@@sad_wrangler8515 Unfortunately, that is difficult to say. I have had several engines with 200,000 to 300,000 km on the counter and over 30 years old with the original gear set. But I have also heard stories that they broke down on cars that were 5 years old. Not really an answer that you can use, probably. But there are sets for sale with an aluminum gear. They will never break down.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see the inside of the engine my Dad's cars used to have 40 years ago ... ! I like how the single central camshaft goes in at 0:50
i thought the 2.8's had 3 exaust ports per head.im pretty sure the 2.6 had 2 per head.at least the US versions.my 1st car was a 75 mustang 2 2.8. 4 speed.with 3.55 gears would pull to 5k rpms 100 mph in 4th.had to put 2.79's in to commute back & forth to tech school.saved a ton of gas money & engine wear.was a great little car.
Hello here in Europe the 2.8 also had 2 exhaust ports per cylinder head. Which is not ideal, of course. But I recently found out they had 3 in the USA. Here the 2.8 with k-jetronic in the Capri with 160 hp was the fastest. Later came the 2.9 which had 3 exhaust ports per cylinder head.
We had a 2.6 Capri with three, and my Euro 2.8 from I know not which model (someone fitted it into a Willys), as all those 2.8s, has the siamesed exhaust. Supposedly this enhanced compatibility of some sort, but the early ones had a block in the water jacket (not yet drilled in production) that created a hot spot there. Later ones as I'm told remedied this. One can use a later head gasket to spot the proper holes and drill these to get the cooling happening in that spot. Relatively impossible to find parts here now. Even the Felpro engine gasket set, a totally common deal for any engine, is NLA though still in their catalog (the individuals can be pieced together). Aftermarket stuff is ok- like who'd hot rod a Grenada before, anyway?- but that little niche has some goodies; it's the stock stuff that's dried up considerably.
@@teecell-io2wh Here (in Europe) you can still buy a complete gasket set from Victor Reinz at the better car parts store. And the bearings and piston rings too. So that makes it easy. At Burton Power you can have your camshaft grinded. And they sell a timing gear set made of aluminum/steel. They also sell stainless steel exhaust valves so you can drive on unleaded gasoline.
@@watermillroadsgarage Stop tempting me!!! After starting with my D7 Bantam all over Kansas (they still had that prehistoric stuff called 2-stroke oil aplenty back then), I was mulling over this sad old Willy's that someone chopped the box off most unceremoniously. Fabbed one up and then saw some maniacs careening those Volvo 544s, no doubt protos of m21 tanks that clogged showrooms after the War, through the woods with reckless abandon. Hey- if they can push the envelope of total nonsense... I've got a place in the woods too, and reckless? We're on! Now have all the driving lights it'll fit. Off to the hardware for plumbing to cob up these 911 carbs...
damn, i have a 2.9 and replaced thea haedgaskets etc, no cracks in the head and i still have a coolant leak into the engine, do you have any ideas where i could look into?
@@watermillroadsgarage the water channels hmm... i will look into that but i guess if theres a gasket leak or something coolant would also drip on the outside of the pump, what about the silver cap you put on in 1:24? ive heard they rust through and coolant would go in that way, you think thats possible?
@@mischi9203 Then it would end up at the flywheel and the clutch, not in the oil. Do you also have an oil/water cooler between the oil filter 2:47? Maybe it's leaking.
Подскажите пожалуйста, как смазывается подшипникua-cam.com/video/LDm75JySM5Q/v-deo.html, возле шестерни спидометра? И одинаковые ли пружины впускных и выпускных клапанов?
@@darrellbanks4998 I think you are confused with the 2.9 which does have 3 exhaust ports per cylinder head. But it also has a timing chain instead of gears.
Yes, to make it look original. What a shame to spend so much time and money on one of the worst engines ever built to drive. A modified pinto much better choice.
It's a shame it would have been way ahead of it's time and is more reliable then a timing chain and you know it. If it was designed better a V8 version I'd be very happy and not disappointed in owning a V8 tank and not neoprene as a stock timing gear or chain as factory. Car companies know it's ways to make money from you it blows up you got to buy another after warranty is up that's why car companies know how to aid your engine to death by it's flaws they made factory. I'd say every car is designed to break something to make the motor company money.
@@nickolasedmunds I'm sorry and you are wrong. That piece of crap called cologne V6 derivated from taunus v4 when they build it they won't add more exhaust ports to the the heads to fit ford taunus chasis. With 6 inlets and 4 outlets that heads are worst. So we got head cracks when you passed 5.500 constantly. This engine was sh*t and best use for boat anchor. Any pinto with some carb update will produce more power than this engine. I own one, I sped too much and got nothing. And yes while you spending time to chase new heads you crank will stay there.
@@delifisektuxedo I can tell you I'm not wrong by experience either way and about the gear driven timing how reliable it is and I think that's what I'm talking about mostly. I got one of these pos engines I modded the head and put extra coolant holes also to help the crack issues mods help I'm dumping money all 50 bucks it's a Ford and all horrible happens they should of kept it dura sparked. The american engine I got lasted since 1985 I think it's fine it's wore it's piston rings out still runs 🤯 but... nothing beats a V8 with all the damn parts produced real cheap here and they can work they got gear driven timing also so that's cool for a pretty pennie it's loud though. Parts are getting less and less with the cologne most people prob gonna swap anyways now. In america the Ford Cologne V6 besides Chevrolet the cologne it's the only carbed V6 Ford has here that I know of stock and without it mods wouldn't be possible like a holly efi and I'm thankful for that. If they made a better version of the V6 american designed, Better heads like a normal v6 with holly performance efi it would be cool but for now Chevrolet probably wins because and parts availability for Chevrolet is better. I like my fords but damn history is lacking for the better word. Atleast it lasted longer then the Chevrolet Vega lol keep me posted.
I see it for what it is a V6 most cars have one if there a sedan ha in a truck I guess it's supposed to be economical for it's time. It's taken a long time for me to get good mpg for mine a float adjustment, Idle adjustment for my china 2150 300 cfm carb which for my jets they're #50 and all 1.0 turn out she is great smooth as a kitten purring hot tho I have to use 1200-1500 rpm of chokes high idle setting to help it warm for 2 to 3 minutes then she's a happy camper. I've yet to buy a holly sniper 2300 yet. She's a great engine to learn off because she's finicky and teaches you and otherwise fights you.
@@nickolasedmunds You living in USA and choose that engine for what ? Being different ?. Yes timing gears are so reilable even engine blows up you got that timing gear. Other than that its a piece of crap. Even 2.9 Cosworth bob is just 200 hp. Even a dodge slant 6 much much better engine. Perhaps 4.0 ohc may be better engine. In europe you swap your v6 with ford pinto (not american one) 2.0 liter with weber 38/38 and modified cam. You got 150. That v6 never got that what ever you do. Plus heads going to crack one way or another. And pint much lighter engine. In short it was good boat anchor.
no, and i wouldn't want to. it only made 91 or 117 hp in us, and wikipedia says it doesn't tune well due to siamesed ports. ideal media put it on their "worst engines" list for bad timing chains and my friend's dad had one that died young. idk, to each their own@@Momo-gi9rk
To be honest, I don't understand what some people have against this engine. It drives well, lots of torque at the bottom end. Simple to maintain. And sounds great.
I have the 4.0L OHV Cologne V6 in a 1995 Ranger and it went 300,000 miles before the heater bypass valve exploded and spit all the coolant out on a 35C day. Unfortunately after that it cracked the cylinder head between the valves in two cylinders. I tossed on a replacement bank 1 cylinder head, had the bank 2 head planed, threw in fresh rings, rod bearings, cleaned the hydraulic lifters, and I now have another 20,000 miles on the truck. My only real complaint was the hydraulic roller lifters (which weren't a thing on the early 2.6/2.8 versions) had very small passages that can get gummed up without regular oil changes.
The camshaft gear was often broke because it was made of plastic. I have repair this V6 engines in the 80s so much.
Yes, the fiber teeth often broke off. There are steel/aluminium sets for sale, which I also installed in the video.
@@watermillroadsgarage Do you know the typical lifetime, when it broke? Thank you a lot, if you take the time to answer.
@@sad_wrangler8515 Unfortunately, that is difficult to say. I have had several engines with 200,000 to 300,000 km on the counter and over 30 years old with the original gear set. But I have also heard stories that they broke down on cars that were 5 years old. Not really an answer that you can use, probably. But there are sets for sale with an aluminum gear. They will never break down.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see the inside of the engine my Dad's cars used to have 40 years ago ... !
I like how the single central camshaft goes in at 0:50
Muy bien ,me funciono, aprendi
Awesome job, im just about to remove and rebuild a 2.8 from an 87 Capri brooklands 280. Is that colour you painted the engine Ford Riviera blue?
Hello, I used Rustoleum 2184 steel gray (RAL7001). It is not the original color but it was the closest I could find at the time.
Love it! This video makes it seem no curse words were said during this rebuild
I see that you had an oil cooler mounted between the oil filter and the engine do you have a part number for it?
Ford: 84TM 6B856 AA and/or Modine 3.743.011
Salut my friend super car super ...
do parts of this engine also fit the 2.3 v6?
Many parts fit but not everything.If that helps.
Well put together video. I like the color.
i thought the 2.8's had 3 exaust ports per head.im pretty sure the 2.6 had 2 per head.at least the US versions.my 1st car was a 75 mustang 2 2.8. 4 speed.with 3.55 gears would pull to 5k rpms 100 mph in 4th.had to put 2.79's in to commute back & forth to tech school.saved a ton of gas money & engine wear.was a great little car.
Hello here in Europe the 2.8 also had 2 exhaust ports per cylinder head. Which is not ideal, of course. But I recently found out they had 3 in the USA. Here the 2.8 with k-jetronic in the Capri with 160 hp was the fastest. Later came the 2.9 which had 3 exhaust ports per cylinder head.
We had a 2.6 Capri with three, and my Euro 2.8 from I know not which model (someone fitted it into a Willys), as all those 2.8s, has the siamesed exhaust. Supposedly this enhanced compatibility of some sort, but the early ones had a block in the water jacket (not yet drilled in production) that created a hot spot there. Later ones as I'm told remedied this. One can use a later head gasket to spot the proper holes and drill these to get the cooling happening in that spot. Relatively impossible to find parts here now. Even the Felpro engine gasket set, a totally common deal for any engine, is NLA though still in their catalog (the individuals can be pieced together). Aftermarket stuff is ok- like who'd hot rod a Grenada before, anyway?- but that little niche has some goodies; it's the stock stuff that's dried up considerably.
@@teecell-io2wh Here (in Europe) you can still buy a complete gasket set from Victor Reinz at the better car parts store. And the bearings and piston rings too. So that makes it easy. At Burton Power you can have your camshaft grinded. And they sell a timing gear set made of aluminum/steel. They also sell stainless steel exhaust valves so you can drive on unleaded gasoline.
@@watermillroadsgarage Stop tempting me!!! After starting with my D7 Bantam all over Kansas (they still had that prehistoric stuff called 2-stroke oil aplenty back then), I was mulling over this sad old Willy's that someone chopped the box off most unceremoniously. Fabbed one up and then saw some maniacs careening those Volvo 544s, no doubt protos of m21 tanks that clogged showrooms after the War, through the woods with reckless abandon. Hey- if they can push the envelope of total nonsense...
I've got a place in the woods too, and reckless? We're on!
Now have all the driving lights it'll fit. Off to the hardware for plumbing to cob up these 911 carbs...
TOP !!
damn, i have a 2.9 and replaced thea haedgaskets etc, no cracks in the head and i still have a coolant leak into the engine, do you have any ideas where i could look into?
Maybe the water channels that you see at approximately 1:00? When you are sure the head is not cracked.
@@watermillroadsgarage the water channels hmm... i will look into that but i guess if theres a gasket leak or something coolant would also drip on the outside of the pump, what about the silver cap you put on in 1:24? ive heard they rust through and coolant would go in that way, you think thats possible?
@@mischi9203 Then it would end up at the flywheel and the clutch, not in the oil. Do you also have an oil/water cooler between the oil filter 2:47? Maybe it's leaking.
yeah, use it for a boat anchor (i've heard nothing good about these engines)
Sir, have you checked for combustible gasses in the coolant via the radiator?
Подскажите пожалуйста, как смазывается подшипникua-cam.com/video/LDm75JySM5Q/v-deo.html, возле шестерни спидометра?
И одинаковые ли пружины впускных и выпускных клапанов?
1. By the front differential oil. 2 Yes the valve springs are the same.
@@watermillroadsgarage
Thank you
That is not a 2.8 it's a 2.6
It is a 2.8 liter that comes standard in the Sierra XR4x4 Mk1.
@@watermillroadsgarage It has the wrong heads.
@@darrellbanks4998 What do you mean?
@@watermillroadsgarage the 2.8 had 3 Exhaust Port's per head.the 2.6 only has 2
@@darrellbanks4998 I think you are confused with the 2.9 which does have 3 exhaust ports per cylinder head. But it also has a timing chain instead of gears.
Yes, to make it look original. What a shame to spend so much time and money on one of the worst engines ever built to drive. A modified pinto much better choice.
It's a shame it would have been way ahead of it's time and is more reliable then a timing chain and you know it. If it was designed better a V8 version I'd be very happy and not disappointed in owning a V8 tank and not neoprene as a stock timing gear or chain as factory. Car companies know it's ways to make money from you it blows up you got to buy another after warranty is up that's why car companies know how to aid your engine to death by it's flaws they made factory. I'd say every car is designed to break something to make the motor company money.
@@nickolasedmunds I'm sorry and you are wrong. That piece of crap called cologne V6 derivated from taunus v4 when they build it they won't add more exhaust ports to the the heads to fit ford taunus chasis. With 6 inlets and 4 outlets that heads are worst. So we got head cracks when you passed 5.500 constantly.
This engine was sh*t and best use for boat anchor.
Any pinto with some carb update will produce more power than this engine. I own one, I sped too much and got nothing. And yes while you spending time to chase new heads you crank will stay there.
@@delifisektuxedo I can tell you I'm not wrong by experience either way and about the gear driven timing how reliable it is and I think that's what I'm talking about mostly. I got one of these pos engines I modded the head and put extra coolant holes also to help the crack issues mods help I'm dumping money all 50 bucks it's a Ford and all horrible happens they should of kept it dura sparked. The american engine I got lasted since 1985 I think it's fine it's wore it's piston rings out still runs 🤯 but... nothing beats a V8 with all the damn parts produced real cheap here and they can work they got gear driven timing also so that's cool for a pretty pennie it's loud though. Parts are getting less and less with the cologne most people prob gonna swap anyways now. In america the Ford Cologne V6 besides Chevrolet the cologne it's the only carbed V6 Ford has here that I know of stock and without it mods wouldn't be possible like a holly efi and I'm thankful for that. If they made a better version of the V6 american designed, Better heads like a normal v6 with holly performance efi it would be cool but for now Chevrolet probably wins because and parts availability for Chevrolet is better. I like my fords but damn history is lacking for the better word. Atleast it lasted longer then the Chevrolet Vega lol keep me posted.
I see it for what it is a V6 most cars have one if there a sedan ha in a truck I guess it's supposed to be economical for it's time. It's taken a long time for me to get good mpg for mine a float adjustment, Idle adjustment for my china 2150 300 cfm carb which for my jets they're #50 and all 1.0 turn out she is great smooth as a kitten purring hot tho I have to use 1200-1500 rpm of chokes high idle setting to help it warm for 2 to 3 minutes then she's a happy camper. I've yet to buy a holly sniper 2300 yet. She's a great engine to learn off because she's finicky and teaches you and otherwise fights you.
@@nickolasedmunds You living in USA and choose that engine for what ? Being different ?. Yes timing gears are so reilable even engine blows up you got that timing gear. Other than that its a piece of crap. Even 2.9 Cosworth bob is just 200 hp. Even a dodge slant 6 much much better engine. Perhaps 4.0 ohc may be better engine. In europe you swap your v6 with ford pinto (not american one) 2.0 liter with weber 38/38 and modified cam. You got 150. That v6 never got that what ever you do. Plus heads going to crack one way or another. And pint much lighter engine. In short it was good boat anchor.
this kind of cologne stinks 🤣( i've heard many bad things about these engines)
Ever driven one?
no, and i wouldn't want to. it only made 91 or 117 hp in us, and wikipedia says it doesn't tune well due to siamesed ports. ideal media put it on their "worst engines" list for bad timing chains and my friend's dad had one that died young. idk, to each their own@@Momo-gi9rk
To be honest, I don't understand what some people have against this engine. It drives well, lots of torque at the bottom end. Simple to maintain. And sounds great.
its mainly because people are dumb and simply believe everything they hear. No one ever does their own research anymore
I have the 4.0L OHV Cologne V6 in a 1995 Ranger and it went 300,000 miles before the heater bypass valve exploded and spit all the coolant out on a 35C day. Unfortunately after that it cracked the cylinder head between the valves in two cylinders.
I tossed on a replacement bank 1 cylinder head, had the bank 2 head planed, threw in fresh rings, rod bearings, cleaned the hydraulic lifters, and I now have another 20,000 miles on the truck.
My only real complaint was the hydraulic roller lifters (which weren't a thing on the early 2.6/2.8 versions) had very small passages that can get gummed up without regular oil changes.