MADONNA's former collaborators NIKI HARIS and DONNA DE LORY; Life with, before and after MADONNA

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    But to be fair, to define Niki Haris and Donna De Lory only by their careers as stage sisters for Madonna would do them a disservice. Both are distinguished artists in their own right, but come from families steeped in music, but certainly both would not deny that their work with Madonna helped their careers.
    Niki Haris, born in 1962, is the daughter of the Grammy-nominated jazz pianist Gene Harris. Haris contributed her remarkable voice to some of Madonna's most iconic albums, including "Like a Prayer" and "Erotica," showcasing her versatility across various musical genres, from pop to jazz and gospel.
    Donna De Lory, born in 1964, is a multifaceted artist and whose rich vocals and stage presence were integral to Madonna's sound, making her an indispensable part of the pop icon's musical journey. Her father worked closely with Jimmy Webb, and his work can be heard on some of the greatest tracks in pop history - Wichita Lineman, Pet Sounds amongst many other famous songs.
    Beyond her work with Madonna, De Lory has explored diverse genres, incorporating world music and devotional chanting into her solo projects.
    This interview is their story, the Madonna part makes up half of this interview, but to understand their opinions of their time with Madonna please listen all the way through and please subscribe.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 378

  • @MatthewNouriel
    @MatthewNouriel 5 місяців тому +26

    Yooooo!! I'm the Iranian jewish person sitting next to Donna on my flight the other day! She was a total sweetheart, and it was so special to speak with her

  • @tsalikaki
    @tsalikaki 5 місяців тому +85

    These girls have shaped my childhood so much like Madonna. Exceptionally talented and so insightful.

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +7

      Same in a way but Madonna for me was the greatest supporter of gay men through a horrendous period where I, and many other openly gay men, felt ostracised. I will always appreciate her for that support!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +2

      Same for me though I’m guessing I’m older. So important to me

    • @tsalikaki
      @tsalikaki 5 місяців тому +4

      @@popthehistorymakers i was 12 when I rented The Girlie Show from my local video club it changed me in ways I cannot describe. It liberated me. It showed me it was celebrated to be different not frowned upon. I'm 41 and all her eras are my eras, connected with something I myself have lived. In an age of fast consumption and little to no attention span there will never be another Madonna. So we need to cherish her while we got her around.

    • @stephenknight6562
      @stephenknight6562 5 місяців тому

      Me too. Such beautiful voices and presence too!

    • @user-oe7hj4yd3q
      @user-oe7hj4yd3q 3 місяці тому

      U😮t😢🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉i​@@popthehistorymakers

  • @justintime377
    @justintime377 5 місяців тому +22

    Nikki darling, I'm 47, gay, and also a man.
    When you mentioned, that guys still come up to you in airports telling you that that movie changed thier lives, believe it.
    It changed mine in ways I'm still reflecting on today.
    So, thank you!
    Both of you! For giving me the strength to go after everything I ever wanted in life! ❤

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +5

      That’s so cool. I get that impact, as a 64 year old gay man all things Madonna, and even earlier - Bowie - were so important! Respect where respect is due! Loved the girls, really enjoyed doing this interview!

    • @Adrianne-eo4bu
      @Adrianne-eo4bu Місяць тому +1

      Amen to this! I’m also 47 but a straight woman and Blond Ambition set the stage for my entire life. It consumed me. It enthralled me. It showed me a world that I hadn’t yet known. Madonna has captivated me like no one else has or ever will. All these years later, I am still mesmerized by her artistry and musicality. I’m so happy that she has also touched your life ❤️

  • @kirbygo3569
    @kirbygo3569 5 місяців тому +16

    As a gay man of a certain age, I grew up with these two beautiful classy ladies. Thank you so much for this interview. I'm hoping for a reunion. Please 🙏 🙏 🙏

  • @YanL270
    @YanL270 5 місяців тому +54

    Their voices in "Bedtime stories" album are pure perfection. "Survival" or "Inside of me" for instance are great examples !

    • @ibmsst
      @ibmsst 5 місяців тому +5

      100% two amazing songs!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +8

      True! Loved that album and remember interviewing M at the Ritz in Paris

    • @dylanthuong2600
      @dylanthuong2600 5 місяців тому +4

      Survival was awesome. There was a shep pettibone remix of express yourself where nikki’s voice was fierce .

    • @richardmyles8237
      @richardmyles8237 5 місяців тому

      @@popthehistorymakersI wish you can interview independent music artists. I just released my 17 th studio album. Both my 16th and 17th album made the Spotify radar list and the mood recommendation list. I composed over 300 songs in the last 16 years. My music page on Songcast ( music distributor ) is over 128k views. It’s a major achievement considering I don’t have a major label behind me. Can you send you my music page? I also provided over 90 professional music videos.

    • @loveit8602
      @loveit8602 5 місяців тому +1

      Survival is probably one of my favorite M songs.

  • @ivan30ad1
    @ivan30ad1 5 місяців тому +53

    Ever since Madonna stopped working with Nikki and Donna, all her concerts don't feel the same anymore. I was hoping Madonna would bring them back for the Celebration Tour but was disappointed she didn't. Madonnas concerts aren't the same anymore. Great interview! 👍

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +7

      Thx and agreed!

    • @fernandobrunord
      @fernandobrunord 5 місяців тому +5

      Madonna concerts are still amazing, but we want them with her❤️

    • @MegaJake1971
      @MegaJake1971 5 місяців тому +3

      To say Madonna shows aren't the same because of backing singers doesn't sit right, I go to see Madonna, not backing singers and she's had great shows without them but each to their own... and even if they did carry on she wouldn't have had them up front as much as her later shows proved, they would have just been at the back for most of the shows... they probably wouldn't have liked that. the shows are about Madonna, not them.

    • @bweb6
      @bweb6 4 місяці тому +4

      The last time i saw them perform was on The Drowned World Tour. The ending of that tour when all three of them came out together for the Holiday/Music finale was amazing!
      They really complimented and added something special to Madonna's performances.

    • @RusselHerrera
      @RusselHerrera 4 місяці тому

      I go to Madonna's concerts to see Madonna i don't want to see backup singers 😬!!!

  • @NM-jo9jo
    @NM-jo9jo 5 місяців тому +30

    Loved the interview! The most honest they have given! Its such a shame Madonna passed up on the opportunity of having these ladies to take part in the Celebration Tour. They made M the live act she was back in the day. She is less athletic in her choreography these days and to me should have focused more on the vocal side because she doesnt need to prove herself anymore her past tours are testiment to her talent on stage. She has done the hard work and cemented her legacy and Nikki and Donna would have brought the celebration show to a new level vocally as a 3 piece again. They where the holy trinity on stage together and they should have been included as part of M's history on stage and they deserve the thank you and acknowledgement of their hard work 👑👑

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +2

      Thx for the compliment. Agree, but it’s Madonna‘s choice, though I feel the same.

    • @MKSouthernStar
      @MKSouthernStar 5 місяців тому +1

      Totally agree

    • @32446
      @32446 Місяць тому

      Totally agree. The Celebration Tour was a mess. All those you g dancers writhing around is old hat and Madonna could barely move. The vocal side could’ve been really fabulous.

  • @tsoj71
    @tsoj71 5 місяців тому +33

    Their voices blend so perfectly together with Madonna‘s! One of many good examples is Rain in the Girlie Show! 😍🤩😜

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +7

      Rain was so damn good with all three!

    • @02dennison
      @02dennison 5 місяців тому +4

      Wow yes rain that was so 🔥them 3 girls together so glad I got to witness that at Wembley

  • @Keith-xc9wf
    @Keith-xc9wf 2 місяці тому +5

    These gals are STARS 🤩!

  • @vickianaoficial
    @vickianaoficial 5 місяців тому +19

    Loved the interview, the whole world 🌎 knows how important Niki Haris and Donna delory were in Madonna career success and how much they contributed to that success to the point that we all Madonna s fans want to see them performing together again....., much love for both of them

  • @edilbertosacchi
    @edilbertosacchi 5 місяців тому +20

    What always made these women so charismatic and credible being M's stage sisters (cause you can't call them just backing singers) is their authenticity: the grit, the fun, the involvement never seemed affected, always inspired and personalized (you could imagine where Niky put her touch in vocals adaptation). You could feel their presence and intention and THAT is talent imo. We still miss you girls!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +7

      You are right and I’m gonna change the text - stage sisters!!! Perfect!

    • @edilbertosacchi
      @edilbertosacchi 5 місяців тому +4

      Loved your MTV interviews too Steve: the Erotica/Sex one is historic! @@popthehistorymakers

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +4

      @@edilbertosacchi thx. I am proud of that one

  • @todddepue681
    @todddepue681 5 місяців тому +30

    Niki is right...she and Donna made Madonna a better singer. Not just in the mode of support artists, but i can imagine Madonna hearing those girls and thinking "i gotta step my game up"

  • @j.c6204
    @j.c6204 5 місяців тому +19

    Can’t say I’m surprised hearing about Madonna being ” harsh , its well known she was hard on her dancers.
    To me Nikki and Donna are very important to M’s career. They made Madonnas Voice sound amazing. It was a certain magic I think. 💕

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +6

      M a perfectionist, wants what she wants and is the boss. It’s a difficult position to work with someone like that but Madonna probably wouldn’t have been so successful without that type of uncompromising drive. Love Niki, Donna and Madonna!

    • @Lillipod1
      @Lillipod1 5 місяців тому +4

      Hard to keep up with her kind of energy but they did really well

    • @karengarrison3666
      @karengarrison3666 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@popthehistorymakers
      With all due respect to your opinion, Michael Jackson had that same drive of Perfection, even moreso, and did not need resort to offensive and loathsome treatment of any of his supporting players

  • @danhagley274
    @danhagley274 5 місяців тому +16

    Love this podcast Steve. Still feels like something is missing from a Madonna gig without them.

  • @KC-rf7dv
    @KC-rf7dv 5 місяців тому +7

    I love those two ladies. Madonna's best tours were with Nicky & Donna. The three of them together were just fantastic. So glad they refused to have their hair shaved off as no one should be forced to do something they don't wish to do. Great interview. ❤

  • @mamasilver910
    @mamasilver910 5 місяців тому +11

    They created her live sound!!!! I miss these ladies singing with her sooooo much!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @brianmichaels5112
    @brianmichaels5112 5 місяців тому +17

    I loved Nikki, Donna and Madonna together. I can listen to Rain live from the girlie show over and over and over again. Their 3 voices together is pure bliss. I always love the clip when Nikki tells Madonna that Bobby Brown as arrested for fucking on stage and Madonna replies I hope he is there when I get there.

  • @RosePetal17
    @RosePetal17 5 місяців тому +24

    Wonderful in depth interview with two women who were the vocal powerhouses behind Madonna. Such humble women with amazing musical backgrounds 🙌🏼💖💖💖🎶🎶🎶🎶

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +5

      They are true musicians - as you say with incredible backgrounds. Thx for your comment!

  • @universalsoulhealing
    @universalsoulhealing 5 місяців тому +26

    A wonderful interview, Steve! I grew up watching you on MTV Europe, and so you were an intrinsic part of the Madonna journey too! Thank you for continuing to do what you love! Particularly of note is how Niki was able to express her full story around her complex relationship with her longtime Madonna association. It warms my soul to hear a balanced assessment of the experience. Both she and Donna seem so generously at peace with their history, and having seen them perform this fall in LA, I can honestly say they have never sounded better! 💛💫

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +8

      Thanks, I do feel the Erotica interview was one of Madonna's best, very proud of that, and this channel gives me the opportunity to do what I love and hopefully get great interviews from the people that have always meant something to me, and Donna and Niki were part of that story, and also an important part of Madonna's legacy.

  • @gingoyalho1400
    @gingoyalho1400 5 місяців тому +6

    So interesting to here their journey without seeing only the Madonna lense.

  • @andreww3225
    @andreww3225 5 місяців тому +19

    Great interview 😊
    Love N&D ❤❤
    As a Madonna fan I was so hoping for a reunion on the celebration tour.
    I’m just glad they still work together.

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +7

      Same, would have made sense

    • @sohobee3438
      @sohobee3438 5 місяців тому +4

      Me too

    • @02dennison
      @02dennison 5 місяців тому +4

      It still could happen 🤞

    • @karengarrison3666
      @karengarrison3666 3 місяці тому +3

      I still don't understand Madonna's decision to use Bob, the Drag Queen, but omits the reunion of these two icons themselves!

  • @ddom678
    @ddom678 5 місяців тому +12

    This is the best interview of Donna and Niki I have seen! Why? Because Mr. Blame allowed them to talk about themselves. I have seen a number of interviews where the interviewer used them to learn about Madonna rather than to learn about Donna and Niki. I am a recent Madonna fan who is also interested in Donna and Niki's music and talents. Could you both perform a show in the Bay Area, CA, say Yoshi's Jazz Club or in Las Vegas?

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +5

      Thx for the compliment - my interview technique is to listen - simple really. Best to follow @nikianddonna on Instagram for any tour stuff, and maybe check out the interview with Jonas Åkerlund for his experience of working with Madonna.

  • @ashamokrosz6126
    @ashamokrosz6126 5 місяців тому +8

    What a rich interview! Loved the reflections and hearing their perspectives on what was happening behind the scenes externally and internally. I loved the part on Nikki speaking up about the hair being cut off...the lack of respect and decency to talk with them given their history...good for her. I imagine they got bolder as the years went by. They still retain the gratitude for it all. I love their rapport and that they have this shared history of such a rare moment in time that few people experienced or can relate to that made such an impact on pop culture. Always loved them, wish them the best!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +3

      I was really pleased how open they were. And what talent!

  • @nunyatd
    @nunyatd 2 місяці тому +2

    The Girlie Show was one hell of a concert. I seen this live Oct. 12 1993. One of the beat I have ever seen. Still remember it like it was yesterday.

  • @youbelonginthezoo
    @youbelonginthezoo 5 місяців тому +10

    Niki gave a moving sermon and Donna is so so sweet! Best interview with them. Very moving and inspiring and I wish Madonna would extend the olive branch to especially Niki.. what a loss for Madonna and her black children not too have “aunt Niki “ in their life.. but again Madonna and Niki are both still very young (regardless) of what society says

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +4

      I agree. I think Madonna should have invited all the relevant people in her past to be, not on the whole tour, but guests. Would have been a clever and kind move

    • @karengarrison3666
      @karengarrison3666 3 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@popthehistorymakers
      I agree, wholeheartedly.
      Madonna chose referencing the many people (men) who influenced and guided her, from her humble beginnings, as well as honouring her Mom. But it is disappointing at the intentional, (how else to define), the deliberate omittance of these two women, forever memorialized in video and records

  • @scottdorsey8220
    @scottdorsey8220 5 місяців тому +3

    This was fun! Thanks ladies for being beautiful spirits, talented singers and fabulous dancers for us! Madonna was well served by you!

  • @hanssolos3699
    @hanssolos3699 5 місяців тому +3

    steve is a great interviewer cos he doesnt interrupt his guests and let them tell their stories ❤

  • @yCoffeyDeLaSoultino
    @yCoffeyDeLaSoultino 5 місяців тому +3

    Nostalgia! 😍Great interview with Niki & Donna. It's nice to see when an interviewer allows their guests to speak & not interrupt, thank you. It's fascinating to see the evolution, growth & hear their own stories told at this stage in their lives & careers. When Niki & Donna made their debut as THE "unofficial/official" trio with Madonna at the MTV Video Music Awards in 1989 for Express Yourself & presenting George Michael with the Video Vanguard Award, that was the beginning of something really magical & captivating. As a gay young boy, I was captivated & mesmerized. Niki & Donna are correct, the fun, energy & performance of being so in sync & connected was the 'Golden Era' ie. Blond Ambition World Tour 1990, Truth or Dare, 'Vogue' at the MTV VMA 1990. What pops out when Niki & Donna talked about influencing Madonna - about their energy, vocal harmony, connection in performance is in 'Truth or Dare' is "Holiday" when Niki say "Should we give it one more time for the stage girls...should we try to have a holiday (in an English accent hehe)" or 'Rain' for 'The Girlie Show - Live Down Under 1993". As a young gay boy in the 80s & 90s, I was wowed & fascinated by how a huge mega star allowed OTHER women & backup singers/dancers share the spotlight in her act/performances with her, and consistently for a period, at the height of Madonna's career AND how these 3 women treated a bunch of flamboyant gay homosexual queer men as normal regular people, made funny jokes & had fun together. Growing up in a period when there wasn't any positive gay representation or any at all, it was HIV/AIDS death, violence & homelessness that I thought this is what happens to gay men. Just a grim & depressing future with a tragic ending and no one who would care. Truth or Dare and these ladies provided a positive light, and representation IN THE MEDIA for so many lgbtq people during this time period, it was groundbreaking in so many ways. So much culture, talent, artistry & influence doing what it does best when all the pieces connect ...Magic. Love & light, thank you ladies, Niki & Donna. 🙏❤

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +2

      Beautiful! I’m there with you, that period was bleak and Madonna, Donna & Niki were there for us!

  • @stevenrendell2728
    @stevenrendell2728 5 місяців тому +4

    Truth! Niki really hits the nail on the head! Madonna needed that flava hunni!! Niki and Donna contributed so much to the sound of M and she has not recaptured the essence of that sound since their collaboration! Awesome interview learning about Niki and Donna more outside of M! Love Niki and Donna! Love Madonna! 💓🤎

  • @loveit8602
    @loveit8602 5 місяців тому +4

    I'm so glad they're doing all these interviews, because I love their insights and learning more about them. I wish Niki and Donna would do an album produced by Patrick Leonard.

  • @lisabkirchner
    @lisabkirchner Місяць тому +1

    Steve, this is a fabulous interview! It was insightful and inspiring to hear these lovely talented women talk about their experiences performing with Madonna. And you have a rare gift as an interviewer: you listen. I enjoyed hearing Niki and Donna’s full, organic answers to your questions with no interruption on your behalf. Well done, and thank you! 🙏🏻

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for the compliment. If it’s interesting no need for me to talk. I loved he fact that they just run with it at some point!

    • @lisabkirchner
      @lisabkirchner Місяць тому +1

      @@popthehistorymakers You are a great interviewer!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  Місяць тому

      @@lisabkirchner 😘

  • @amadeoorellana6863
    @amadeoorellana6863 5 місяців тому +5

    omg i remember so well the interview u did to Madonna for Erotica album!! i watched so many times when i was 17!:) thank u

  • @sssxxxttt
    @sssxxxttt 5 місяців тому +5

    Mr Blame I need to thank You. These people are about my age. In my 20ties they, and You, were gods. The life experience they share is wonderful and relatable. I feel closer to them after listening to Your interviews. Regretfully I don't have the time to enjoy them all.

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +3

      I was never a god but thx for the compliment. I loved interviewing them, in fact I just love interviewing people and Niki & Donna were such wonderful guests!

  • @galacticmode
    @galacticmode 5 місяців тому +4

    truly amazing interview; and there is so much more that i want to know about the behind the scenes

  • @AntonCiccone
    @AntonCiccone 5 місяців тому +7

    wow! thank you all for this interview ❤️🥰

  • @blakey2408
    @blakey2408 3 місяці тому +3

    Awww wow!! This interview was amazing!!❤❤❤ OMG!! STEVE BLAME… he was a big part of my childhood too! Loved all of the Madonna Weekends on MTV growing up❤ Steve hasn’t changed a bit 😮

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  3 місяці тому +2

      Obviously your eyesight has deteriorated but I’ll take the compliments 😘

    • @ernestinosalas5453
      @ernestinosalas5453 2 місяці тому

      Ok xx
      No​@@popthehistorymakers

  • @donryan3153
    @donryan3153 5 місяців тому +5

    Niki and Donna I loved every second of this learning about your families and beginnings. Love both of you. And Niki I am living for you telling the shaved head story. LOVED seeing your defiance come out and the "You sit down" attitude. You go girl, you knew your power. 😊

  • @jasontalada8318
    @jasontalada8318 5 місяців тому +4

    Love, love love these two. Thank you for such a great interview. Wish I could see the 3 of them reunited, but probably will never happen.

  • @neo2764
    @neo2764 5 місяців тому +6

    Nicki and Donna are so lovely

  • @ItsMyLittleTony
    @ItsMyLittleTony 5 місяців тому +9

    What an amazing interview and insight into their world, what absolute queens they are

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +1

      all 3 (lol)? They were always amazing and of course with Madonna at the best time. i loved talking to them again!

    • @ItsMyLittleTony
      @ItsMyLittleTony 5 місяців тому

      Absolutely lol

    • @ItsMyLittleTony
      @ItsMyLittleTony 5 місяців тому +1

      Did they say anything about what appears to be their vocals on nothing really matters at the start of the celebration tour?

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +1

      @@ItsMyLittleTony I didn’t ask those sort of specifics, but that would have been an interesting point.

  • @jodyjebbs7690
    @jodyjebbs7690 5 місяців тому +5

    thanks for this interview Steve

  • @hermitageboy
    @hermitageboy 5 місяців тому +4

    So enjoying seeing this interview Steve ❤.my sister was always into Madonna from day one,I was a fan around late eighties and especially the Erotica era. It spoke to me as I was an isolated 17 year old teen. I still remember fondly your interview with M promoting the album. Always loved M although also never really wanting to have met her so as not to be disappointed if she wasn't nice lol. Nice to see you online.

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +5

      I get that, sometimes meeting your heroes can be disappointing. Madonna was never an easy interview partner but I was never disappointed as I found her challenging and fascinating at the same time! I still love and appreciate her for all she’s done and for all she’s achieved!

  • @darelhero
    @darelhero 5 місяців тому +5

    thank your for this wonderful interview-i enjoyed every moment of it. I love Nikis energy!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +3

      Thx for watching and commenting. I love them both, and yes Niki has got amazing energy

  • @jartober
    @jartober 5 місяців тому +6

    Everyone wondering why they aren't back for the Celebration tour..M had a big falling out with Nikki over stupid drama ages ago. Donna doesn't seem to have issues with anyone but she's so close with NH..loyalty. On this new tour, M has so many dancers and it pales in comparison to when these three took the stage. Just those three was pure magic.
    I think D and N are really done with the Madonna years, and as grateful as they are for the past... it's the past. I still think Madonna could have reached out to both of them and said there's no Celebration tour without you two. Imagine the possibilities.

  • @beachstreet101
    @beachstreet101 5 місяців тому +2

    This was a fantastic interview Steve! And I loved that you also let them talk when they had something to say. You let them get it out and say it all. It was brilliant. And I loved the questions you asked including could they disagree with Madonna on something and it’s honored. As we discover with the hair situation. Niki did a great job at telling that story and going to bat for the both of them. I know what that’s like with fellow colleagues having to go to bat with the boss on something. Sometimes we won and sometimes we didn’t, but at least we spoke up.
    Also I feel Madonna greatest years were with Niki and Donna. And that’s about 1986-87 all the way up to 2005-2007, the confessions stuff. Donna’s last reported gig with Madonna was 2007, the second Live Aid. There was a noticeable shift with Madonna’s brand and music after that, which while still entertaining, I feel lacks the magic she once had while with Niki and Donna. That’s why Madonna kept them for so long.

  • @santiagoospina5836
    @santiagoospina5836 5 місяців тому +4

    Thank you Nicki, thank you Donna. Thank you so much, thank you both, thanks for everything. Thank you, thank you for all, I thank you again and again and again, thank you, you are both our lucky stars. Thank you. I love you both.

  • @onair6652
    @onair6652 5 місяців тому +7

    Patrick Leonard, JPG, Madonna, Donna and Nikki changed pop culture forever. Good times... we need you back Pat :)❤

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +4

      Yes. Dear Jessie was written about his daughter I remember.

    • @MO-ir7bt
      @MO-ir7bt 5 місяців тому +2

      Niki and Donna were hired to do a job. They didn't change anything. That doesn't mean they weren't great back up singers though and get I get the nostalgia thing...but the reactions here are so gullible...people going as far as saying that she needs Niki in her life because she has black children. Niki has been shady for years...she needs to have several seats. The real legend here is STEVE BLAME. MTVEUROPE was something else.

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому

      @@MO-ir7bt I’m on the floor with that compliment xx

    • @MO-ir7bt
      @MO-ir7bt 5 місяців тому

      You are a TV pioneer. Those of us who grew up with MTVEUROPE know. And that has little to do with the MTV-phenomenon but more with the Pan-European concept. That in itself was inherently political and I remember your many great reports and how it opened up my view on the world as a gay kid growing up in some shitty village in Belgium. xxx @@popthehistorymakers

    • @kumada84
      @kumada84 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@MO-ir7bt Donna and Niki had an immense influence on Madonna. (So did her brother.) To refer to them as "backup singers" is what Madonna might call "reductive". And, tbh, Madonna making Donna cry through a toadie _alone_ earned her more "shade" than Niki could ever possibly throw at her.

  • @bradmims1303
    @bradmims1303 5 місяців тому +3

    Really fantastic interview. Love Donna and Niki.
    'I sing because I'm free.' Thank ya'll!!!

  • @kumada84
    @kumada84 5 місяців тому +3

    What a fantastic interview. Thank you so much for doing this, Steve!

  • @yanfort8852
    @yanfort8852 5 місяців тому +1

    Such an insightful interview. Thank you so much. The highlight is definitely the shaving incident from DWT/ I Was stunned

  • @user-tw7us4lw4r
    @user-tw7us4lw4r 5 місяців тому +3

    Such a great interview with 2 pop legends!

  • @ANTHONYVONAJR
    @ANTHONYVONAJR 5 місяців тому +3

    Steven great interview and thank you so much for letting these two amazing woman speak ! this was a amazing interview !

  • @michaelalvarez1948
    @michaelalvarez1948 5 місяців тому +10

    Madonna owes them so much more respect

  • @arjenamsterdam5351
    @arjenamsterdam5351 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank You for a great interview. Wonderful and Wise Women.

  • @nikrosevca9294
    @nikrosevca9294 5 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this interview, Vogue! 🙆🏼‍♂️💛💛💙

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you. It was a pleasure to talk to both of them again

  • @AMERILOGIC
    @AMERILOGIC 5 місяців тому +2

    Nikki, you are the spitting image of your beautiful Mom. We all knew you would be great ❤. B.H. produced much talent. Cheers.

  • @najidemers2858
    @najidemers2858 5 місяців тому +5

    Great Interview 🙏Thank you

  • @sebco523
    @sebco523 2 місяці тому +1

    Lovely, Niki and Donna are amazing! Steve is MTV-royalty

  • @mayikcove2802
    @mayikcove2802 5 місяців тому +4

    Love you guys... thanks for sharing

  • @vinnyantoine
    @vinnyantoine 5 місяців тому +1

    Great interview. Loved it

  • @salonesinquebrantables
    @salonesinquebrantables 5 місяців тому +5

    Love them, love Madonna and loveeeeeeeee them together ❤ they should be in this tour

    • @Lillipod1
      @Lillipod1 5 місяців тому +1

      She left the band out as well. Must be all recorded tracks

    • @karengarrison3666
      @karengarrison3666 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Lillipod1
      It was 💔.
      Might as well just stay home and spin records 😢

  • @drownedboy8
    @drownedboy8 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for this deep and very interesting conversation with two incredible women who are so important to me.

  • @RafaaGMadonnaLover
    @RafaaGMadonnaLover 5 місяців тому +3

    Thank you two for being so honest and true.

  • @xavierminchello8431
    @xavierminchello8431 12 днів тому +1

    THEY MADE STARS SHINE BRIGHTER!

  • @Zave125
    @Zave125 5 місяців тому +1

    love their candidness AND their mature self expression.

  • @andersontibbetts950
    @andersontibbetts950 Місяць тому

    You 2 guys are totally the real true best and I totally love you both forever.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Lillipod1
    @Lillipod1 5 місяців тому +1

    Great interview

  • @sunnydays5742
    @sunnydays5742 5 місяців тому

    Great interview and so lovely to see Steve. I remember watching him on MTV News when it used to be good. Wow, nostalgia ❤

  • @tommasomurgia6318
    @tommasomurgia6318 4 місяці тому

    Such a honest and meaningful interview

  • @raff4
    @raff4 5 місяців тому +1

    I love how steve just lets people talk ..... he has great timing and definitely read the room

  • @louisekennedy1137
    @louisekennedy1137 5 місяців тому +3

    You girls are amazing magnificent talented and your voices. Like Angel's I love you since the 80s you are madonna miss your voices so much together and your vision of rain is georgous thank you for your decades with madonna you girls are so loved godbless❤❤❤

  • @robbygr3144
    @robbygr3144 5 місяців тому +1

    Steve, without you knowing it, you are connected with my college years in Thessaloniki Greece 30+ years ago. I used to watch MTV Europe almost all day. So dear memories you bring back when I see you! I love you very much wonderful man! Kisses from Athens!

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +1

      How I loved and still love Greece. My 29th time was at the end of November- and number 30 will be soon. I’ve been all around, Thessaloniki obviously too. But mostly Athens, as I love that city. Love to you too!

  • @alexd1121
    @alexd1121 5 місяців тому +2

    This is so informative. I prefer this interview by far because I think it’s important to hear them share positive things about Madonna. At the end of the day that’s why they’re interviewed. There’s another recent interview where the interviewer lures them into negative territory.

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +1

      As you know it’s easy to be negative about life and people. Sometimes even when we have a good experience we can focus on the negative and phrasing of questions is important. I think because I’ve also had experience of interviewing, and met Madonna a few times, I know a bit about the way she works and operates, and know how focussed and how much she expects from herself - the same as she expects from others. That’s perfectionism - nothing wrong with that. I’m also a believer that my role is not to judge, or dig for dirt, but just to get the artist(s) to open up as much as I can and in that way get new information. I’ve interviewed over many many years, do extensive research for each interview, and have botched a few when I was younger, eventually learning that it’s all about guiding the interviewee, about trust (reputation is important, and interest - I like artists, their foibles, and what they have given us. Life is ultimately dull without art. Who should judge when they themselves have not had their own output judged? Thanks for your comment!

    • @alexd1121
      @alexd1121 5 місяців тому

      @@popthehistorymakers And thank you very much for you reply. Your passion shows in the way you let your guests speak while guiding the conversation into constructive directions.

  • @catverric165
    @catverric165 5 місяців тому +2

    Niki your body back then gave me a good feeling about myself. Nowadays it’s true, everything is bigger, we missed out on that but I’m so thankful girls don’t have to beat themselves up as much.

  • @consuelo719
    @consuelo719 4 місяці тому +2

    Preach!! That pulling the hair off and cutting it was intense and damn right Bold and insulting....glad you all didn't. Love this interview. Look forward to seeing you and Dona in your next adventure..... I remember seeing you at AGAPE in LA

  • @TheLongdarktunnel
    @TheLongdarktunnel 5 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed this!

  • @buffyrocks0149
    @buffyrocks0149 3 місяці тому +1

    The ladies are looking AMAZING! Always thought they were great singers and performers. Hope the gigs go well... come to Scotland, Edinburgh fringe Festival... 🎉

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, they should travel with their show. Their voices blend so well!

  • @warrenholmes3830
    @warrenholmes3830 5 місяців тому +3

    This was amazing - Thank you :) Steve, please could interview you? I always loved watching you on MTV - Merry Christmas x

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +3

      Yes!

    • @warrenholmes3830
      @warrenholmes3830 5 місяців тому

      @@popthehistorymakers Thank you so much. What is the best wat to arrange this, please?

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому

      @@warrenholmes3830 connect on Instagram and pm me - Steve.blame

  • @markstar6056
    @markstar6056 5 місяців тому +8

    Yea very strange Niki apparently didn’t know who Madonna was in 1987, at that stage Madonna had dozens of big hits, Like a Virgin was #1 for 6 weeks, she was married to Sean Penn, she appeared in movies, was on the cover of every well known magazine, her album True Blue made her a global superstar. Unless Niki was living under a rock I don’t know how she didn’t know Madonna.

    • @paikkakoti4496
      @paikkakoti4496 5 місяців тому +4

      She lied or mixed the years, obviously

    • @asleyluz6592
      @asleyluz6592 5 місяців тому +1

      Tbm achei isso muito estranho. Como não sabia quem era madonna?

    • @azealiasbanx492
      @azealiasbanx492 3 місяці тому

      @@asleyluz6592she said several times she was a jazz girl she liked poetry and jazz more and did music for fun

    • @asleyluz6592
      @asleyluz6592 3 місяці тому

      ​@@azealiasbanx492 Madonna estava na mídia.

    • @azealiasbanx492
      @azealiasbanx492 3 місяці тому

      @@asleyluz6592 idk what that says I’m sorry

  • @andreasnssjohnsen6023
    @andreasnssjohnsen6023 5 місяців тому +2

    Great to see this. And mr Blame, I haven't seen you since my teens

  • @marcus8258
    @marcus8258 5 місяців тому +1

    Great interview! Two really interesting women. Subscribed!😊

  • @troygaspard6732
    @troygaspard6732 4 місяці тому +2

    Ok, one father did a sting arrangement for Paul Williams, while the other father led a band for Flip Wilson. These women have music in them.

  • @shanegrim5421
    @shanegrim5421 4 місяці тому +1

    I would love to see the three of you perform again. But most importantly I wanna see you repair your relationship her. I wonder if Donna and Niki have reached out? Or if she has reached out to them. I love all three of these women! Madonna Niki and Donna helped shape me for who I am today.

  • @RenePeraza
    @RenePeraza 5 місяців тому +1

    Niki and Donna: thank you for your candor and insight. I too have been in the business over 35 years and have been part of 'machines gone wrong' as Niki put it. But, I'm still toiling away but my way! BTW: I would pay top dollar to see/hear you two sing with Madonna on a tour with top live musicians. I just won't pay for this current Karaoke 'Celebration' tour, sorry.

  • @redmenace1135
    @redmenace1135 5 місяців тому +1

    Both look great!
    Keep it going, ladies.

  • @acnyc4601
    @acnyc4601 4 місяці тому +1

    Love These two talented ladies. I love that hair story, It reminded of me of a family feud, that was handled and that out of all there time together this is as silly or bad as it got. I have no doubt that If ever these 2 ladies found themselves in a dire situation. There sister would be there. I lived and still love that VMA trio performance, and it was that 1st introduction that I fell in love with these 2 ladies. I'm still here and able to write this message because of Madonna who truly gave me hope and rescued me. Forever grateful.

  • @n0kturna1
    @n0kturna1 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the questions on their background

  • @Dr_Madonna
    @Dr_Madonna 5 місяців тому +4

    Fun interview 😊

  • @THATGUYYOULIKE
    @THATGUYYOULIKE 5 місяців тому

    Love this. From Express Yourself …to the beautiful RAIN performance

  • @DistantCousin
    @DistantCousin 5 місяців тому +5

    This is incredibly interesting!! Answers a lot of things I've wondered about since I was a teenager. I wonder if it was Jamie King telling them to cut their hair off for The Drowned World Tour?

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +1

      Don’t know but of course he was in charge

    • @DistantCousin
      @DistantCousin 5 місяців тому +2

      @popthehistorymakers them having to endure the change of guard "at Court" explains an awful lot in how Madonna's shows changed in nature and how the backing singers - Nicki, Donna and their replacements were largely sidelined in the vision of her post 2004 tours - to the point now where the Celebration Tour has no other vocalists on stage!

  • @sirex02
    @sirex02 4 місяці тому +2

    Seeing Madonna at Madison Square Garden tomorrow. Gonna be epic but also bittersweet because these lovely ladies aren't on stage. Soo much of Madonna's musical herstory include these woman especially Bedtime Stories and Ray Of Light. The harmonies i Rain C'mon Madonna work with Niki and Donna again!

  • @hanssolos3699
    @hanssolos3699 5 місяців тому +1

    boutdamntime niki x donna be celeb guest judges on RPDR for the segment a night of a thousand madonnas ❤

  • @Tabbi-xf9wo
    @Tabbi-xf9wo 4 місяці тому +2

    The blonde ambition tour d war the first time I saw them it was awesome

  • @carynemount949
    @carynemount949 2 місяці тому

    I love the honesty and especially during hair bs. Totally stayed true to themselves, and yes- how you're treated and spoken to at 22 and 42 are very different. Love you two!!!❤

  • @ballet07
    @ballet07 5 місяців тому +3

    Oh man, I adore Nikki and Donna. Beautiful interview. Their inner and outer beauty is way beyond Madonna's. Love Madonna as a performer, but these two ladies are a whole different level🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @Impressive1nstant
    @Impressive1nstant 5 місяців тому +2

    wow im surprised the background talk from the Drowned World Tour, which is my favorite...

  • @aliesatkeskin
    @aliesatkeskin 5 місяців тому +2

    Dona and Nikki are as valuable as Madonna! I love you girls❤❤❤❤

  • @Victoria-Lesly
    @Victoria-Lesly 5 місяців тому +2

    Love the drama , please make a movie 😅😅.

  • @castoputa
    @castoputa 5 місяців тому +8

    These legends made Madge sound great for more than a decade! Respect is due 🙌🙌

  • @DIETRICHCICCONE
    @DIETRICHCICCONE 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent interviewer

    • @popthehistorymakers
      @popthehistorymakers  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. Compliments at Xmas are always welcome, particularly from a Ciccone!