Aladdin: How To Introduce a Character
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2019
- This week I compare Aladdin's introduction in the original animated film to the 2019 remake to see what we can learn about introducing the audience to a main character.
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The whole point of animation is to do what can't be done in live action. When you remake a classic animated movie into live action, you're taking away the whole reason that movie was made in the first place.
Precisely!
@@CenterRow scar: *starts singing "be prepared"*
Deadass
@@Pissicist2394 Lol
THANK YOU!!!!
I feel like the live action versions count on you having seen the original movie because then you automatically fill in the gaps for yourself. You know why the live action characters are doing something but only because you remember their motivations from the animated original. That's why everything is so rushed and flat; they count on nostalgic audiences to see it more as a retelling than an independent film, but still market them as the latter.
Exactly!
It’s interesting because I had never seen the original movie since my parents bought very little “classic” Disney movies for me as a kid (I just always watched the new ones when they came out, except for maybe two or three older movies we actually had at home) but I went to see the remake with a friend who wanted to see it because she’s actually Arabian and I absolutely loved it. I didn’t really feel like there were any gaps or motivations I didn’t get. Same goes for my family who I showed the movie to later (who had also never seen the original). I didn’t really discuss the movie with people who had already seen the original except for the Arabian friend I mentioned and she loved it too so I never got any other perspectives on it.
@ You can't miss what you never had. You going into the remake without having seen the original is like a person who enjoys an Arby's meal because he's never been to any other fast food joint.
@ I'm in the same boat. Only saw the first one when i was very small. I thought the live action was very good-- not a mind-blowing work of art, but a solid movie with excellent actors. The sets were beautiful. Some people have legitimate points about why the first was better but i think a lot of people's opinions were warped by sentimentality
rat bastian it’s lazy filmmaking in every sense of the term
I wish you'd analyze the whole movie this way.
Hooo boy that'd be a long video
@@CenterRow haha true. But it'd be so interesting to delve even deeper into how both movies handled characterization. This video was super fun! I felt something was missing with the new version of Aladdin, but chalked it up to him being more the dorky awkward-cute type compared to the animated version's rakish charm. But you pointed out a lot of little characterization-affecting things I had completely missed!
@@Raelis23 Thanks! Who knows, maybe I'll tackle the whole film one day.
@@CenterRow well, you could go in parts and make several smaller videos. :)
A part that really showed me how misguided the movie was is the Cave of Wonders sequence. That part felt like it did absolutely everything wrong, but I've barely seen anyone mention it.
It's like drawing the outline of a character from an image instead of studying the form and proportions. It'll be wonky and directionless.
Good way to put it!
Great analogy
One reason I dislike these remakes so much is because they are banking on everyone who watches the new movie to have also seen and loved the old one. Because of this way of thinking it causes them to cut or not use elements that are essential in building these loveable characters so that they can cram more "original" elements in so that they will get praise for "reinventing the movie" when all they have done is make a heartless copy. These movies are not made to last, they will be forgotten in 5, 10 years while the originals will live on because they were created with such love and passion, these are a quick cash in on the nostalgia of their once great creativity.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
One “remake” I’m very excited to see is Mulan! They’re sticking closer to the Chinese roots of the story so it’s not going to be 100% the animated movie!
@@piratediscoking1392 No,because of reviewers and UA-cam you will remember that it was a thing that existed,but that is about it.
I mean, yeah. We’ve already completely forgotten about the live action Cinderella. Beauty and the Beast is pretty much goon from our minds too. Sure, Aladdin was a big meme, but it will definitely be forgotten as well.
daryl esese oh boy did this age bad
I loved the live action (and normally I hate all of them), but this one was very well done. HOWEVER, it was unnecessary to make a LIVE ACTION Aladdin. In an interview they said: “Little girls and boys will look up to you and they will grow up with this movie” and my heart just broke. The kids should grow up with the animated movies instead.
Amen!
It's almost as if they're attempting to rewrite history and sweep every 'mistake' they've made in the animated movies under the rug :/
I disagree im happy growing up with this
That's a bit harsh don't you think? If kids growing up like this movie, wouldn't they also wanna go back to the original aladdin?
Gaming Galaxies No, the kids _wouldn’t_ want to go back to the original, because the only idea they’ll have of the movie is the boring live-action version. They won’t bother to see it again in the animated versions, because they’ve been told the animated versions are the same exact thing but crappy, sexist, and childish, because that’s what all the marketing is trying to tell people the animated versions are like. Children aren’t magically going to know the animated movies are any better unless their parents tell them why. And the kind of lazy parents that would take their kids to the live action cash grabs and make them sound like the same great thing as the originals, probably aren’t going to explain _why_ the originals were any better. So the kids won’t bother, because why would they? They think they know the story and it wasn’t _that_ good. And they’ll assume the animated version is a worse version of the new, modern one, because that’s what they’ve been told, and their parents won’t explain exactly why the originals were better.
Twisted: The Untold Story Of a Royal Vizier will always be the best live-action version of Aladdin
Agreed!
YES!
YASSS I AGREED!!!
Yassss
Yes!!
I don't get the algorithm. You have videos that surpassed the 400 000 views mark and then you have equally good ones that barely get 4 000 views. How?
Believe me friend, I wish I knew. Feel free to help out and share any videos you like on Reddit, that can help!
lol, the algorithm recommends this video to me, and glad it did!
Probably because it is politically incorrect to dislike a film that has arabian influences. So UA-cam doesn't like it when someone gives valid criticism on it. That's my guess
@@CenterRow The titles of your videos can be improved. You need to state more what you're saying in the video, and if it's to do with Disney, put Disney in the title! A better title for this that I believe would increase viewership would be "How Disney Live Action FAILS at Character Introduction" Or something similar. Bit more click-baity, says a bit more obviously what the video's thesis is, mentions Disney, fails is also a very strong title word especially with all caps. Slightly more attention grabby.
@@CenterRow Another example for your "The Problem With Nostalgia Filmmaking" I would convert that to "Why Nostalgia is TERRIBLE in Films". I know I know it's bad and you may feel averse to doing this but it is what it is. I think doing this to get a bit of a larger audience before toning down the click-bait might be a decent idea to increase viewership.
"Where did/you get/that French/Baguette?"
"That's how cartoon bread's drawn!"
Ha!
I understood that reference 😂
A framing deviiice, for this whismical taaaaaale.
The credits will go, much faster you know?
So the young kids won't baaaaaiiiiiil!
Even the bg characters in the animated movie have more character than the live action movie. Like the little orphan girl hesitated before taking the bread and both of the kids looked so thankful but in the live action the kid just takes it!
Exactly! Heck, the kid looks kinda smug in the new one.
@@CenterRow Kind of like he was expecting Aladdin to give it to him. That scene made me wonder if they had chosen to give Aladdin a family in the live action version. Which probably would have been more interesting.
Regarding Aladdin and Jasmine's first meeting: the fact that Jasmine goes along with his plan so quickly and is so good at hoodwinking the merchant shows brilliantly how compatible Jasmine and Aladdin are, despite their wildly different backgrounds. They just *get* each other. Jasmine is daring and a quick thinker just like Aladdin is, and it's further reinforced in the scene where she pretends to seduce Jafar to distract him. Both Aladdin and Jasmine are slightly different characters in the remake, so I understand why some things were changed/cut, but I don't think there were many scenes showing the unique and instant synergy their animated counterparts had.
Aladdin: “All this for a loaf of bread?”
Thanos: “All this for a drop of blood?”
Opposite sides of the same coin, yet completely different
"All this for a loaf of blood?"
"All this for a drop of bread?"
Haha, conspiracy theory: Thanos is actually Aladdin!
Balanced as all things should be
The two orphans is Al's save the cat scene, and I loved everything about the original's context and emotion, we learn everything about Al in that moment in animation. No dialogue needed. The orphans never really talk. And the new one just expects you to remember the original Al's reason for doing this.
Exactly!
@@CenterRow it's ironic they also took Simba's save the cat scene away in Lion King.
@@SharpDesign phhhtttt lol I didn't think about it that way
oml you talking about cartoon Aladdin lowkey reminded me why I was so attracted to him when I was younger. Man's hot AND a good guy ugh
He stole a loaf of bread almost paying for it with his life because he was hungry, and then he gave his half to a pair of starving children... That is pretty impressive
The people behind this live action remakes must have a giant sign in their studio that says "lets do the same but boring"
Haha exactly
imo that sign is in every live action remake thus far. =/
More people prefer everyday life to movies. That's why they make boring movies. They make more money.
Agreed. I was so excited for the live action beauty and the beast and was just so bored watching it. I would have been happy with a word for word remake more than what we got.
And the cinematography is boring, drab and flat
The higher ups at Disney need to get this through their thick heads, I'm not paying 1 cent to watch an inferior live action version of an animated classic movie like Aladdin, I already got burned once with the Jungle Book.
Sadly a lot of people are willing to
This is a funny comment 😂 you’re not gonna pay well you appear to be in the minority as the majority of the movies make over a billion dollars?
Dan Baldwick jungle Book is the best one...
I really liked Jungle Book 2016.
Twice, actually. There were two live action Jungle Books.
I don't watch the live action versions since Beauty and the Beast dumped all over my memories. Emma Watson's flat acting and auto tuned singing was painful to experience. Never again
A wise decision
Don't forget her apparently inventing the washing machine. I never sat down and watched it, but my little sister watched it over and over on Netflix and hates the original and it saddens me.
@@compassrose1466 My god, the indoctrination has begun. That is sad.
Emma Watson is a God. Don't you dare disrespect her or our lizard overlords
Dude, the entire rewrite of the beast from sweet but grumpy guy to outright pretentious asshole was what made hate that movie
I really enjoy your content. I wish it was a bit longer because I enjoy listening to what you have to say. Keep up the hard work
Thanks! I like making longer videos, but sometimes I just don't have a ton to say haha
@@CenterRow I too would love some longer videos á la Lindsay Ellis, but at the same time I admire you for keeping the videos as long or short as you want them to be. Stay true to your style, you're doing great! :^)
@@elleboman8465 Thanks! Honestly I do need to make longer ones, that's what the algorithm likes haha
@@CenterRow "It puts the filler in the vid, or else it gets the demonetization again"
You know what I constantly keep asking myself about the remakes? What happened to the amazing writers of the Cinderella remake? It was the same fairytale but unique and AMAZING and with a few references to to the animated film, where as the ones now are almost exactly like the original with a few new bits.
Honestly, I think it's exactly what you said. They adapted the fairytale, not their own movie. The subsequent remakes have adapted their own movie, so they're unlikely to want to stray too far
i havent seen the new Aladdin but something about it makes it feel super cheap and i still dont know how
It just kinda looks cheap, there's no real flair to it
Center Row which is fucking weird considering it’s directed by Guy Ritchie!
It’s a great movie, I just wouldn’t compare it scene by scene with the original and look for reasons to hate it. Musics great and the choreography’s pretty good too. It is for a slightly more mature audience as well.
I never saw live Aladdin, but I got the same vibe from live Beauty and the Beast. I realized a big part of it is that the sets *look* like sets. They don't feel like real locations. It really threw me off.
I personally don't like the color scheme... never saw the movie but by the trailer I saw too many PINK buildings and the wardrobe looks more costume than real in my opinion
Every commentary video I watch about disney remakes always say this: "it's like you MUST have watched the original to understand this character/scene/context". The fact that this is the case for every disney remake is really really bad. If you do a remake usually it's to improve or refresh the story. Not be completely reliant on the old story. The only exception to this is with the new spiderman movies and that's bc the origin story has been done to death that we don't actually need to see it anymore. Not to mention they sort of revamped it by making iron men the new uncle ben. So it works. With these disney remakes it DOESN'T WORK because they're dependent on you already knowing the story!! It's lazy and awful
Exactly! I'm hoping that Mulan might be a little different.
@@CenterRow I'm a bit more hopeful for mulan because from what has been said so far it's an actual revamp and not just copy paste from the cartoon. They've removed lots of things from the original so it should be interesting... let's hope anyways 😅 unless they just fuck it up like they do with a lot of their movies lately lol
Yeah! What did work was Maleficent because they flipped the story and changed the main character and the movie just turns into an interesting a good movie eventhough it's not accurate which I think is better than staying true to the story but not doing it any justice
@@smobworld they removed Mushu...
"Dishonor on you, Dishonor on your family, Dishonor on your Cow"
so it looks like it will be a Serious, boring, more "accurate to its source" telling.
calling it right now, it wont be fun. no fun allowed.
@@Kittsuera I also doubt there will be fun. It will be 100% serious which is an eeeeeh choice imo but still better than every female so far lol
The line All this for a loaf of bread was actually a reference to les miserables.
Wow, did not know that!
@@CenterRow same here
I always thought that 'all this for a loaf of bread?' was a deliberate nod to les miserables
It works both ways in my opinion.
Honestly I don't know how old Jasmine and Aladdin in the live action version. They seem act older like mid 20's-ish. The animation of Jasmine and Aladdin at least they were teenager.
Probably on purpose to avoid any controversy
I blame the Illuminati
in the original animated film Jasmine is 16 and Aladdin is 18, so i guess that’d be awkward in live action
Jasmine's 15 in the original......... yeesh.
What kills me is that there is already a brilliant live action version of Aladdin that could have easily and beautifully translated to a movie- Aladdin the Broadway musical. It’s way more compelling than the movie and you would think that it would be harder to capture the emotion of the characters in stage and yet...
Great point!
I had the same feeling about the Beauty and the Beast movie. Like, the musical added some really strong, great musical numbers and instead they wrote new songs that did not fit in with the tone of the rest of the original songs at all. I guess because they really wanted a "Best Original Song" nomination? Ugh.
@Lynette Lyon
James Monroe Iglehart... nuff said 🧞♂️
Honestly the same is said to the Chinese version of Mulan it's true to the actual origin
@@kavyasundar7240 I strongly disliked the Aladdin Broadway musical and loved the life action and animated versions. When Aladdin on Broadway massaged Jasmine's shoulders during a whole new world scene I felt so creeped out. There were so many weird directional choices from the play like that, which made no sense to me. The Aladdin live action movie has its flaws but I think it had a lot more charm and heart than the play
I totally felt the same way about the character introductions when I watched the live action, but there was one particular moment that did it for me. That moment when the prince (original)/guard (new) tells him: “You we’re born a street rat. You will for a street rat. And none but your fleas will mourn you.” (Or “no one” or “nothing,” I don’t remember, but you get the point) The emotion of that scene in the original was POWERFUL not because it was a complicated scene, but because there was a pause, and in that pause, we got to FEEL the emotion that Aladdin felt when he heard someone tell him the things he’s trying not to believe about himself. I feel like Aladdin’s introduction didn’t get the weight it deserved at all, but I especially felt cheated out of that scene. So, anyways, thanks for the video!
“You were born a street rat. You’ll die a street rat. And only your flees will mourn you!” I totally agree. That line was so powerful, and it led into the one jump ahead reprise (don’t know what it’s called but it goes “riff raff, street rat, I don’t buy that. If only they’d look closer...” I felt like the power and emotion of that song and scene was so lost by it not following that prince scene. Honestly the worst part of the live action Aladdin for me was the beginning. When I realized they had gotten through 20 minutes of the original movie in five minutes just to make more screen time for Will Smith, Genie’s love (at first sight) story, and the new original scenes that involved jafar not turning into a snake, I knew this movie didn’t stand a chance.
I'm so glad you touched on the introductions, because that was the first thing that stood out to me when I first saw it. Straight away, I was not happy with the rushed introduction of Aladdin and jasmine, call me sappy, but I like romance so I felt that the "chemistry" between Aladdin and princess jasmine was overlooked in the beginning. In the cartoon, it was love at first sight for Aladdin, in the live action, it's a rushed-emotionless chase scene. Love your stuff, I subbed.
Thank you so much!
It's not sappy, the whole movie rides on that romance. It's the protagonist's whole motivation. It's absolutely essential to get the romance right in the very first scene, otherwise the whole movie falls a part
I'm writing a book, scratch that, I'm procrastinating writing a book by watching youtube videos, but oddly enough, this really helped me. It helped simplify what I think I was doing wrong in my own character introductions. That's probably not your point in making this video about a movie, but thanks anyway.
That was totally my hope! I'm so happy I could help in some small way! Shoot me a signed copy when you're done!
When you realize that Disney is only making these remakes so they can recopyright all of their stuff.
Thank you for saying it. These films aren't meant to be good, they're hardly even a money-grab, they exist solely so Disney can retain their strangle-hold on all of this material.
Mokiefraggle when you realize that disney remakes are cash grabs.
Disney: 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
It's the same reason why every Fantastic Four movie is awful.
I don't think so. Disney products are already in the safe range for never entering public domain. These remakes are made because of laziness
one thing i did like about the new aladdin, though, was the way they sort of corrected a few misportrayals of arabs in the original, but otherwise i would say the original is superior.
Why is it that Disney gets these directors who don’t understand what made these movies so beloved?
It may also be that Disney doesn't let directors take any chances with the material.
I know right, every time a new live action trailer comes out I get so sad. They pretty much serve as a reminder to watch the animated movies again lol
Center Row True but it can also be that the directors just aren’t good. I don’t want to be mean, I know that filmmaking is difficult but that’s the feeling that I get sometimes
@@BigBossMan538 In some cases sure, but there are plenty of great directors who have made not great Disney remakes (Jon Favereu directed Ironman, Guy Ritchie made the Sherlock Holmes moves and Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels, Kenneth Branaugh who directed Thor, etc.)
@@aditijadhav1270 have you seen the Mulan trailer? It's going to be nothing like the original. I'm quite excited.
I was really sad when they didn't add in specific funny parts
like in the old one Jafar says he'll marry Jasmine and starts hypnotizing Sultan and he snaps out of it like "you'll marry... but you're so old!" (I know there are more but that's the only one I can think of right now) I feel like those moments really gave the movie character
Honestly, while I mostly just want more 2D animated movies to be made again, if Disney simply HAS to give a movie a live action remake, then a neat one to tackle would be Treasure Planet. Unlike some of the incredibly well known and iconic movies like Aladdin or Lion King, this one isn’t as well known and can actually be really cool in terms of special effects and all when made for live action. Do I think it would be as good as the original? Probably not, but it WOULD bring attention to an underrated movie, and those who like the remake enough may want to see the original because of it. Though I would much rather we just get new stuff, if they simply have to continue their remake streak, I’d rather it be a movie that’s not so well known.
Yaaaaas... though I fear what sort of monstrosity they'll turn Morph into.
Aladdin was one of my favorites among the disney animated movies. I felt the live action remake was entertaining but just not as good as the animated one. I could not figure out why until I watched this video. The remake had potential to be so much better I think with material added to Jasmine's story but the remake version of Jasmine is boring I guess. I wonder what this movie could be with a different director.
I feel any director probably would have been hamstrung by Disney's insistence that it be the same movie as the original.
It really didn't. The greatest potential it had was to be second best.
It did though. Can you imagine if they had gone back to the original story for the inspiration instead of the animated movie? It’d a Damn good story.
"The movie expects you to have seen the animated movie and be familiar with the character before you meet her." Y E S. Literally what I've been thinking / saying since I watched the film. The 2019 movie didn't take adequate time to introduce the characters the way the 1991 version did--the intro felt extremely rushed.
Lately, I feel like even new Disney animated movies lack real tension. I was listening to the music of Hunchback of Notre Dame and IT'S SO GOOD! So dark and twisted really makes you happy to see Frollo come to an end... Now these movies are so tame
FINALLY someone put into words how i felt about the live action- the visuals were great and jasmines song was beautiful, but everything felt so rushed, most of the characters felt so bland, and i just felt uncomfortable with simply settling for it... thank you for this great analysis, really makes it so much clearer to me why it bothered me so immensely
I am surprised you didn't comment on the song jasmine did when Jafar was taking over everything and she had her moment. That was the only thing they did different than the animation and it served no real purpose. The actual song was great but just why? what's the point of going through it and not leading up to it. I was just puzzled
Yeah, that part was...weird. I was trying to stay on topic
the point was to have a song for the Oscar´s best original song category
@@CenterRow The song was good an inspiring, but it felt out of place, and the fact that right after that she immediately gets shut down? Yikes. Don't do a whole empowering song and not follow it up with something great!
not to mention the whole song was about her not remaining "speechless" and unheard and yet while she was singing no one was listening... bc reality was paused for the song
That whole scene just reminded me of Gabriella in HSM 😂😂 it felt so out of place. It even made me think that maybe Vanessa Hudgens could have been a better Jasmine🤷🏽♀️
I enjoyed watching parts of the live action Aladdin, but mostly I was disappointed by it. The whole thing felt so tame and empty; gone was the edge, gone was the danger, and gone was the epic scale. Will Smith was a lot of fun and I like the soundtrack but the directing was so poor.
Couldn't have put it better myself!
@@CenterRow Wow, thank you!
Will still isn't as wonderful as Robin Williams was, seriously, no one could ever do such an amazing job. The remake felt so souless and bland, the colors and the personality are missing. Animation is so over the top that they can convey emotion really well, it's not the same without it. All of the magic is gone. Walt must be rolling in his grave, bless his soul.
@@superedmundo1239 I agree wholeheartedly. The thing I kept thinking of when watching the remake was the stage play - which, ironically, was a lot closer to the spirit of the animated film. The climax especially felt like something that was scripted for Broadway, but was somehow handed over to the film director instead.
Let's not forget that the guy they cast as Jafar is about as menacing as a third-grade math teacher.
All these films are rushed! None of them take that extra moment to let the weight of a scene or a decision sink in, feel the weight of the situation. Pause for one second to see the actors reaction, or absorb their words. LA B and B was awful with this, LA Aladdin just as bad. I can't with these movies
Exactly!
That was really interesting.
"If I was teaching a class on film making.........." oh god I wish you would!!!! because whoever has been teaching this current batch of yo-yo film-makers has done a terrible job.
I think Disney might be controlled by vampires because of the 4 remakes I have seen (and the Star Wars franchise and some characters in the Marvel movies) ; Jungle Book, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and Lion King, the life and soul of the originals have been sucked right out, leaving a withered dusty husk that wisps away, leaving a longing for the originals.
Which I did. I rewatched the original Aladdin and the memories and the feelings of the remake just washed away like a badly built sand castle slowly disintegrates by the sea of forgetfulness , leaving no trace of its existence.
On a side note: I did notice something I never saw before. In the animation, the shop keeper at the start and the genie are the ONLY human characters that have three fingers and a thumb, proving that the shop keeper was the genie. It's these nuances that make a great film magical. What did we get in the remake?, a blatant spoon-fed 'the boat guy is clearly the genie' no discovery, no fan theories, no "10 things you missed' UA-cam video. Just a lazy, couldn't be bothered bit of writing/screenplay.
Lol I like that vampire analogy
I thought this exact thing when I watched the remake. Aladdin is my favorite Disney character and even though the actor looks perfect for the role, the character fell way short thanks to these decisions.
The part where Aladdin sings the one jump ahead reprise "rif raff, street rat, I don't buy that" breaks my heart in the original. To see someone sing to themself is such a personal moment in a musical. It's one of my favorite moments. Then Jafar comes in at the climax and sings another reprise that degrades all of Aladdin's progress through the song. One jump ahead ties the whole movie together. I love Guy Ritchie and didn't hate the live action movie, but it was really missing its heart.
My sister made a good point before I watched it for the first time. She said that in the live action, it was as if they were rushing to introduce Genie. Which after watching it, it definitely does seem that way. They rush through everyone's intro, skip everyone's character development. Then BOOM! There's everyone's favorite character (debatable) Genie. He was the main character. The others were honestly just supporting characters in this one, but Aladdin had the guise of being the main character because of the original.
*Aladdin 1992:*
Al: Finally food! Man I am _STARv_ -
Kids: *Pitiful Puppyeyes while going through the trash*
Al: Oh no... Nooo.... I can't... I don't have enough as it is!
Al: *Hands over bread*
Al: Guess I'll starve.
*Aladdin 2019:*
Al: Great haul today! Time for something sweet!
Kids: *sits there with probably mom*
Al: Oh, neat. Daily charity~ Check!
Al: *Throws bag of dates*
Al: Wonder if the store is still open.
i'll be honest, i loved the remake NOT for the characters, but the actors. the original was charming, as is most Disney animated films, but this remake was charismatic, unlike the others.
The intros basically gave us all we needed to know about the rest of the movie and it’s summed up so well in this video. Aladdin as a character is overall much more likable and charming. While the new Aladdin acts like a common thief who’s a bit more greedy than just starving. He’s more of a con man and harder to get behind as a protagonist. The differences are so loud, in their mannerisms, in their personalities, and even in their voices. When Aladdin gives his iconic line, “Do you trust me?”
Cartoon Aladdin actually sounds like you can trust him. He sounds genuine and sweet while the 2019’s Aladdin...sounds like the kind of guy your dad tells you to stay away from. And not in a cutesy bad boy way but in a stalker, creeper way...
Script writers meeting for Aladdin 2019:
Guy 1: okay guys, how do we build these characters into sincere, engaging, relatable people?
Guy 2: well, we have more time than the animated movie so we could add some more background? Maybe even explore the old ideas for Aladdin's family situation or---
Guy 3: OR we could just bank on the residual feelings that the audience has for the characters and add in another song for soundtrack, a dance scene, and an Iago chase scene!
Guy 1: hmm both ideas are great so we'll do everything guy 3 said and throw in a one line reference to Aladdin's mom. Also, guy 2, you're fired.
I just saw the Aladdin Musical in Germany (“stuttgart”) because of childhood memories and I would say it’s kinda like a half cartoon/half film experience, of course it’s about the Actors and decisions made at this musical but it’s more like the cartoon, they are running away, he does everything for a bit Bread, getting the music done pretty good. I loved it to be honest... Well I love something about it... I don’t love the boring story of the flat lame characters but that another point, I haven’t seen the Alddin Live Action Movie so far but I could say that the „Disney’s Aladdin“ Musical is way better than the Movie. For people who love musicals it’s incredible, expensive, yes, but I would say it is worth it, I will watch the Aladdin Movie soon and see what exactly is the difference and the good/bad stuff for myself
Well now I want to see the musical!
I would be so on board for these Disney remakes if they followed their Broadway counterparts. In every musical scene in this movie ,I kept wondering why they couldn't ad least get The Broadway cast so There would be some good in The movie. (Not saying The actors didn't sound good in The movie,Its Just that they're a bit mediocre when compared to The likes of The original voice actors and The Broadway stars)
This really captures in words how I felt about Aladdin as a character in the remake. I'm not good with describing my emotions, so all I could tell people after I saw the movie was that Aladdin was unlikable and boring. I love Aladdin. He's one of my favorite characters and, to me, the best depiction of a lovable rogue in any media. Then they turned him into just... 'meh'. It was such a shame.
Basically you just nailed it right on the head in a way I couldn't explain, and I really appreciate that and appreciate the time you took going into it. Great video, man.
Thanks, and thanks for watching!
I sincerely thank you for actually showing why while the ideas are there, the execution is very poor. Sure on paper those 2 characters are identical in the beginning, but how they are portrayed through the events of the movie really makes the difference. As you said we saw Aladdin1s daily struggle for food and survival while also showing him having a good heart when he gave his loaf of bread to the orphans and even show us how he actually feels and want from life in One Jump Ahead Reprise scene. It's only a few minutes but establishes the character really well.
We have none of that in the remake. He has no struggles, to him running away from the guards is just fun and he really doesn't seem to really long for anything or even anything under the surface. What you see is what you get and how the movie presents him, he's really just another thief you would see everyday. Kinda baffles me they went that way because with this change, why should we believe that he's a diamond in the rough? In the original him only stealing food and still being good to others showed he's not just some low-life thief as most people would think, while in the remake only clue we get him not just being a low-life thief is when he gave those dates to the kids, but even that felt rushed.
Plus for some reason they decided to give this whole "you are like the villain" arc to him, which in my opinion was really not needed and honestly they couldn't even execute that properly. During the whole second act where we should have noticed the changes in his character and actually greed taking over him, we get nothing but him being an idiot and having next to no charisma. The only time in the 2nd act he admitted liking to be a prince, was when after his date with Jasmine. Are you telling me that Jasmine was the cause of him actually "drink from the cup"? Wow, great message. Love makes you bad. Oh and before anyone telling me that he only wanted to remain a prince for Jasmine... Aladdin never brings her name up during the break up conversation with Genie. IT's Genie who does bring up and Aladdin simply dismiss it by saying he would rather keep lying to her as he thinks this is the new him...
In the original Aladdin did not want power at all. The only reason he wished himself to be a prince was so he can get a chance with Jasmine. Sure he tried to act like any princes, but after some talk with Genie and how Jasmine reacted to that, he quickly reverted to himself. Heck even when the Sultan told him he would be the next ruler, he started to become uneasy and confused, showing that he only did this for love, not to get power. Even when he breaks his promise to Genie, you can tell he's actually feeling bad about it and wish he had another way to do this, but he simply did not believe in himself be able to pull this off alone. The whole 3rd act is about him making up for his mistake and prove not only to others, but to himself that he's actually worth something.
Oh yeah, 3rd act Aladdin. After pulling this "hero is like the villain" trope, there's no actual character change, no actual change of the heart moment for Aladdin on screen. After Jafar steals the lamp, we only get to see normal Aladdin again, basically being reverted back to how he was in the beginning. That's not character growth, that's just the creators throwing away their own subplot, because they still followed the original movie and their Aladdin never had this stupid subplot.
Jasmine is a downgrade imo. Like you said not only we did not get an actual introduction for her (and mind you in that introduction we actually got to know her, what she wants and how she feels in her own life. They even show that through the caged birds scene) but in reality she's all tell, don't show. She keeps talking about how she trained herself to become Sultan, how she has to rule because only she cares about the people of Agrabah (nice disrespect to your father, Jasmine) and how she's being silenced nonstop. Yeah, too bad we get the total opposite of that through the actual events and actions of the story.
Jasmine stealing loaf of bread to kids and doesn't know she has to pay for stuff. Yeah, supposed best option for ruling doesn't know that money is a thing... In the original the reason she did not know about money was due to her being isolated and "locked up" in the palace, not really know much about the outside world. There's not a single excuse for why the supposed booksmart princess doesn't know what money is.
The new have the whole being silenced part: only Jafar doesn't listen to her while everyone else does, including her father, the guards, Dalia and even Aladdin. And the song while it's nice and sang well, it has no real effect on anything since 1, she's not silenced for the most part, 2, she sings that in her head only 3, she gets almost immediately silenced by Jafar after her little speech to Hakim.
And personal complain, but does Jasmine really thinks all she needs for ruling is making people happy? I know Jafar is supposed to be the bad guy, but even he has a bit more sense on actual rling, such as knowing that other kingdoms may not like them and would attack them, therefore having the army prepared and actualy defendign the borders are necessary.
Once again good idea,s but horrible execution. For ho much they say Jasmine just wanted love and did nothing in the original, she was way more active and actually stood up against Jafar numerous times, heck she even seduced him just to help Aladdin out. True bravery and shows that she still loves him.
Let's talk about Genie. Warning: personal bias might come up here. While I understand most people praises Will Smith for making the character his own, I couldn't help but dislike this Genie. None of the things he made me like Genie in the original was in Will Smith Genie. Instead of a sad clown who despite him being mostly treated as a mere tool, still remained kind and helped to people, we got a typical jaded genie. He's dismissive towards Aladdin in the whole second act, to the point he tells him he couldn't be his master and to go back to his room, so he can't ruin his fun at the party. Even his dream to become free that meant a lot to him in the original, in the new he barely cares about it. Instead we get a subplot of him wooing away Dalia, because apparently he fell in love with him at first sight (guess to this Genie how the actual person is in the inside doesn't matter). Not once did I believe that they actually became friends in the live-action, not even in the 3rd act where they tried to show Genie as sad and caring as possible.
"But Zita, he's clearly mroe caring and selfless. Look at how he reacted to Aladdin' when he broke his promise" yeah no. You see, people usually call out bs and get mad, especially if it's about their friends and family. Genie had all the reasons to be mad at Aladdin in the original, as he felt betrayed and once again feeling like he's just being used as a tool. And mind you there Aladdin was still good, just unsure if he can do this without Genie. There's no excuse why Will Smith Genie acts so calmly and tells him how he's friends with him and breaking his heart when not only he showed barely any kindness towards Aladdin (he was mostly berating him, only help to woo Dalia and he mostly boasted his own ego) but Aladdin actually was a big jerk there and should have been called out on his bs properly.
I get that they didn't want to copypase Robin Williams, but was it necessary to change the character entirely? Both Dan Castellaneta and Jim Meskimen could pull of the character well and personally I think Jim Carrey could have been a really great choice for Genie, so why they just made Genie into Will Smith with genie powers, instead of Will Smith actually playing the character? Sorry no offense to Will Smith, but I simply disagree with this choice about Genie.
Lastly the themes. If you paid attention, you can see I mentioned the characters feeling trapped and wanting to get out of their situations, why pretending to be something you are not is wrong and show that they are more than what meets the eye. All these elements show what the themes of the original movie was: being trapped, be yourself and freedom. Simple but important themes even today. Yet the new movie threw all these away just to give space to the new ones such as the villain and hero are alike, Jasmine wanting to become sultan and Genie...well, he's more busy with being in love with a girl he just met a moment ago.
Issue with this desicion is that the new creators forgot that the themes actually what connected the characters in the first place: Jasmine and Aladdin start to fall for the other because both feel trapped, both feel like there's more to them than what society says and both wanting to get out of their current social position. Genie and Aladdin become friends because once again they both feel trapped, both wanting freedom and both can understand that there's more to other than just the surface.
Without these, the characters in the new movie don't feel connected, as all 3 of them wants something else. I not once believed that Jasmine actually loves Aladdin, because the only time she warmed up to him was when he praised and agreed with her being the ruler would be the best. If anything here it feels like Jasmine only marries him, because he would let her do all the ruling stuff without a single word against it. And I already talked about why I never believed Genie and Aladdin became friends here.
In short, my issue with the movie is that it took away stuff from the original that were actually important, adding new stuff that they couldn't be bothered to actually execute it properly (Genie romance subplot, the whole Jasmine want to be ruler and Aladdin's changing into bad guy stuff), adding new plotholes in thanks to all the removing and adding changes and giving us characters that on paper may be just like the originals, but in execution they are just shadows of their formel selves. I feel like the people who say this is as good as the original or even say it's better are a bit blinded by nostalgia or simply never actually looked at it beyond surface level. Aladdin is a very dear movie to me and it saddens me to see how the new creators butchered so many elements of it and riding on nostlagia, while claiming they "fixed" the original's issues...
Anyway, that's all from me. Sorry for it getting this long and writing this comment this way. Had to split it into 3 parts to actually save my original comment.
Dang, I should have just let you write the video essay! Totally agree!
When I first saw the original scene when Aladdin gives the kids some bread I thought he was going to adopt them and they would be a happy family and I really wanted it to happen
I though wrong
New au headcanon that he nd Jasmine adopts them towards the end of the original
Already knew this movie was going to be great when you said that you hated the live action Aladdin. Completely agree!
Haha thanks!
Does anyone else despise the way they represented Lago the parrot in the live action?
I thought his name was Iago, like from Othello
It is and yes.
Granted I only watching the scene without sound but that bit with Jasmine and the two boys looks off. In the original Jasmine sees a small child reaching for an apple and didn't understand that payment was necessary, it just looks like the kid couldn't reach. There doesn't seem to be that kind of a misunderstanding in the 2019 version.
It would be interesting if you did a little series comparing the original Aladdin to the live action remake. I was so distracted thinking about the original that I forgave a lot of the poor decisions in the live action. I was generally bored and uninterested during the live action and this articulated why. Would love to see more like this. Love your channel, you deserve more views/subs.
Thank you! Maybe I will if this video does well!
Jackie Chan does slap stick well, its possible
@@Countmacula666 I know its possible... but clearly they lacked the imagination to make it work
I watched the live action remake on a field trip with my entire grade, and you have no idea how talkative the theater was. Do you know why?
*because nobody really found it that interesting or tense*
Note: I feel really bad for Will Smith, I think he did a good job as being a genie, he delivered the lines and did a good job acting. It’s only really the script and the rest of the movie that dulled down his character.
The problem with remakes is that they're trying to one-up something people consider in their minds to be *perfection.* You can't. Even if it's not perfect, it's perfect to the fans.
Also, requiring someone to watch the animated version to understand character motivations is a big no-no. It only shows how glaringly obvious your film's dependence on that original animation is and makes it look like a cheap knockoff by comparison, no matter how good it may be in other aspects.
I agree! One jump is such an amazing introductory scene so I was very excited to see the live action’s take on it. The thing is that it wasn’t that bad but it surely didn’t have the same impact as the original movie did.
I still love how the remake looks, just the detail in the costumes and backgrounds is so good, and way more culturally and historically accurate
I definitely found no fault in the production design!
Center Row yet you’re criticizing how it was visually unappealing
Yeah I didn’t enjoy how they rearranged some scenes and changed some iconic lines. It didn’t seem to serve a purpose and was almost done just to be slightly different from the original film.
I feel like they felt like they could economize on time.
Just watched the new Aladdin for the first time yesterday, and I couldn't wrap my head around how it was so much longer when it felt so dang rushed.
Seriously though, why the hurry?
That last sentence hit home hard. I had many movies where i couldn't explain why i didn't care about the story. Your statement about the main character got that spot-on. Thanks for the incredibly insightful video!
The toys that made us series on Netflix makes a really good point in the first episode that totally applies to what Disney is doing. We will probably never get any new or original ideas ever again because it is much harder and much more expensive to create and build a new idea up for mass marketing than it is to rebrand and remake an old idea that is known and loved.
I think I’ve pinned down my problem with the live action Aladdin- it isn’t memorable.
The animation brought such great flair to this film- it still is my favourite Disney film- and all that is lost with the live action.
I think that problem especially shows in the musical numbers. Granted, it’s not the jungle books ‘Bear Necessities’ being half mumbled for maybe a quarter of a scene, but it still doesn’t have any of what made the originals great.
Jasmine showed up, stole the bread. I went neat, okay, that’s Jasmine. She got her bracelet stolen, ran, and I forgot what she looked like or who she was supposed to be.
Aladdin is better in that regard- mostly because he has a goddamn monkey hanging off of him- I’m fairly certain if Abu wasn’t there I’d forget him too.
And that’s to say nothing of the Genie...
My mine problem with the introduction that it can be interpreted as he stole a bracelet out of spite then gave to a random kid
Everything about his character shows that he doesn´t need to steal for a living. I mean, look at his clothes, all new and clean. Does it reflect a person who steals because he is hungry, or because he is good at it?
@@vilwarin5635 The second choice of course. I agree, in the original Aladdin didn't have much, heck! He didn't even have a SHIRT!
@@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 To be fair, in the desert climate of Agrabah he probably didn´t need one. But still, in the original, you see the patches on his trousers, his vest also looks worn out. In the LA, he is so crisp and clean.
@@veronikamajerova4564 the LA?
@@wowanothercookie live action
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this whole “reboot/remake culture” going on in the film industry (or maybe it’s really more accurate to specify Hollywood rather than indie films). This is the first video I’ve ever seen of yours and I loved it! Subscribed and looking forward to more
Thanks! I have a slightly older video called The Problem With Nostalgia Filmmaking that kinda covers that subject.
Hell even Aladdin’s introduction in Twisted was better than the live action
Twisted is an underrated masterpiece.
No one:
Literally no one:
Center Row: He almost DIEIEIEIES!
The reason why the Aladdin 2019 introduction didn't connect with people was because they portrayed him as a theif instead of a street rat. In movie we see him living a decent lifestyle with nice clothes similar to everyone else and an apartment with teas and a gituar. We don't see him struggle with anything and seems to be doing fine on his own, so when he gives the children the dates it feels like he's giving away scraps that he didn't want, also they only mention once that he's a street rat only in song but they refer to him numerous times as a theif. How are we supposed to feel simpify for this character only when they sing it to us, a perfect example of show don't tell.
I was so incredibly confused when I watched the remake of Aladdin because I had never seen the original. I knew there was a guy named Aladdin and a girl named Jasmine, but that was ALL I knew about it, so those few opening scenes were extremely confusing for me. It took me a while to recognize that the girl in white was Jasmine, and then once I did, I was confused as to why she immediately just stuck with Aladdin and had a bit of a crush on him. The ONLY endearing part about him was his good looks, everything else was a bit disturbing (he was obviously a thief, wouldn’t give her back her bracelet even though he was a “good guy”, seemed to have too good of a good reputation with all the ladies of the town, etc.)
Now that you’ve explained it, it makes sense why I was so confused and why I didn’t like Aladdin, they took out all the parts that make you root for him!
Oh wow, it's cool to hear the perspective of someone going in blind!
When i saw this movie I literally thought the version I had was missing a scene because Jasmine appeared so abruptly. It felt like they expected you to have already seen the original so you know who she is and what she wants.
I enjoyed the remake specifically for naomi Scott. She carried the entire movie.
I only saw the animated one when i was very small and didn't remember a thing. I thought the live action was very good-- not a mind-blowing work of art, but a solid movie with excellent actors. The sets were beautiful. Some people have legitimate points about why the first was better but I think a lot of yall's opinions are warped by sentimentality
No live remake has been able to tell the story better than the animated Disney movie. Aladdin's live version happens at slower pace and loses excitement. You made a very good comparison.
Thank you so much for this video! I also learned a lot from this movie on how to do character introductions. I was actually surprised with how much I found Aladdin unlikable in the remake when he was such a joy in the original.
as a kid I loved Aladdin the movie AND watched the official cartoon series everyday, wasn't going into theater with much expectations, but I actually liked it contrary to the travesty that lion king was...
I don’t boycott or hate these movies because I really couldn’t care less. It’s just something that when I want to watch a movie in theaters with my friends I can go “oh yeah I could sit through that 2 hours, and be entertained”
DaVinci 3 Fr, people have to stop being so nit picky and just appreciate entertainment. Aladdin, Lion King, and The Jungle Book are all entertaining movies whether live action or animated. You shouldn’t care if one tiny scene is slightly different from your perfect picture you have in your mind.
@@editsdump1284 I just don't see the point in paying for a movie that is a shot for shot remake of a movie that I not only own a Blu-Ray of, but I know won't be as memorable or as great as the original. Even the few Disney remakes I've liked like Jungle Book (which is the only Disney remake where I haven't seen the original) i only watch once and have no desire to see again. If I want to be entertained I'd rather just watch something original or just watch the original movies.
@@editsdump1284 But people who don't like these movies aren't but just being nitpicky, at least the reasonable ones aren't. I for one, don't like any of these remakes and never have, going all the way back to the 101 Dalmatian days. Being an animation fan and student, I don't wanna see the movie again but worse looking(at least for me personally). And as a film fan who only casually understands a little of the bts politics and process of how these movies get made, I can't find anything appealing or entertaining that would make me want to actively or even casually watch these movies more than once, if at all. For a person who is more critical of film or who has more specific tastes than just "i just wanna be entertained by something", it's hard to justify going out of your way to watch these, especially when the og films are available, are more guaranteed to be liked by you and friends, and are much shorter (the fact that all movies feel the need to be over 2 hours doesn't help the remakes either). Not to disparage you or the op for enjoying them, you're well within your right to do so, but I think it's a bit unfair and thoughtless to just say people should suck it up and be quiet about them just bc you like them. Just a pov from a non-fan.
@@editsdump1284 if a movie's bad, a movie is bad. It's not really nitpicky, it's genuine criticism. I personally couldn't just sit down and be entertained seeing this movie because it was so poorly done as a film, not just a remake. Some people are more critical consumers of media and don't just idly watch things; it doesnt make us bad or negative people and personally, it makes really well done movies that I enjoy feel even more exciting and enjoyable. It's completely fine to be a less critical viewer, but don't get upset or offended when people dislike a movie you like.
Aladdin is my favorite Disney movie. It’s so good
i come back to this video all the time, amazing stuff
Iirc, "all this for a loaf of bread" was a reference to les miserables, because the singer for Jasmine was most well known for her work as Eponine at the time. Although, searching this now I cannot find a good source for it, but I can confirm that Lea Salonga did play both Eponine and Fantine.
Either way, great video. I was surprised when my coworkers really loved this movie and even more baffled when I saw it myself. I mean, the movie had entire scenes that accomplished nothing. I'm no filmmaker, but I really feel like that's a basic rule of constructing a film, because I consider it a basic rule of books, which I'm more familiar with: every scene should accomplish something, whether it furthers the plot or establishes something about the character.
The introduction of Aladdin really threw me off as well. He came off as unsympathetic, which is also half the actor's truly atrocious acting and complete lack of charisma and half the fact that he was stealing jewelry. Why would they make that choice?
The problem with these live action version (especially this one) is that they only work if you watched the originals
3 years later, I keep forgetting this odd adaption exists; this is a really good essay putting these two movies side-by-side
When I first saw this (back in December) I sent it to my twin brother who's in LA (I'm in Sweden) because he's studying filmography over there (if I remember correctly he wants to like direct, create and edit movies one day) and I thought there were a lot of good points in this movie, and things you should think about when making a movie. But after sending it I thought that they must've covered that topic already, but nonetheless he was really grateful for the clip. So a great job to you for creating this video, and for making me also think about these kind of things when watching other movies 😄
I actually quit watching the movie when Aladdin and the genie were in the room being introduced and the scene is beyond awkward. My problem with it was two fold, first because we don't get the story he spins to save Jasmine all we know about him is that he is a pickpocket.
In the animated movie (plus some of the original source material, but that's a lot darker so not as important), it is established that he is a bit of a con artist, important to help make his survival despite living on the streets this way more believable. That fact, would mean he would not be nearly as awkward lying to officials, we could assume he's had to lie his way out of trouble and he's not done anything wrong this time.
Sure he's a little awkward, I mean he really likes this girl and wants to make a good impression, but while in both he thinks of the wrong things that would impress her, his delivery is beyond painful in the live action. I didn't feel like the Genie derived to be freed (he was belittling, and does little to win us over in his introduction either), I didn't have attachment to Aladdin he just seemed like an okay person not a "diamond in the rough", and The king wasn't as... eccentric which I think really sold his blind trust of Jaffar better.
*How to cast live-action Jafar:* Pick the skinniest, scummiest looking guy you can possibly get; and he MUST have a deep raspy voice.
*How NOT to cast live-action Jafar:* Pick a baby-faced dude with a higher voice than Jasmine, who can't even SPELL the word menace.
Please make more videos about Aladdin vs the Aladdin remake! It's interesting to see the difference in choices side by side.
Exactly what I’ve been saying since May and exactly where I always go to when talking about Disney animated movies
I almost wonder if they defocused his hunger because someone didn't want to show that some criminals commit crimes out of desperation. All criminals are obviously just deviants and not pushed into a corner due to poverty. Therefore we need to come up with some convoluted reason he both wasn't having a hard time and yet still isn't a deviant for stealing.
Hmm, maybe
Can you factor Twisted (the musical) into this?
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You explained what I couldn’t describe I knew that it was a little off watching the movie but I couldn’t articulate how, brilliant video!
Great stuff! Well done :)
I felt Aladdin 2019 was two different movies. A musical is what the studio wanted and a Guy Ritchie interpretation of the film. I love the music from the 1992 film. What I enjoy about the live action is the layers of MidEastern instrumentation, which brings a richness to it. As a musical, the numbers were flat and one dimensional. Even Prince Ali was hyped to be this BIG scene and it wasn't. Maybe Guy Ritchie is used to grittier films and signature stylings (I don't think I've seen a Ritchie film) but it didn't work here. I think if Ritchie could have not made it into a musical, maybe it would be different? Its hard to say, as a whole. I feel its either one or the other and not both.
Mulan looks interesting . They actually changed the story.
Im hopeful!
You hit the nail on the head - that is exactly right! I actually did like this one (hated beauty and the beast and didn't bother to watch the lion king), it was entertaining enough and I never expected it to be as good as the original. I do have high hopes for Mulan, just because it seems like it *is* going to be different, more a reimagination of the tale and less a remake of the movie - it's why I liked Cinderella, I think. I mean, if it's going to be the same movie, I'll just rewatch the animated one and save myself a few bucks?!?!!
Really hoping Mulan will be the game changer
This was great !
Hmm I actually liked it but everyone has their own opinion so I’m gonna respect your opinion
The worst part of the live action is that Aladdin had on a shirt
Jasmine Forcer lmaooo that killed me 😂😂😂
One of my main problems with the Aladdin remake is that they said that Jasmine now has a goal. And when I saw that, I thought "How did Jasmine not have a goal in the original?" Her goal was literally to leave the palace and live her life, even if it was just for one day. But for some reason in this they made it that she actually wants to rule Agrabah but do so independently. So I don't know if Disney did this to look 'wOkE', but when you look at what they did to Belle in that remake, it wouldn't surprise me.