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  • @peterjansen3846
    @peterjansen3846 2 роки тому +82

    Alan Border is, without a doubt, the most influential test captain of the modern era. What he achieved in making Australia the dominant force in world cricket will never be surpassed. Taylor, Waugh, Ponting and the others all stand on the foundation Border built.

    • @philsurtees
      @philsurtees 2 роки тому +2

      I don't think you really understand what happened back then. There was a LOT more to it than Alan Border, and while he played a part, he is nowhere near the most influential test captain of the modern. What a bizarre thing to say!

    • @misssusie2112
      @misssusie2112 2 роки тому

      I can’t speak for Peter Jansen but I believe Allan Border took Australian cricket from a time where it was pretty well at one of its lowest points (senior players had retired, when he was vice-captain his captain resigned and unexpectedly thrust him into the captaincy and he had a group of young, inexperienced players who no longer had clear leadership - amongst other things) and took the Australian side to an Ashes win and other achievements. Whether this makes him one of the most influential captains I’ll leave that up to people more knowledgeable than me

    • @rambhattacharjee1850
      @rambhattacharjee1850 Рік тому

      Very very true

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 8 місяців тому

      Then Clarke came along

    • @shivaunwhite4549
      @shivaunwhite4549 7 місяців тому

      ​@@philsurtees It's just his opinion. It's actually bizzare you calling it "a bizzare thing to say" 😅😅

  • @mickstunes6383
    @mickstunes6383 2 роки тому +99

    Still doesn't get the recognition he deserves for dragging Australian cricket out of the doldrums in the 80s with Rebel Tours etc. Without a doubt among the greatest we've ever had.

    • @MegaNarsinha
      @MegaNarsinha 2 роки тому +9

      Absolutely right

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads 2 роки тому +7

      seriously? any time that era is raised its followed by 'if it wasnt for AB' or some variation of same.
      Ive never heard him NOT get the recognition.

    • @NxDoyle
      @NxDoyle 2 роки тому +6

      Anyone who knows cricket and/or lived through the immediate post-Kim Hughes period is fully aware of AB's contribution to the game. His captaincy laid the foundation for the golden period of Tubs and Steve Waugh.

  • @muttleycrew
    @muttleycrew 2 роки тому +64

    He took Australia from a side who expected to lose into a team who expected to win instead and his stern captaincy and mental toughness foreshadowed Australia's dominance of test cricket in the decade to follow. After Border you get captains Taylor, Waugh and Ponting.

    • @brokenface1405
      @brokenface1405 2 роки тому +9

      exactly! he Led us through one of the most difficult times in aussie cricket, and set up the winning culture for years to come

    • @carntspell
      @carntspell 2 роки тому +7

      spot on. It all started with AB.

  • @robandhisresin13
    @robandhisresin13 2 роки тому +29

    Captain grumpy or not, Border was the beacon of light batting for Australia. He shone brightest during one of the toughest periods since the body line era, facing the West Indies in their prime with the pace attack they had. He dragged that team forward, his way and it worked. Legend.

  • @shahmianas8512
    @shahmianas8512 2 роки тому +21

    The man who turned it all around for the Aussies resulting in them dominating world cricket for decades. Had a huge part in the development of Shane Warne. Not to forget his amazing achievements with the bat!!

  • @henryosembo6463
    @henryosembo6463 2 роки тому +26

    Loved watching him play growing up. Loved the fact he was a no nonsense leader.

  • @alexmrnak3236
    @alexmrnak3236 2 роки тому +22

    All heart and guts. If i had to pick someone to bat out a day to save a match it would be Border every day of the week. He carried his country on his back for along time with little support.

  • @shadrianshadrach3804
    @shadrianshadrach3804 2 роки тому +9

    The greatest captain in all sport.
    This man rebuilt Australian Cricket and as Dean Jones famously put it “Allan Border is The Godfather of Australian Cricket and it started in 1986”

  • @davehall934
    @davehall934 2 роки тому +9

    I loved his resilience and character. Growing up as a kid in the 80's in Australia he was an iconic figure - for better and for worse. You never doubted his heart was all in! And occasionally there was some humour and flair... just occasionally :)

  • @lsimmo78
    @lsimmo78 2 роки тому +11

    He was always the player that Australia could rely on during the dark period of the 1980's. He turned an average Australian side into a good one and created the captaincy blueprint for Taylor, Waugh and Ponting.

  • @prescientselector3784
    @prescientselector3784 9 місяців тому +1

    Captain Cranky ! What he withstood from that fearsome WI fast bowling battery was legendary. A few years back I was on a plane leaving Brisbane. AB came on the plane and everyone just stood up and applauded. Rightly so.

  • @noirjacques3274
    @noirjacques3274 2 роки тому +6

    What a legend! AB’s longevity was incredible setting the records which by career’s end he still held:,most Test runs, most Tests as Captain and most Test catches by a non-wicketkeeper.

  • @adriang6259
    @adriang6259 2 роки тому +8

    I remember that was the turning point of Australian cricket, when he took the reins of a struggling team. When he handed reins over the team was the world's best. Good Job AB.

    • @cdn4767
      @cdn4767 2 роки тому

      I reckon the promise was there when Australia beat West Indies by an innings in Sydney.

  • @grav20
    @grav20 2 роки тому +3

    One of my favourite cricketers ever, and that’s high praise from an Englishman about an Aussie. He may not have been aesthetically pleasing, but he had limitless grit, tenacity, a will to win and led his country brilliantly for 10 years. A legend.

  • @damiancrawford71
    @damiancrawford71 2 роки тому +9

    When asked who inspires me when struggling to accomplish a near impossible task and who is my hero then AB is the answer every single time.
    One of the best presents I ever received from my mother was a book that she had asked AB to sign wishing me a Merry Christmas and I’m sure anyone who grew up when Border was playing would remember the next question after finding out the cricket score which in the early days made the current English team look like world beaters was is Border still batting? we could be 400 runs behind and 9 wickets down but while AB was still out there we always dared to dream

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 2 роки тому +6

    Captain of Australia in the forgotten tied test match. Brilliant leader for them in a low period.

  • @rajivradha
    @rajivradha 3 місяці тому +1

    I wrote this piece about AB in 2023:
    Allan Border can reflect proudly on a playing, coaching and media career that has spanned five decades, during which Australia rose to the top, not just in the modern era, but across the game’s history. His pride should be all the greater as he lived through Australian cricket’s darkest age before helping reshape its fortunes.
    From the chaos in the mid-1980s, like George Washington 200 years earlier, he led his country out of mayhem and into a golden age. As with the first US President, he could depend on the other loyal founding fathers in David Boon, Merv Hughes, Dean Jones and Steve Waugh. These five men were the nucleus on which one of the strongest cricketing empires was built.
    After Kim Hughes’s tearful resignation in 1984, the hangover of the Packer fiasco, the Chappell-Lillee-Marsh-Thompson generation ending and losing personnel to an unsanctioned South Africa tour, Allan Border was appointed national captain amongst the disarray.
    The unhappy period continued, hitting rock bottom in a humiliating Ashes defeat in 1986/1987. I remember vividly his drained look after the loss. He was hurting but refused to walk away. Aided by lieutenants and a new coach, Bobby Simpson, plans were implemented, focusing on fitness and character. Training had rigour and purpose, those out of synch were discarded. Allan Border was central to the approach.
    He changed his persona to become tougher with peers and ruthless against opponents. The respect was unwavering. An indicative example was a public scolding of Craig McDermott in a county match during the 1993 Ashes. Allan Border made sure the fast bowler understood his shortcomings and responsibilities.
    He cooled relations with David Gower and Ian Botham, leaving niceties till series end. On the pitch no inch was given, a battle-hardened warrior from a grief-stricken time, now obsessed that incoming underlings would not endure the same pain. Thus the expectation that players never displayed warmth, as adversaries may see it as weakness and take advantage.
    The 1987 World Cup win was proof of the philosophy change and then three consecutive Ashes wins under his leadership cemented a place amongst the greats. He missed conquering The West Indies by two runs.
    Through the lows and highs of the team, personal performances were maintained. He averaged nearly 40 against the mighty Caribbean team, almost 60 versus Pakistan and 56 in Ashes contests. Durability, pugnacity and bravery were hallmarks of his batting.
    Mark Taylor, Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting took Australian cricket to unprecedented heights but their successes are because of the foundational influence of Allan Border. Fittingly there is an annual award bearing his name for the leading national player from the preceding 12 months.
    Greatness is when one faces adversity, changes the downward spiral and ascends the summit in glory. Allan Border is the embodiment of such a journey, a lesson for us all and testament to the benefits of hard work. Deservedly, along with Donald Bradman, the greatest of Australians.

    • @michaelgpartridge2384
      @michaelgpartridge2384 3 місяці тому

      Beautifully written. Thank you for sharing🙏👌

    • @rajivradha
      @rajivradha 3 місяці тому

      @@michaelgpartridge2384 Appreciated! Thanks!

  • @briansukhu4392
    @briansukhu4392 2 роки тому +10

    He carried the Australian team during perhaps it's most difficult era.
    He defined resilience, mental strength,.he had a lot of iron in his blood.
    I hasten to add, he didn't have a wide range of shots nor did he bat and play with flare. He perfected his gifts, lead by example, he learned to be a captain, he wasn't a natural which makes his career and captaincy even more remarkable.
    He took Australia to near the peak of Everest, Taylor took them to the peak of Everest.

    • @cressida00
      @cressida00 2 роки тому +3

      Amen to that, and he was given the captaincy when Australia was on his knees. Those who incurred his wrath on the field for slack behaviour, will never forget it.

    • @damiancrawford71
      @damiancrawford71 2 роки тому +2

      @@cressida00 and yet those that endured his wrath are the ones who speak most proudly of playing under him.

  • @robharris6874
    @robharris6874 2 роки тому +8

    He`d be in my all time Aussie 11 !!

    • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
      @AnkitSingh-xl6pt 2 місяці тому

      He'll captain my dream xi from anywhere across the world.

  • @malcolmlee2935
    @malcolmlee2935 2 роки тому +4

    This bloke was one of our best ever batsman and captain and yes he could bowl , my idol, onya mate,legend

  • @mondop5270
    @mondop5270 Рік тому +1

    Still, to this day ( 2023) the only player to score 150 in each innings of the same test. And away from home to boot!... legend

    • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
      @AnkitSingh-xl6pt 2 місяці тому

      Only player to score a century in each innings of a test twice(both overseas ) as well as take a ten wicket haul(remember that 11/96 against the West Indies at the SCG).

  • @Malc4dead
    @Malc4dead Рік тому +1

    Allan Border is a legend of the game! I'll never forget the chants of "Border, Border, ..." as he left the dressing room to come onto the field to start his innings. They did it every time too at least as far as I can recall, and just for him, not for other players. He was adored by fans! As a kid from Tassie, I watched this many times on tv, though I did have the amazing experience of being part of that chant in person at the MCG Day-1 Test match v Pak. 89/90 series.

  • @syc9675
    @syc9675 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the upload of old cricket highlights, WWOS. Would like to see more of the old cricket matches being uploaded.

  • @user-kk4zw5jo4t
    @user-kk4zw5jo4t 2 роки тому +1

    What an honest and down to earth bloke. Like the way he spoke of his son.

  • @jupiter-8405
    @jupiter-8405 2 роки тому +1

    I always took Allan Border to be so tough and battle hardened watching for years, seems a humble guy here!

  • @BatMan-oe2gh
    @BatMan-oe2gh 2 роки тому +1

    I bought his book, Beyond 10,000, brilliant read. A simple Aussie bloke who loved Cricket and Australia. One of the Greats of Australian Cricket.

  • @jakenorthbriz
    @jakenorthbriz 2 роки тому +11

    Bloody Legend

  • @incognitobrown7782
    @incognitobrown7782 Рік тому

    Allan Border is a player and man I admire and respect. I just read about his health challenges - I would like to wish him the very very best. Amazing player and amazing human being!!

  • @mohanlal-tw5lp
    @mohanlal-tw5lp 2 роки тому +4

    Border was 'guts & grit personified'.....

    • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
      @AnkitSingh-xl6pt Місяць тому

      General George Patton was ridiculed as "Old Blood & Guts" by his men, quoting "His Guts, Our Blood".
      Allan Border was all "Sweat, Courage & Glory". His sweat dripping efforts on the field, courageously against all odds, bought glory for Australia for a decade even after he left the scene.

  • @ashtongoorachan5168
    @ashtongoorachan5168 4 місяці тому

    AB was a truly great player.A picture of grit and concentration. Simply a true champion. A legend of cricket.

  • @AB-vi3rt
    @AB-vi3rt 2 роки тому

    Great comments...can't add anymore to the praise of a great Aussie!!!

  • @SpivWiggins
    @SpivWiggins 2 роки тому +3

    Top 5 of all Australian players ever...

  • @harshaphukan5091
    @harshaphukan5091 9 місяців тому

    The man you would want to bat for you if your life depended on it! He put a big price on his wicket, always led by example and ushered the era of Aussie dominance for the next couple of decades. Huge respect from an Indian fan!

  • @SidewaysSurfDrinksHQ
    @SidewaysSurfDrinksHQ 2 роки тому

    What a truly class act AB was as captain of the Australian Cricket team. It’s rare to see a sporting “personality” garner so much widespread respect and show so much class and professionalism as a leader of a national iconic sport team. His legacy is unparalleled in my humble opinion. Good on him, a bloody champion 👏👏👏

  • @valueinvestor77
    @valueinvestor77 2 роки тому

    This is the man who single handedly led Australia through one of its toughest periods, to then set the foundation for the success of Australia through the 90’s and 2000’s.
    He is easily Australia’s greatest captain of the modern era.
    I’ll also add that he wasn’t the most stylish batsman but if you needed a man to see you through the toughest periods of extreme pace on green wickets or dusty turners with the ball turning square - he was the man.

  • @abhishektoshniwal
    @abhishektoshniwal Рік тому

    Wow cricketers used to be so pleasantly candid back in the day. Now it’s rare.

  • @johnpaepke5847
    @johnpaepke5847 2 роки тому

    A.B was my sporting hero in the 80s.He wasnt the prettiest to watch bat but definately stood out the most when our first11 needed inspiration

  • @gregsmith451
    @gregsmith451 2 роки тому +5

    Australian cricketers might owe Kerry Packer their livelihoods.......But Australian cricket owes Allan Border EVERYTHING.
    The Allan Border Medal is one of the very few occasions where administrators have got it right because the guy single handedly dragged Australian cricket out of the mud.

    • @shadrianshadrach3804
      @shadrianshadrach3804 2 роки тому

      I couldn’t agree more, this man revolutionized Cricket Australia without any great players

  • @DolFunDolhpinVtuber
    @DolFunDolhpinVtuber 2 роки тому

    My favourite player, managed to get his autograph once during a QLD 1 day match.
    I used a Duncan Fernley in my junior career.

  • @lewisgreen2957
    @lewisgreen2957 2 роки тому

    A great player and a top bloke. He was under immense pressure when taking over the captaincy. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺

  • @XaviRonaldo0
    @XaviRonaldo0 2 роки тому

    I came into cricket fandom towards the end of his career. I never realised just how good a batsman he was until recently looking up his stats

  • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
    @AnkitSingh-xl6pt Рік тому

    The greatest batsman of his generation, one of the greatest captains in cricket history, outstanding fielder, more than handy occasional spinner. If these credentials don't make Allan Border an ATG, then no Aussie cricketer after him(minus Shane Warne) ever deserved to considered a great.

  • @spaidz2
    @spaidz2 2 роки тому

    AB my captain. Helped turn around Aus cricket. loved him to the hilt growing up.

  • @royp7541
    @royp7541 2 роки тому

    Great player. Don’t see tough players like this no more.

  • @rambhattacharjee1850
    @rambhattacharjee1850 Рік тому

    Syperb mini docu... Thanks channel 9❤❤❤❤

  • @FrenchCutcricket
    @FrenchCutcricket 2 роки тому +1

    I'm also a Grumpy Leo like Border - I wish I watched him play

  • @shaunstelfox1718
    @shaunstelfox1718 2 роки тому

    He's the Godfather of Australian cricket

  • @robertterry1405
    @robertterry1405 2 роки тому

    He was one of Australia's greatest ever players.

  • @michaelgpartridge2384
    @michaelgpartridge2384 3 місяці тому

    What I love about AB is simply, AB. I don’t like his stroke play much at all, too agricultural. What I love and revere is his tenacity and his dedication. He made being tough and unforgiving (on himself, even) a universally-appreciated virtue of the modern cricketer. He is “what’s best in men.”❤️👌

  • @huepix
    @huepix 2 роки тому

    The Ozzy battler.
    Epitomizes everything good about Australia and its people

  • @kevinneeder661
    @kevinneeder661 2 роки тому

    A B dragged aussie cricket out of the dark and into the light. He may have been captain cranky, but merv showed us all that he was loved by the team,or perhaps just by merv, he did a lot of good work for aussie cricket. L E G A N D

  • @elgransenor1472
    @elgransenor1472 2 роки тому

    A true great of the game.

  • @mondop5270
    @mondop5270 Рік тому

    I know im getting old but as a kid in the 80s i watched the end of the lillee era, the border era, the waugh/warne era, ponting and clarke etc... i guess we are in the smith era, regardless of who has the C next to their name. As a west aussie kim hughes was the dude i emulated batting at school etc, drop knee drives😂. Awesome era for Australia from the late 80s but from the early 80s on , probs thru to the mid/lare 90s cricket was king in summer. Test and esp one day games were packed... tv had wvery game on... good times- i hope pay tv doesn't continue to take free view tv content from cricket- australia needs free to air lest footy etc continues its dominance of young talent...

  • @philharnett2884
    @philharnett2884 2 роки тому

    Best cover drive I've ever seen. Beatiful batsman.

  • @chriskolovos6143
    @chriskolovos6143 6 місяців тому

    Best Australian Captain

  • @chemistryset1
    @chemistryset1 2 роки тому

    Would love to see any more of that footage of Border's 98n.o. (and a 100 in the 2nd innings if memory serves) against the West Indies @ Port of Spain - I wasn't aware any existed ...

    • @oshea900
      @oshea900 Рік тому

      There probably isn't any more. This program was from early 1993, so whatever was remaining is probably gone.
      I've only ever seen 45 mins worth of highlights from the 3rd test of that series.

  • @ronjeremy6128
    @ronjeremy6128 2 роки тому

    Legend

  • @FaizanKhan-rw7gt
    @FaizanKhan-rw7gt 2 роки тому +2

    Believe me "this was the best time to see cricket" bcz everybody wants to perform for his country not for money as present cricket is playing

  • @valueinvestor77
    @valueinvestor77 8 місяців тому

    Australia in 2023 - wins the World Test Cricket championship against India. Wins another Ashes series in England and then goes on to win another Cricket World Cup against India in India in front of approx 120,000 screaming Indian fans.
    This kind of result sits on the shoulders of giants like Allan Border, who set the mantle some 40 years ago.

  • @wespaul9345
    @wespaul9345 10 місяців тому

    What a guy. Never mind 173cm every Australian looked up to AB.

  • @manishhb7864
    @manishhb7864 2 роки тому

    wow. what a great guy. revelation. thanks for the video

  • @r.ssumedh7626
    @r.ssumedh7626 2 роки тому

    "You'll be on the next flight home".
    "What's that?"
    "You fu**ing test me mate, we'll see."

  • @mathewdeering
    @mathewdeering 9 місяців тому

    He was an averge bat, and an average bowl. But the guy had unmatchable fighting instinct and never gave the game away. Pure mongrel - and that's what Australia needed.

    • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
      @AnkitSingh-xl6pt 2 місяці тому

      Average bat who netted 11,000 runs AVERAGING in excess of 50 and was even better in tough conditions overseas ????

  • @bobhawke7373
    @bobhawke7373 9 місяців тому

    When all time Australian teams are announced. Border is 50/50 whether he makes the team.
    But let's face it.
    Any bowling attack having Border come at 5, and Steve Waugh at 6, is going to have to earn those wickets.
    The rise of the Waugh bros, and Some maligned bowlers like McDermott achieving beyond expectations were great during the Border era

  • @stephenlewis6409
    @stephenlewis6409 2 роки тому

    Many batsmen average 50 these days; but they have never faced the likes of Marshall, Garner, Ambrose, Akram , Imran Khan and Alan Donald.

    • @chrishooper8260
      @chrishooper8260 2 роки тому

      100 percent mate. The barrage he took was fenomanle.

  • @lifelongbachelor3651
    @lifelongbachelor3651 2 роки тому

    one of the top three greatest australian captains, ever. easy. easily in front of ponting and taylor.

  • @KingFahtah
    @KingFahtah Рік тому

    They didn't interview Craig McDermott

  • @misssusie2112
    @misssusie2112 2 роки тому

    How can this sweet man be called Captain Grumpy? 😀

  • @diannehogan7605
    @diannehogan7605 2 роки тому

    Awesome batsman against spin. Not so comfortable against pace but still very hard to get out.

    • @chrishooper8260
      @chrishooper8260 2 роки тому +1

      Really. Did you watch him play the West Indians. Good gosh I think you may have him mixed up with someone else. All heart. I wouldnt venture out their to face those blokes and I doubt you would've.

    • @AnkitSingh-xl6pt
      @AnkitSingh-xl6pt 2 місяці тому

      The guy averaged 59.5 against pakistan and his only dismissal at the hands of Sir Richard Hadlee costed over a hundred runs. In addition, in back-to-back series against the West Indies pace attacks, he averaged in excess of 65 for just under 900 runs.
      Not so comfortable against pace ????

  • @mykol1842
    @mykol1842 2 роки тому +1

    should be Sir Allan Border he could bowl a bit to

  • @thinkingmind9816
    @thinkingmind9816 2 роки тому

    His entire career was contained in the peak of windies cricket, spent the whole of his career trying to win the Frank Worrell Trophy but couldn't

  • @philsurtees
    @philsurtees 2 роки тому

    Interesting about the pessimism; at the end his natural instinct is that his son won't do as well as him, then he kind of pulls himself up when he realises that, well, perhaps he could.

  • @TheAusJT
    @TheAusJT Рік тому

    The interviewer looks like Graeme Swann's long-lost twin brother separated at birth!

  • @Jockslad
    @Jockslad 2 роки тому +1

    Ahh back when a 23 young lad looks 40

  • @PakFan786
    @PakFan786 Рік тому

    Alan Borders helmet, doesn't he wear a Grill in front of the helmet ?

  • @sherlockholmes539
    @sherlockholmes539 2 роки тому +1

    I was gutted when I learned of the cheats Warner & Smith. They should been banned for life. Could you imagine A.B. Doing that? "Carrying others is too hard, lets just cheat instead"

    • @gmarshall1026
      @gmarshall1026 7 місяців тому

      Warner and Smith low live cheats would not put them in the same class as A B

  • @flash-uj6ly
    @flash-uj6ly 5 днів тому

    Allan Border is a Psycho.

  • @Altiar253
    @Altiar253 2 роки тому

    great test player! below average ODI player to be honest he was a terrible ODI player! overall a legend but an average legend haha

    • @chrishooper8260
      @chrishooper8260 2 роки тому

      What crap. Fancy calling Allan Border below average. Youd be a gun ay.

  • @hrwedsash
    @hrwedsash 2 роки тому +1

    4:38 white ball with white uniforms

    • @chemistryset1
      @chemistryset1 2 роки тому +1

      nice pick-up - would have been challenging facing the West Indies attack, at night, with the white-on-white. Yikes.

    • @hrwedsash
      @hrwedsash 2 роки тому

      @@chemistryset1 Jeff Thomson and Lillee would have been even more challenging. Since atleast West Indians had black hands

    • @chemistryset1
      @chemistryset1 2 роки тому

      @@hrwedsash yes another good point.

  • @jasonr9465
    @jasonr9465 2 роки тому

    took the fun out of cricket its probably why people hated playing with him if he was nice Australia would have done better

    • @mattrodger7097
      @mattrodger7097 2 роки тому +3

      Disagree. AB was the right captain for the right time. Australia needed a tough and disciplined captain at that time.

    • @chemistryset1
      @chemistryset1 2 роки тому

      Are you kidding???
      Australia were horrible for a few years there and Border was the only thing that kept the team from abject capitulation on many occasions.
      He was Grumpy because the rest of the team did not pull their weight for a long time - eventually players like Geoff Marsh, David Boon, Dean Jones and Merv Hughes became bigger contributors; before that we were *terrible*

    • @chrishooper8260
      @chrishooper8260 2 роки тому

      U ok. Have a look what u wrote. What utter garbage.