I think you guys hit the nail on the head here with your explanation. I'm getting tired of hearing people saying the pike deaths didn't have many big A listers but you can have a more impactful scene that's is even better than the comic choices and honestly I think it was more emotionally devastating. Even just seeing Rodney and Addy being basically kids being murdered like that is brutal and how people like the higwaymen risked their lives when they didn't even need to and then seeing Tammy die after just receiving a child with Earl and seeing many relationships break with Alden, Carol, Ezekiel and Lydia being affected was also brutal! They picked great choices to drive the story forward and it worked better than the comics!
I’m surprised more people weren’t upset about Tara. Tara hit me the hardest. She was one of my favorites. Since season 4 she was always funny & her friendship with Glenn was touching. I cried over Tara. It was a big shock for me.
Remember the marks on Lydia's arms? Alpha was having Beta whip her so the pain, or enduring the pain, would make her stronger, just as Alpha would whip Lydia's arms to make Lydia stronger.
@@melissakessler4323 Exactly. It's all about territory. They probably also have paths of migration and hunting/gathering spots. By now they probably have it all down to a t.
This is the happiest Daryl has at least "looked" since Jenner's lab at dinner, and also the most Norman Reedus-y Daryl has ever looked on the show lol.
Also Alpha and the Whisperers went down south before the storm. She told Ezekiel the winter will be harsh and like wild animals living in the forest they migrate south to avoid the winter. That's why the scene with Alpha we can see good weather and then in Alexandria a storm. @Blind Wave
@@McLoviniam that's not the point, it would make Alden feel like an outsider since he did the same with Lydia and remind him of who he was before, and then to think twice about being a smartass.
Kang era Daryl They throw away former grudges once they’re accepted into the group. Things would be chaotic if they didn’t. It’s all about helping eachother survive.
@@tiffanicasteel8573 it's not simple unless you ignore the implications it would have. You see it as a simple reminder, but ignore the fact that hes been apart of the group for years now and had his gf killed by this random chicks mom, and lydia literally just joined less than a year ago. Only niave/stupid people would trust a person who doesnt seem to be very stable, and is known to lie out her ASSS
Daryl didn't accept Lydia just because of Henry. The moment Daryl realized that Lydia was abused, he was on her side. His first priority was the communities, so he had to turn her over to Alpha to negotiate some kind of peace, but I have no doubt in my mind that he empathized with her. Abused children are programmed to blame themselves when something goes wrong. Lydia could easily turn out to be a shadow Daryl, but I get the feeling that Daryl isn't going to allow that to happen. The snow fight at the end was for all the children, but it was also for Lydia to experience happiness. JMO, of course. :-) ♡
And Carol leaving Ezekial makes sense to me. I never liked the way that Carol had to "pretend" to be something that we all she wasn't, simply because that's the way Ezekial wanted to raise Henry. It almost felt like the "cookie - baking housewife" Carol says she had to perform for her neighbors when she was with Ed. No, she wasn't abused by Ezekial, but she still had to pretend to be someone she wasn't. I like Ezekial, but he should have dropped the "King" persona a long time ago. Henry's naivete came from Ezekial not showing Henry the way the world really works, as he grew older. It's what you do with teenagers. Keeping them protected does't prepare them for the real world.
Henry went to the Hilltop to learn smithing to fix the pipes & help the rot at Kingdom. They set that up 10+ episodes ago. And Eric was spot on with the Whisperers having left for warmer terrain. On Talking Dead they confirmed it & they confirmed the whisperers also took their herd of walkers with them. So the herd wasn't frozen or anything. Also she let him hit her to "make her stronger". As shane said it's something done in cultures around the world but for Alpha they said on Talking Dead she sees it as making her stronger. She believed hitting Lydia made her stronger remember so it's been set up that they think like that.
I just absolutely love the fact that Jude has a small little connection with all the cast. Just imagining King Zeke telling her stories on the radio and hunting with Daryl.
The pack migrated south for the winter. It’s interesting to me because you never really know where they are going to be. They don’t have a place like the sanctuary that you can just go attack. And he was whipping Alpha because she wanted him to punish her for “being weak” and going after lydia
The radio was in the comic. It's likely someone else. Won't spoil anything. I will say the Rick movies might actually involve that part of the comic... but this is just an educated guess. I doubt they'll mix Fear and the main show like that. Like what would be the point of it being a spin-off if they just connect the two shows?
The Whisperers are like animals (Alpha's words) and some animals head south for the winter. That's why there is no snow where they are, and also why they didn't see them crossing their border.
Darryl never hated having her there. He wasn’t going to give her back from the beginning because he sympathized with her over her mother’s abuse. He always wanted to keep her.
Lydia did not get everybody killed. Remember when Jesus was killed by the whisperer, well we didn’t see Lydia in that group, but she was on the bridge when they were taking Jesus’ body back, and Daryl ripped Lydia’s mask off and he said let’s take her back, and Michone looked at Daryl and said take her back? And Daryl said let’s go! Henry was in the cell next to Lydia and they started talking then Daryl released Lydia to her mother and Henry pursued her. Lydia is completely exempt from all of this! Daryl captures Lydia & Henry and told Alpha that you can’t have her, and Connie told Daryl when they were running from Alpha that Lydia has no friends in a note and so Daryl having a heart said that they all were together! Alpha just wanted her daughter and they would have walked away, but Alpha would have found Daryl & group eventually especially when a few whisperers got killed for killing Jesus in his last episode. Daryl, Carol & Lydia are domestic abuse survivors and Daryl especially understands her. All of them did evil at one time another. Rick come on, he’s my favorite character but Him & Morgan killing those saviors in season eight episode 13 or 14 (can’t remember) but that’s why I love Negan saying that people don’t think that their doing evil! He thought that he was right, and Rick thought that he was right etc. Negan has been redeemed and there’s a bigger arc for him. Alpha was getting whipped to strengthen her and she felt weak so she’s punishing herself. It was Eugene’s idea fixing the radio & Rosita helping him. They showed it last season.
Episode 15 This episode in the end gave me more questions than answers. How would the "ten" be so easily kidnapped from the Kingdom? I think there is a traitor. But who? => Ezekiel. Watch the episode again. Jerry's wife tells him that the king is missing the beginning of the movie because he is fixing the plumbing (where is Henry). Ezechiel is with Alpha just before to give him clothes for the winter. I just found that weird, do not you? Right after, Alpha enters the cinema next to his daughter. Ezekiel is not seen again until after Lydia comes to announce that she is looking for Henry. If there are suspense made to surprise the fans of the comics, we do not know what Ezekiel really did during all this time. For months, Ezekiel has only talked about the fair to reunite all communities. What worse info during episode 16 if we learn that Ezekiel has betrayed his own? The "bomb" of this end of season is perhaps there. In the trailer of episode 16 he looks at the famous "pikes". But look well, he looks at those of the dead on the hill (especially Tara with whom he had to finish signing the famous pact of defense of the communities) but not that of Henry. Alpha has trapped Ezekiel. She threatened to kill her son (whom the whisperers had captured). In exchange for his life (Ezekiel loves Henry more than anything else), he betrayed his own. After all, he is the man whom everyone trusts! To punish him for the loss of his daughter (who does not want to join her anymore), she has Henry taken and taken to the whisperers to make him feel the loss of his child. She threatens to declare war (she will do it later with Daryl) if he tries to find his son. She uses another head that looks like him to believe in his death. At what moment? Siddiq says he sees everything (the decapitated heads I imagine too) and then he's knocked out. What need to knock him out while Beta and the others could easily tie him to a tree like Henry in episode 12? My theory: just after that, they took Henry with them (instead of killing him) and put a head that looked like him on the "pikes" to make others believe in his death. Let's see the dead: - Alexandria (2) - patrollers of the road (2) - the hilltop (5) - the kingdom (1 = Henry) It's more than strange ... The hilltop is the real community affected. The medallion "H" full of blood at the beginning of the episode annunciated it. You did not find Ezekiel very little expressive during Siddiq's speech while his beloved son "just died" in the worst of ways? The enemy from the inside may be him. "Lydia's" H "medallion on Henry's" pikes "wants to say his name first for her, but he also says hope as the husband at the beginning of the episode told his wife. And if we saw Henry again? Production says he's dead but GOT, for example, made us much worse for an entire year for Jon Snow's supposed death. Episode 16 confirms my theory (which still holds for the moment). In the beginning, Ezekiel looks at the chart (thoughts to Tara he betrayed?) While in total opposition Carol looks at the memories of his son Henry with sadness. Ezekiel looks closely at Tara's signature (who is dead and probably betrayed). His sentence behind is not trivial: "The cowards die many times before their death (reference to him) .The brave only taste once to death (reference to the people he betrayed and who fought until 'at the end)". 2nd step: Carol says to go through the "pikes" and says "we did not validate these borders, it's his not ours". Ezekiel says: "And if we start a war, we can do nothing against them" => fear for his people but perhaps also for the life of his son (reminder of the threat of Alpha to Ezekiel according to my theory). 3rd stage: speech between Michonne and Ezekiel: "I should have anticipated, evacuate earlier (the kingdom)". Why did not he do it? (feeling guilty during those months of going to the hilltop after secretly betraying them to save his son and his family?). Michonne: "This woman was able to infiltrate us because we did not know each other." Look well, Ezekiel clearly drops his eyes. "It must not happen again." Ezekiel turns to Michonne and looks guilty. Michonne's speech is very striking (compared to a traitor Ezekiel): "These people are no more than yours, they are ours, and we will bring them back." Reference to episode 15 that I speak in theory (Ezekiel betrays other communities). Reply Ezekiel: 'If they see us through, it will go wrong' (implied: the threat of Alpha on the life of Henry he can not confess). Michonne: "Then we will not be seen". Very concerned look of Ezekiel. 4th step: the scene of the "pickes". Ezekiel looks at those on the hilltop. Like a person who thinks of his betrayal of Tara and his family. He does not bear a single second eye on the one where there was his son, not a single second while he loved more than anything (strange?). At the same time to differentiate completely, we see Lydia remains frozen and sad in front of the "picke" Henry where she had placed the famous medallion H (Henry and hope) a few months earlier. Step 5: Alpha tells Beta "I need to be stronger" and she gets whipped by Beta. Reference to the fact that she did not kill her daughter (and maybe Henry). Just behind is the plan with Ezekiel that appears. Ezekiel to Judith: 'to leave one's place of life is not to leave one's home.' It could be interpreted in the sense of Henry who has gone from the sedentary world of the Kingdom to the nomadic and "animal" of the whisperers . Judith: "you said it." Ezekiel is in his thoughts (does he think of Henry, who is in the whisperers during that time?).
Walking dead seasons ranked: Season 5\ Season 4 \ Season 9 } All pretty close Season 1 / Season 3 / Season 2 Season 6 Season 8 Season 7 I look forward to everyone telling me I'm wrong.
@@ajnr6876 apart from some great character drama I just thought it was one of the more boring seasons. It's more drawn out than season 1 and doesn't have a clear villain like season 3 to focus the story.
@@lukeevans6070 honestly I enjoyed alot of leason 6 but it was one of the most frustrating seasons, highlights being Glenn's dumpster dive and the colossal fuck up that was the finale.
Season 10. Everyone's getting their asses kicked by the Whisperer when suddenly Rick Grimes blasts down from the sky in a beam of light. Daryl smiles and laughs Ah ha you guys are so screwed now. Then Rick yells *BRING ME ALPHA*
Ah yes The whisperers intro my favorite Ps that scene when lydia trying to kill herself ia reference to carol suicide in the comics back in the prison carol let herself die by letting a walking bite her neck
Fear Crossover! It was Althea from Fear. She is calling telling them that Morgan found Rick. Rick lost his memory. Has 4 trash lady kids. New name is Michael Jordan. They are in Chicago. Morgan found him and Rick is starting remembering everything.
Magestic Ezekiel, how much can be ripped away in one episode. His son, Shiva, the Kingdom and his wife Carol. Rip to the horses at Sanctuary. Missed Connie so much, Lydias champion and Daryls taken up the mantle. Negan and Michonne are powerhouses, individual and together. I feel the communties shouldve been more prepared for winter. The chimneys fixed, plants brought inside. Judith needs to stop running off. Wish Rick was on the radio. Angela Kang has brought twd back.
Negan is the hero of this episode. Saving Judith and the dog. Saving Judith's life definitely has earned him Michonne's trust. He better be set free permanently next season.
Great intro!! The Whisperers migrated South, they weren't even there when the group crossed the border. Beta said the time away has done the pack good. That scene was meant to be after winter. As for Carol, she told Daryl that Ezekiel was taking it out on Daryl because he couldn't bring himself to take it out on Carol. Ezekiel, deep down, blames Daryl and Carol for Henry's death because she sent Henry to Daryl and Daryl let Henry bring Lydia back, so it was inevitable. Very sad, though. She was right at the beginning, it was all make believe-a fairytale. 😔😔😔
They explained why there is no snow during the Whisperers scene on Talking Dead, they weren't in the area. The idea is, since they are "like animals", they migrated south when colder weather was coming and will go back once winter is over.
The fact that fans, 9 Seasons in, still don't understand this show, boggles the mind. I'm so sick of the terms ''filler'' and ''slower episode''. Do you, literally, need to see action from start to finish in EVERY episode? This show has always been about the people, the storytelling and character development. Every moment matters. And every moment is for a reason. It's not about killing zombies every second of every episode. And then no one knows characters' names that have been on the show awhile, have had speaking parts, have had their names said over and over again. Is it that hard to pay attention to a show people claim to love for an hour a week, 16 weeks out of the year? Or do millennials only have the attention spans of fleas? My God, do better.
Why would more people go it means more people would have died if they could not find her and if they find her negan could carry a little girl even when hurt
Just watch the episode, I enjoy it a lot. Love the reaction and the review. I hope next season is mostly winter, love the idea. Oddly I want to watch Goosebumps after this.
Going into the episode I had a feeling the pikes were happening but had convinced myself Ezekiel and Rosita were going to die and I was at peace with that. Enid and Tara were my favorite characters and they both died...a year later and I'm still devastated.
but the final episode didn't set anything up except for the radio call at the end. it was an hour long episode of them walking in the snow. i bet you will be able to go from episode 15 to the premiere of next season without missing a thing.
@@Adam-xg1ch its about the fallout from the climax. now they can carry on to the next part without having to answer a ton of questions and they put them in a new location etc
That freaking intro xD Also...I love that Carol chose Daryl over Ezekiel. When they talk on the stairway she asks him what Ezekiel said and then he says he's going to leave and he asks her what she wants him to do. We don't hear her answer then...but we see her answer in the end when she chooses to go back to Alexandria with that group. How DARE Ezekiel tell Daryl not to come around Carol?! Like, dude, why are you feeling so threatened?? XD
Flooding already happened on Fear The Walking Dead. It was decent. Had a giant Gator eating Zombies and such. Eh wasn't that amazing after what was apparently a Hurricane.
I don't think all the pike deaths were meant to be impactful to the viewer. Even in the comic, there were some red shirts. They were more there to provide diversity of the communities. There was at least one from each community except for Oceanside. But yeah, you can see with the way they set it up, you were meant to be like meh at first then slowly be like noo... nooooo... NO, not Carol's kid! She can't lose another... or in the comic, someone else. I don't think 15 was slow at all. This one is, but not in a bad way. A little bit of a calm and redemptive episode balances things out and isn't predictable. Love the Negan stuff most of all.
Goosebumps intro was exactly what I needed to see today. Great job guys, that was hilarious.
I laughed way too hard at the dog's glowing eyes
I had to come to the comments before the reaction started for this😂🤣
I never thought I’d see Daryl in a snowball fight
I would happily watch a show with just Negan, Dog & Lil' Judith
All hell breaks when Uncle Daryl comes to visit
@@staceypiper3319 I just think it'll be one hell of a cliffhanger when Papa Grimes returns in the Season 3 finale.
It's needs to be in cheesy 90's sitcom fashion!
@@kimwatchesstuff And everyone's always talking about the Zombie Apocalypse outside although we never actually see it haha
the last of us feat. dog?
I think you guys hit the nail on the head here with your explanation. I'm getting tired of hearing people saying the pike deaths didn't have many big A listers but you can have a more impactful scene that's is even better than the comic choices and honestly I think it was more emotionally devastating. Even just seeing Rodney and Addy being basically kids being murdered like that is brutal and how people like the higwaymen risked their lives when they didn't even need to and then seeing Tammy die after just receiving a child with Earl and seeing many relationships break with Alden, Carol, Ezekiel and Lydia being affected was also brutal! They picked great choices to drive the story forward and it worked better than the comics!
It worked as well as it should have for this medium, as the comic worked as well as it needed to for it's world
I’m surprised more people weren’t upset about Tara. Tara hit me the hardest. She was one of my favorites. Since season 4 she was always funny & her friendship with Glenn was touching. I cried over Tara. It was a big shock for me.
Tara hit me so hard. She was on my A list :(
I disagree.
@@hcfjonesTara was the one that actually got me the most
Remember the marks on Lydia's arms? Alpha was having Beta whip her so the pain, or enduring the pain, would make her stronger, just as Alpha would whip Lydia's arms to make Lydia stronger.
Angela Kang said that the whisperers migrate south or to a warmer place during the winter...that is why there is no snow.
Which begs the question, why go back north after?
@@melissakessler4323 Exactly. It's all about territory. They probably also have paths of migration and hunting/gathering spots. By now they probably have it all down to a t.
Negan's love for Judith gives me life!
The Calm Before was more turbulent and The Storm was more calm. Love that they did the episodes that way.
That look Shane gave Calvin was also the best thing I’ve seen all day
Yeah lol
When we were first introduced to Negan, I never thought I would see him as a hero, putting his life on the line for a little girl and a dog
This is the happiest Daryl has at least "looked" since Jenner's lab at dinner, and also the most Norman Reedus-y Daryl has ever looked on the show lol.
Lol 'Negans injury not serious enough for a tourniquet'. Have a day off Calvin m8.
Shane look at Calvin was priceless.
Also Alpha and the Whisperers went down south before the storm. She told Ezekiel the winter will be harsh and like wild animals living in the forest they migrate south to avoid the winter. That's why the scene with Alpha we can see good weather and then in Alexandria a storm. @Blind Wave
Daryl should have called Alden "Savior" just to taunt him a little after he was rude to Lydia.
That would show that Daryl only sees him as a savior tho
@@McLoviniam that's not the point, it would make Alden feel like an outsider since he did the same with Lydia and remind him of who he was before, and then to think twice about being a smartass.
Kang era Daryl They throw away former grudges once they’re accepted into the group. Things would be chaotic if they didn’t. It’s all about helping eachother survive.
@@ilovegames9708 i know it's TWD, but I just think it would be unnecessary drama. It's been 6+ years, why dig up the past to prove a point.
@@tiffanicasteel8573 it's not simple unless you ignore the implications it would have. You see it as a simple reminder, but ignore the fact that hes been apart of the group for years now and had his gf killed by this random chicks mom, and lydia literally just joined less than a year ago. Only niave/stupid people would trust a person who doesnt seem to be very stable, and is known to lie out her ASSS
Guys Ezekiel said himself that the kimgdomn is done now and that fires started because of the pipes etc
Daryl didn't accept Lydia just because of Henry. The moment Daryl realized that Lydia was abused, he was on her side. His first priority was the communities, so he had to turn her over to Alpha to negotiate some kind of peace, but I have no doubt in my mind that he empathized with her. Abused children are programmed to blame themselves when something goes wrong. Lydia could easily turn out to be a shadow Daryl, but I get the feeling that Daryl isn't going to allow that to happen. The snow fight at the end was for all the children, but it was also for Lydia to experience happiness. JMO, of course. :-) ♡
And Carol leaving Ezekial makes sense to me. I never liked the way that Carol had to "pretend" to be something that we all she wasn't, simply because that's the way Ezekial wanted to raise Henry. It almost felt like the "cookie - baking housewife" Carol says she had to perform for her neighbors when she was with Ed. No, she wasn't abused by Ezekial, but she still had to pretend to be someone she wasn't. I like Ezekial, but he should have dropped the "King" persona a long time ago. Henry's naivete came from Ezekial not showing Henry the way the world really works, as he grew older. It's what you do with teenagers. Keeping them protected does't prepare them for the real world.
Henry went to the Hilltop to learn smithing to fix the pipes & help the rot at Kingdom. They set that up 10+ episodes ago.
And Eric was spot on with the Whisperers having left for warmer terrain. On Talking Dead they confirmed it & they confirmed the whisperers also took their herd of walkers with them. So the herd wasn't frozen or anything. Also she let him hit her to "make her stronger". As shane said it's something done in cultures around the world but for Alpha they said on Talking Dead she sees it as making her stronger. She believed hitting Lydia made her stronger remember so it's been set up that they think like that.
I just absolutely love the fact that Jude has a small little connection with all the cast. Just imagining King Zeke telling her stories on the radio and hunting with Daryl.
Goosebumps intro made me laugh and gave me chills. Very well done
The Goosbumps Intro was Amazing and with the clips you chose for worked really well
Hot damn, this season was amazing! Can't wait for your guy's reactions to S10!
NICEEEE. Thank you, for all your reaction in this series. See you in October ;).
The pack migrated south for the winter. It’s interesting to me because you never really know where they are going to be. They don’t have a place like the sanctuary that you can just go attack. And he was whipping Alpha because she wanted him to punish her for “being weak” and going after lydia
...Negan Saved Judith and Dog!..The Real MVP of This episode lol Great Reaction as Always👍
Fear The Walking Dead had walkie talkie out looking for people. That's who I think was on the radio
The radio was in the comic. It's likely someone else. Won't spoil anything. I will say the Rick movies might actually involve that part of the comic... but this is just an educated guess.
I doubt they'll mix Fear and the main show like that. Like what would be the point of it being a spin-off if they just connect the two shows?
Honestly Tara was sadder to me than Enid. Lots of people have forgotten her story arc in Season 4 5 and 6. She was awesome.
And the fist bumps man...
Her ex before the doctor is now on arrow.
The Whisperers are like animals (Alpha's words) and some animals head south for the winter. That's why there is no snow where they are, and also why they didn't see them crossing their border.
I knew they would give us an episode where Negan would get to prove his worth...🙏🏾
That intro was so refreshing and funny asf lol I love yall
This was a great season of walking dead especially the second half. I like the game of thrones style climax and then build up episode finale
Radio voice could be Alicia from Fear, another crossover maybe coming.
Darryl never hated having her there. He wasn’t going to give her back from the beginning because he sympathized with her over her mother’s abuse. He always wanted to keep her.
About the kingdom. Keep in mind that Henri was the one doing the repairs as they came along. With him gone, it was bound to get way too messed up
Lydia did not get everybody killed. Remember when Jesus was killed by the whisperer, well we didn’t see Lydia in that group, but she was on the bridge when they were taking Jesus’ body back, and Daryl ripped Lydia’s mask off and he said let’s take her back, and Michone looked at Daryl and said take her back? And Daryl said let’s go! Henry was in the cell next to Lydia and they started talking then Daryl released Lydia to her mother and Henry pursued her. Lydia is completely exempt from all of this! Daryl captures Lydia & Henry and told Alpha that you can’t have her, and Connie told Daryl when they were running from Alpha that Lydia has no friends in a note and so Daryl having a heart said that they all were together! Alpha just wanted her daughter and they would have walked away, but Alpha would have found Daryl & group eventually especially when a few whisperers got killed for killing Jesus in his last episode. Daryl, Carol & Lydia are domestic abuse survivors and Daryl especially understands her. All of them did evil at one time another. Rick come on, he’s my favorite character but Him & Morgan killing those saviors in season eight episode 13 or 14 (can’t remember) but that’s why I love Negan saying that people don’t think that their doing evil! He thought that he was right, and Rick thought that he was right etc. Negan has been redeemed and there’s a bigger arc for him. Alpha was getting whipped to strengthen her and she felt weak so she’s punishing herself. It was Eugene’s idea fixing the radio & Rosita helping him. They showed it last season.
LOL! Negan dog's eyes glowing! PERFECT!
all the actors who left chose the wrongggg time to leave, i heard andy lincoln said himself that he regrets leaving cause it’s so good now
Alden is the former Savior guy. Maybe you find this out later, but commenting before episode is done.
Y'all should give Fear the Walking Dead another shot.
That is, without a doubt the best intro I have ever seen to a walking dead reaction! :')
Episode 15
This episode in the end gave me more questions than answers. How would the "ten" be so easily kidnapped from the Kingdom? I think there is a traitor. But who? => Ezekiel.
Watch the episode again. Jerry's wife tells him that the king is missing the beginning of the movie because he is fixing the plumbing (where is Henry). Ezechiel is with Alpha just before to give him clothes for the winter. I just found that weird, do not you? Right after, Alpha enters the cinema next to his daughter. Ezekiel is not seen again until after Lydia comes to announce that she is looking for Henry. If there are suspense made to surprise the fans of the comics, we do not know what Ezekiel really did during all this time.
For months, Ezekiel has only talked about the fair to reunite all communities. What worse info during episode 16 if we learn that Ezekiel has betrayed his own? The "bomb" of this end of season is perhaps there. In the trailer of episode 16 he looks at the famous "pikes". But look well, he looks at those of the dead on the hill (especially Tara with whom he had to finish signing the famous pact of defense of the communities) but not that of Henry.
Alpha has trapped Ezekiel. She threatened to kill her son (whom the whisperers had captured). In exchange for his life (Ezekiel loves Henry more than anything else), he betrayed his own. After all, he is the man whom everyone trusts!
To punish him for the loss of his daughter (who does not want to join her anymore), she has Henry taken and taken to the whisperers to make him feel the loss of his child. She threatens to declare war (she will do it later with Daryl) if he tries to find his son. She uses another head that looks like him to believe in his death. At what moment? Siddiq says he sees everything (the decapitated heads I imagine too) and then he's knocked out. What need to knock him out while Beta and the others could easily tie him to a tree like Henry in episode 12? My theory: just after that, they took Henry with them (instead of killing him) and put a head that looked like him on the "pikes" to make others believe in his death.
Let's see the dead:
- Alexandria (2)
- patrollers of the road (2)
- the hilltop (5)
- the kingdom (1 = Henry)
It's more than strange ...
The hilltop is the real community affected. The medallion "H" full of blood at the beginning of the episode annunciated it. You did not find Ezekiel very little expressive during Siddiq's speech while his beloved son "just died" in the worst of ways? The enemy from the inside may be him. "Lydia's" H "medallion on Henry's" pikes "wants to say his name first for her, but he also says hope as the husband at the beginning of the episode told his wife. And if we saw Henry again? Production says he's dead but GOT, for example, made us much worse for an entire year for Jon Snow's supposed death.
Episode 16 confirms my theory (which still holds for the moment). In the beginning, Ezekiel looks at the chart (thoughts to Tara he betrayed?) While in total opposition Carol looks at the memories of his son Henry with sadness. Ezekiel looks closely at Tara's signature (who is dead and probably betrayed). His sentence behind is not trivial: "The cowards die many times before their death (reference to him) .The brave only taste once to death (reference to the people he betrayed and who fought until 'at the end)".
2nd step: Carol says to go through the "pikes" and says "we did not validate these borders, it's his not ours". Ezekiel says: "And if we start a war, we can do nothing against them" => fear for his people but perhaps also for the life of his son (reminder of the threat of Alpha to Ezekiel according to my theory).
3rd stage: speech between Michonne and Ezekiel: "I should have anticipated, evacuate earlier (the kingdom)". Why did not he do it? (feeling guilty during those months of going to the hilltop after secretly betraying them to save his son and his family?).
Michonne: "This woman was able to infiltrate us because we did not know each other." Look well, Ezekiel clearly drops his eyes. "It must not happen again." Ezekiel turns to Michonne and looks guilty.
Michonne's speech is very striking (compared to a traitor Ezekiel): "These people are no more than yours, they are ours, and we will bring them back." Reference to episode 15 that I speak in theory (Ezekiel betrays other communities).
Reply Ezekiel: 'If they see us through, it will go wrong' (implied: the threat of Alpha on the life of Henry he can not confess).
Michonne: "Then we will not be seen". Very concerned look of Ezekiel.
4th step: the scene of the "pickes". Ezekiel looks at those on the hilltop. Like a person who thinks of his betrayal of Tara and his family. He does not bear a single second eye on the one where there was his son, not a single second while he loved more than anything (strange?).
At the same time to differentiate completely, we see Lydia remains frozen and sad in front of the "picke" Henry where she had placed the famous medallion H (Henry and hope) a few months earlier.
Step 5: Alpha tells Beta "I need to be stronger" and she gets whipped by Beta. Reference to the fact that she did not kill her daughter (and maybe Henry). Just behind is the plan with Ezekiel that appears.
Ezekiel to Judith: 'to leave one's place of life is not to leave one's home.' It could be interpreted in the sense of Henry who has gone from the sedentary world of the Kingdom to the nomadic and "animal" of the whisperers .
Judith: "you said it." Ezekiel is in his thoughts (does he think of Henry, who is in the whisperers during that time?).
Walking dead seasons ranked:
Season 5\
Season 4 \
Season 9 } All pretty close
Season 1 /
Season 3 /
Season 2
Season 6
Season 8
Season 7
I look forward to everyone telling me I'm wrong.
Season 6 was great for me, other then that you are dead on
@@ajnr6876 apart from some great character drama I just thought it was one of the more boring seasons. It's more drawn out than season 1 and doesn't have a clear villain like season 3 to focus the story.
@@lukeevans6070 honestly I enjoyed alot of leason 6 but it was one of the most frustrating seasons, highlights being Glenn's dumpster dive and the colossal fuck up that was the finale.
Yeah, that's pretty spot on, I'd say. Maybe move season 6 up above 2, just slightly
The goosebumps intro got me, thank you for that. It was amazing
That goosebumps intro was great 😂
Season 10. Everyone's getting their asses kicked by the Whisperer when suddenly Rick Grimes blasts down from the sky in a beam of light. Daryl smiles and laughs
Ah ha you guys are so screwed now. Then Rick yells
*BRING ME ALPHA*
That intro brought me back 👌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
the whisperers migrated during the winter
Its either Rick and the 'Helicopter People' or more realistically, Maggie and the commonwealth.
It's not Rick we womt see Rick again till the movie
@@ShirouBrando most definately the commonwealth then
I never thought that I would obtain a liking for Negan.
Dude the goosebumps intro this is why I fucking love you guys
Ah yes The whisperers intro my favorite
Ps that scene when lydia trying to kill herself ia reference to carol suicide in the comics back in the prison carol let herself die by letting a walking bite her neck
Fear Crossover! It was Althea from Fear. She is calling telling them that Morgan found Rick. Rick lost his memory. Has 4 trash lady kids. New name is Michael Jordan. They are in Chicago. Morgan found him and Rick is starting remembering everything.
The whisperers migrate with the weather. Thats why Beta said time away has been good for the pack.Thought u guys woulda caught that.
@@trentonmcclintock7836 Bro are you fucking dense. I didnt say I said it was good for them. Beta said that in the episode moron.
That goosebumps intro! Lol the nostalgia! Love it!
Might be just cuz I'm drunk, but your intro legit spooked my ass more than TWD ever has...gdamn well done as always
Magestic Ezekiel, how much can be ripped away in one episode. His son, Shiva, the Kingdom and his wife Carol. Rip to the horses at Sanctuary. Missed Connie so much, Lydias champion and Daryls taken up the mantle. Negan and Michonne are powerhouses, individual and together. I feel the communties shouldve been more prepared for winter. The chimneys fixed, plants brought inside. Judith needs to stop running off. Wish Rick was on the radio. Angela Kang has brought twd back.
Negan is the hero of this episode. Saving Judith and the dog. Saving Judith's life definitely has earned him Michonne's trust. He better be set free permanently next season.
They're going to have to keep an eye on certain people that are there now lol
Great intro!! The Whisperers migrated South, they weren't even there when the group crossed the border. Beta said the time away has done the pack good. That scene was meant to be after winter. As for Carol, she told Daryl that Ezekiel was taking it out on Daryl because he couldn't bring himself to take it out on Carol. Ezekiel, deep down, blames Daryl and Carol for Henry's death because she sent Henry to Daryl and Daryl let Henry bring Lydia back, so it was inevitable. Very sad, though. She was right at the beginning, it was all make believe-a fairytale. 😔😔😔
omg the goosebumps introoooooo I LOVE IT!!!!!!!
They explained why there is no snow during the Whisperers scene on Talking Dead, they weren't in the area. The idea is, since they are "like animals", they migrated south when colder weather was coming and will go back once winter is over.
Did anyone notice that half zombie lady laying on the ground? it's the same lady zombie from Return of the living dead from 1985
Yea I did but you beat me to posting it.
Yes I Loved that! BRAINS MAKE THE PAIN GO WAY
@@tickotytuck199 lol. It hurts to be dead.
the person on the radio was female and had a country accent on her. 100% maggie
Mason Marlatt already been confirmed that it’s someone we haven’t met yet, prob someone from the commonwealth I think
@@lukemaloney5123 Did they confirm it on Talking Dead?
Matthew Feagins yea kang said herself on the talking dead
@@lukemaloney5123 well that sucks. It's (Spoilers) probably Stephanie from the Commonwealth
My favorite reaction channel ever, EVER.
Walking Dead : Art of Death
A = Alek
R = Rodney
T = Tammy Rose
O = Ozzy
F = Frankie
D = DJ
E = Enid
A = Addy
T = Tara
H = Henry
Loved the goosebumps into it fits so well
Damn!!! What an ending..... Can you believe the radio?? Ezekiel left it on and now it's wasting batteries!!! Lol
Goosebumps into was perfect hahaha the childhood memories
I love the intro for this reaction episode
Been waiting for this dude, my favorite reactors. got my notificatioooon,
The fact that fans, 9 Seasons in, still don't understand this show, boggles the mind. I'm so sick of the terms ''filler'' and ''slower episode''. Do you, literally, need to see action from start to finish in EVERY episode? This show has always been about the people, the storytelling and character development. Every moment matters. And every moment is for a reason. It's not about killing zombies every second of every episode. And then no one knows characters' names that have been on the show awhile, have had speaking parts, have had their names said over and over again. Is it that hard to pay attention to a show people claim to love for an hour a week, 16 weeks out of the year? Or do millennials only have the attention spans of fleas? My God, do better.
Watch Game of thrones better story all way through
Maggie could be at Georgie, The woman that gave her the building blueprints?
That intro alone warranted a Like on this video.
It was Maggie on the radio!!!
No kane comfermed it
the goosebumps intro was legit hahaha
God, I wish I had a room and friends like that.
Who was it that yelled "Negan" when he went after Judith? Why was he the ONLY one that went after Judith?
I think it was Gabriel.
Why would more people go it means more people would have died if they could not find her and if they find her negan could carry a little girl even when hurt
That was a great walking dead intro. Tells me you guys liked this season a lot and are excited for what's next!
Omg the intro had me tripping for a sec cause I wasn't paying attention. I was like wait am I watching goosebumps? I thought I clicked on blind wave.
wtf that intro haha love it
Y’all are funny as hell. Epic intro. 😂🙈
Just watch the episode, I enjoy it a lot. Love the reaction and the review. I hope next season is mostly winter, love the idea. Oddly I want to watch Goosebumps after this.
Going into the episode I had a feeling the pikes were happening but had convinced myself Ezekiel and Rosita were going to die and I was at peace with that. Enid and Tara were my favorite characters and they both died...a year later and I'm still devastated.
Goosebumps from that nostalgia
When it's really cold, lying under the snow would actually keep you a lot warmer than being in the open air
I Murder a Rhyme One Word at a Time
Just wanted to say that that intro was *awesome!* 😳😨😰😖 Goosebumps!
16:38 Literally me every time Calvin calls stuff out.
Brian's Winter! Sequel to Hatchet!
the 2nd to last season is supposed to be the climax and the finale is the conclusion. That way the premiere can take off running more
but the final episode didn't set anything up except for the radio call at the end. it was an hour long episode of them walking in the snow. i bet you will be able to go from episode 15 to the premiere of next season without missing a thing.
@@Adam-xg1ch its about the fallout from the climax. now they can carry on to the next part without having to answer a ton of questions and they put them in a new location etc
love the intro!
That freaking intro xD
Also...I love that Carol chose Daryl over Ezekiel. When they talk on the stairway she asks him what Ezekiel said and then he says he's going to leave and he asks her what she wants him to do.
We don't hear her answer then...but we see her answer in the end when she chooses to go back to Alexandria with that group.
How DARE Ezekiel tell Daryl not to come around Carol?! Like, dude, why are you feeling so threatened?? XD
What gets me is, several people, even in the storm... DIDN'T CLOSE/ZIP THEIR COAT!!! Obviously shot on sound stage.
Omg the intro! Love it!!
Slowly Inch the Stakes further and further into the land.
Flooding already happened on Fear The Walking Dead. It was decent. Had a giant Gator eating Zombies and such. Eh wasn't that amazing after what was apparently a Hurricane.
I don't think all the pike deaths were meant to be impactful to the viewer. Even in the comic, there were some red shirts. They were more there to provide diversity of the communities. There was at least one from each community except for Oceanside. But yeah, you can see with the way they set it up, you were meant to be like meh at first then slowly be like noo... nooooo... NO, not Carol's kid! She can't lose another... or in the comic, someone else.
I don't think 15 was slow at all. This one is, but not in a bad way. A little bit of a calm and redemptive episode balances things out and isn't predictable. Love the Negan stuff most of all.
i love the intro to this reaction lmao so good
The voice on the radio was pretty choppy but I honestly thought the woman on the radio was Maggie...?
It's so sad that Rick isn't here for all this, that he can't be there for Judith and RJ 😢 I miss Richonne.
Great intro to your video guys. I thought the season 9 finale was pretty good. It was mostly shot in a studio guys.
that intro was so cool...