Could be. But considering his initial position I think he was just being patronising and wanted to end the conversation. At one time I think he is about to say, 'Nobody has ever' explained it like that before. Since people in his age group are likely to have heard this explanation many times over the decades, I'm guessing he is being sarcastic.
This guy and this argument are far from smart, it's the same trite bs that apologists have touted around forever no matter how many times the stupidity is pointed out. 😂
@@freddyguy8582 I am a slow learner so it worked on me back in the 70s. Had to have it explained to me a few times that you could just swap 'God' for 'Ptah', 'the world egg' or 'the laws of nature' before I finally understood it was a bs argument.
Warning someone of hell fire is love!!! People take the truth as harsh, but once people end up in hell they will wish people didnt suger coat it & tell them they can keep living the way they are & go to heaven. A professor doesnt suger coat his expectation you need to meet to be accepted into harvard so why should a pastor sugar coat the truth & have you miss out eternity with GOD
Let's not add or detract from our religion: God loved us so much that him and his son killed himself/themselves to save us from the very nature that gives us value ie morality. We don't really need to pray unless you're greedy and want more than that.
@@findtruth5329 Hey find truth. I believe we have a biblical basis for praying that all will become saved. Here are a few verses to consider; however, I think there is more than this to consider. 1 Timothy 2:1,3 Luke 10:2 in 1 Timothy 2:4 it explains God wants all people to become saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. So, it just makes common sense to me that we should pray God's will. If you want to see scriptural basis for praying God's Will; I am available to help you look for it. I know that there are many Verses in the Bible that discuss praying God's will. Thanks for your comment. It got me thinking. As for me I will pray that all might become saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.
I love this. This is how God truly reaches hearts and changes minds. Not in the fire, earthquake, or wind. It's the still small voice, never in chaos. What a wonderful interaction.
Warning someone of hell fire is love!!! People take the truth as harsh, but once people end up in hell they will wish people didnt suger coat it & tell them they can keep living the way they are & go to heaven. A professor doesnt suger coat his expectation you need to meet to be accepted into harvard so why should a pastor sugar coat the truth & have you miss out eternity with GOD. I think it can be either or why else would GOD allow people to visit hell & come back & warn people, majority of the time being to nice people will take GOD niceness for weakness & continue to use HIM including myself ive done it
@@baiwuli6781sadly in the Quean,it says God is the greatest ""DECIEVER"" . So your God is Satan? As in our culture satan is the deciever!deceiver!. Although WE ARE BROTHERS AND IT CONCERNS ME, THAT YOU HAVE NOT READ THAT?
@@aliashudson6882it’s not sugar coating dude. How do you know that people who go to hell are wishing that someone rudely told them the Gospel in a harsh way? You wouldn’t know because they are already dead. What if people in hell wished they knew about someone who loved them deeply and wanted them to be with Him. The reality is that hell is scary because it is separated from Gods love. Not because of your works based, fear based ideology.
This is how I deal with the "Who created God?" question. Time only exists in a physical space and for those governed by it. God is external to this system, just as I am external to a scale model diorama I create.
@@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou. Nice. So you admit that the Universe didn't need the Creator. If God can be eternal so can the Universe. Otherwise you're committing a special pleading fallacy.
this is definetly not the Christian concept of god lol in christianity god is a man who was killed and hung on a cross by his creation. He is using the Islamic argument of god as he has debated many Muslims and lost every debate. He has watched many videos of atheists coming to Islam through these intellectual arguments. It seems Avery is trying to shine with the same logic that defeated him. That description of god us the Islamic one and cannot be jesus. You're welcome.
I'm not the intellectual person so my testimony is prompted by the Holy Spirit. We who cannot debate with our minds can be of service to God as well. We tell our personal story of what, the living God, our Creator, has done in our lives. I am an eyewitness, when the Holy Spirit is within a person, there is a glow, a warmth, a light coming from that person that is inexplicable!!! It is incredible to witness and magnetic to those around them... I equate this experience to being around Jesus when He was walking the earth. I praise the living God for the gift of His Spirit to those who are Born Again Believers!!! ✝️🙏🕊️❤️
As a more analytical Christian, I appreciate your testimony so much. I find myself falling flat oftentimes when what a person really needs to an emotive testimony rather than a logical one, because I myself am not very emotive. I wish I had that spiritual experience as others of my friends or family have had, but instead my ascent to Christ has been almost entirely logic based. I believe though, that I am this way and you are that way so that we can serve God and his people in unique ways. If we were all the same, then life would have no purpose. Instead, I am made to think the way I think and you are made to think the way you think so that all people can be served. If you ask me, that's part of the true beauty of our God.
Beautifully put - both the comment and the reply!! As someone with a strong intellect and emotional appeal, I’m alway caught between the two in an internal debate. While I’m more extreme in other aspects of my personality (less structured) and depend on other believers, I see my strong mind and heart as an opportunity to bridge the gap of understanding by people across this spectrum and to connect with a broader array of people, which is perfect as I’m going into Biblical counseling.
You basically just said "I'm ignorant and can't back up my claims and assertions with any kind of evidence or proof"...and you sound PROUD of that. Ignorance is not a virtue. Faith is useless. Believing in something you can't prove to be true means you are the victim of a con and living a lie. Try being proud of that.
Dude he was obviously preaching about Islam. You Christians don't believe in an omniscient god. Your god apparently made a child, making children is an attribute of his creation.
@@baiwuli6781let it rest, we don’t need a religion war in this comments section. You believe in Allah, this person believes in Jesus, and I believe in nothing
@baiwuli6781 Your God is our God, Jesus is in the Quran. You guys just peppered in some paganism, come back to the true way and walk with Christ. Muhammed was a child groomer.
I’m seeing something beautiful raising up that is something perhaps not seen before, or at least not to my knowledge. A bright new generation of gentlemen are emerging, knights of christ coming together to celebrate and praise the lord in a way not seen since many centuries at least. Most videos I watch of men in the past are men doing all kinds of stuff except ask questions about God and creation and bring true wisdom to our lives. You saw people talking about this video game, that company, gossip here and there, everything but God. But this new generation of gentlemen are strong as steel, pure rocks of strenght and wisdom. It’s something so beautiful it moves me to tears, this new generation will be responsible to lead humanity into God our true destination. The grace of God is infinite and goes beyond the material world, but God also brought us to life to experiment the inmense joy of living and being creatures of his universe. To be witnessess of the true nobleness of men that choose right over wrong, God glory forever, dear lord thank you so much!!!
I've used these same points, and many more, over the last 25 years while debating with non-believers. It's effective to tear down their strongholds of false belief and open them to hearing the Gospel of Jesus!
Whats your technique to debunk evolution? Could you do it in say, 60 seconds or less as GodLogic did? Im asking because I need a quick approach because I’m not the guy who has a short and quick response and I need some help
@@tjblues01 someone or something set it by design. If not evolution, what or who? I believe in the Big Bang in a sense as God spoke and bang it immediately happened. When we say God it could be anyone or anything not specifically directed towards the God of the Bible. God is a title anyhow not really a who or how or what because he’s one what with three who’s. We may not know what it is but we can know what it is not.
I don't think so. This argument is older than Garden of Eden and weak as nonalcoholic beer. Conversion starts with: If this God is real would he be worthy of your service? Would you believe in God? Timeless, immaterial, omnipresent, etc. these presented attributes of this god don't warrant that he's ought to be worshipped. The whole argument is based on "whatabooutism", what if's.There just claims without any evidence to make them true.
My pastor just spoke about this last Sunday. Ephesians 4:15 - Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.
Operating from the position of Love is key in these otherwise confusing and fearful times!!! Thank you for posting and all the work that this entails !!! Keep your armor tight brothers and sisters for the principalities of power that we face know no earthly bounds!!!
this is definetly not the Christian concept of god lol in christianity god is a man who was killed and hung on a cross by his creation. He is using the Islamic argument of god as he has debated many Muslims and lost every debate. He has watched many videos of atheists coming to Islam through these intellectual arguments. It seems Avery is trying to shine with the same logic that defeated him. That description of god us the Islamic one and cannot be jesus. You're welcome.
this is definetly not the Christian concept of god lol in christianity god is a man who was killed and hung on a cross by his creation. He is using the Islamic argument of god as he has debated many Muslims and lost every debate. He has watched many videos of atheists coming to Islam through these intellectual arguments. It seems Avery is trying to shine with the same logic that defeated him. That description of god us the Islamic one and cannot be jesus. You're welcome.
Let’s stay in prayer for that brother in Christ that God uses him effectively in peoples lives. Let’s us pray that God opens the eyes and heart of that atheist to REPENT of his sinful lifestyle and come to Jesus by faith. I’ve been doing Frontlines Street Witness for years and it’s not always like that sometimes people get angry. Even if you just ask them this question: “If you were to die today(God forbid) are you 100% sure you’re going to Heaven?” and give them a Gospel Tract.
@@davidbermudez7704 "I’ve been praying for over 24 years now and God been working in my life" So you've been so selfish all this time that you haven't prayed for world peace and end to hunger. If god's been working, and you prayed for those, we would already have them, but no. So you didn't. Just your own selfish shyte. I guess granting your wishes is more important than preventing all those people from dying in Gaza and Israel....
@@9y2bgy No, I “pray without ceasing” in various things especially peace in this world each time I hear about famine, tragedies, injustices, poverty, murder and so forth I pray. I pray in everything even for my enemies like Jesus taught in Matthew 5. In Philippians 4:6-7 we read: 6Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. God bless you
See, we need more people to preach like this man and also how kind the old man was just warmed my heart. Most people, when I talk about christ they shut me down. I still pray for them to this day.
Warning someone of hell fire is love!!! People take the truth as harsh, but once people end up in hell they will wish people didnt suger coat it & tell them they can keep living the way they are & go to heaven. A professor doesnt suger coat his expectation you need to meet to be accepted into harvard so why should a pastor sugar coat the truth & have you miss out eternity with GOD. Dont be upset brother if they dont listen to your message even if you were super nice & sugar coat it they will believe they can still live worldy & accept JESUS keep doing HIS work brother GODbless you brother in CHRIST
Many street preachers will always scream if you don't believe in God or don't repent of your sins you will go to hell... instead of bringing more people to God they're literally pushing them away from God
God reaches those in the way that resonates with them. He knows what each of us respond to and will send it in ways that pique our attention and convict us. There is no one way that can happen, but only through Him can it happen His way. It’s just up to the person to receive or reject it. Unfortunately many will reject and will remember when God tried to get their attention.
@@aliashudson6882 look, I agree, (To an extent). We only plant seeds, God is the one that determines if the seed will grow and bear spiritual fruit. Not everyone needs to hear that they're going to hell from us. That being said, all believers must come to a place of conviction/repentance. I just believe that God uses different methods to strike at the heart of those He knows will be saved. Yes, Jesus is the only way to God (and Jesus is the Lord in flesh), but sometimes people need a kind word of encouragement, while others just need to hear the 'turn or burn' gospel. As long as we are speaking the Truth, and the words the Spirit is giving us, then we're doing what is right in the Lord's eyes.
I love this. In all my years when I used to speak to people randomly and approach them with the same question "Hi, can I ask you a question" they would reply " yes okay" I would ask " Do you believe in God?", NOT ONE PERSON was rude, disrespectful, in fact I always had a cordial conversation with them. Because I was respectful and it was just my approach, I would GIVE THEM THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, instead of going in to **TELL THEM** or **CONDEMN THEM** that never works. Love won me (Rom 2:4) so why would I not use **THE SAME THING** that won my heart?? ❤❤ Excellent example!! Love this video
Some people need to learn how to read people better. 🙄 If he wanted to vacate and not hear or answer any questions, such as rude degenerate like yourselves. Then there was absolutely no need for him to stick around until the end, tap him on the shoulder and give the young man a generous complement. Definitely something most couldn't answer because they can't even comprehend the thought. Such a lack of intelligence to critical thinking. One of the major problems with antisocial beings these days. It's too fundamental to debate elements outside of the box. 🙄 Did my comment hurt your fragile brain or would you like me to dumb it down into layman's terms for you? 🧠💨
I'm of the Christian faith and Amen has nothing to do with Jesus...his name is not even Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with only Jesus either...the Bible does not have the whole truth for us
I learned a lot from this video. It was a master class on how to deal with those annoying street preachers that harass everyone with their nonsense as you pass. 1. Smile 2. Listen to his spiel. 3. Stroke his ego. 4. Go on about your day. Nothing has changed. You are still no closer to proving your supernatural being you claim to exist - actually exists.
I thought the same when I watched the whole vid the first time. The older gentleman was either way acting atheist for the video or trolled the preacher with the huge smile on his face. Or... as George Carlin would say, he did give the F.ridge.
yeah, right? No. It's silly and supremacist to believe there's only one right deity to worship for us mere mortals, subsequently making all others fake gods and those that believe in them, wrong and basically heathens. Now go ponder wars and genocide for a bit and how they may have come about
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@@Rob-fc9wg Imagine it's night time and you turn away from the moon. Do you still believe the moon is there? How can you be so sure? Maybe it only reveals itself when you look and disappears when you look away. So you can't prove it. What do you do? You get a second person to confirm it. But for that you would have to trust the other person. Not only trust their word, but also in their existence. The love you have for your family is very real, but you can't prove it. We know it's real, beause everybody experiences it. Denying that there is SOMETHING different from the physical realm, Believing that you are more than just a mindless process of particles, that means faith. And ever single person kinda already admits that, because you have to exist before you can deny your existence in the first place. God shows himself everywhere. Science can explain how the stars came to be in that exact spot in the sky, but it can't explain why it's so damn beautiful. Art, Music, Language all of that reflects the divinity that humans have in them. It is more than just the number of atoms we are made of. "In the beginning God created all the bits that we understand and all the bit that we don't yet." It's not that I just randomly chose to be christian. Logically it makes sense for me to believe. I read the bible and tried to understand what message those people wanted to convey 2000 years ago. I haven't found a single message that would impact me negatively in any. Those are wisdoms about human nature, that people thought really hard about and captured in timless formats of metaphors and parrables. It's on you to understand what they wanted to convey.
This is beautiful. A seed was planted. God knew the two of them would meet one day and He knew what to put inside of the believer to pierce the heart of the unbeliever ❤.
@@bibleburner8426 LOL, I'm sure you have accomplished so much in your life including sucking air and bothering people. Your mission in life and you have so much to be proud of. You have made this world a better place for nobody.
It is so hard for us to imagine anything outside of what we experience with our five senses. Most people have a hard time, remembering the timetable, let alone, trying to understand the mind of an infinite God, dwelling outside the constraints of time and matter.
@@idealmodernsystems science is a observation and report of what is capable of being observed. To misrepresent such you are either standing with inference that is more implausible than plausible. Are you inferring you have a theory for life as we observe it, that is more plausible than intelligent design?
@@floydwhite1338 On the contrary, I'm saying science doesn't know and may never know. Claiming to have answers and playing word games is intellectually dishonest. For example, the speaker in this video says that time space and energy were created at the same time. There is no evidence for, or science behind this claim. He then goes on to base an argument for a creator god on it. So he starts with a misrepresentation of information, and then moves from that to a word games to build an "argument" for a creator god, all without backing it up with any evidence.
@@floydwhite1338- On the contrary, I'm saying science doesn't know, and we may never know. Claiming to have answers and playing word games is intellectually dishonest. The speaker claims that time energy and matter were created at the same time. This is an assertion with no evidence to back it up. There is no scientific paper of any kind that states that this is the case. He then goes on to say that it was made by a creator god. So now he's claiming to solve a mystery by appealing to an even bigger mystery. This isn't an answer it's just more questions. He then moves on to a word game. Yet his retrieval style presents it as it it's an answer. This is intellectually dishonest, and typical of most of this video's on this channel. Look out for this pattern: 1) misrepresent the science 2) move to a word/logic game based on this misrepresentation of science 3) make an unevidenced assertion about the solution to the scenario you've created (a god).
On the contrary, i'm saying we don't know and we may never know. Claiming to have answers and playing word games is intellectually dishonest. The speaker misrepresents the science saying that time space matter and energy came into existence at the same time. There is no science / evidence behind this claim. He then inserts a creator deity with no evidence. This is claiming to solve to a mystery with an even bigger mystery, but delivering it like an answer, not an even bigger question. He then played a word game with the untrue assertion he's made about time and space. (during which he falsely equivocates "immaterial" and "spiritual"). This is typical of just about every video on this channel: 1) Make a misrepresentation of science. 2) build a word game off it 3) assert, without evidence, that the answer is a god. Look out for this pattern in future videos.
Thank you sir! I’m am a believer of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. I’ve asked the question too, but was NEVER given an answer that made sense. So, I said, God will give me an answer in due TIME , if there is one, or it’s a question that cannot be answered by man, But it didn’t stop me from believing in THEM. Today, He, God, has answered the question! Thank You Heavenly Father for using this man. All be blessed and a blessing!
When he said "no body has ever.... this guy is smart" the holy spirit was entering the man and he realised that the love of God is real ❤and he's so worth of all indeed.... So people are continuing to reject Christ because of our lack of love seasoned in the same message we all preach.... may we speak from love not intelligence, intelligence is already wrapped in love🎉🎉
I don't consider anyone smart if they make an extraordinary claim and provide zero evidence to back it up. I saw nothing but wishful thinking presented to an old man who most likely wanted to move on with his day.
Yes but the god of the Bible hates mankind having knowledge. It is said this is the reason he cursed mankind. Now doesn't it make sense he's a powerful God? Remember the Bible says God is unchanging. But he does repent in one of the many stories of God's blunders called the Old Testament.
@@somewhatinformed1208 ”How much better to get wisdom than gold! To get understanding is to be chosen rather than silver.“ Proverbs 16:16 ESV
The street preacher forgot one argument: since God decided to create the universe, He is personal, with will. It proves God is not only external to this system, but also personal. (But it's kind of implicit in what he said.)
@@roblemeire9441 it does not. You have completely misinterpreted occam razor. There are a thousand times more assumptions one must make to assert a god. You don't get the luxury of ignoring every step of evidence leading up to your assertion. How you can even say that is clearly indicative of your lack of interest and rigor. I'm actually stunned.
@@lustwaffe9000 you can believe someone, even trust them. Verify for yourself what it means to you. But no matter, there will always be those with malice or a skewed outlook who interpret rather than translate.
If the universe is so old, why do humans only live for a split second? Why are we so advanced and complex billions of cells and dna it has no meaning! But JESUS CHRIST IS ✝️🩸🕊️
We couldn't see x-ray until we had the technology to see it. Just as scientists are discovering there is something smaller than an atom. Science is what we observe. Belief is what we put faith in. Just because God exists in something seperate from what we observe, doesn't mean he is nonexistent.
@@Nobumblegumforyou Belief comes from knowledge. If you don’t know something how can you believe in it? Faith is different. Faith is suspended belief in order to pretend you know something. You’re just pretending to know that your god exists outside of reality.
@@Zeus-the-mighty Belief comes from knowledge, knowledge that was brought by God to man. If there was no God then there would be no belief. I don't see your point??
I remember as a teenager struggling with the idea of "where did God come from" and spending weeks in my own mind trying to think through the problem until I realized God had created this box of time, which meant he was outside of it and could go in and through it as he pleased. Once I realized the timelessness of God, everything else became super simple. If God can create time, He certainly could create the universe, He certainly has authority over His creation and He certainly can save me.
Some will say who is that? Before ye even have the PRIVILEGE TO ASK THE QUESTION? Students will say who else can say...without? 1ST. Living in front! Students will say what is who am I making many noises? In front of the shared I AM.
Don't believe that this is even deserves a response. If this is an eternal God then we deserve to be humble before him. That is the problem is that we question but don't question our own motives or bias at all. The folly and pride of us all is amazing and usually gets worse as we get older.
Even if he created us, which is not demonstrable at all, he's still the guy that genocided humanity at least once, cursed the entire species for eternity because two people ate a fruit, and killed a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy.
Christians will still find a way to circle around this though... Also the question in the video of "who created Him" was never answered. The old man gave up too quick 😅
@@FranciscoJ7 Atheists: "God is bad! he never stops evil, why couldnt he smite adol f?" God:*uses a flood to wipe out evil that was so great it made creation cry out, destroys the caananites, destroys sodom and gomorrah" Atheists: "God ended someone clearly evil, hes such a bad God, he has no right to end anyone! Also i am pro abortion" Cant have it both ways
They werent kids, there were 42ish of them, it isnt made clear if they even got killed. The penalty was clearly justified, to ridicule Elisha was to ridicule the God Himself.
Okay, I see your point, and I would like to ask you a question. Contrary to our claim, you believe and live as there is no God. However, when we die we will lose nothing for believing there is one God, but what do you think you will lose if there is a God who will judge you when you die? Is it not smarter to believe than not to believe?
And allowed you to voice your opinion. I wouldn't have been so kind to people like you but I'm not God. This world is full of egg heads like yourself to express your nonsense. It seem s like you would have better things to think about and do but I guess this is your mission on earth.
@mesplin3 Reality is kind of hard to define. Is it space-time? Or is it the field that space-time inhabits? If it's the former then based on observations it seems to have a beginning, if it's the latter then yes reality has always existed. The conversation shifts towards a philosophical one rather than a scientific one the deeper you go. The human mind can only comprehend so much. The nature of reality is a pretty hard wall.
@@RedWhiskey000 I consider this to be more of a philosophical matter than a scientific matter anyway. But if "reality" isn't the right word, then how about "everything" instead? If x is a thing (or any other noun), then x is a part of everything.
@@ChrisBrown22082 i was commenting on your comment which stated "and hasn't always existed as a static block of spacetime." but in regards to this comment.. how does anything that we can observe and measure etc. energy, matter, space, which i assume you claim is all there is exist without time?
@@supersilverhazeroker Energy, matter and space need time to change. I'm arguing that time as a whole simply exists. There is no privileging to any moment as 'now'. All time has always existed and always will exist.
One of the best testimonies or proof I've heard. I am a Christian, but this is awesome. I'm glad the older gentleman didn't get mad, he actually listened. Wonderful job.
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Thank you for giving credit God Logic, as I'm subbed to his stuff and remembered this video.
He’s plagiarizing
Your definition of love is different then rhe Lords...His definition took His Son to the cross...
thank you Sir, i will. also thank you for being kind.
Please search into orthodoxy. orthodoxy is the first church. The body of Christ. We need the Body of Christ and Eucharist.❤☦️ (John 6:53-58)
I love that mans reaction! “You’re smart!” Genuinely meaning it too 🙌🏽
Could be. But considering his initial position I think he was just being patronising and wanted to end the conversation.
At one time I think he is about to say, 'Nobody has ever' explained it like that before. Since people in his age group are likely to have heard this explanation many times over the decades, I'm guessing he is being sarcastic.
I agree with @rationalreview5178. He already stated his position and wanted to get away from this man's "magical thinking".
This guy and this argument are far from smart, it's the same trite bs that apologists have touted around forever no matter how many times the stupidity is pointed out. 😂
@@freddyguy8582 I am a slow learner so it worked on me back in the 70s.
Had to have it explained to me a few times that you could just swap 'God' for 'Ptah', 'the world egg' or 'the laws of nature' before I finally understood it was a bs argument.
if by smart you mean insane, yes. very smart.
That was so lovely. He did such a good job. Sometimes you can plant a seed and it’s so awesome.
I love this interaction as well!!! When a person leads with love, it shows!!!
Warning someone of hell fire is love!!! People take the truth as harsh, but once people end up in hell they will wish people didnt suger coat it & tell them they can keep living the way they are & go to heaven. A professor doesnt suger coat his expectation you need to meet to be accepted into harvard so why should a pastor sugar coat the truth & have you miss out eternity with GOD
But that is just silly.. It's a claim rooted in nothing but ignorance..
God works through those who surrender to HIM❤
@@shiararamos3552 You have to demonstrate that a god exist.
Currently god is just a concept. You are deluded.
Let’s pray for the salvation of this lovely man!!❤
Let's not add or detract from our religion: God loved us so much that him and his son killed himself/themselves to save us from the very nature that gives us value ie morality. We don't really need to pray unless you're greedy and want more than that.
@@findtruth5329 Hey find truth. I believe we have a biblical basis for praying that all will become saved. Here are a few verses to consider; however, I think there is more than this to consider. 1 Timothy 2:1,3 Luke 10:2 in 1 Timothy 2:4 it explains God wants all people to become saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. So, it just makes common sense to me that we should pray God's will. If you want to see scriptural basis for praying God's Will; I am available to help you look for it. I know that there are many Verses in the Bible that discuss praying God's will. Thanks for your comment. It got me thinking. As for me I will pray that all might become saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.
How exactly have you been saved?
@@findtruth5329?
Praying for that man❤ God bless him🙏
I love this. This is how God truly reaches hearts and changes minds. Not in the fire, earthquake, or wind. It's the still small voice, never in chaos. What a wonderful interaction.
Warning someone of hell fire is love!!! People take the truth as harsh, but once people end up in hell they will wish people didnt suger coat it & tell them they can keep living the way they are & go to heaven. A professor doesnt suger coat his expectation you need to meet to be accepted into harvard so why should a pastor sugar coat the truth & have you miss out eternity with GOD. I think it can be either or why else would GOD allow people to visit hell & come back & warn people, majority of the time being to nice people will take GOD niceness for weakness & continue to use HIM including myself ive done it
I love this! Always in a still, calm voice. I never thought about that. Thank you for sharing!! ☺️🫶🏼
yeah, and that god is Allah, not jesus
@@baiwuli6781sadly in the Quean,it says God is the greatest ""DECIEVER"" . So your God is Satan? As in our culture satan is the deciever!deceiver!. Although WE ARE BROTHERS AND IT CONCERNS ME, THAT YOU HAVE NOT READ THAT?
@@aliashudson6882it’s not sugar coating dude. How do you know that people who go to hell are wishing that someone rudely told them the Gospel in a harsh way? You wouldn’t know because they are already dead. What if people in hell wished they knew about someone who loved them deeply and wanted them to be with Him. The reality is that hell is scary because it is separated from Gods love. Not because of your works based, fear based ideology.
He preaches so wonderful. He’s very convincing. I hope he never gives up preaching. He’s a good man. God bless him 🕊️
You know who is also very convincing and very charismatic and very knowledgeable....SATAN
his name is Godlogic aka Avery
I LOVE this interaction & reaction!! So beautiful!!❤🙏🙏❤️
God bless this young man preaching🙏
This is how I deal with the "Who created God?" question. Time only exists in a physical space and for those governed by it. God is external to this system, just as I am external to a scale model diorama I create.
This is how to deal with those who think "science first" too. This is a marvelous video! That guy Immaculate.
"You're asking me who created God, but you're also claiming nobody created the universe?"
@@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou. Good one. Ima use that one day lol
@@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.
Interesting
@@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou. Nice. So you admit that the Universe didn't need the Creator. If God can be eternal so can the Universe. Otherwise you're committing a special pleading fallacy.
That definitively planted the God seed on that old man's heart. Great Job Preacher! God bless!
It only works on children or stupid people.
this is definetly not the Christian concept of god lol in christianity god is a man who was killed and hung on a cross by his creation. He is using the Islamic argument of god as he has debated many Muslims and lost every debate. He has watched many videos of atheists coming to Islam through these intellectual arguments. It seems Avery is trying to shine with the same logic that defeated him. That description of god us the Islamic one and cannot be jesus. You're welcome.
Many of us act agreeable so you leave us be. You seem to forget that YOUR CHOSEN religion is YOURS, not mine.
@@vicom134 I can feel your resentment, it is ok God still loves you and will forever wait for you.
Love to see all these young brothers and sisters nailing the word with wisdom❤ Jesus Bless them😊
God is amazing ❤ Praise our Lord and Savior. God loves each and every one of us . God bless you all Amen 🙏
I'm not the intellectual person so my testimony is prompted by the Holy Spirit. We who cannot debate with our minds can be of service to God as well. We tell our personal story of what, the living God, our Creator, has done in our lives. I am an eyewitness, when the Holy Spirit is within a person, there is a glow, a warmth, a light coming from that person that is inexplicable!!! It is incredible to witness and magnetic to those around them... I equate this experience to being around Jesus when He was walking the earth. I praise the living God for the gift of His Spirit to those who are Born Again Believers!!! ✝️🙏🕊️❤️
As a more analytical Christian, I appreciate your testimony so much. I find myself falling flat oftentimes when what a person really needs to an emotive testimony rather than a logical one, because I myself am not very emotive. I wish I had that spiritual experience as others of my friends or family have had, but instead my ascent to Christ has been almost entirely logic based. I believe though, that I am this way and you are that way so that we can serve God and his people in unique ways. If we were all the same, then life would have no purpose. Instead, I am made to think the way I think and you are made to think the way you think so that all people can be served. If you ask me, that's part of the true beauty of our God.
Beautifully put - both the comment and the reply!! As someone with a strong intellect and emotional appeal, I’m alway caught between the two in an internal debate. While I’m more extreme in other aspects of my personality (less structured) and depend on other believers, I see my strong mind and heart as an opportunity to bridge the gap of understanding by people across this spectrum and to connect with a broader array of people, which is perfect as I’m going into Biblical counseling.
Bless all your work 🙏🏼
You basically just said "I'm ignorant and can't back up my claims and assertions with any kind of evidence or proof"...and you sound PROUD of that.
Ignorance is not a virtue. Faith is useless. Believing in something you can't prove to be true means you are the victim of a con and living a lie. Try being proud of that.
AMENNNN MY SISTER IN CHRIST!! PRAISE BE TO JESUS CHRIST… HES FAITHFUL AMEN 🙌🫶❤️
My boy Avery 🙌🏾
GodLogic ❤
YUP!
GODLOGIC APOLOGETICS
My guy Avery
🎶 its God, its God, its God, Logic 🎶
Who has no wisdom at all
@@She_iswise that's a question you're asking.. the answer is Muhammed.. Muhammed didn't have wisdom Avery is very bright and has a lot of wisdom
His mind was opened I pray his heart will be touched by our Lord Jesus Christ
Dude he was obviously preaching about Islam. You Christians don't believe in an omniscient god. Your god apparently made a child, making children is an attribute of his creation.
you mean our Lord Allah, right ? Because everything the man said applies to Allah too. It doesnt have to be Jesus
@@baiwuli6781let it rest, we don’t need a religion war in this comments section. You believe in Allah, this person believes in Jesus, and I believe in nothing
Yet if anyone rejects Allah you're permitted to un@live them.. because of j1h@d, right?
@baiwuli6781 Your God is our God, Jesus is in the Quran. You guys just peppered in some paganism, come back to the true way and walk with Christ. Muhammed was a child groomer.
Goosebumps ❤🙏 these conversations are so precious
The whole conversation he has with this guy is great! Definitely worth a watch.
Where find video?
@@youngking0704 ua-cam.com/video/AhCoiHvVQB4/v-deo.htmlsi=s0lSFZqMuGHZFhu6
Not a religious man but this feels like how preaching was meant to be practiced
The power of the Word is Eternal! First was the Word. The Word was Good and With God! Hansomely said!
"It's God. It's God Logic."
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yooo@@GodLogicApologetics
@@GodLogicApologeticswoah he who was blessed by The God who created logic. Insanely blessed!!! 🎉❤
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God has to exist becuase god is god! hilarious.
I’m seeing something beautiful raising up that is something perhaps not seen before, or at least not to my knowledge.
A bright new generation of gentlemen are emerging, knights of christ coming together to celebrate and praise the lord in a way not seen since many centuries at least.
Most videos I watch of men in the past are men doing all kinds of stuff except ask questions about God and creation and bring true wisdom to our lives.
You saw people talking about this video game, that company, gossip here and there, everything but God.
But this new generation of gentlemen are strong as steel, pure rocks of strenght and wisdom. It’s something so beautiful it moves me to tears, this new generation will be responsible to lead humanity into God our true destination.
The grace of God is infinite and goes beyond the material world, but God also brought us to life to experiment the inmense joy of living and being creatures of his universe.
To be witnessess of the true nobleness of men that choose right over wrong, God glory forever, dear lord thank you so much!!!
so, why does that clock showed in the video have "IIII" as four and not "IV"
The young man got that whole rhetoric from a street preacher. Good on him for passing it along where it may not have gotten shared.
Avery!!! ☺️☺️ We love Avery! Brilliant man of God!!
I've used these same points, and many more, over the last 25 years while debating with non-believers. It's effective to tear down their strongholds of false belief and open them to hearing the Gospel of Jesus!
Whats your technique to debunk evolution?
Could you do it in say, 60 seconds or less as GodLogic did?
Im asking because I need a quick approach because I’m not the guy who has a short and quick response and I need some help
@@sethl7858 Even if you would be able to debunk evolution, it wont bring you any closer to prove that "God did it."
@@tjblues01 someone or something set it by design. If not evolution, what or who? I believe in the Big Bang in a sense as God spoke and bang it immediately happened. When we say God it could be anyone or anything not specifically directed towards the God of the Bible. God is a title anyhow not really a who or how or what because he’s one what with three who’s. We may not know what it is but we can know what it is not.
@@tjblues01 why don’t you believe in God?
I don't think so. This argument is older than Garden of Eden and weak as nonalcoholic beer.
Conversion starts with: If this God is real would he be worthy of your service? Would you believe in God?
Timeless, immaterial, omnipresent, etc. these presented attributes of this god don't warrant that he's ought to be worshipped.
The whole argument is based on "whatabooutism", what if's.There just claims without any evidence to make them true.
My pastor just spoke about this last Sunday. Ephesians 4:15 - Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.
“Ur smart!” 😂 ❤️ Pray for this man
Operating from the position of Love is key in these otherwise confusing and fearful times!!! Thank you for posting and all the work that this entails !!! Keep your armor tight brothers and sisters for the principalities of power that we face know no earthly bounds!!!
This is Avery, thank God for all the people he is using in the area of apologetics and reasoning. God bless you guys 🙏🏽
this is definetly not the Christian concept of god lol in christianity god is a man who was killed and hung on a cross by his creation. He is using the Islamic argument of god as he has debated many Muslims and lost every debate. He has watched many videos of atheists coming to Islam through these intellectual arguments. It seems Avery is trying to shine with the same logic that defeated him. That description of god us the Islamic one and cannot be jesus. You're welcome.
this is definetly not the Christian concept of god lol in christianity god is a man who was killed and hung on a cross by his creation. He is using the Islamic argument of god as he has debated many Muslims and lost every debate. He has watched many videos of atheists coming to Islam through these intellectual arguments. It seems Avery is trying to shine with the same logic that defeated him. That description of god us the Islamic one and cannot be jesus. You're welcome.
What reasoning?😂
@@FourDeuce01 what sense are you trying to make though? 😂
He was caught lying in debate with sheikh Utman lol( one message foundation)
This man has the most intelligent, scientific, yet practical, and relatable approach to witnessing I've ever seen.
This guy was awesome. I could see The Lord using to peak this gentleman's interest. Praise God!
Let’s stay in prayer for that brother in Christ that God uses him effectively in peoples lives.
Let’s us pray that God opens the eyes and heart of that atheist to REPENT of his sinful lifestyle and come to Jesus by faith.
I’ve been doing Frontlines Street Witness for years and it’s not always like that sometimes people get angry.
Even if you just ask them this question:
“If you were to die today(God forbid) are you 100% sure you’re going to Heaven?” and give them a Gospel Tract.
Praying does not work. Why would it.
@@83Bongo
I’ve been praying for over 24 years now and God been working in my life
@@davidbermudez7704 It's a proven fact that praying does not work. If it did, it would be measurable..... It's not.
@@davidbermudez7704 "I’ve been praying for over 24 years now and God been working in my life"
So you've been so selfish all this time that you haven't prayed for world peace and end to hunger. If god's been working, and you prayed for those, we would already have them, but no. So you didn't. Just your own selfish shyte.
I guess granting your wishes is more important than preventing all those people from dying in Gaza and Israel....
@@9y2bgy
No, I “pray without ceasing” in various things especially peace in this world each time I hear about famine, tragedies, injustices, poverty, murder and so forth I pray.
I pray in everything even for my enemies like Jesus taught in Matthew 5.
In Philippians 4:6-7 we read:
6Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
God bless you
See, we need more people to preach like this man and also how kind the old man was just warmed my heart. Most people, when I talk about christ they shut me down. I still pray for them to this day.
Warning someone of hell fire is love!!! People take the truth as harsh, but once people end up in hell they will wish people didnt suger coat it & tell them they can keep living the way they are & go to heaven. A professor doesnt suger coat his expectation you need to meet to be accepted into harvard so why should a pastor sugar coat the truth & have you miss out eternity with GOD. Dont be upset brother if they dont listen to your message even if you were super nice & sugar coat it they will believe they can still live worldy & accept JESUS keep doing HIS work brother GODbless you brother in CHRIST
@@aliashudson6882 God bless you too brother
Many street preachers will always scream if you don't believe in God or don't repent of your sins you will go to hell... instead of bringing more people to God they're literally pushing them away from God
God reaches those in the way that resonates with them. He knows what each of us respond to and will send it in ways that pique our attention and convict us. There is no one way that can happen, but only through Him can it happen His way. It’s just up to the person to receive or reject it. Unfortunately many will reject and will remember when God tried to get their attention.
@@aliashudson6882 look, I agree,
(To an extent). We only plant seeds, God is the one that determines if the seed will grow and bear spiritual fruit. Not everyone needs to hear that they're going to hell from us. That being said, all believers must come to a place of conviction/repentance. I just believe that God uses different methods to strike at the heart of those He knows will be saved. Yes, Jesus is the only way to God (and Jesus is the Lord in flesh), but sometimes people need a kind word of encouragement, while others just need to hear the 'turn or burn' gospel. As long as we are speaking the Truth, and the words the Spirit is giving us, then we're doing what is right in the Lord's eyes.
This made my day, I hope this man finds Jesus.
Makes me smile. He sounds just like my youngest brother, who’s live for the eternal, all loving Creator/Savior is unlike anyone’s I know.
I love this. In all my years when I used to speak to people randomly and approach them with the same question "Hi, can I ask you a question" they would reply " yes okay" I would ask " Do you believe in God?", NOT ONE PERSON was rude, disrespectful, in fact I always had a cordial conversation with them. Because I was respectful and it was just my approach, I would GIVE THEM THINGS TO THINK ABOUT, instead of going in to **TELL THEM** or **CONDEMN THEM** that never works.
Love won me (Rom 2:4) so why would I not use **THE SAME THING** that won my heart?? ❤❤
Excellent example!! Love this video
You don't get to say "that never works"
Because it worked for me.
"You're smart!"... while dipping his shoulder to the right, and preparing to run! My dude was looking for a way out!
Considering the guy was talking about an invisible being outside of time and space… i would run too!
Not surprising.
Thank you for sharing!
Some people need to learn how to read people better. 🙄
If he wanted to vacate and not hear or answer any questions, such as rude degenerate like yourselves. Then there was absolutely no need for him to stick around until the end, tap him on the shoulder and give the young man a generous complement.
Definitely something most couldn't answer because they can't even comprehend the thought. Such a lack of intelligence to critical thinking.
One of the major problems with antisocial beings these days. It's too fundamental to debate elements outside of the box. 🙄
Did my comment hurt your fragile brain or would you like me to dumb it down into layman's terms for you?
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I love this we need more people in this world Amen❤❤❤❤
Amen in Jesus name amen thank you Lord Jesus I love you Lord Jesus I believe and receive it in Jesus name amen
You sound insane 😂
I'm of the Christian faith and Amen has nothing to do with Jesus...his name is not even Jesus. Christ has nothing to do with only Jesus either...the Bible does not have the whole truth for us
YAASS!! PRAZE GZEUS!
#GZEUSSAVEZ
#BUTHECOULDNTSAVEHIMSELF
Truth with love. Best street preacher I’ve seen yet.
amen, God bless you both.
THE TRUTH GIVEN TO HIM IN A WAY THAT CHANGES HIS MIND ABOUT RELIGION AND RACISM!!!! HALLELUJAH 👑
"This guy is smart." Smart enough to dodge his question...
I learned a lot from this video.
It was a master class on how to deal with those annoying street preachers that harass everyone with their nonsense as you pass.
1. Smile
2. Listen to his spiel.
3. Stroke his ego.
4. Go on about your day.
Nothing has changed. You are still no closer to proving your supernatural being you claim to exist - actually exists.
I thought the same when I watched the whole vid the first time. The older gentleman was either way acting atheist for the video or trolled the preacher with the huge smile on his face. Or... as George Carlin would say, he did give the F.ridge.
@@tjblues01or maybe he was being genuine. No need to be overly skeptical.
Or, hear me out, he’s just not an insufferable person like you. Just a thought.
@@incertosage Maybe. But people don't change their core believes on the spot because some silly arguments. It takes time, even years.
@@DookyButteror hear me out, maybe the street preacher is the insufferable one
That was brilliant 👏🏽 Jesus is King 👑 Amen 🙏🏽
yeah, right?
No.
It's silly and supremacist to believe there's only one right deity to worship for us mere mortals, subsequently making all others fake gods and those that believe in them, wrong and basically heathens.
Now go ponder wars and genocide for a bit and how they may have come about
Sometimes all someone needs in just a sign. You gave that gentleman another chance to experience the love and salvation of our Lord and Saviour.
AMEN!! TRUTH BE TOLD! GOD BLESS THEM BOTH..OPEN MINDS.🙏🧐 True to the heart.❤
GOD ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE! THAT'S HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME WHEN I WAS A TEENSY WEENSY LITTLE TOT! SHALOM AND AMEN!✝️✝️🛐🛐📛🕊️🕊️🕊️❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥🤰🤱🧬🤰🤱✨👑✨🦁🦁🦁❣️❣️❣️🌺🌺🌺😇🌟🤗🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦♾️🇮🇱🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅‼️
Prove it then!
@@Rob-fc9wgprove you're real sir, and ill use the same logic to prove God is real. God bless...
@@azietheazie
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Surely you are joking!
I could physically meet and talk to you.
Can your imaginary friend do that?
@@Rob-fc9wg im not joking. If you really want to meet up with God you can. Same logic. God bless..
@@Rob-fc9wg Imagine it's night time and you turn away from the moon. Do you still believe the moon is there? How can you be so sure? Maybe it only reveals itself when you look and disappears when you look away.
So you can't prove it. What do you do? You get a second person to confirm it.
But for that you would have to trust the other person. Not only trust their word, but also in their existence.
The love you have for your family is very real, but you can't prove it. We know it's real, beause everybody experiences it.
Denying that there is SOMETHING different from the physical realm, Believing that you are more than just a mindless process of particles, that means faith. And ever single person kinda already admits that, because you have to exist before you can deny your existence in the first place.
God shows himself everywhere. Science can explain how the stars came to be in that exact spot in the sky, but it can't explain why it's so damn beautiful.
Art, Music, Language all of that reflects the divinity that humans have in them. It is more than just the number of atoms we are made of.
"In the beginning God created all the bits that we understand and all the bit that we don't yet."
It's not that I just randomly chose to be christian. Logically it makes sense for me to believe.
I read the bible and tried to understand what message those people wanted to convey 2000 years ago. I haven't found a single message that would impact me negatively in any. Those are wisdoms about human nature, that people thought really hard about and captured in timless formats of metaphors and parrables.
It's on you to understand what they wanted to convey.
My man Kent Hovind would be proud 👏🏽
Kent won that debate with that answer. 🙏🏼
Love wins all!! That is why our speech and way of preaching and living our lives matter!! Witouth love there is no gain, only negative loss
Not everyone will be saved. It never ceases to amaze me how much faith people who hate God have.
This is beautiful. A seed was planted. God knew the two of them would meet one day and He knew what to put inside of the believer to pierce the heart of the unbeliever ❤.
That's called trying to define a god into existence.
Exactly. He failed hard here.
*God
@@bigjoe8612 I like to keep the word "god" in lowercase every time I use it...out of disrespect.
@@bibleburner8426 LOL, I'm sure you have accomplished so much in your life including sucking air and bothering people. Your mission in life and you have so much to be proud of. You have made this world a better place for nobody.
god*@@bigjoe8612
Praise the Lord for the brother GodLogic out here doing great work.
It is so hard for us to imagine anything outside of what we experience with our five senses. Most people have a hard time, remembering the timetable, let alone, trying to understand the mind of an infinite God, dwelling outside the constraints of time and matter.
Avery. God bless the brother of the God Logic channel, very bold and kind.
I'm not sure how "bold and kind" it is to misrepresent scientific facts to suit your agenda 🤷♂️
@@idealmodernsystems science is a observation and report of what is capable of being observed. To misrepresent such you are either standing with inference that is more implausible than plausible. Are you inferring you have a theory for life as we observe it, that is more plausible than intelligent design?
@@floydwhite1338 On the contrary, I'm saying science doesn't know and may never know. Claiming to have answers and playing word games is intellectually dishonest. For example, the speaker in this video says that time space and energy were created at the same time. There is no evidence for, or science behind this claim. He then goes on to base an argument for a creator god on it.
So he starts with a misrepresentation of information, and then moves from that to a word games to build an "argument" for a creator god, all without backing it up with any evidence.
@@floydwhite1338- On the contrary, I'm saying science doesn't know, and we may never know. Claiming to have answers and playing word games is intellectually dishonest.
The speaker claims that time energy and matter were created at the same time.
This is an assertion with no evidence to back it up. There is no scientific paper of any kind that states that this is the case.
He then goes on to say that it was made by a creator god. So now he's claiming to solve a mystery by appealing to an even bigger mystery. This isn't an answer it's just more questions.
He then moves on to a word game.
Yet his retrieval style presents it as it it's an answer.
This is intellectually dishonest, and typical of most of this video's on this channel. Look out for this pattern: 1) misrepresent the science 2) move to a word/logic game based on this misrepresentation of science 3) make an unevidenced assertion about the solution to the scenario you've created (a god).
On the contrary, i'm saying we don't know and we may never know.
Claiming to have answers and playing word games is intellectually dishonest. The speaker misrepresents the science saying that time space matter and energy came into existence at the same time. There is no science / evidence behind this claim.
He then inserts a creator deity with no evidence. This is claiming to solve to a mystery with an even bigger mystery, but delivering it like an answer, not an even bigger question.
He then played a word game with the untrue assertion he's made about time and space. (during which he falsely equivocates "immaterial" and "spiritual").
This is typical of just about every video on this channel:
1) Make a misrepresentation of science. 2) build a word game off it 3) assert, without evidence, that the answer is a god.
Look out for this pattern in future videos.
Thank you sir! I’m am a believer of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. I’ve asked the question too, but was NEVER given an answer that made sense. So, I said, God will give me an answer in due TIME , if there is one, or it’s a question that cannot be answered by man, But it didn’t stop me from believing in THEM. Today, He, God, has answered the question! Thank You Heavenly Father for using this man. All be blessed and a blessing!
When he said "no body has ever.... this guy is smart" the holy spirit was entering the man and he realised that the love of God is real ❤and he's so worth of all indeed....
So people are continuing to reject Christ because of our lack of love seasoned in the same message we all preach.... may we speak from love not intelligence, intelligence is already wrapped in love🎉🎉
This is the normal "i don't know, therefore god" argument.
this goes both ways, atheists think the universe was created from nothing for no reason spontaneously and think thats a good explanation
Now that's preaching the gospel in love 🙏🥰💯. The Lord God Almighty is with you brother 🥳💕❤️💞💯
I don't consider anyone smart if they make an extraordinary claim and provide zero evidence to back it up. I saw nothing but wishful thinking presented to an old man who most likely wanted to move on with his day.
Time, Space, Matter. Nothing but concepts we came up with to make sense of what we don't know.
God is not controlled by time, space and matter, rather He will not be God! I love you Jesus! In Jesus' name we pray! Amen❤️
Isn't that God logic?
Yes
Yes but the god of the Bible hates mankind having knowledge. It is said this is the reason he cursed mankind. Now doesn't it make sense he's a powerful God? Remember the Bible says God is unchanging. But he does repent in one of the many stories of God's blunders called the Old Testament.
@@somewhatinformed1208 ”The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.“
Proverbs 1:7 ESV
@@somewhatinformed1208 ”How much better to get wisdom than gold! To get understanding is to be chosen rather than silver.“
Proverbs 16:16 ESV
@@somewhatinformed1208 what are you talking about?
The street preacher forgot one argument: since God decided to create the universe, He is personal, with will. It proves God is not only external to this system, but also personal. (But it's kind of implicit in what he said.)
Your frivolous claims are not true. Meet the burden of proof then we'll take your slop seriously.
@@apophenic_ well, the claim is not that this is 100% proof. The claim is that this explains better than the atheist alternative.
@@roblemeire9441 it does not. You have completely misinterpreted occam razor. There are a thousand times more assumptions one must make to assert a god. You don't get the luxury of ignoring every step of evidence leading up to your assertion.
How you can even say that is clearly indicative of your lack of interest and rigor. I'm actually stunned.
All these arguments boil down to is "Hey, 2+2=8, because the twos aren't actually twos because I said so.
I appreciate the line of questioning this went down. Bless yall.
It's very good to have these conversations
Atheist guy was just being humble
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
I think so as well. We have all heard the script before...
If everything had evidence, noone would use the word “believe.”
You'll see soon enough my advice is to not take the mark bc then you're doomed
@@lustwaffe9000 you can believe someone, even trust them.
Verify for yourself what it means to you.
But no matter, there will always be those with malice or a skewed outlook who interpret rather than translate.
If the universe is so old, why do humans only live for a split second? Why are we so advanced and complex billions of cells and dna it has no meaning!
But JESUS CHRIST IS ✝️🩸🕊️
That’s literally the definition of nonexistent.
…as a creation yeah totally
We couldn't see x-ray until we had the technology to see it.
Just as scientists are discovering there is something smaller than an atom.
Science is what we observe.
Belief is what we put faith in.
Just because God exists in something seperate from what we observe, doesn't mean he is nonexistent.
@@Nobumblegumforyou Belief comes from knowledge. If you don’t know something how can you believe in it? Faith is different. Faith is suspended belief in order to pretend you know something. You’re just pretending to know that your god exists outside of reality.
@@Zeus-the-mighty Belief comes from knowledge, knowledge that was brought by God to man.
If there was no God then there would be no belief.
I don't see your point??
@@Nobumblegumforyou you’re right. You don’t.
I remember as a teenager struggling with the idea of "where did God come from" and spending weeks in my own mind trying to think through the problem until I realized God had created this box of time, which meant he was outside of it and could go in and through it as he pleased. Once I realized the timelessness of God, everything else became super simple. If God can create time, He certainly could create the universe, He certainly has authority over His creation and He certainly can save me.
This wasn't "wisdom." It was baseless, ignorant assertions and claims. Proved nothing.
Exactly!
Some will say who is that? Before ye even have the PRIVILEGE TO ASK THE QUESTION? Students will say who else can say...without? 1ST. Living in front! Students will say what is who am I making many noises? In front of the shared I AM.
@@oliverjamito9902 Was that supposed to be english? Just more gibberish.
No, it's logic.
@@michaelevans4110 How so? Please prove the assertions being made by this bible thumper are demonstrably true. Go ahead, we'll wait...⏰
The Holy Spirit is doing His Good Work as always🙏
Humility is always better than gold.
God please lead this man to you! Amen 🙏🏽
,,Without time, God didn't have enough time to decide, to create time''
Don't believe that this is even deserves a response. If this is an eternal God then we deserve to be humble before him. That is the problem is that we question but don't question our own motives or bias at all. The folly and pride of us all is amazing and usually gets worse as we get older.
Even if he created us, which is not demonstrable at all, he's still the guy that genocided humanity at least once, cursed the entire species for eternity because two people ate a fruit, and killed a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy.
Christians will still find a way to circle around this though... Also the question in the video of "who created Him" was never answered. The old man gave up too quick 😅
@@FranciscoJ7 Atheists: "God is bad! he never stops evil, why couldnt he smite adol f?"
God:*uses a flood to wipe out evil that was so great it made creation cry out, destroys the caananites, destroys sodom and gomorrah"
Atheists: "God ended someone clearly evil, hes such a bad God, he has no right to end anyone! Also i am pro abortion"
Cant have it both ways
They werent kids, there were 42ish of them, it isnt made clear if they even got killed.
The penalty was clearly justified, to ridicule Elisha was to ridicule the God Himself.
Okay, I see your point, and I would like to ask you a question. Contrary to our claim, you believe and live as there is no God. However, when we die we will lose nothing for believing there is one God, but what do you think you will lose if there is a God who will judge you when you die? Is it not smarter to believe than not to believe?
And allowed you to voice your opinion. I wouldn't have been so kind to people like you but I'm not God. This world is full of egg heads like yourself to express your nonsense. It seem s like you would have better things to think about and do but I guess this is your mission on earth.
AMEN, MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER, GODBLESS YOU ALWAYS. 💯🙏
Love to see this! (Ps; the overbearing soundtrack would be better with less volume)
In order for a being to create reality it must exist outside of reality.
God isn't real.
"If we say that God has always been, why not save a step and conclude that [reality] has always been?"
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@mesplin3 Reality is kind of hard to define. Is it space-time? Or is it the field that space-time inhabits? If it's the former then based on observations it seems to have a beginning, if it's the latter then yes reality has always existed.
The conversation shifts towards a philosophical one rather than a scientific one the deeper you go. The human mind can only comprehend so much. The nature of reality is a pretty hard wall.
@@RedWhiskey000 I consider this to be more of a philosophical matter than a scientific matter anyway.
But if "reality" isn't the right word, then how about "everything" instead? If x is a thing (or any other noun), then x is a part of everything.
Imagine fighting this hard against something that is not real 😂
Of course, this argument presumes the universe was created and hasn't always existed as a static block of spacetime.
how did today get here if time has no beginning?
@@supersilverhazeroker Time had a beginning. Possibly at the Big Bang.
@@ChrisBrown22082 i was commenting on your comment which stated "and hasn't always existed as a static block of spacetime."
but in regards to this comment.. how does anything that we can observe and measure etc. energy, matter, space, which i assume you claim is all there is exist without time?
@@supersilverhazerokerWhy would today NOT "get here" in an eternal realm?
@@supersilverhazeroker Energy, matter and space need time to change. I'm arguing that time as a whole simply exists. There is no privileging to any moment as 'now'. All time has always existed and always will exist.
The Spirit brings His sheep back home, glory to GOD!
God is flowing out of this guy and it’s so amazing!🙏✝️❤️💯
Praise God's Holy love and mercy-Praise Jesus Christ 🙏 💖 🙌
GOD PLZ SAVE HIS SOUL HE SEEMS SO KIND 😇 PLZ MAKE A PLACE FOR HIM WITH US IN HEAVEN PLZ 🙏
One of the best testimonies or proof I've heard. I am a Christian, but this is awesome. I'm glad the older gentleman didn't get mad, he actually listened. Wonderful job.
Absolutely love your page. It would be amazing to credit the original video so that we can also follow them as well.
He’s right… That was a brilliant answer!
Timeless, massless, and spaceless is the perfect description of a thing that doesn't exist.
God Logic is a beast when it comes to defending the faith. Bless up!
This is why we need to spread the Gospel! You can never know whose hearts are open!! ❤❤❤
I pray for Grace and courage-boldness-kindness, love, and compassion to evangelize. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.
He’s whipping out his Thomas Aquinas
what he says is wonderful and from the HOLY SPIRIT - he has given himself to OUR LORD JESUS - beautiful as OUR LORD wants it to be
That mans response was priceless.
This is why we are called to help each other, sometimes it could take one co conversation and people will start to open up !
Once humans have knowledge and understanding, they will accept because someone took the time to explain.
Amen and amen.
That question is the only reason that I believe in my God
God is outside of...... Time, Matter, Space.
EXACTLY! AMEN!