show, my bad. I am wanting to see the Bowtech SS 34 in a honest review with Hoyt and Matthews.
Your review is very misleading which doesn't make your review very credible. You fail to mention that Mathews, Hoyt, and several other companies were not at he show. The average archer would never have this information. Which makes all your past reviews questionable.
@@stevenwalker9013 yeah Matthews should have it perfected by now, they’ve been building Halons and putting a different model name on them every year since 2016.
As per shooting the same bows at the ATA I like your choices and I agree on the Bear legend for sure been shooting and selling bow for 30 years and the Legend rocked all those high end bows by far and We do not even sell Bear bows and for the price wow !!!!
And every one of them will be obsolete by this time next year so keep ur money in your pocket and shoot your old bow better ! U do not need a new bow
I'm still shooting my 2012 dream season Evo and the new ones are no faster or lighter in it's class. Everything seems to have hit a wall.
Just because a new bow comes out doesn’t mean the prior year bow is obsolete. It just means there is a new one that you may or may not like better.
Thanks for the pep talk to 🤣
If you really think people shouldnt buy new bows you shouldnt be watching this video. I for one am sick of people posting comments like this just to be a dick. Go find a bridge to live under troll.
And wasting money on a carbon bow...and paying money for big guys advertising when a 400 500 bow is just as good or better
Pretty sure I could shoot the new Prime, Bowtech, Elite, Matthews, and Hoyt all day for a week straight and not be fully convinced which one I like most…..guessing it would change day to day as they are all awesome.
I don’t think you’re wrong.
Truth. It's literally just to notch engineering with these companies. You're going off personal preference. Like a Gallardo with different wheels.
I ordered the ss34 a few weeks ago. Never shot a bowtech. My archery shop had one , shot it once then ordered. Sweet bow
I shot a lot of bows the past two days…I didn’t have any trouble picking a winner.
This is for sure the truth man the ss34 is a beast I done a review on my channel amd will have many others to come
Bear legend XR all day for me half the cost of all the other bows I’d rather spend 1000$ on a bow and accessories than just a bow. Hand shock isn’t that big of deal let’s be honest, this bow has accuracy and value.
I would like to get my hands on maybe four affordable hunting bows and see how they compare.
Hopefully you get your hands on a lot of the 2023 Show, compound bows to do your good honest full review...👍👍
I hope so too!
Great video! It’s nice to see other companies standing out over some that are typically up there
Only because Mathews and Hoyt aren’t there.
Great video Lucas I appreciate all the work you do in your reviews!👍
All of the Matthews boys are mad at this one for sure.
You forgot to mention that Mathews and Hoyt were not at the show so they are not in the comparison. Also you did not mention the PSE Fortis which has a new and improved grip that is super comfortable.
Now this makes more sense
💯 exactly what I was thinking. Pretty interesting that nothing was mentioned about that so now everyone is thinking that the $500 Bear was better than Hoyt or Mathews and I guarantee you the drawcycle of a Hoyt or Mathews would put that Darton drawcycle to shame.
I wish APA bows would get more recognition.
Agreed!! Its a Canadian made product.Probably won’t ever get the recognition they deserve. Which is Sad.A lot of American archers are pretentious
Agreed!! Its a Canadian made product.Probably won’t ever get the recognition they deserve. Which is Sad.A lot of American archers are pretentious
@@joelaskey2121 To be fair…I am Canadian. Also…they weren’t at the show.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Was it only Athens, Pse, Darton & Bear at the ATA this year for compound Bow companies? From the vids I seen here on YT the big 4 weren’t there? P.S I wasn’t downing Canada,Love the neighbor country. Requires woodsman skills & a spare liver to get comfortable there lol. At 19 my circle got passports and crossed the border came back hungover lol.
@@joelaskey2121 Definitely a lot of bow manufacturers weren’t here. In addition to the five in this list, there was also Martin, Obsession, Athens, Gearhead…and I’m probably forgetting some others. Xpedition was supposed to be here, but their booth wasn’t set up. Maybe a travel issue?
Bow prices Are stupid nowadays, I feel sorry for the guys who have been convinced they need a new one every year
I shot the SS 34 , nice , probably end up with one
Perhaps ypu should mention that some of the major bow manufacturers did not exhibit at the show and their bows was not available to shoot.Great feedback on the 5 bows you picked
Exactly!!! Interesting that little tidbit of info wasn’t in the video. Kinda skews the credibility of the results.
Why and who wasn’t there?
No recurves?
Did you get your hands on the Xpedition X Lite?
Would heave been better if you showed all the bow companies that made it to ATA vs just “top” 5. Would have loved to see impressions of Athens lineup as well as the others vs just sticking to the 5 big name companies. I know everyone has their bias.
There is a video on Athens I did earlier in the show. Same with Martin and Obsession.
I have shot nothing but Athens bows since 2014.. love them.. to me nothing compares..!!
If you've "shot nothing but Athens bows since 2004" how do you KNOW if "nothing compares"? Seem like a stupid thing to say now, doesn't it.
I saw the one with Jim going over the specs. Would of liked to your impressions of it is all.
@@aaronshorter864 Ideally, I’d be able to have a camera operator with me. I could shoot a bow and give a live reaction. But I’m there by myself, so it’s difficult. I was lucky enough to find a volunteer to record me shooting the five bows for this video.
Just seems crazy on the prices on these so called flagship bows. Just seems crazy to me to be spending 1200 plus on just a bear bow is crazy in my opinion
What release are your shooting during this testing ?
I brought a B3 Ghost hinge release with me to the show.
Sucks that none of the bigger companies were there this year
It's a bit of a bummer for sure. I'm not positive they will be coming back any time soon.
Good review. Shame that Bear can not be bought online.
I’m pretty sure you can buy Bear bows online.
I bought the bear legend xr for the first compound bow I hope I am not wrong 👋
Not surprised the phase 4 didn’t make your cut! I need to go shoot the Revex and see if it’s worth spending the money on for me.
Mathews and Hoyt aren’t there. They would definitely be in the top 3. Both
Try the bear legend save the money you might be happier?👍🏹😁
Did you shoot the CP30 along with the SS34?
Yes. Shot both plus the Carbon bow.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo I’m torn between the ss34 and cp30. Both feel great.
You forgot to mention that Mathews and Hoyt were not at the show so they are not in the comparison
I understand Mathews
and Hoyt were not present at this show
can wait to see the bear xr review
Bear hasn’t sent me a bow in a very long time. We shall see if they are interested.
First compound bow I had at 9 , a bear junior. Won a provincial tournament 3 months after starting shooting a bow. Left the sport 2 years after. 49 now wanted to get back at it . Had a soft spot for bear bows.. everything decent is so expensive in other brands. So I picked up a bear legit that was on special cuz I can't afford anything else.. feels really good shoots awsome. Got rid of the biscuit arrow holder right out of the bat.. so I go in pro shops.. and they say ohhh that's a crappie bow... all of them... why?? If I could afford a 3000$ man would go for it now!. It's like all or nothing in this industry.. I whant to change the ordinary sight on it, for a tape ajustable for tak competition. In canada they are all over 400$ for the normal ones! That's the price I paid my bow complet in the first place... thanks for including a Bear bow in your listing.. I am going to prove them wrong with my crappie new bow with my mods on! 🤘👊👍
@@mayhem035I have a Legit also. It is anything but a “crappy” bow.
@@stevepauley2437 legit bear team! 😉👍
I Bowtech SX80, which should be an 80lb ss34
I don’t have the shoulders to shoot 80 pounds. I suppose visiting the gym could fix that…
@@ArcheryTalkVideo 👍🤣😂🤔 nice sarcasm,luv ya for your sense of humor too!
You shoot the new apa?
They weren’t at the show.
Was APA at the 2023 show?
They were not.
No Athens? Impossible the bear, pse or prime beats em in any of those except price.
They are definitely the hidden gem of the bow world. Love my Vista 33
I bought the Bear whitetail legend pro over the Vista last year.... The bear is actually nicer than you'd think. The riser itself isn't as refined however .. the Vista had an very nice finish over $1500 bows imo.
Are you going to shoot as my Martin bows
If Martin will send me a bow, I will certainly shoot it. I quite liked the Martin MTX at the show. Easily could have made this list.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo how about the dsx, have you shot that bow.
@@johnsand8495 Only at the show. Never had one for a long-term test.
Elite era?
They weren't at the show
@@fishkiller96 dang!
No Elite, Hoyt or Matthews at this show, unfortunately.
4 on 5 bow like the same with other label...
Target bows?
The Bowtech Reckoning gent outstanding. PSE brought out a not-quite-released target bow, but not sure they let anyone shoot it.
You should change the name of your video to "The 5 New Bows Butthurt list at the 2023 ATA Show". A lot of guys get butthurt because their favorite bow wasn't on the list even though some bow manufacturers didn't attend the show.
Every time I do a multi-bow comparison or a list like this, folks get their feathers ruffled.
@@ArcheryTalkVideoin this case it’s not butt hurt you’re just flat out misleading. One would assume all big manufacturers are at the show but come to find out they are not. Now you have people thinking a bear bow is better than a Mathew’s and Hoyt flagship. Which we know just isn’t true.
That’s your opinion
That’s an astute observation.
Phase4…..
Instead of a new bow every year go take a lesson. You’ll soon find out it’s never the bow!
You picked these bows over mathews and hoyt? I find that very hard to believe.
Just because it's hoyt and mathews does not make them the best.
They also didn't attend though
Probably won’t ever see Mathew’s or Hoyt come back it’s just not worth the time and money
Why? Hoyt has sucked for years and Mathews just keeps rebranding the same top heavy garbage
Hoyt didn't change anything lol
Now everyone knows that Matthews and Hoyt are overrated
Hes already reviews those bows. This was just video for bows he hasnt yet reviewed until the ATA. Plus mathews and hoyt if im not mistaken arent even there
@@seanc4564 You are correct - no Mathews/Hoyt/Elite at this show.
It seem like all big bow manufactures would have been at the ATA show, my bad. I am wanting to see the Bowtech SS 34 in a honest review with Hoyt and Matthews.
Your review is very misleading which doesn't make your review very credible. You fail to mention that Mathews, Hoyt, and several other companies were not at he show. The average archer would never have this information. Which makes all your past reviews questionable.
The video is literally called "Top 5 New Bows at the 2023 ATA Show." If you find that misleading...don't let the door hit you on the way out.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo It didn't !
How did Mathews not make this list?
Pretty simple... they didn't make one of the top 5 bows at the show.
Mathews sucks
Matthews wasn’t at the show. Hoyt also wasn’t here.
@@curtaprilbardfamily5378 lol, they aren’t there. Hoyt either. If they were , both would be top 3
@@stevenwalker9013 yeah Matthews should have it perfected by now, they’ve been building Halons and putting a different model name on them every year since 2016.