Thanks Rex. We weren’t nervous about the show, more that the production would work. I was worried we wouldn’t be able to capture the show well enough for everyone on UA-cam. But the result was fantastic, that’s totally due to Red Bull.
42:55 I have to agree with Chris. I don't do that many km's, but the fact that my aero bike looks so good has probably gotten me out the door at least five extra times a year :D
To add on the Blackbirds, I’ve switched to them from using Corsa’s for years, the trade off in watts is worth it for the wet grip, puncture protection and they don’t delaminate and get binned after 3 months of use!! Fine for the pro’s I guess who don’t pay for their kit and can replace at will.
Was in this store last November, the staff were SO awesome letting me try their OWN bikes to help me find the right size Tarmac SL8. Was glad to see Nero hosted here, good show guys!
I never miss a podcast - never will. My favourite drive home of the week is listening to these guys. Only commentator closer to my heart is Durian but I digress. Biggest cycling event on the Australian calendar - you travel down there - live audience and it is 50 minutes of groundhog day content you could have done at home. Last 10 minutes with the actual talk of cycling, racing etc, sponsors etc is where it is for me. Worth the wait but tedious waiting. What would the content be if you went to the first week of the TDF >?
I've been ridding SRAM for years and never have issues with front shifting. Granted, SRAM is more finicky about setup, but when setup properly it works perfectly. I haven't had a chain drop in years. Well, except for when my wife knocked my bike over and knocked the derailleur slightly out of alignment.
@@DaveCM Ditto, I wonder how many people with that opinion have ever ridden SRAM. Not saying @goodoleme hasn’t but I’m sure the majority haven’t. I rented a brand new Colnago C68 and the chain dropped whilst riding with Di2
@@JimmyJamesLDN I haven't ridden new SRAM stuff, but historically, SRAM hasn't been able to make a front derailleur to shift since New Success. Both my otherwise Red 10sp bikes had Dura Ace front derailleurs. Once things went 11sp, I went back to Shimano
@@DaveCM it's slow af! I rode an Aethos Expert on Mallorca last year, rented from the Specialized shop, I was the second rider to ride it. This was a 6.000€ bike and the SRAM front derailleur shifted slower than my GRX 810 😅 on a road bike!!! Sure, I've never dropped the chain, but going from the big-ring to the small felt awful and even the head mechanic told me that he prefers Shimano. Can't argue with that, the guy has to maintain over 40 top-end bikes, he knows what he's talking about.
@@pl4free LOL! I can't argue a lot with that. The front shifting is slower than Di2. I've thought it was slower than mechanical too, but it really isn't. I think it seems that way since you are doing more work with the mechanical. But, I never made a claim about shifting speed. I simply stated that when setup properly, it is reliable.
So from my listening post a long way away in the States, I think it was pure class for a rider to let a teammate get the win. And they're all towing and drafting each other anyway, reasonable for them to decide between themselves who gets to cross the line first. Just my take, tho' I can understand the me-first approach, too.
Cracking show lads! Not sold on Red Bull as a sponsor though - that sh*t is poison.
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As usual, interesting, clever, no-fluff and technically nailed session from Chris and Jessie. Please consider more NERO Show live sessions for the future. I am sure there are bicycle shops, cafes and even councils across Sydney that will be interested in hosting live sessions of the NERO Show. And SPOKEN show at Carriageworks, Sydney from 22-25 June 2025.
58:56 One concern of riding road tire on gravel bike is BB drop. Gravel bikes are designed to run wider tire thus higher tire height as well. So it usually has bigger BB drop. However if you equip shorter crank and relatively wide road tire, it may cancel out. Maybe it's more aero on the straight flat terrain too.
Not watched yet, but good on ya for doing the podcast live! It only just occurred to me that it's one thing chatting away at home between the two of you, but a different kettle of fish with an audience. I'd be too chicken, so well done!
If you think Conti's feel good you need to get on Corsa's. I ride Conti's because they're fast, grippy and pretty puncture resistant. But Corsa's feel AMAZING.
We need a what would be your stacked privateer bike segment, no cash limit, but still replacable (no custom stuff), every detail down! Chain guides? Ceramic bearings? Silca speed shield and silca speed balance??? You get the jist of it! Go at it boys PS: each time something new comes out that would replace any previous part you update it!
Great show gents and glad I was there. I asked the question on bringing road wheels and gravel bike. I have Dura Ace 9200 on my road bike with an 11-34 cassette. My gravel setup is 12 speed mechanical GRX. 32-48 on the front. I just popped a bigger rotor on the rear wheel for travel and it was an easy swap between rides. 48/11 is still good for about 60kph at just over 100rpm cadence. Having the small ring on the front made for some easy riding up the climbs on the road, and with the 11-36 on the gravel wheel the first climb of RADL GRVL (which I think hits up to 20% at one point) was fine. Handling and wider bars were not as good as my road bike, but comfort over the Adelaide roads was great and hill climbing was comparable. Cheers Alan (not Alec) 😂
How is there no mention or pick of the Factor Ostro Vam? That frame tested top 3 (if not #1) in all of the Aero tests, it is super light, and has a decent set of wheels. On top of that ALL of the actual ride reviews are nothing short of glowing for the bike handling, comfort and speed. The "Masters Privateers" are all over this bike. (I should know, I bought one). The hype is real and this is from someone who spent the last 3 years racing the latest generation Venge, which was arguably the peak of livable Aero bikes. The only part of the Factor that is not God-tier are the wheels and they are mediocre (for internal and external rim width) despite them being very light. You guys should stop sleeping on this bike. Go ride one. You won't regret it.
Jesse is correct on Carbon-Ti chainring.. They are plenty stiff, but you lose a smidge of shifting quality compared to DuraAce. I had extralight chainrings before and those are not stiff at all
I went to an ENVE FRAY from an SL8, Melee, and Madone. I have two set of ENVE 3.4 Wheels - one with 40mm and one with 30mm. 1x 13speed Red XPLR. It’s not quite a melee or SL8, and it’s not quite a MOG - but it’s 99% of both and sooo fun.
When the Colnago Y1rs was first presented, the ones UAE were riding were prototypes, and I’m pretty certain that it is still undergoing refinement. It doesn’t surprise me that it’s not in full production yet or in their early season arsenal. Sorry guys, don’t get your nappies in a bind!
"Doing it all" on the gravel bike with one drivetrain setup is easiest with Shimano DI2 2x12. Run GRX but 50/34 chainset, put a 12 speed 11-34 on the road wheels and an 11-36 on the gravel wheels, and you are pretty much there. If you are changing tubeless tyres then you might as well be changing chainrings. chainsets, rear mechs, cassettes......
Quick note to Chris. Did you know that on your TCR you can flip the wedge on the seat post to take your saddle set back from the standard +15mm to -5mm?
Also I just did on my Propel. thanks. When I first bought it I asked for that as I had seen it in the spec sheet - the dealer told me not possible. 🙄 Actually good to tell people that what you need to do is flip the saddle rail guards, which was not clear to me nor to the dealer apparently. My position is now 100% dialed in. So happy.
I have a Trek Checkpoint with Ultegra 50/34-11/34, I do my gravel rides and racing on this, I've also used it on the road with another set of wheels with the only gearing change at the rear, 11/32, same as my road bikes and I've also raced on the road with this gearing, sometimes in a fast pace group yeah your spinning pretty fast but it's never caused me to be dropped. For long endurance rides with road wheels the Checkpoint is no slower than using my roadbikes.
We did a section with prize giving and some chat around that live, but I removed it from the UA-cam upload, felt it was a bit of a “you had to be there” thing 😂
Am I the only one who misses 53/44 53/46 54/44 chainring combos? On the older 5-arm cranksets it was safr and even possible to do those combos..roubaix combos !
@@petersouthernboy6327 The 10t sucks for drive chain efficiency because the cog is so small. It's also twice as bad because you're cross chaining in both the biggest cog and the smallest.
@@jordanlouis2554 I set mine up where I spend the vast majority of my time on the bike in the middle rings of the cassette. I’m not losing anything noticeable. Plus - it looks sick AF.
@@petersouthernboy6327 trying to spend time in the middle of the cogs just doesn’t make sense for flat races OR hilly races, you’re always making a trade off for gear ratios that have bigger jumps or are cross-chaining all the time. The 10T is actually so bad for drive chain efficiency that track cyclists have moved in the other direction entirely. They’d prefer to use a 60T front chainring and lose the aero gains than lose the efficiency. Tells me about all I need to know. (Also I rode for 4 years as a pro cyclist) +55/56/58 tooth aero chainrings look baller on the road.
The kit colour thing is so interesting. Not as simple as lighter colours will keep you cooler. The thickness of the jersey material will play a much larger part in regards to body temp rather than the colour. Also a bit of evidence to support that darker colours dissipate your body heat better when there's sufficient air flow. Seems like dark is better at faster speeds, whilst light is better when climbing at lower speeds where that air speed drops.
@Jesse for the record - the Hutchison tires are far more comparable as an everyday race tire to the Corsa Pros at only a 2w deficit (not the Corsa Pro Speeds you quoted, which are a TT tire)
When sprinting out of the saddle, a depper wheel in the front will be a cda penalty cause of a bigger frontal area. Disavantage getting to the speed of launching but advantage out of the saddle, imo its not completly dumb.
There's no down side to the different geometries on most bikes. The fore and aft is plenty adjustable. The things brands need to start doing is providing custom builds with stems, seat posts, handle bars, ect. If a consumer wants a more relaxed position give him more set back on the seat post and shorter reach bars and stem
1. Jesse says why run tubes? Tubeless if you get a flat, the sealant fixes itself. 2 minutes later, Jesse says, don't run the Vittoria tyres as the Conti's have more puncture protection. If Tubeless fixes itself, wouldn't you run the thinner faster tyre? (or are the Vittoria's tube tyres?) 2. Durbo got given the win because this is probaly his last year and will go out wearing the national colours like Grace Brown.
nice video. disagree with the conti vs. pirelli comment though. I never thought I'd ride anything but the GPs but due to availability issues at my LBS I picked up the new pirellis. they're just as comparable imo. nice that they're both around now as you can just buy whatever is available when needed. only thing I'd say is the pirellis inflate ~10% larger than stated measurement where contis are fairly/typically bang on. (on my roval clx 2s - so yes, 21mm internal)
Vittoria Corsa Pro SPEED is the one that's 6 watts I believe. The regular Vittoria Corsa Pro's they're running should be a bit slower than those. They are even a little slower than GP5000's. The fastest version of the Vittorias pretty much has 0 puncture protection so would be very risky to run. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
@@Mike0 TT's are actually surprisingly robust. At least they were for the whole summer season I ran them. They don't last super long but while I ran them, I had 2 punctures in 2000 miles which self sealed. I suspect Vittorias are even more TT focused / less protection.
@@8rkThey’re strikingly robust until you’re in a casual group ride 70km from home at 35 degrees. Happened to a friend not once but twice past summer, he got the hate of the whole pack for riding a TT tire on a training ride lol
kit colour does not matter for heat dissipation..this was studied by Jumbo Visma (now Visma LAB) a few years ago in collaboration with a dutch university, before choosing their TdF kit (which was full black)..they discovered that both kit and helmets can be black without any measurable difference in heat dissipation
Ridley is claiming 6 watts better at 50km/h, which is what... 4-5 watts at 40-45km/h? Nowhere near Aeroad or any of the others. It's a bike that LOOKS AERO but goes as fast the Giant Propel for twice the price tag and half the stack height.
The Ridley Falcn RS tested @ 212 watts and was already faster than the old Noah fast. If I recall correctly that compares well to other do it all bikes especially since the tested bike was not in a try hard set up compared to other manufacturers (fat tires plus 40cm handle bar). So Ridley is at least able to make an aerodynamic bike. However, the new Noah Fast bike is very very heavy and even if it tested @ 200 watts I do not think anybody would pick this over a more allroundish aero bike like the Aeroad.
The comparison of regular road tires to the Corsa Speed is kind of misleading. The toilet paper I use for my morning sit down is more robust than a Corsa Speed. I don’t think any of the pros have tried to run the Corsa Speed. The GP 5000TT is probably the lightest tire anyone uses.
50:43 Plapp just bought a lifetime of undisputed, “I’ll bury myself at any moment” service and the price was the jersey. Time will tell if it was a good choice.
Well, so far Pirellis RS have been as good as GPs. With the added benefit of puncture protection and they also feel more grounded in technical descents.
Red Bull may be running 1x to increase shift speed of the RD. When you take the FD out of the system, the shifters don’t need to wait for the potential for both buttons to be clicked, shifting the FD. SRAM 2x has a programmed delay to account for the milliseconds difference it takes for people to hit both buttons and shift the FD. Again, taking it out of the equation removes that delay, making the rear shift noticeably faster.
I'm pretty sure UAE are keeping the Y1RS for the classics and would rather have guys train on the V4RS in the meantime. First because it's just so much simpler to have riders build the foundation of their 2025 fitness on a bike they know well and so they can adapt the fit thanks to their feedback. Second they likely want to keep it aside so other teams don't know about their actual performance until they win a maor race, driving speculations about its performance. Probably why they announced it in december where absolutely nothing happens in the road cycling world. Have people talk about it and speculate but keep the mystery whole.
The amount of gear chat is making these harder and harder to watch.. I feel the earlier episodes had more variety and perspective where as these shows, we can get 47 minutes in and we are discussing bikes and comparisons that 99% of the listenership will never ride
Loved this weeks show, live audience, different location and background, controversial T-shirt, but why did you swap sides? That was too radical for my mind to cope with.
29s weighed 214g . The feel thin to the hand but it's winter here in Norcal and lots of rough road surfaces. I can't complain about the puncture resistance so far. Aero111 for the front, really handles the wind.
Apparently the stiffness of the new Colnago bike sucks and the taller guys don't wanna ride it. Not surprised, much smaller BB area, so keeping enough stiffness is hard.
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This was way less awkward than what I thought it was going to be lol. You guys nailed it!
Can we get an applause for bang on audio quality for this remote setup? I mean I didn’t hear a pop or hiss once. Well done for sure.
Solid job fellas. First live gig. If there were nerves, couldn't see it. Its great to experiment with different formats.
Thanks Rex. We weren’t nervous about the show, more that the production would work. I was worried we wouldn’t be able to capture the show well enough for everyone on UA-cam.
But the result was fantastic, that’s totally due to Red Bull.
42:55 I have to agree with Chris. I don't do that many km's, but the fact that my aero bike looks so good has probably gotten me out the door at least five extra times a year :D
I love that some of the audience is watching your show wearing cycling kit.
To add on the Blackbirds, I’ve switched to them from using Corsa’s for years, the trade off in watts is worth it for the wet grip, puncture protection and they don’t delaminate and get binned after 3 months of use!! Fine for the pro’s I guess who don’t pay for their kit and can replace at will.
Was in this store last November, the staff were SO awesome letting me try their OWN bikes to help me find the right size Tarmac SL8. Was glad to see Nero hosted here, good show guys!
I never miss a podcast - never will. My favourite drive home of the week is listening to these guys. Only commentator closer to my heart is Durian but I digress. Biggest cycling event on the Australian calendar - you travel down there - live audience and it is 50 minutes of groundhog day content you could have done at home. Last 10 minutes with the actual talk of cycling, racing etc, sponsors etc is where it is for me. Worth the wait but tedious waiting. What would the content be if you went to the first week of the TDF >?
The 1x question on the s-works is easy to answer.... it's because it's SRAM. The front shifts perfectly when it's 1x. lol
I've been ridding SRAM for years and never have issues with front shifting. Granted, SRAM is more finicky about setup, but when setup properly it works perfectly. I haven't had a chain drop in years. Well, except for when my wife knocked my bike over and knocked the derailleur slightly out of alignment.
@@DaveCM Ditto, I wonder how many people with that opinion have ever ridden SRAM. Not saying @goodoleme hasn’t but I’m sure the majority haven’t.
I rented a brand new Colnago C68 and the chain dropped whilst riding with Di2
@@JimmyJamesLDN I haven't ridden new SRAM stuff, but historically, SRAM hasn't been able to make a front derailleur to shift since New Success. Both my otherwise Red 10sp bikes had Dura Ace front derailleurs. Once things went 11sp, I went back to Shimano
@@DaveCM it's slow af! I rode an Aethos Expert on Mallorca last year, rented from the Specialized shop, I was the second rider to ride it. This was a 6.000€ bike and the SRAM front derailleur shifted slower than my GRX 810 😅 on a road bike!!! Sure, I've never dropped the chain, but going from the big-ring to the small felt awful and even the head mechanic told me that he prefers Shimano. Can't argue with that, the guy has to maintain over 40 top-end bikes, he knows what he's talking about.
@@pl4free LOL! I can't argue a lot with that. The front shifting is slower than Di2. I've thought it was slower than mechanical too, but it really isn't. I think it seems that way since you are doing more work with the mechanical. But, I never made a claim about shifting speed. I simply stated that when setup properly, it is reliable.
So from my listening post a long way away in the States, I think it was pure class for a rider to let a teammate get the win. And they're all towing and drafting each other anyway, reasonable for them to decide between themselves who gets to cross the line first. Just my take, tho' I can understand the me-first approach, too.
Cracking show lads! Not sold on Red Bull as a sponsor though - that sh*t is poison.
As usual, interesting, clever, no-fluff and technically nailed session from Chris and Jessie. Please consider more NERO Show live sessions for the future. I am sure there are bicycle shops, cafes and even councils across Sydney that will be interested in hosting live sessions of the NERO Show. And SPOKEN show at Carriageworks, Sydney from 22-25 June 2025.
Thanks for the feedback, we'll definitely look into some more live sessions in the future.
58:56 One concern of riding road tire on gravel bike is BB drop. Gravel bikes are designed to run wider tire thus higher tire height as well. So it usually has bigger BB drop. However if you equip shorter crank and relatively wide road tire, it may cancel out. Maybe it's more aero on the straight flat terrain too.
theres no way you printed nero shirts with a 4th grade grammar mistake. wtf.
“It’s” a good observation 😅
🤣🤣
"Its" kind of embarrassing.
It's expected
You mean like starting a sentence with a capital letter? I'm sorry but it's correct isn't it?😂
My favourite show is slowly but surely growing and I fkn love it
Not watched yet, but good on ya for doing the podcast live! It only just occurred to me that it's one thing chatting away at home between the two of you, but a different kettle of fish with an audience. I'd be too chicken, so well done!
Tack!
Thanks so much Johan ❤️
SRAM with 1x because of the front derailleur chain drop - not just on the inside but also when changing to the big ring.
If you think Conti's feel good you need to get on Corsa's. I ride Conti's because they're fast, grippy and pretty puncture resistant. But Corsa's feel AMAZING.
We need a what would be your stacked privateer bike segment, no cash limit, but still replacable (no custom stuff), every detail down! Chain guides? Ceramic bearings? Silca speed shield and silca speed balance??? You get the jist of it! Go at it boys
PS: each time something new comes out that would replace any previous part you update it!
Great show gents and glad I was there. I asked the question on bringing road wheels and gravel bike. I have Dura Ace 9200 on my road bike with an 11-34 cassette.
My gravel setup is 12 speed mechanical GRX. 32-48 on the front. I just popped a bigger rotor on the rear wheel for travel and it was an easy swap between rides. 48/11 is still good for about 60kph at just over 100rpm cadence.
Having the small ring on the front made for some easy riding up the climbs on the road, and with the 11-36 on the gravel wheel the first climb of RADL GRVL (which I think hits up to 20% at one point) was fine. Handling and wider bars were not as good as my road bike, but comfort over the Adelaide roads was great and hill climbing was comparable.
Cheers Alan (not Alec) 😂
Bianchi bars are mental, that tonal green paint job is wayyy better than the old one
Still an ugly stem that ruins the entire bike
How is there no mention or pick of the Factor Ostro Vam? That frame tested top 3 (if not #1) in all of the Aero tests, it is super light, and has a decent set of wheels. On top of that ALL of the actual ride reviews are nothing short of glowing for the bike handling, comfort and speed. The "Masters Privateers" are all over this bike. (I should know, I bought one). The hype is real and this is from someone who spent the last 3 years racing the latest generation Venge, which was arguably the peak of livable Aero bikes. The only part of the Factor that is not God-tier are the wheels and they are mediocre (for internal and external rim width) despite them being very light. You guys should stop sleeping on this bike. Go ride one. You won't regret it.
Jesse is correct on Carbon-Ti chainring.. They are plenty stiff, but you lose a smidge of shifting quality compared to DuraAce. I had extralight chainrings before and those are not stiff at all
An episode so nice, I watched it twice.
I went to an ENVE FRAY from an SL8, Melee, and Madone. I have two set of ENVE 3.4 Wheels - one with 40mm and one with 30mm. 1x 13speed Red XPLR. It’s not quite a melee or SL8, and it’s not quite a MOG - but it’s 99% of both and sooo fun.
100% on the ProVelo comments.
Back grassroots, allow allcomers (graded) to do the race
Love the new temporary space and new typography for the title of the show.
When the Colnago Y1rs was first presented, the ones UAE were riding were prototypes, and I’m pretty certain that it is still undergoing refinement. It doesn’t surprise me that it’s not in full production yet or in their early season arsenal. Sorry guys, don’t get your nappies in a bind!
Interesting
"Doing it all" on the gravel bike with one drivetrain setup is easiest with Shimano DI2 2x12. Run GRX but 50/34 chainset, put a 12 speed 11-34 on the road wheels and an 11-36 on the gravel wheels, and you are pretty much there. If you are changing tubeless tyres then you might as well be changing chainrings. chainsets, rear mechs, cassettes......
🎉 one of the your best shows ever!
Quick note to Chris. Did you know that on your TCR you can flip the wedge on the seat post to take your saddle set back from the standard +15mm to -5mm?
You can do the same with the Propel.
Also I just did on my Propel. thanks. When I first bought it I asked for that as I had seen it in the spec sheet - the dealer told me not possible. 🙄 Actually good to tell people that what you need to do is flip the saddle rail guards, which was not clear to me nor to the dealer apparently. My position is now 100% dialed in. So happy.
@@pipoann They even mention it on their website, shows you how good many dealerships are...
@@znalniaskas right
I have a TCR and would like to do this. Can I ask how you actually do it? Do you have to remove the front bolt from the seat clamp entirely to flip?
This is awesome guys, congrats!
I have a Trek Checkpoint with Ultegra 50/34-11/34, I do my gravel rides and racing on this, I've also used it on the road with another set of wheels with the only gearing change at the rear, 11/32, same as my road bikes and I've also raced on the road with this gearing, sometimes in a fast pace group yeah your spinning pretty fast but it's never caused me to be dropped. For long endurance rides with road wheels the Checkpoint is no slower than using my roadbikes.
Love the show boys.
Helmets... I think you were talking about POC and meant the Cytal or Procen Air?
Also, the Vittoria teams are running the normal Corsa Pros, not the Speeds.
LaPierre frame design takes reference from GT’s design language of the 90’s in particular mtb’s like the Zaskar.
I'm a little surprised you lads didn't do anything more interactive with your audience. Still, good chat.
We did a section with prize giving and some chat around that live, but I removed it from the UA-cam upload, felt it was a bit of a “you had to be there” thing 😂
Jesse sounded stressed?! Wow, worth to see that 😂😂🤪
Am I the only one who misses 53/44 53/46 54/44 chainring combos? On the older 5-arm cranksets it was safr and even possible to do those combos..roubaix combos !
Get yourself a 50T 1x and call it a day.
@@petersouthernboy6327 The 10t sucks for drive chain efficiency because the cog is so small. It's also twice as bad because you're cross chaining in both the biggest cog and the smallest.
@@jordanlouis2554 I set mine up where I spend the vast majority of my time on the bike in the middle rings of the cassette. I’m not losing anything noticeable. Plus - it looks sick AF.
@@petersouthernboy6327 trying to spend time in the middle of the cogs just doesn’t make sense for flat races OR hilly races, you’re always making a trade off for gear ratios that have bigger jumps or are cross-chaining all the time.
The 10T is actually so bad for drive chain efficiency that track cyclists have moved in the other direction entirely. They’d prefer to use a 60T front chainring and lose the aero gains than lose the efficiency. Tells me about all I need to know. (Also I rode for 4 years as a pro cyclist)
+55/56/58 tooth aero chainrings look baller on the road.
Oh wow, that's a big audience. Couldn't tell, you guys still seemed natural and unfazed. Well done.
The Ridley bike is such a nice looking bike. It looks mean AF.
Another great episode as always boys. Also, I named my tdf ‘24 character Chris Miller, and you just won’t Paris-Roubaix… what a legend 👏
The kit colour thing is so interesting. Not as simple as lighter colours will keep you cooler. The thickness of the jersey material will play a much larger part in regards to body temp rather than the colour. Also a bit of evidence to support that darker colours dissipate your body heat better when there's sufficient air flow. Seems like dark is better at faster speeds, whilst light is better when climbing at lower speeds where that air speed drops.
Disagree
I'm glad to see campy again.
Good Pod boys
@Jesse for the record - the Hutchison tires are far more comparable as an everyday race tire to the Corsa Pros at only a 2w deficit (not the Corsa Pro Speeds you quoted, which are a TT tire)
Artems current videos with the Pros are from the training camps in Calpe and the Costa Blanca mountains. Not Majorca.
In fairness roadcc didn’t say it was a bad bike, just that they didn’t want it to be the future of all road race bikes
When sprinting out of the saddle, a depper wheel in the front will be a cda penalty cause of a bigger frontal area.
Disavantage getting to the speed of launching but advantage out of the saddle, imo its not completly dumb.
There's no down side to the different geometries on most bikes. The fore and aft is plenty adjustable. The things brands need to start doing is providing custom builds with stems, seat posts, handle bars, ect. If a consumer wants a more relaxed position give him more set back on the seat post and shorter reach bars and stem
Well done good show.
This worked so well! Loved it. Great job guys
1. Jesse says why run tubes? Tubeless if you get a flat, the sealant fixes itself. 2 minutes later, Jesse says, don't run the Vittoria tyres as the Conti's have more puncture protection. If Tubeless fixes itself, wouldn't you run the thinner faster tyre? (or are the Vittoria's tube tyres?)
2. Durbo got given the win because this is probaly his last year and will go out wearing the national colours like Grace Brown.
nice video.
disagree with the conti vs. pirelli comment though. I never thought I'd ride anything but the GPs but due to availability issues at my LBS I picked up the new pirellis. they're just as comparable imo. nice that they're both around now as you can just buy whatever is available when needed. only thing I'd say is the pirellis inflate ~10% larger than stated measurement where contis are fairly/typically bang on. (on my roval clx 2s - so yes, 21mm internal)
I was there....well done fellas!
The fucking show is pumping boys
Keep it up
Hay, lapierre rider here I agree with what you're saying about the new xielus. The aircode was better
Vittoria Corsa Pro SPEED is the one that's 6 watts I believe. The regular Vittoria Corsa Pro's they're running should be a bit slower than those. They are even a little slower than GP5000's.
The fastest version of the Vittorias pretty much has 0 puncture protection so would be very risky to run. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
yeah, the speeds are labelled on the box as TT tyres too, like the gp5000 TT tyre they have little protection
@@Mike0 TT's are actually surprisingly robust. At least they were for the whole summer season I ran them. They don't last super long but while I ran them, I had 2 punctures in 2000 miles which self sealed. I suspect Vittorias are even more TT focused / less protection.
@@8rkThey’re strikingly robust until you’re in a casual group ride 70km from home at 35 degrees. Happened to a friend not once but twice past summer, he got the hate of the whole pack for riding a TT tire on a training ride lol
@@tarmaccio no tire is flat proof ofcourse. but i was expecting a lot worse from a “tt” tire ya know?
kit colour does not matter for heat dissipation..this was studied by Jumbo Visma (now Visma LAB) a few years ago in collaboration with a dutch university, before choosing their TdF kit (which was full black)..they discovered that both kit and helmets can be black without any measurable difference in heat dissipation
You know what problem I have with nice chunky 30mm GP5000? My rims look less deep :(
Mads Pedersen (Lidl/Trek) said in a danish interview that he was not impressed by the Pirelli tires he have to use even less in wet conditions ...
Turbo Cotton - 11.1 Watts @ 100 psi.
GP 5000 - 10.7 Watts @ 100 psi.
Both running 100gr butyl tubes.
BOYS we gotta fix that t-shirt. Love ya 🖤
Ridley is claiming 6 watts better at 50km/h, which is what... 4-5 watts at 40-45km/h? Nowhere near Aeroad or any of the others. It's a bike that LOOKS AERO but goes as fast the Giant Propel for twice the price tag and half the stack height.
Good stuff guys!
The Carbon Ti chainrings are stiffer than the standard dura ace chainrings also are about 10 grams lighter.
The Ridley Falcn RS tested @ 212 watts and was already faster than the old Noah fast. If I recall correctly that compares well to other do it all bikes especially since the tested bike was not in a try hard set up compared to other manufacturers (fat tires plus 40cm handle bar). So Ridley is at least able to make an aerodynamic bike. However, the new Noah Fast bike is very very heavy and even if it tested @ 200 watts I do not think anybody would pick this over a more allroundish aero bike like the Aeroad.
gotta get u guys over to vittoria corsa pros...
Jesse is pulling stats out of his personal library, Carbon Ti. Chain rings are heavier than the Dura Ace.
The comparison of regular road tires to the Corsa Speed is kind of misleading. The toilet paper I use for my morning sit down is more robust than a Corsa Speed. I don’t think any of the pros have tried to run the Corsa Speed. The GP 5000TT is probably the lightest tire anyone uses.
has it been talked about that the X-Lab looks just like a Venge?
'It's speed' shirt swing and a miss on the grammar but give me that certified fast/dog of a bike shirt ASAP
@@ultimatistWrong. "Its" is the possessive form.
@@majorx4964 That's what he said. Should say "hold its speed", not "hold it's speed".
@@derfx89 Guy I was replying to was saying the opposite and has deleted his comment. You can tell if you look at who I was replying to.
@@majorx4964 you're right, my bad.
50:43 Plapp just bought a lifetime of undisputed, “I’ll bury myself at any moment” service and the price was the jersey. Time will tell if it was a good choice.
Remember Ridley is to Belgium what SS Torana is to Aussies. Would be great to have our own Aussie brand to support like every other cycling country.
I watched that last night when you accidentally made it public. When I stopped and went back later, it wasprivate again :) Wondered why only 12 views!
Haha, you were one of the lucky few!
Do we think that they will address the spelling mistake in the next episode?
Do it all solution re: Shane Miller is what we've been saying all along. It works if you're starting with the right frame.
Well, so far Pirellis RS have been as good as GPs. With the added benefit of puncture protection and they also feel more grounded in technical descents.
Jesus that Bianchi top tube looks long!
About Plapp, I just think he loves this years kit too much. He wants to wear and own it. (The new maap kit)
One advantage of running a one by sram is slightly faster rear shifting but that can't be it either
New topic that we need discussed : Is chris miller THE ultimate welder ?
Red Bull may be running 1x to increase shift speed of the RD. When you take the FD out of the system, the shifters don’t need to wait for the potential for both buttons to be clicked, shifting the FD. SRAM 2x has a programmed delay to account for the milliseconds difference it takes for people to hit both buttons and shift the FD. Again, taking it out of the equation removes that delay, making the rear shift noticeably faster.
I NEED That shirt! Does it hold its speed. Where do I buy haha
alex dosette is at xds astana
Thanks for letting us know
I wonder why are you always discuss "Corsa Pro Speed" and its properties, but in the b-rolls there's only stock "Corsa Pro" (not "Speed") in sight?
Chris RE: Road Nats - 100%
Dowsett is working for Astana this year.
Sorry Chris there's a typo on your shirt. It should say its, not it's.
I'm pretty sure UAE are keeping the Y1RS for the classics and would rather have guys train on the V4RS in the meantime.
First because it's just so much simpler to have riders build the foundation of their 2025 fitness on a bike they know well and so they can adapt the fit thanks to their feedback.
Second they likely want to keep it aside so other teams don't know about their actual performance until they win a maor race, driving speculations about its performance.
Probably why they announced it in december where absolutely nothing happens in the road cycling world. Have people talk about it and speculate but keep the mystery whole.
Red Bull couldn’t get the boys on an SL8? Water we dune hair
So tadej won worlds for the performance advantage of the white kit 😮
What's going on with Ewan?
The amount of gear chat is making these harder and harder to watch.. I feel the earlier episodes had more variety and perspective where as these shows, we can get 47 minutes in and we are discussing bikes and comparisons that 99% of the listenership will never ride
Loved this weeks show, live audience, different location and background, controversial T-shirt, but why did you swap sides? That was too radical for my mind to cope with.
Chris : try enve race days..
29s weighed 214g . The feel thin to the hand but it's winter here in Norcal and lots of rough road surfaces. I can't complain about the puncture resistance so far. Aero111 for the front, really handles the wind.
Apparently the stiffness of the new Colnago bike sucks and the taller guys don't wanna ride it.
Not surprised, much smaller BB area, so keeping enough stiffness is hard.
peak torque called that out when he interviewed the engineers, your statement makes sense
How do you know that? Genuinely interested.
@@salvadorreyeszuniga6112 Weird internet rumour, but looking at the smaller BB area it does seem plausible.
XLab should be running Cybrei if they are off Shimano. Rub off the SRM logo and go mask off and be proud to run Cybrei.