The Walking Dead 6x16 Finale REACTION!! "Last Day on Earth"
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2016
- Eric and Shane react to and discuss season 6 Finale episode 16 of The Walking Dead Last day on earth
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I think Rick is so confident because he didn't know the size of the Saviors. He's killed liked 70+ already, thinking that's nearly everyone
no where near 70
According to the kill count video its 47 or something
Fun Fact: Andrew Lincoln's real name Andrew James Clutterbuck (no joke). When he started acting his agent said he needed to change his name.
yep there's a interview of him talking about his name
+Antoine Bandele and his grandfather didn't speak to him for 6 months xD
Tbh sounds like clusterf*ck
Yep
@@ferhoboi ouch, Andrew should have told him that John Wayne did the same thing
The reason rick is so confident because if you remember a few episodes ago him and eight people like took down 100+ walkers by themselves
To be fair they lit the lake on fire remember
I totally agree with you about the cliffhanger ending. That stupid ending overshadows the great acting that Andrew Lincoln and Jeffrey Dean Morgan did.
I really agree, imagine the more visceral and powerful ending it would have been had we seen Negan beating whoever it is, see/hear the reactions, and end it with silence and Negan nonchalantly walking away with the comment "ta ta" like in the comics, if they ended it like that, that would have sealed Negan's power and brutality and made him fearsome, only now they've diminished his entrance by taking all that momentum away and leaving it as a guessing game - this would be like if game of thrones did the red wedding but we only saw the beginning from first person and they just end the season there, all that momentum for nothing - this honestly is one of the things if they followed the comics, it would work even more powerful visually than what was on the pages - whether it was Glenn or someone else - now that momentum is just totally lost
my biggest problem with the cliffhanger is the momentum of the scene is now chopped and I will never get that initial feeling I did watching it the first time
+Lillian Gillhart Agreed. I was sweaty and loving it and that ending totally ruined it. I could still watch the last scene for Negan, but I probably won't watch the episode again.
+No-Limitation That's my biggest complaint about this show. I hate that they never start the next episode from where the last episode ended. Like, I was looking forward to Maggie and Glenn reuniting after she thought he was dead. Next episode it's months later and everything is back to normal. Like fuck. That kills the emotion for me. If next Season just starts with everybody back home I'm gonna be PISSED.
No-Limitation Yeah I love the show but damn they are frustrating sometimes.
im not watching FTWD in protest
Have to ask, did you change your mind after season 7 episode 1? Because I love it, it's basically the only scene in the walking dead that I think is good.
Season 7 Episode 1 Description:
"Tara and Heath journey through a 45 minute long adventure just to piss you off even more. Plus, scenes with the Alexandrians. so that you get even more aggravated. Then a small clip of Negan mercilessly beating the camera man to death... and then... credits."
+Torchwood Boy Imagine them dragging it out until mid season with Negan backstory
+Torchwood Boy AHAHAHAHAA LOL!!! Dude they are TOTALLY going to do that fuckshit. I guarantee you buddy, they'll fucking do that bullshit just to piss us the fuck off.
FUCK NOOO
+Torchwood Boy The premiere is going to be a 90-minute backstory on the horse Morgan found.
Two episodes Tara and Heath, three episodes Morgan, Carol and Kingdom backstory, three episodes Negan and Saviours backstory and then we don't find out 'til next February.
i feel like ricks confidence was addressed back when they first met the hilltop, during the first roadblock he was full of confident, second roadblock he was less confidant, less on third, and by the time they reached Negan he was broken, terrified. i thought it was excellent storytelling.
ok, how amazing was Negan! i can't believe Eric and Shane aren't excited! he was amazing!!! fucking terrifying and brilliant performance from him! the last 10 minutes, his entire monologue was perfection. its obvious they worked on it for a really really long time. more than anything else this season, they fucking worked that goddamn monologue!
Worked that cliff hanger too.... lol. But I agree with you.
+Blind Wave i know, but i freaked the fuck out! and i thought you guys would too. but i know you think he's great :)
+Blind Wave I think the confidence has to do with the fact he's beaten the Governor, beaten the Wolves, and he managed to get his entire settlement to fight off 100 zombies with like no injuries during that battle. Like he said in 'The Next World', he finally gets it and has hope again, I think that hope became overconfidence when they took out an entire Saviour base.
+rakan alshubat 13:13
xxdavecz "a good guy" ?
he just smacked one of them over the head with a spiky baseball bat that has a name!
*good character
Carol's point was she may end up in a situation where she has to kill to save someone, but she can't bring herself to kill whoever is threatening her friends.
In that situation, she feels she'd just be another liability.
it was basically Trevor from gta 5 in walking dead
AMC fucked up. Episode was perfect, but AMC had to fuck it up obviously.
I think Carols point is that if she is away from people she cares about then it doesn't matter if she doesn't kill. When she and Maggie were captured it mattered whether she killed or not because if she didn't kill then Maggie would have been killed. However, on her own, Carol doesn't care if she lives or dies so if she doesn't kill it's no big deal to her.
Everyone's acting in this show is on another level, Negan was amazing!, Rick looks genuinely broken, psychologically and physically. Absolutely brilliant show, unbelievable acting. PERFECTION!!!
I've watched the entire series up to date at least 7 times maybe more, and at least 10-12 reactors watch the whole series aswell.... how incredibly dumb do I feel having *never* considered Denise's death was to set Maggie up to have to go to Hilltop. 🤦♀️ I'm legit mad at myself lol. Maybe she was such a insignificant character to me that I didn't even put thought into her death like that idk. Makes 1000% sense.
Lol damn I can't get over how dumb I feel.
Don't feel bad. Unless you were a TWD comic reader beforehand and knew the threat of Negan and "the lineup" was coming, you wouldn't have thought there was anything all that dangerous outside of Alexandria that would threaten all of the strongest Alexandrians together after "Not Tommorow Yet"/"The Same Boat" where it appears the Alexandrians have crippled The Saviors.
Eric's reaction to "Twice As Far" is the "normal" reaction: under no circumstances would a community allow their doctor, even if they aren't a fully-trained and certified doctor, to go outside their walls in the Zombie Apocalypse -- the showrunners needed Denise to go on a mission and get killed because they needed a consequential enough pretext (i.e., one of the most beloved main characters who's pregnant is suffering from unknown pain) to justify most of the key characters piling into an RV *even after they realize the Saviors are still out there, and just successfully ambushed a group of Alexandrians after the Outpost ambush*
The whole sequence is only really believable in retrospect, but you're also supposed to realize that The Saviors have such a massive advantage over Alexandria (alone) in numbers/weaponry that if they didn't spring the trap on them by blockading Hilltop, they'd have done the same thing days/weeks/months later to whoever the poor souls were who left Alexandria with their guards down.
The anger that everyone felt about the cliffhanger, cracks me up. They were brillant for doing that! It caused so much up rise in a good way. It gave us all something to get pumped for and also made us upset but that was the point. If they woulda shown who it was.... who cares. Good finales leave a "killer" cliffhanger. It was one of tha best finales ever cause it done the job of making us NEED to see the next episode. I understand the frustration but I 100% thought Eric would've been behind the way it all played out. Amazing build-up... success! Much Love BWFANS😁💚
Carol's argument is very convoluted but I think she is trying to say that if she can't kill anymore she doesn't deserve to be there. She can't put herself in a situation where she might have to save someone but can't do it because she can't kill. I agree that her argument is a little strange but I think that's where she is coming from.
To respond to Eric's criticisms...sorry for the long post (I responded to every point he made).
For the record, I feel he has the utmost right to criticize or complain. I even agree with him on certain points...but for the spirit of debate, I will respond to his critique.
First and the big one...the cliffhanger. Now, this is the most controversial moment and biggest criticism of the episode, so Eric is NOT nitpicking or being judgmental...he shares his opinion with the vast majority. I'm in the minority. I didn't mind the cliffhanger. Initially I was upset...but that was about three minutes of frustration, followed by "okay...I get it." First, it's a smart business move. Their ad revenue for the Season 7 opener is going to be the highest in television outside of the Super Bowl. Everyone is going to tune in regardless of whether they're frustrated or not because the closer we get to the date...the more people will stop complaining and instead will be anticipating. It's a perfect bell curve. Second, it fits the story...almost better than if they HAD killed the character on screen. What was the main storyline of Season 6B? Was it Carl becoming a man? Was it Abraham's love triangle with Sasha and Rosita? Was it Daryl's change of attitude or Glenn's readiness to be a father? No. Those were all subplots, but they weren't the main plot. The main plot of season 6B was who is Negan? The season ended where it was meant to. We learned who Negan and the Saviors were, and we now know why we fear him and why we don't cross him. That storyline got resolution. His power in numbers, his brutality, his influence...all were shown in this episode. If they had shown the character's death, all people would be talking about is how much we're going to miss Daryl, or Glenn, or Abraham. When really, they wanted people to talk about how threatening and charismatic Negan is. And say what you want about TWD, they don't kill off major characters needlessly. Before any major character death, that character gets plenty of development. No one character in season 6B got enough development because the focus was on Negan.
Second...Carol. Eric is confused by Carol's motives at this point, and rightfully so. And his analogy of abandoned your kids because you can't kill for them is strong. Except for one thing...Carol is suicidal. She's not just having a change of heart or depressed, she's downright suicidal. And parents DO abandon their kids when they commit suicide. So the analogy doesn't work anymore when you take that into consideration. She thinks she's a monster and she can't live with herself anymore. You might say, "if she's suicidal, why isn't she committing suicide?" Well, this part is downplayed a bit, but Carol is catholic. And her faith prevents her from killing herself because suicide in catholicism is a mortal sin...a one-stop trip to Hell. So what does she do...she ventures out into a world filled with murderers and zombies hoping that someone or something will kill her. At the same time, she's not just going to roll over and die. She wants something to beat her. That why she's happy when that stalking savior has her beat. She's accepted that she's now dead and there's nothing to worry about anymore.
Third...the Kingdom. That complaint seems a little nitpicky, don't you think? They have to set up some storyline for Season 7. "It's weird to the viewer because we don't know who they are". Well, if you remember correctly, Michonne was introduced in the Season 2 finale in a weird way to uninformed fans. A katana-wielding, hooded figure with two pet zombies saves Andrea. You see the connection? That scene out of context is a weird one just like the armored horsemen. They set up season 3 with her character and now she's a fan favorite and same is true for the Kingdom.
Fourth...the whistling. Well that's just personal preference. Some would say it's a creepy war cry. Others, like yourself, will say it's a bit cheesy, over-the-top and not necessary. That one is personal preference and no point in arguing it. It's not real criticism, it's just preference. Moving on.
Fifth...Rick's confidence. Yeah, hard to argue this one. It doesn't make much sense why he's so cocky. After all, he knows first hand that even though he survives each obstacle, someone in his group always dies. It's not like he's thinking their untouchable. After all, how many times can you say Rick's group won? Against Woodbury and the Governor? Sure, the Governor died and Woodbury was destroyed...but the prison was destroyed too...and Herschel died. So at best, we can call that one a tie (0-0-1). Next the claimers...a small threat, but a threat. (1-0-1). Terminus. Okay, that one was a clear win for Rick's group. (2-0-1) And then they make it to Alexandria and there's no more threat til the Saviors. So Rick's record against others is 2-0-1...I don't get why he's so cocky. Maybe he's thinking he's already beaten the Saviors after the night raid. And we slowly start seeing he learns how wrong he was with each new blockade. Maybe he just got so comfortable in Alexandria with his new woman and his town that he feels the hard part is all over, civilization is being recreated. That's the best I can explain it, but fair point.
Sixth...Denise's death. Agreed. Simple. I agree with him on this one. I think Denise leaving to go on the scavenging mission with Daryl and Rosita was a dumb decision wholeheartedly. And yes, it was simply to setup the conflict for the finale. That being said, I really don't care. Every movie, book, series is going to have plot holes or faulty logic if you analyze every aspect. The writers have to tell a story. I think when you look THAT in depth at every character decision, you're trying too hard not to enjoy something. Best I can figure, Denise being behind the walls of Alexandria since the beginning, she doesn't get how dangerous the world is now. Daryl and Rosita tried to explain it to her, poorly, and she didn't get it. She still thinks the world is how it was and we fans know better since we've followed Rick's group on the outside of the walls. She doesn't know better. Either way, it was stupid to risk the doctor and Daryl and Rosita never should have taken her. You say it's not a well-crafted story, I think you're looking for a perfectly crafted story to which there are none. But ultimately I agree that it was dumb and it was to setup this episode.
My bigger complaint was not that Denise would leave Alexandria, but that Daryl didn't know how to drive a stick considering he knows how to work a clutch of a motorcycle. That was stupid, lazy writing for the point of a joke.
Seventh...the Saviors blockade. That's a great point and I didn't think about that. How did they know Rick's group needed a doctor and needed to get to Hilltop. Maybe they knew Denise was the doctor after killing her and sooner or later someone in Alexandria would need a doctor. I guess that was one of those things I suspended my disbelief because that whole scene at the end was so good that I didn't care how implausible the whole scenario was.
Eighth...lazy writing. Once again, you're looking for a PERFECTLY-crafted story, not a well-crafted story. Just from the online community that I've seen is that Season 6B was the best overall half season in the show's run so far. I'd agree. The suspense has been solid, the characters have been likable and developing. The season had so many iconic scenes and shots. But that's me...and the majority. And I know that the majority isn't always right, but neither is the most adverse critic. And just to hear that if Season 7 opener was a Carol/Morgan episode at the Kingdom would make you more pissed shows that you're emotionally invested enough that the writers are doing their job well. Bad shows with lazy writing are boring and predictable. They fall to the waste side after a season or two because fans like you lose interest. Here we are...six seasons in, and you are still emotionally involved enough that you want resolution. Not lazy writing...fantastic writing to keep us interested for as long as we've been.
Anyways, those are some responses to your points. You can see that on some levels I agree with you and on others I just think you're flat out wrong. Please respect that I didn't just say "F*** You! You didn't get it! Stop hating bro!" I see your logic and I hope see mine. A fan who liked what I saw responding to a fan who didn't. Discussion, not arguing.
+Jordan Moore Really good analysis and you back up your opinions well. I think you are spot on about Carol's mindset, and I think it's absolutely on track with her entire character development since season 2. She's been a slowly evolving personal crisis since Sophia died. Other characters have had more obvious and shorter mental breakdowns but for me one of the high points of the show has been the way they depicted what has been going on inside Carol's had. I think some the "Yay Carol's a badass!" fanboys are forgetting nearly everything that's been said, shown or implied in the Carol centric episodes of the last 3 seasons.
Jordan Moore, the type of guy to comment the whole bible on a youtube video :P
I regret pressing read more, goddamn!
Defending this episode? Ew
@@heyzeuscreestow9394 no likes for a reason. Ew
I don't mind cliffhangers. A lot of people these days want instant satisfaction.
+cruman87 Agreed
+cruman87 It still would have been a cliffhanger even showing the death, there was still so much left unknown. Showing it would have just been a payoff for the build-up on the entire episode!! They built up so much tension and did such a good job of it and wasted it. It won't be the same 7 months later
+cruman87 Dexter season 6 has a solid cliff-hanger. This one was undeniably bad.
+hobbes296 Exactly. They built it up the entire backhalf of the season. Everybody knew there was going to be a big death and THAT should have been the end of that arc. Gimple and Kirkman said on Talking Dead, that the current arc ended in this episode and the new one will start with the death in season 7. What a lame justification. They looked uncomfortable on that show, too.
+cruman87 The problem isn't a cliffhanger, it's how they built this last episode up "most emotional ever filmed" and "the best produced". Clearly there were vastly more emotional shows than this one so the expectation is we're going to have to deal with a loss and we prepare for that. It feels like a cheap tactic to not pay that off.
Rick is confident because everytime they faced an enemy, they managed to win. Also, he doesn't know how many Saviors there are out there, for him, they killed most of them, and there certainly is no reason for him to think that after the first encounter on the road, there will be more waiting for them. Also, let's remember that he actually thinks he killed Negan. So basically, there are Saviors out there, but for Rick, there's no leader anymore. They built his confidence all over the years, and this season, he reached a point where he doesn't doubt himself anymore. The world is his to take, and nothing really happened that would make him doubt that. Until that episode.
I love how they broke him down, piece by piece, throughout the episode. That was brilliant !
I loved the episode, and i'm not even mad about the cliffhanger, and I thought i would be. It was still a very intense and emotional episode for me. Seeing them absolutely terrified while the Saviors were playing with them got me all messed up. I also get the idea behind the clifhanger (they could've made a worse one that this one when you think about it) And Negan was way too awesome ! Gotta love JDM.
Eric, the way you analyse and express your views are so great. Very valid points, most of which I have also pondered over. I always wondered where the Saviours suddenly popped up from. They seem in close proximity to Alexandria yet they never seemed to be a threat during the early years with Diana and her husband. The threat they pose seems so contrived. Terrible cliffhanger as well.
as someone who binged the entire season, the ending didn't bother me at all. but I understand the frustration
I also binged and I DON’T understand the complaining.
Also I feel like The Saviors have radios, so with a couple of lookouts placed throughout the woods, they could track the RV and direct people to block off roads, etc. It wouldn't take long to figure out where they were going.
+Jude Miller good point, just like the female saviors had radios a couple of episodes back
Definitely... I also think they're numbers are a bit large that they blocked a few roads they didn't even go down...
you're missing something with carol. She's depressed and suicidal which have given her those feelings. Everything she's done, she can't emotionally manage it anymore.
Q&A: I feel like Rick's over confidence manifested from the massacre that they committed on the Savior Compound and the massacre that Carol committed to the other 2 groups of Saviors, so he basically felt like they conquered Negan's group + he probably felt like he killed Negan when they found Carol and Maggie, anyway without stupid decisions there would be no plot. Just like the Flash's decision to go back in time despite the effects it could have on the future, however I do admit that CW does a better job at masking those decisions with amazing episodes.
Did anybody else think he was going to spray paint 'NWO' on the guy's back?
4Life
I was half-expecting a dickbutt.
Andy Lincoln does deserve all the awards for his acting, especially in this episode.
+DaBaba85 No he can be second after the mighty legend Peter Dinklage
+Robert Kelly oh! But I love them both... How to choose!
This could have been TWD's "Red Wedding".
The build up was good, Jeffrey Dean Morgan was great, the tension was there... and then they fucked it up.
They could've left the viewer devastated like the characters and grieving for months. The impact would've instantly turned Negan into one of the most infamous villains in TV history.
But nope, we've now got half a year to prepare for the death of a character and people will hardly care by the time the show returns.
It's the fuck-up of Glenn's fake death all over again. They dragged that one out for so long, that people stopped caring, it just became annoying.
The most iconic page of the comic is now a 5.8 rated episode on IMDb. Well done.
EDIT: Have I mentioned, that you should do a Penny Dreadful reaction? ;)
EDIT²: The episode is at 5.6 now, with close to 14k votes. Those are fans voting, no casual viewer is going there just to mess with the rating. I hope Gimple & Kirkman will eventually admit that they screwed this up.
Did they admit it ??
+Blind Wave I think Carol did something real messed up related with Maggie's illness,
Thats why she wants to leave to avoid hurting the people she loves because SOMEONE is forcing her or forced her to do it.
Remember that time when she was captured by the saviors along Maggie?
I think Negan made her do it or she would kill them all.
I think that Rick's confidence was born in them overcoming the Wolves, the zombies and the wall falling, the "wins" over the Saviors (train tracks, hwy and base). Now he's probably thinking, "We're thru the worst of it. These Saviors can't handle us." He has NO IDEA how many he's dealing with until they see the various roadblocks. The episode was amazing as you see the groups cockiness drain slowly and then turn to outright terror. Negan was A-MAZING. I was gripped in fear the entire time and just anticipated a violent random swing of Lucille. Then last 10 seconds sucked. We deserved that payoff. Especially after the fake out/ cliffhanger of Glenn and Darryl. Wasted.
Q&A: When re-thinking about the whole season, I noticed that the first half and the second half of the season, specifically the first episode and last one are like antagonist scenarios. Just like at the beginning Ricks group guided the walkers in a specific direction, in the last episode they were the ones guided to a specific location by the Saviours. It might even be a coincidence.. but I would like to hear your thoughts about it.
P.S: In regards to the whistles, I found them quite scary, in fact they (The Saviours) most probably do that to, once again, guide people to where they want them to go.
P.P.S: In case you choose to do the Q&A video and you choose to include my "question", you can call me Citizen of the World, since my nick is in portuguese. Greetings from Portugal btw. You guys are awesome! :)
I was telling my wife at the first road block, they should have driven through those guys. There were only like 7 saviors at that road block and there was enough of a gap that they could have run through and destroyed the back end of that green car. And someone inside the RV could have snuck up to the top of the RV from the inside armed with an automatic weapon to shoot at the saviors while the RV mowed through the road block.
Anyways, much better chance for their survival than to continue through what was an obvious trap.
I think they were just blocking every route out of the area. The group never tried to go back to Alexandria, so the saviors either wanted them back at Alexandria or corralled in the woods. It is a big coincidence on timing for sure.
At the beginning of the mid season premier you see that Rick and the group had become extra comfortable, and they almost forgot what it's like out there.
Unfortunately it feels like The Walking Dead has gotten into a habit of emotional manipulation with gimmicks as opposed to generating real tension with story telling. Twice this season we had fake out Glenn deaths. Then a Daryl fake out death. Now this cliffhanger. It's getting a little ridiculous.
CGCentral HD Poorly presented or not it was still a sad attempt at manipulation in what was also a pretty boring episode IMO.
When they cut through the walker red rover and drove up on like 50 Saviors, I felt legitimately afraid.
Hi, new subscriber here. The question about Saviors knowing they would be on the road has bugged the hell out of me. It doesn't make sense they would know Maggie needed to get to the Hilltop. The only thing that makes sense is that the Saviors expected Rick and his Crew to be out looking for their missing people. Daryl, Rosita, Michonne, and Glen are gone and somebody will come looking for them. But something in the way Trevor from GTA said "Plenty of ways to get where you're going" leads me to think they knew The Hilltop was their destination. Is there a traitor in Alexandria? Spencer? I love your reactions.
Q&A - Do you guys hope they start taking more and more elements from the comic book story? Who do you think was killed? Negan has a personal thing about not killing wounded and women so there is some to take out of the pick.
Q&A are you guys doing fear the walking dead season 2 and where do you think season 7 will pick up from e.g. Weeks later with flashbacks or straight after
Haha Eric I had the exact same reaction as you when the screen cut black, I was so disappointed with the ending
1. The whistle was really creepy and badass to me because it gives you an idea of how many people there really are if they were just quiet that wouldn't scare me to be honest i guess.
2. I think there is either a spy/trader of the groups at Alexandria or Hilltop because if you remember the guy that ambushed Carol on the road knew the exact address of where she came from.
3. The cliffhanger was ok,I don't really care. Just like I seen someone say it's a Season finale not a Series finale,the show will come back,but maybe I don't get the feeling of others completely cause I'm not a comic book reader of TWD but just the show is what I watch.
I like the whistling too
It was a terrific episode up until the end they just ruined the most important scene from the comics everything else was perfect except the cliffhanger..
Like i said i dont completely understand cause i dont read the comics i just watch the show but i get where people are coming from though,like that was everybodys favorite part if they read that comics.
I'm confident that the final scene will play out again during the season 7 premier and we'll get to see everything in all it's gory details. it will have the impact we're looking for
Q&A- how much do you think Negans role in the story will effect Rick? And who do you think Negan killed in the finale?
Carol was saying there are people who you would kill for, who you love so much you will do anything for them. But if you cant, if you cant kill, then all you are is a burden to them. And in this world, someone who cant kill, is a massive danger, so she feels leaving is the best thing she can do to help the people she loves.
They didn't know Rick was trying to go to the Hilltop. They were just blocking off roads trying to herd them toward the spot Negan was at.
Ill say this, when Rick and the gang reached the third blockade with all the trees piled up and you couldn't see any of the The Saviors, but only hear them. that was pretty creepy. Especially when the Leader was like "better get going to where you're going" and the finishing it off with hanging the last of the people held up at the library.
That was a slow build up to their psychological terror.
There's a lot of hints about the Kingdom in this episode ;)
but you see it when that Savior was following Carol
Q&A Who Do You Think Got The Bat? And How Many Seasons Will There Be Of The Walking Dead? Keep Up The Good Work And I Love Your Reactions!
i feel like all the tension that was created is now destroyed, when we find out who it is its not gonna be that big of an impact no more.
I don't mind the cliffhanger, honestly. The cast don't even know who died yet. I feel like they did that to give the episode to Negan instead of who he killed.
+tylerts97 if they killed off a main character that would have said a lot about negan as well.
Completely agree. This was about the introduction to Negan. And tho I was mad at first... I get it.
you guys took you season 6 and 7 full length reactions off before i could watch them are they some were else that I can watch??
If it wasn't for the ending, this would've been my fav season! I'm not mad, im just disappointed we waited all season for this and they make us wait till October. But im not gonna let that cliffhanger decide the whole season. So this is definitely my fav season of TWD. Everyone part of The Walking Dead series whether it is the cast, or the writers or the executive producers, makeup, etc. They all stepped it up to a whole another level this season! Rick looked so terrified, pretty sure he shit his pants. Jeffrey Dean Morgan's take on Negan was AMAZING and not to forget Andrew lincolns acting has been on a whole another level for 6 seasons straight. He's an absolute LEGEND! Everyones acting was phenomenal. Everytime i rewatch that ending my heart goes crazy! In the opening scene of the season 7 premiere, were definitely gonna see who got their head bashed in by Lucille. For me, i think its definitely Glenn who gets it from Negan. Watch this for some proof ua-cam.com/video/5jpzj_A5PAg/v-deo.html or ua-cam.com/video/_AL3UnV5EAo/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/LsjNz9FBsXY/v-deo.html. Also i predict while Rick and the group are dealing with Negan and the Saviors, something bad has happened in Alexandria. Maybe it has been attacked by the Saviors? We'll figure more about it in Season 7. What an amazing season this was! This show always makes my Sundays special and a whole lot more exciting and awesome. Pleasure watching this fantastic season with you, see you all in October :)
+xxdavecz maybe because someone he loves might die?
I don't think they knew they were going to the hilltop I think they just assumed they'd go looking for the ones they'd kidnapped and blocked off all the roads.
They must have assumed that they were gonna go through the woods on foot since they blocked the roads or they made Eugene tell them since they had beat him up.
Q & A - do you think it's a possibility that there could be a traitor in ricks group ? If yes then who? Perhaps carol which is why she feels guilty and wants to leave/die?
I think Rick's confidence came from having everyone survive the herd that when thought Alexandria. He realized at that moment what they could do together to hundreds of walkers, and for Carl to survive gave him hope. It made him realize all that can be done. That being said he obviously underestimated Negan, especially after taking out some of this people. It's gonna be interesting to see if he bounces back and how soon.
They didn't know that Maggie was ill they were probably watching Alexandria and when they saw the RV leave they started to set things up. We know they have two way radios and they certainly have the numbers
Check out Jeremy Jahn's, " What's Really Going On Carol" speculation about Carol
By far the best button smash yet.
Q&A: on your own time you should see Jeremy Jahns theory on carols actions. It's pretty well thought out and might change your opinion on carols story. It did for me
Hahahaha the goldeneye analogy is exactly what I said when I watched that
Q&A Eric,do you think they are actually gonna bring in a tiger next season? Because that shit would be insane
Q&A: Of the people who might have been killed, which do you personally feel would have less of an impact (for both the fans of Walking Dead and the characters in the show)?
+PlasmaBoom Aaron, 4 sure
+PlasmaBoom
It better be someone from season one.
Trevor from GTA 5 is Steven Ogg, He did some work in Better Call Saul as well
Q&A: just curious, who do you think it is that got lucilled. my personally guess is either daryl or glenn.
To Eric's question of how the Saviors know the RV is trying to get to the Hilltop: they get their confirmation from capturing Eugene, allowing them to corner the Alexandrians on foot in the clearing, but I think what gives them their initial suspicion is the fact that 1) everyone at the Satellite Outpost died, and they dealt with Hilltop, 2) at least two groups of Saviors were killed in close proximity to Alexandria (Jiro's group, who Carol kills, and part of Dwight's group who were killed by Daryl/Rosita/Abe/Eugene on the railroad tracks). I take it that as soon as the Saviors discover their Outpost was raided, they immediately blockaded Hilltop from all sides, and as soon as the RV makes contact with Simon/"Trevor from GTA 5" after the latter learns that everyone from the library is dead, Simon radioed the other Saviors to tell them to flank the Alexandrians and set up a blockade in between the RV's current location (where Simon is) and Alexandria itself JUST IN CASE Rick decided they needed to retreat given the new information that there was another armed group in his vicinity.
Long story short: they learned all the pertinent information in pieces, over time, all off-screen, which just adds to their already-considerable mystique and the rolling realization by Rick and crew that this is a much better-organized, larger, and more cutthroat community than they've ever come across.
Scott Gimple's reasoning for the cliffhanger is that this is the end of the story he wants to tell. The point where Rick finally has no control of the situation and is completely defeated, hence why it's not important who died.
This explanation makes NO sense to me. The way issue 100 ended was perfect. Had they shown who died it would've completed the story just as he claims was his intended. We'd have a heartbreaking death. Not only that, but that last panel in the comics had Negan walking away all "Ta-ta" and Rick and co. are still on their knees, in complete shock of what just happened. Seeing that, them still helpless as Negan leaves, was a perfect way of showing that loss of control Gimple claims he was going for. It's disappointing as, even with the changes here and there for the iconic comic book moments, Gimple has actually been pretty good at recreating these iconic moments to TV (such as Carl being shot in the eye). This moment, however, he chose to just skip over. Why?!
My guess is because they want viewers to come back for the next season to find out who died.
If they handled it like the comics I would have felt satisfied with this episode but otherwise it was plain lead up to Negan and the death of a camera man.
+spanishforyou123 Gimple was just bullshitting like usual. Gimple is working for the CEOs at AMC and bringing more ratings and money to the table. Gimple is not working for the viewers unfortunately, viewers like you.
Q&A: Would you consider Carol's story line this season a waste of time for the most part? Do you have better ideas for what the writers could have done with her character?
Eric, Shane will you come back in October for season 7?
My theory with Carol is that maybe she had a situation with Negan while she was away from the group back in Season 4 and because she killed so many of Negans group, she feels that every kill adds more targets on the people of Alexandria. I'm sure they will clarify her story for next season.
I know you guys probably won't read this, But just incase, never stop saying what you're thinking about an episode, that's what I love about you guys. Cause majority of the time, I feel the same way. Plus love the way you guys nail stuff that's gonna happen. I know you didn't do Lost, But do you guys know of any reaction videos on Lost that is good?
The Normies arr currently going through LOST season 1 right now. Highly recommended. Some of us have watch it already but it's not out of the realm of possibility one day
Okay, thank you guys very much.
Q&A: I think the person who got killed was Glenn. If you follow Negan's counting, it ends on Glenn, and Glenn was the only one with a view of the forest.
Rewatching your reactions 🤣🥰🤗
Now Eric knows how I felt after watching their "Game of Thrones S6 Trailer REACTION". Karma? Maybe I'm a bad person, but his annoyance over the cliffhanger made me smile.
Carol's argument is that she just doesn't want to kill anymore and she feels like she can't control it so she feels she has to get away from the people she will kill for or else she may get to a point of no return.
Well Rick and his group has never lost a fight with another group, they beat the Governor, they beat the people at Terminus, they beat the Wolves etc so he was expecting to beat the Saviors too but he underestimated their numbers
In an interview with kirkman, he said the cannibals at Terminus were a faction of Negan's army. They were giving their stuff to him too. That's why they had the same "people herding" tactics by shooting at their feet and drawing them into a capture zone
CruzaderKnight Oh ya, I totally forgot about that tease they did where the Terminus guys had like a mini flashback, I remember at the time people speculated it had something to do with Negan
I cut them some slack on the Carol stuff even though on the surface it seems a bit silly. While she was almost always totally justified when she did kill I think that's still something that would weigh on a person. Police and soldiers generally aren't emotionless when they are forced to take a life, it hits them hard even when it's justified and she has killed quite a few people so that likely magnifies it. She was probably able to hold those emotions in check for a while because they always seemed to be up against something but once they had some down time and life behind the walls started to seem "normal" she was able to think about things. Things like losing her daughter or how she used to be a meek housewife who was abused and made to feel worthless and didn't feel like she could protect herself to someone who feels a ton of pressure to protect everyone around her.
I may be wrong but it seemed like things got worse for her mentally after Tobin told her she was like "everyone's mom" that probably busted open the emotional floodgates that had been suppressing all of the guilt she had been feeling. Anyway that's how I try to justify the writing, I could totally be wrong but that's how I'm taking the story. If I didn't think about it that way I'd probably just be pissed off at them for making one of the strongest characters seem so weak all of the sudden lol.
I'm mad at the scene, it was perfect I thought the buildup was great. Cliffhanger ruined it.
it felt like a placeholder for the final decision from amc
The way I see it, it's not that Carol juts decides to not care about the people closest to her, it's more like, she still cares, but the realization of how many people she has killed, and the entirety of the things she has had to do to survive just came rushing and hit her like a tsunami, and all of that outweighs any reasoning she might be capable of at that moment, so, regardless of what she's saying, she's acting on pure emotion right now, 'cos what she's doing is devoid of all logic.
Q&A - Dwight & Jesus
Do you guys think that with such a huge cast and many main characters, new ones like Dwight and Jesus won't have as big of roles in season 7 as you would think, that there's a risk they'll disappear most of the time?
Q&A Do you think the Cliffhanger ending was because the writers are not sure if they want to go directly again from the comics and maybe have a different character die instead at the hands of Negan?
Carol feels that she can't kill anymore because she's done with it all. She feels that if she sticks around with the group she will have to kill as she won't have any other choice, despite the fact she doesn't want to kill anymore. She also feels that she will be putting the group in danger by staying around. I can see Carol possibly taking her own life (as in the comics) if Morgan is unable to talk her around, looks like they are heading to the kingdom anyway, so who knows.
The savers corral the survivors (you can't bring the farm to the cow, bring the cow to the farm) in the woods you can see the the savers pushing the survivors to the ambush point\RV
You don't need to know where they want to go, if you control where they can go aka the roads
you forgot about Gregory.
he could have told them as a way to get back into his good gracies
And tarah and that other guy are still out on that run or whatever too. I have a feeling they wont even say who died. We may start off with tarahs adventures and all that shit. And a epiosde of morgan and carol meeting the kingdom, and maybe back story episode on negans group. All before they will show us who died. Kinda like they did with glen wasnt it like 4 episodes after that we finally saw glen
The people behind this show are too aware of it's audience and seem more concern about pulling one over on them rather than proper storytelling. They're just fucking with us. I agree with Eric, as a comic reader I am upset that they robbed tv viewers of this experience. Is it arguably THE biggest moment of the comics. I was looking forward to seeing people's reaction to this impactful scene and they ruined it. All that tension, all that dread. Gone. There's no way they can go back to fix that.
I mean, the thought of them even considering deviating from the comics for this particular moment bugs me. #whoisit shouldn't even be a discussion, as there is only one clear choice that will not only effect the audience in an significant way, but the story as well. Change all you want about other parts of the comics, but this one right here is not one of those parts.
Q&A - 1) how do you think Rick (and the group) will react to Morgan and Carol if/when they meet again.
2) will Rick blame Daryl and Rosita for Denise's death, which ultimately forcee the group into meeting Negan?
I agreed with everything you said, Eric. There were so many good things about this episode, but that cliffhanger shat all over the whole thing.
Q&A
Do you think they should hire Andy Serkis to do MoCap for Shiva next season? lol
The Saviors are like the Ducky Boys in "The Wanderers". :)
I think Rick was so confident because they wiped out part of Negans group and thought he killed Negan. So he was the Alpha. Then soon realizes he isn't.
Also I think the whistling was to let the bigger group know how close they were so they knew where to lead and when to turn on the headlights and all that.
Oh god, deconstructing the Saviors and their strategy gives so many funny scenarios.
Negan: "Ok, once you get the fuckers here, I will hide in the RV to make my grand entrance. Meanwhile, all of you gather around and as they are running in, start whisling that tune we all practiced."
Random Savior no. 1: "Oh shit."
Random Savior no. 2: "What?"
Random Savior no. 1: "I can't whistle!"
Random Savior no.2: "Come on. They told us this mission is entirely whistling based. Why did you come?"
Random Savior no.1: "I don't know, I though they were just kidding."
Negan: "And if some of you shits tells me he can't whistle, I'm gonna burn half of his face off!"
"Random Savior no. 2: "Damnit Larry, you are in for it now."
Random Savior no. 1: "Well, maybe I can just like, pucker my lips and pretend. No way the bossman will be able to tell."
Random Savior no. 3: "Fuck you, Larry, I am already planning to do that."
Random Savior no. 1: "You can't whistle too?"
Random Savior no. 2: "You fuckers, dont tell me I will turn out to be the only one who can whistle. I get anxiety when performing alone in front of a crowd."
Negan: "Shut the fuck up everyone, they are coming and I need to hide so they don't see me until it's the most tense. Start whistling. Now!" *runs into the RV*
+Vilkku this will be a deleted scene on the bluray
initially i was very pissed about the ending but after a while of thinking about it i realized why they did it. and it made me a bit less angry about it. but i still believe they should of ended it with the brutal death and Negan just walking away or something like that.
PS that last POV scene was awesome to see just left me with blue balls
When are the new Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Arrow reactions going to be up?
The whistling honestly freaked me out.
Eric do you think that that the person who died in the comics, also died here?
Trevor was in an episode of Better Call Saul
2:23 Trevor Phillips Industries! :D
Q&A - What's your favorit season of The Walking Dead?
It's very rare I get worried by a tv show but I did when Negan showed up. He is so awesome and terrifying.
+Jarrod Watson he was indeed. JDM knocked it out of the park.
You're forgetting about the kidnapped people. If Maggie wasn't sick they would've left to go look for Michonne and Daryl and those and that is what the saviors were expecting. That's why they left the clues on the walkers. Yes, Denise's death was a plot device to get Maggie outside of the walls so that she could go through this with Glenn. And Aaron went because Maggie was going. Everybody else would have been in that RV or truck or whatever going to help Rick look for Glenn and Daryl and the others.
Trevor from GTA 5 is great.
Yeah gta is great what does that have to do with them reacting to walking dead?
The voice actor for Trevor was the savior that Rick was talking too on the first roadblock.