What do you think of the training pros are currently doing? 🚴♂️ Do you find it as interesting as Dan does, or do you feel there's something to it that takes anything away from the sport? 🤔
Absolutely, anything where you have access beyond that of a regular fan / cyclist is very interesting. This style and those that take retired pro cyclists and use them as guinea pigs for methods and test the outcome are very interesting and possibly useful.
Love it! We amateurs and enthusiasts get an idea of what the pros do for training. Not necessarily to change our way of riding, which targets fun mainly. But it is great to learn, much like watching videos about superbikes, which most do not want to or can’t pay for. Thanks GCN!
Thanks GCN. Fascinating. More focus, more detail, more comparative pressure, longer uninterrupted seasons… Productivity has increased in cycling as it has in all industry across the board. The openness of Jeroen, Jack and Toms was a gift. Thank you all for the cycling and personal insights.
Dan, This content is exactly what most cyclists are looking for since the majority of cyclists can't afford coaches. When I raced 20 years ago my training was based on my coaches guide. Nutrition knowledge was so much different than it is today. I started training again for UCI Gran Fondo races and I am now following the new training style and nutrition and I can say that my power numbers are higher than when I was racing. Of course my recovery is longer due to my age, But I can say that I make gains every week. I encourage everyone that really wants to improve their cycling abilities to learn the newest training system.
I unsubscribed many years ago due to this channel basically becoming an advert platform, but I've been surprised by quite a few videos these last months. Glad to be back!
Love shows like these. Structured training via Zwift changed my life. Losing weight, getting fitter, sleeping well and generally feeling better overall. Keep up the good work
This type of content is really *the* thing GCN needed the last years. Videos for getting people into the sport, explaining the basics or just for entertainment are great and much needed - but this type of content for "nerds" or those who want to start deep diving cycling was missing. Great work!
Definitely would like to see more of this type of content. It’s pretty clear that there is a lot of progress/advance going on which even mere mortals like me can benefit from. Please continue spreading the word to us. Thanks
I guess what would be interesting is how to apply the current professional training methods to an amateur level where you don't have all the resources and maybe cannot be bothered.
Yeah, there has to be a very cool video about the differences between available time and budget. We’ve gotten smaller snippets of that with the distance challenges in the past, but more structure would be bettee
I love these „Dan goes in depth“ type of videos. The topic of muscular fatigue seems a good candidate for a closer look. Low cadence on a 45min alpine climb is surely different from low cadence on the Koppenberg. I would also be interested in Dan doing a typical training day when he was a pro with all the old kit. How did you track your data? I remember Polar watches an infrared interfaces but nothing close to a modern Garmin.
Thanks so much for the support of GCN! Stories from Lloydy at Cervelo? We don’t remember him riding for them! Let’s see if we can get Dan to dust off the storybook!
Would love to get some more of these that really drill down into specific questions . For example how to predict /measure overtraining and optimize recovery so the rider can plan ahead
As a racer and coach who started coaching seriously in the late 1980s and in the early 1990s built the first coaching certification system for the USCF, this is the best GCN educational video I’ve seen. Period. Tremendous!
As a fitness professional, I appreciate this content. I was a swimmer and coach. This science has been used for 40 years in swimming, glad to see it finally being utilized in cycling.
More of this content please. I know the pros train differently but the more we can get exposure to the wealth of the experiences of their coaches the better. What I would love even more is for pro coaches to say how they would approach an AG athlete with only say 12 hours a week. You may find that it’s no longer 80-90% in Z2. It might be more threshold work as a percentage. I don’t know but would be interesting to know what the key workouts are and where the diminishing returns are.
Like others, I unsubscribed a couple of years ago as GCN was just larking about and churning out rubbish content but thankfully you have really upped your game and other than the GCN Tech Clinic where some dubious advice is often given, you are now putting out great quality shows so I've re-subscribed. I would also like to praise your production team for the way the shows are shot, scored and edited, it's top class work. I'd like to see more pro team behind the scenes stuff.
Thanks for this report, this is great information. 👏👏👏 The one comment about pros losing functional strength, even at a young age, hit home for me. As an old masters rider, I have certainly experienced those losses, so late last season I started doing low cadence sprints up the steepest grades I could find. They seem to have helped, as my endurance was better, and I was setting PRs on some of the shorter climbs.
Love the content; clearly the tailored individuality of the training is a major change. As the UAE coach stated, Training Peaks only captured external load but now the focus on what is happening internally to a rider is an absolute game changer than leads to a multi-demntiional and target approach to training that simply did not exist in Dan's era.
This is such high quality. Only thing I can think of to make it even better is talking directly to the absolute best such as Tadej, Jonas, Wout and so on. Maybe even training with them for a few days. I get that thats imposible with those guys. In my mind, there must be a big difference in the sort of training for different types of riders, puncheurs, sprinters, climbers etc.
Yes, more comments like this! I’m particularly interested in everything related to the “process.” Unlike the Performance Process Podcast from the Escape Collective (which I listen to religiously ❤), the video format makes this content easier to follow, especially when it gets fairly technical. Ride On!
Yes, I love this kind of video content. The cycling world is way behind the running-ultra world where the science and coaching methods are readily talk about from videos to podcasts. GCN can lead the way in opening up this info for those of us who care. Thank you!!
That was a great video to listen to while doing something else. Podcast style I’d say. The conversations with professionals and analysis is a great format. Loved it. Good job
Brillant video! Very interesting and so exiting insights from pro riders and coaches. Well done. Please continue with this kind of contend! An episode about recovery methods in pro cycling would be cool!
Great interview Dan - Liked hearing the pros prospective in how the see and feel training has changed for them during their career! I feel training as changed for all sports over the past 20 years with the advancement of collecting data, etc.
I found this fascinating and would love to see more. It does make me wonder about 'the joy' of cycling for the sake of it, but at the end of the day it's there job.
GCN is smokin' it in terms of quality output. Personalities and interests seems optimized with pacing and production. All the presenters are hitting on all cylinders. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
I love this channel’s technical analysis in all areas and really enjoyed this one. I’m an oldie IHPVA member rider. We in the 1970’s started the motivation for aero improvement in bike design. My picture was on the cover of Bike World magazine’s July/August issue with I believe the first aero helmet. You’ve even compared aero recumbents with conventional bikes on past episodes. Improvement in all aspects of cycling are likely reaching their upper limits unless recumbent bikes are allowed at some point. It would be great to see a recumbent class in pro racing to get comparable data over various terrains.
Dan, producers, and leadership, like so many others have stated, this is great content. I'm coached, but most folks aren't and this is useful, what types of training are the pros doing (forget about altitude for most of us). Maybe do same interview with a Pro or Continental-Level team that's winning races? Again, we'll done!
Great video Dan! It is absolutely amazing to me to see how the sport has change after taking a 17 year break from cycling. The interesting comment made in your video is "We are still the same animal, with same physiology." I would like to know how someone might train without all the power meters and technology? Yes I would like to see more of this content.
I love these types of video's. I am not one for knowing what the Tour riders are riding, as there is no way I would pay that for a bike at 56, or really any other age. I like hearing about things I can do to make me a better rider by seeing how the training I am doing is helping/hurting me.
@@gcnit was a well needed reminder indeed lol. Loving the indie GCN renaissance boys. Missing Manon representing for the ladies, but that’s just how things go.
What do you think of the training pros are currently doing? 🚴♂️ Do you find it as interesting as Dan does, or do you feel there's something to it that takes anything away from the sport? 🤔
Gr8 content! Thanks!!!🙏
@@MiguelAugusto1982thanks Miguel!
I think there is an elephant in the room that isn't being discussed ;)
@@willpsychmajor3104 monoxide?
It's called T.U.E.
As per request: These journalistic style pro cycling deep dives are absolute gold!
Absolutely, anything where you have access beyond that of a regular fan / cyclist is very interesting. This style and those that take retired pro cyclists and use them as guinea pigs for methods and test the outcome are very interesting and possibly useful.
Thank you so much for the feedback
Agreed!
Fully agree
Love it! We amateurs and enthusiasts get an idea of what the pros do for training. Not necessarily to change our way of riding, which targets fun mainly. But it is great to learn, much like watching videos about superbikes, which most do not want to or can’t pay for. Thanks GCN!
Lloyd taking GCN to the next level. Bring on these kinds of content!
That’s so kind! We’ll continue to do what we can!
So true. You always have had that plus that made me watch back when Matt was present. Thx
This is gold and exactly the kind of thing that GCN can do expertly that other broadcasters just won’t touch. Thanks so much for putting it together.
Thanks GCN. Fascinating. More focus, more detail, more comparative pressure, longer uninterrupted seasons… Productivity has increased in cycling as it has in all industry across the board. The openness of Jeroen, Jack and Toms was a gift. Thank you all for the cycling and personal insights.
Thanks so much for your feedback.
Dan, This content is exactly what most cyclists are looking for since the majority of cyclists can't afford coaches. When I raced 20 years ago my training was based on my coaches guide. Nutrition knowledge was so much different than it is today. I started training again for UCI Gran Fondo races and I am now following the new training style and nutrition and I can say that my power numbers are higher than when I was racing. Of course my recovery is longer due to my age, But I can say that I make gains every week. I encourage everyone that really wants to improve their cycling abilities to learn the newest training system.
I unsubscribed many years ago due to this channel basically becoming an advert platform, but I've been surprised by quite a few videos these last months. Glad to be back!
Agree 100% 👍🏻
Love shows like these. Structured training via Zwift changed my life. Losing weight, getting fitter, sleeping well and generally feeling better overall. Keep up the good work
I really enjoy this type of content. Something similar with guidance for us decidedly average cyclists who want a good idea how train.
Great to hear! In the future we aim to bring more deep dives into this too!
holy mackerels this is some real high quality video material, kudos dan. Great transparency from everyone especially Jack Haig!
This type of content is really *the* thing GCN needed the last years. Videos for getting people into the sport, explaining the basics or just for entertainment are great and much needed - but this type of content for "nerds" or those who want to start deep diving cycling was missing. Great work!
Yes, please give us more, it's super interesting and informative, thanks!
Hey thanks for the comment. We will do our best to deliver more videos like this in the future. Let us know if you have any video ideas. Thanks!
Definitely would like to see more of this type of content. It’s pretty clear that there is a lot of progress/advance going on which even mere mortals like me can benefit from. Please continue spreading the word to us. Thanks
This is fascinating. Love this type of content.
Thank you!
I guess what would be interesting is how to apply the current professional training methods to an amateur level where you don't have all the resources and maybe cannot be bothered.
You can't, because if you could the pros would be doing it.
@@SuperTwiddler I think what he mean is a more "casual" version of pros training. Like Zwift workouts.
Great idea. Tier it so we can see, 20/10/5 hours.
Yeah, there has to be a very cool video about the differences between available time and budget. We’ve gotten smaller snippets of that with the distance challenges in the past, but more structure would be bettee
Same training lower volume . And enjoy it 🚴☕🚴
Fantastic Dan!!!!!
Best GCN show I have seen in 3 years!
Pure gold
Great episode! Hopefully Dan will use some of these techniques to train for his upcoming charity ride and show us amateurs how to do it!
I love these „Dan goes in depth“ type of videos. The topic of muscular fatigue seems a good candidate for a closer look. Low cadence on a 45min alpine climb is surely different from low cadence on the Koppenberg. I would also be interested in Dan doing a typical training day when he was a pro with all the old kit. How did you track your data? I remember Polar watches an infrared interfaces but nothing close to a modern Garmin.
Dan, would actually love for you to share some old Cervelo stories or break down some of the old races as well!
Thanks so much for the support of GCN! Stories from Lloydy at Cervelo? We don’t remember him riding for them!
Let’s see if we can get Dan to dust off the storybook!
Wasn't it just a test team? as in not even a real team :)
I'm a big fan of these videos! Dan does a great job conducting these interviews and adding explanatory interludes. Chapeau!
Glad you like them! We’ll see what we can do going forward too
Would love to get some more of these that really drill down into specific questions . For example how to predict /measure overtraining and optimize recovery so the rider can plan ahead
These type of videos are some of the most interesting!!
I've been following training trends for a couple of decades so these insights are gold
We’re glad to be of help!
Absolutely golden content. Bring more of it
We will do our best!
One of the best videos you have done in a Long time. This is unique and plays to your strengths - more if this please 👍
Great content and delivery Dan (Thanks to Jeroen, Jack and Tom for participating!) very insightful on the subject.
LOVE this sort of content!
As a racer and coach who started coaching seriously in the late 1980s and in the early 1990s built the first coaching certification system for the USCF, this is the best GCN educational video I’ve seen. Period. Tremendous!
Another brilliant video from Dan, very inciteful and without bias, absolutely taking GCN to new levels, more please.
thank you so much for the feedback! We'll see what we can do!
As a fitness professional, I appreciate this content. I was a swimmer and coach. This science has been used for 40 years in swimming, glad to see it finally being utilized in cycling.
More of this content please. I know the pros train differently but the more we can get exposure to the wealth of the experiences of their coaches the better. What I would love even more is for pro coaches to say how they would approach an AG athlete with only say 12 hours a week. You may find that it’s no longer 80-90% in Z2. It might be more threshold work as a percentage. I don’t know but would be interesting to know what the key workouts are and where the diminishing returns are.
As a aspiring young racer this is my favorite type of content
Some of the best content on UA-cam. Keep it up!
Totally appreciate this kind of stuff! Keep up the good work all around!
Like others, I unsubscribed a couple of years ago as GCN was just larking about and churning out rubbish content but thankfully you have really upped your game and other than the GCN Tech Clinic where some dubious advice is often given, you are now putting out great quality shows so I've re-subscribed. I would also like to praise your production team for the way the shows are shot, scored and edited, it's top class work. I'd like to see more pro team behind the scenes stuff.
Love love love this one Dan. Thanks.
Glad you like it!
Really big fan of this content. More of this please!
Great content! Really enjoy these types of segments!
Thanks for this report, this is great information. 👏👏👏
The one comment about pros losing functional strength, even at a young age, hit home for me. As an old masters rider, I have certainly experienced those losses, so late last season I started doing low cadence sprints up the steepest grades I could find. They seem to have helped, as my endurance was better, and I was setting PRs on some of the shorter climbs.
Fantastic video! GCN has been hitting it every time recently!
Love the content; clearly the tailored individuality of the training is a major change. As the UAE coach stated, Training Peaks only captured external load but now the focus on what is happening internally to a rider is an absolute game changer than leads to a multi-demntiional and target approach to training that simply did not exist in Dan's era.
This is such high quality. Only thing I can think of to make it even better is talking directly to the absolute best such as Tadej, Jonas, Wout and so on. Maybe even training with them for a few days. I get that thats imposible with those guys.
In my mind, there must be a big difference in the sort of training for different types of riders, puncheurs, sprinters, climbers etc.
Yes, more comments like this! I’m particularly interested in everything related to the “process.” Unlike the Performance Process Podcast from the Escape Collective (which I listen to religiously ❤), the video format makes this content easier to follow, especially when it gets fairly technical. Ride On!
I really like this type of content long and detailed, I hope to see more like this in the future
Thank you for the comparing and contrasting, this is just what the world needs now!
Love this type of content! Well done!
These are the good gcn vids!!!
Gold, gold, gold. Well done Dan and GCN.
Yes, I love this kind of video content. The cycling world is way behind the running-ultra world where the science and coaching methods are readily talk about from videos to podcasts. GCN can lead the way in opening up this info for those of us who care. Thank you!!
That was a great video to listen to while doing something else. Podcast style I’d say.
The conversations with professionals and analysis is a great format. Loved it. Good job
Really appreciate this analysis. Please keep it up
Love it! Keep it coming!
This is awesome content. Thank you for putting this together.
Our pleasure! Let us know what other videos you would like to see!
Thanks GCN. This was fascinating!
Amazing program, so clear and informative. You guys are the best
Loved it Dan. More, more, more please. As a self recognised data nerd I love this type of content.
Fantastic and fascinating video. Lots more of this type of content, please.
Great insights, very good content ~ well structured too👍🏽
I have to say this is right up there with my favourite type of content
Please more of this content. Thanks GCN
Brillant video! Very interesting and so exiting insights from pro riders and coaches. Well done. Please continue with this kind of contend!
An episode about recovery methods in pro cycling would be cool!
Great interview Dan - Liked hearing the pros prospective in how the see and feel training has changed for them during their career! I feel training as changed for all sports over the past 20 years with the advancement of collecting data, etc.
Great work again Dan and the team. I love getting into the details. 👍
I found this fascinating and would love to see more. It does make me wonder about 'the joy' of cycling for the sake of it, but at the end of the day it's there job.
This is awesome content DL
Enjoyed this, more please 🙏🏻
GCN is smokin' it in terms of quality output. Personalities and interests seems optimized with pacing and production. All the presenters are hitting on all cylinders. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
Very interesting topic and video. Thank you. Please bring more of this type of content.
Great video! Love it. Thanks. More please 🤝
I love this channel’s technical analysis in all areas and really enjoyed this one. I’m an oldie IHPVA member rider. We in the 1970’s started the motivation for aero improvement in bike design. My picture was on the cover of Bike World magazine’s July/August issue with I believe the first aero helmet. You’ve even compared aero recumbents with conventional bikes on past episodes. Improvement in all aspects of cycling are likely reaching their upper limits unless recumbent bikes are allowed at some point. It would be great to see a recumbent class in pro racing to get comparable data over various terrains.
Only commenting in the hope more content is made like this.
Really enjoyed it.
This is fantastic content and like a longform sports journalism Column brought to life. More please.
Yes please to any training content. Loved this.
I really enjoy this sort of content. Please keep them coming.
Yes Dan - i want to know as much about the training of the pros as possible
Fabulous Video, think one of the best in recent months, more of it please 😊
Love this kind of content.
Enjoyed this content. More of this please. 🙏👍
Great video and an interesting topic. Thanks
Dan, producers, and leadership, like so many others have stated, this is great content. I'm coached, but most folks aren't and this is useful, what types of training are the pros doing (forget about altitude for most of us). Maybe do same interview with a Pro or Continental-Level team that's winning races? Again, we'll done!
Great video Dan! It is absolutely amazing to me to see how the sport has change after taking a 17 year break from cycling. The interesting comment made in your video is "We are still the same animal, with same physiology." I would like to know how someone might train without all the power meters and technology? Yes I would like to see more of this content.
more of these vids please. thank you so much
I love these types of video's. I am not one for knowing what the Tour riders are riding, as there is no way I would pay that for a bike at 56, or really any other age. I like hearing about things I can do to make me a better rider by seeing how the training I am doing is helping/hurting me.
This is EXCELLENT content. More, please.
Love that the training while at the Cervelo test team, Dan and his teammates example was a coffee stop . Lol, pure self deprecating gold lol.
We often forget that Dan was at Cervelo Test Team!
@@gcnit was a well needed reminder indeed lol. Loving the indie GCN renaissance boys. Missing Manon representing for the ladies, but that’s just how things go.
Dan; yes. More of this kind of content, please. Fascinating and well produced content
These videos are among the best GCN make.
I'm a training geek, so I really like this kind of content....
Great content
That is quality content! 👍
This is good content, no whining about pop topics! Let see you put this to work Dan and get some cycling specific fitness content on your progress.
Love this content.
I love this content… thank you!
This was awesome!
Thank you, very helpful
Super content - Thank you
This was indeed a really interesting video!
Excellent and informative discussion.
Is a really interesting insight on some of the differences being amateur and professional
Really like this video!