This feature and the 1/2 page turn are great options. I play the double bass and I find that I still need a pedal because of where I need the music stand to see the other players or the conductor but I’ll use the gestures at home practicing.
Thank you for the Demo! A question: I am also playing organ i church and I sing along with the hymns. How do you think that will affect the hands-free page turning? Kind redards /Andreas from Sweden
Hello Andreas! Sorry for my delayed response. It's possible that your singing could trigger the page turns, however, it might work just fine. I don't sing when I am at the organ, and so I am not sure how it would work out. However, I do hear that you can also wink one eye instead and I imagine that would work well. If there was any issue, you could always disable the auto page turning when you sing and re enable when you play a piece with multiple pages.
Thank you. I would like to see more videos about forScore 13, as I did not upgrade to this version myself, as I did not like everything there. I would like to see if the features in Settings > Gestures have changed. Have they added gestures and additional actions for them etc. And also what the application looks like if you open two instances of the application side by side in Split View mode. They say that the secondary window in this mode has received a completely new design.
I will do a video at some point soon explaining ForScore generally, and if I get a chance, some of the features added in 13. In my opinion, version 13 wasn’t that big of a change for me. I haven’t yet looked into the gestures. The side by side feature is cool, but seems mostly intended for use on the Mac with a second monitor. I wouldn’t use it at all on the 11 inch iPad; however, the 12.9 inch iPad might work well, depending on how your music is laid out. You can also use the second window as a separate full screen instance of ForScore, but it doesn’t have access to all of the same features (no set lists for example). The secondary window can search and do some basic things, and it has the same view settings, but it doesn’t function as a second copy of the app.
Didn't know this existed. Super happy to have found your video. Just tried it and it's fantastic. Don't have to worry about a Bluetooth turner now. Works great in my situation.
Buenas tardes. Podría ayudarme diciéndome que modelos de Ipad Pro 12.9 son compatibles con los cambios de página con gestos faciales? Desde ya muchas gracias y felicitaciones por su gran trabajo. Saludos.
Thanks so much for this great video. I've been looking for something like this and it felt like I found the holy grail! I just bought forScore and upgraded to Pro so I could use the facial gestures -- the mouth movement gesture works great for me right out of the box, although as you said it will take a bit of practice to internalize that. You mentioned that you're planning on doing a video at some point explaining ForScore generally -- as a newbie to the app I sure would love to see that. Thanks again! (PS -- I just subscribed to your channel and looking forward to checking out your other videos.)
@@FlexLessons That's great news -- much appreciated! I'm subscribed to your channel, so I'll hear about it once you release it. I've been adding my scores to forScore and it's going well, but there's a lot to learn. Sometimes it's hard to find how to do something that seems like it should be a no brainer. I'm about to edit my first score that contains multiple repeats with a DS and Coda, so we'll see how that goes. Definitely a very cool concept! I'm so happy with this program...
Great video, and this puzzled me why ForScore Pro can do such excellent thing. Then I found it not because of ForScore. It is in the Ipad itself, called Accessibility. We have it already without ForScore. Ipad installed it for the handicapped. And because most of us are normal, we don't even feel the need to look into this feature. Accessibility - Switches and Recipes.
budiprabowo5979, can you describe a little bit better how to utilize this feature with switches and recipes? I don't have an ipad pro 12.9 but am looking into it for sheet music. Can you use another gesture like winking?
Hi: Thank you for that. Very interesting. My question is, I am a singer/pianist so my mouth is moving all the time as I sing the words of songs that I am playing. Would those mouth movements initiate turning a page? Thank you, Ken
Good question. It depends on how animated you are, how sensitive the calibration is (which you can choose), and how good the lighting is. If I was singing a lot, I may be tempted to not use this feature.
@@DenScan When you calibrate the mouth gesture, just wink instead. Wink with your right eye to turn page forward, then your left to turn page back. Although it is billed as mouth gesture, you can use any facial move. I hit on this by accident, and it works very well for my use case.
That may be a situation where you need to use a button link to go to where you want. Alternatively, if you must be hands off, you can duplicate pages so that the piece can be front to back with repeats built in. I have made use of both of these suggestions.
This video is actually dedicated to explaining this...I am using a face gesture (moving my mouth slightly) and the camera on the iPad recognizes this and turns the page.
I have a 2018 iPad which has the high depth camera but I cannot get the score to go to portrait view and since it’s a 9 in screen, I can’t read it in landscape format. Does this mean I need to buy a 12 in iPad?
The 9 inch screen shouldn't be interfering with the portrait view. Double tap your main screen in the center and play with the view options until it displays portrait mode properly.
Do you still use the Logitech Brio overhead? Mine is quite warped in comparison to yours if you do. It has an exaggerated fisheye effect on mine. Maybe it’s a bootleg? Or any tips?
I do! I have my camera on 78 degree mode, which gets rid of that effect. You can do that through the Logitech camera software (might be called “Tune” now).
@@FlexLessons thank you! I also had the keyboard positioned towards the edge of the camera which had more warping. Now that I’ve centered it, the warping is gone
Pretty much any iPad can run the app. However, you have to have an iPad that has the True Depth camera to get the facial gesture based page turning. If you have a 2018 iPad Pro or newer, you likely have it.
I tried working with the options . No go. I want to be sure before I shell out $. For a 12 inch. Is the support at Forscore good about answering questions?
hi i got a 2018 ipad pro 12.9 and for some reason all of a sudden the load time when i start of the app is like 30 seconds frozen screen before i can use or click anything on forscore. any idea how to fix it? I restarted ipad, updated ipad, updated forscore, restarted ipad again same problem persist.
@@FlexLessons i did! I contacted support! Im afraid if reinstall it i lose all my sheets. I got my back up files but not sure how it works and if it jusy boots up wat i got now
I’ve just bought forScore pro to test this option. This is very risky and too sensitive for me. It changes the pages when undesired also. Imagine being inspired by the music and the machine reacts to your unconscious face movements. It s no for me eventually.
You can adjust the sensitivity but keep in mind it works best in good lighting. It took a bit of practice to get this to the point where I could rely on it in public, and since I am usually using an organ with pedals, this was my only alternative to having someone turn pages or have music posted up all over the music rack. With that said, I totally understand your hesitation. Thanks for the comment.
@@FlexLessons I understand but I’ve been practicing the page turns till today even and It totally disturbs my concentration and inspiration. I think this can be adequate for calm pieces but not for virtuosic pieces. I am currently playing Iberia and these pieces are too complicated to be able to think of two things at the same time. Anyway, thanks for the review though.
I agree with that. In fact, virtuosic pieces should be memorized. This is better for working on music such as chamber music or things used in church settings.
@@FlexLessons It is the very idea of renting what you should own. Serfdom should be minimized if not eliminated in a free, capitalist society. That said, I see they offer a purchase version, albeit a dumbed down version.
@lawrencediggs7957 I totally get that. Many companies are abusing this. However, continued development is required for software to continue to work with major OS releases, and without some sort of sub or fee, devs would have to work for free to keep things working, which is sort of like “serfdom in reverse”.
@@FlexLessons When they fix their mistakes problems with their work, updates, that should be free. If they add new features they should make it a chargeable upgrade purchase.
This feature and the 1/2 page turn are great options. I play the double bass and I find that I still need a pedal because of where I need the music stand to see the other players or the conductor but I’ll use the gestures at home practicing.
The title of the video got my attention, but your artistry with Brahms was by far the coolest thing about it. Thank you!
Thank you for saying that!
Thank you for such helpful info. Looking for your other videos now.
Thank you for the Demo! A question: I am also playing organ i church and I sing along with the hymns. How do you think that will affect the hands-free page turning?
Kind redards /Andreas from Sweden
Hello Andreas! Sorry for my delayed response. It's possible that your singing could trigger the page turns, however, it might work just fine. I don't sing when I am at the organ, and so I am not sure how it would work out. However, I do hear that you can also wink one eye instead and I imagine that would work well. If there was any issue, you could always disable the auto page turning when you sing and re enable when you play a piece with multiple pages.
Didn’t knew this feature. Will try ASAP
thanks for the video! just what i needed for my piano videos!!❤❤❤
You're welcome 😊
Thank you. I would like to see more videos about forScore 13, as I did not upgrade to this version myself, as I did not like everything there. I would like to see if the features in Settings > Gestures have changed. Have they added gestures and additional actions for them etc. And also what the application looks like if you open two instances of the application side by side in Split View mode. They say that the secondary window in this mode has received a completely new design.
I will do a video at some point soon explaining ForScore generally, and if I get a chance, some of the features added in 13. In my opinion, version 13 wasn’t that big of a change for me. I haven’t yet looked into the gestures. The side by side feature is cool, but seems mostly intended for use on the Mac with a second monitor. I wouldn’t use it at all on the 11 inch iPad; however, the 12.9 inch iPad might work well, depending on how your music is laid out. You can also use the second window as a separate full screen instance of ForScore, but it doesn’t have access to all of the same features (no set lists for example). The secondary window can search and do some basic things, and it has the same view settings, but it doesn’t function as a second copy of the app.
Didn't know this existed. Super happy to have found your video. Just tried it and it's fantastic. Don't have to worry about a Bluetooth turner now. Works great in my situation.
It's such a nice solution to page turning. I am glad you discovered it!
Thank you!
Happy to help!
The iPad app called KeyScore will use the iPad’s mic to listen to you play and turn the page for you. As of 2024/01 was free.
Thank you for the demo..So cool. 😊
Buenas tardes. Podría ayudarme diciéndome que modelos de Ipad Pro 12.9 son compatibles con los cambios de página con gestos faciales? Desde ya muchas gracias y felicitaciones por su gran trabajo. Saludos.
Cualquier iPad Pro después de 2018, así como los nuevos iPad Air. No estoy seguro de si hay otros.
Very helpful! Amazing feature.
Great Video! Thank you. I'll give it a try
Excellent review of this set up and lovely playing! Thanks for the pro tip!
Thank you!
Thanks so much for this great video. I've been looking for something like this and it felt like I found the holy grail! I just bought forScore and upgraded to Pro so I could use the facial gestures -- the mouth movement gesture works great for me right out of the box, although as you said it will take a bit of practice to internalize that. You mentioned that you're planning on doing a video at some point explaining ForScore generally -- as a newbie to the app I sure would love to see that. Thanks again! (PS -- I just subscribed to your channel and looking forward to checking out your other videos.)
Awesome! I do still plan to do a ForScore walkthrough at some point.
@@FlexLessons That's great news -- much appreciated! I'm subscribed to your channel, so I'll hear about it once you release it. I've been adding my scores to forScore and it's going well, but there's a lot to learn. Sometimes it's hard to find how to do something that seems like it should be a no brainer. I'm about to edit my first score that contains multiple repeats with a DS and Coda, so we'll see how that goes. Definitely a very cool concept! I'm so happy with this program...
So I Am Guessing That The Camera Is Aimed At You & The Slightest movement Triggers The Page Turn?
Yep although you can choose how sensitive it is. I play very reliably without a page turner using this feature.
Great video, and this puzzled me why ForScore Pro can do such excellent thing. Then I found it not because of ForScore. It is in the Ipad itself, called Accessibility. We have it already without ForScore. Ipad installed it for the handicapped. And because most of us are normal, we don't even feel the need to look into this feature. Accessibility - Switches and Recipes.
Wow! Didn’t know that. Regardless, I am happy to support the ForScore folks.
budiprabowo5979, can you describe a little bit better how to utilize this feature with switches and recipes? I don't have an ipad pro 12.9 but am looking into it for sheet music. Can you use another gesture like winking?
Hi: Thank you for that. Very interesting. My question is, I am a singer/pianist so my mouth is moving all the time as I sing the words of songs that I am playing. Would those mouth movements initiate turning a page? Thank you, Ken
Good question. It depends on how animated you are, how sensitive the calibration is (which you can choose), and how good the lighting is. If I was singing a lot, I may be tempted to not use this feature.
@@FlexLessons Thanks for replying.
I found the mouth gestures didn't always work, especially in a darkened organ loft. I changed the gesture to a wink and it works perfectly.
The wink option is new to me! The lighting does need to be good for the mouth gestures to work well.
Ummm, wink gestures? There's no information at all about wink gestures in forScore. Can you elaborate?
@@DenScan When you calibrate the mouth gesture, just wink instead. Wink with your right eye to turn page forward, then your left to turn page back. Although it is billed as mouth gesture, you can use any facial move.
I hit on this by accident, and it works very well for my use case.
@@AdrianEarnshawMusic That is ***SO*** cool! Going to try that right now. Thanks so much!
@@DenScan if you cannot get it to work, let me know and I will see if I can put some instructions together.
How are you jumping when you encounter repeats, D.S. al Coda, etc.?
That may be a situation where you need to use a button link to go to where you want. Alternatively, if you must be hands off, you can duplicate pages so that the piece can be front to back with repeats built in. I have made use of both of these suggestions.
Please explain "AUTO TURN" for Fourscore?? Set the pages to turn based on your playing speed of the piece???
This video is actually dedicated to explaining this...I am using a face gesture (moving my mouth slightly) and the camera on the iPad recognizes this and turns the page.
What type of piano is that? I love the sound!
This is a Yamaha U3. I’m glad you like the sound!
@@FlexLessons i kinda guessed! My favorite brand👍
I use a Yamaha C3 now, which is quite a step up! @@danculp4057
I have a 2018 iPad which has the high depth camera but I cannot get the score to go to portrait view and since it’s a 9 in screen, I can’t read it in landscape format. Does this mean I need to buy a 12 in iPad?
The 9 inch screen shouldn't be interfering with the portrait view. Double tap your main screen in the center and play with the view options until it displays portrait mode properly.
Do you still use the Logitech Brio overhead? Mine is quite warped in comparison to yours if you do. It has an exaggerated fisheye effect on mine. Maybe it’s a bootleg? Or any tips?
I do! I have my camera on 78 degree mode, which gets rid of that effect. You can do that through the Logitech camera software (might be called “Tune” now).
@@FlexLessons thank you! I also had the keyboard positioned towards the edge of the camera which had more warping. Now that I’ve centered it, the warping is gone
Hey that works well.
What are you using for your overhead shot? Just curious
In this case, I am using a Logitech Brio.
That is so cool! My luck I'd get an itch ;)
Haha...it takes some practice to control the page turning well.
Does it turn pages vertically or horizontally?
However you have the pages arranged, it will turn them.
@@FlexLessons Good...
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Hello :) My quesiton is can i join two ipads and someone backstage turn the pages for me from the second one? Thank you very much
I believe you can join two iPads together using forScore but I am not sure about the remote page turning.
I have a iPad Pro 15.4 . Is that sufficient for the Forscore app?
Pretty much any iPad can run the app. However, you have to have an iPad that has the True Depth camera to get the facial gesture based page turning. If you have a 2018 iPad Pro or newer, you likely have it.
I tried working with the options . No go. I want to be sure before I shell out $. For a 12 inch. Is the support at Forscore good about answering questions?
@@suzleslie1 yes they are good. My wife has a 9 inch iPad and it works great for her, even in portrait.
Nice. You have other forScore and watching…. I am frustrated
Why are you frustrated?
Que programa similar hay para Windows y Android ?
No creo que haya uno (I don't think there is one.)
What if an accidental page turn is triggered and you want to quickly go back to the page you were on?
You just signal in the opposite direction.
hi i got a 2018 ipad pro 12.9 and for some reason all of a sudden the load time when i start of the app is like 30 seconds frozen screen before i can use or click anything on forscore. any idea how to fix it?
I restarted ipad, updated ipad, updated forscore, restarted ipad again
same problem persist.
Hmm...have you tried reinstalling Forscore? You might want to reach out to them, especially of that is the only app that is doing that.
@@FlexLessons i did! I contacted support! Im afraid if reinstall it i lose all my sheets. I got my back up files but not sure how it works and if it jusy boots up wat i got now
You need to make a backup with an archive. Look on their site for information on how to do that.
@@FlexLessons is that creating a back up and saving it on my googledrive?
Does that work?
@@bubbaXzone You can save it where ever you want...but you must create an archive (not a backup) to protect your sheet music files.
iPad air doesn't have truedepth camera.
You are right! I didn’t realize that.
I’ve just bought forScore pro to test this option. This is very risky and too sensitive for me. It changes the pages when undesired also. Imagine being inspired by the music and the machine reacts to your unconscious face movements. It s no for me eventually.
You can adjust the sensitivity but keep in mind it works best in good lighting. It took a bit of practice to get this to the point where I could rely on it in public, and since I am usually using an organ with pedals, this was my only alternative to having someone turn pages or have music posted up all over the music rack. With that said, I totally understand your hesitation. Thanks for the comment.
@@FlexLessons I understand but I’ve been practicing the page turns till today even and It totally disturbs my concentration and inspiration. I think this can be adequate for calm pieces but not for virtuosic pieces. I am currently playing Iberia and these pieces are too complicated to be able to think of two things at the same time. Anyway, thanks for the review though.
I agree with that. In fact, virtuosic pieces should be memorized. This is better for working on music such as chamber music or things used in church settings.
@@FlexLessons totally. I just wanted a tool to feel secure but in fact the truth is that one must rely on oneself.
I just realized I close one eye sometimes when I play LOL oops
Haha. So maybe the eye thing won’t work for you!
Just say no to subscription software.
I actually don't mind developers supporting themselves through small subscriptions like this.
@@FlexLessons It is the very idea of renting what you should own. Serfdom should be minimized if not eliminated in a free, capitalist society.
That said, I see they offer a purchase version, albeit a dumbed down version.
@lawrencediggs7957 I totally get that. Many companies are abusing this. However, continued development is required for software to continue to work with major OS releases, and without some sort of sub or fee, devs would have to work for free to keep things working, which is sort of like “serfdom in reverse”.
@@FlexLessons When they fix their mistakes problems with their work, updates, that should be free. If they add new features they should make it a chargeable upgrade purchase.
Seriously, 6 minutes before you go into setting? You read to us???
An awful lot of words; too much playing and not enough how to.