I'm at the point where I just can't bring myself to give a shit about Star Wars anymore. Perhaps someday while visiting a friend, I'll see the TLJ Blu-Ray sitting on their bookshelf and casually mutter that I never saw it and they'll sit me down and make me watch it.
If they want to subvert our expectations for the love of God please retcon Luke's death. Just whatever nonsense they have to make up at this point it doesn't really matter all logic has already gone right out the window anyway so fuck it.
i think the reason he was confusing it was because on the ROTS dvd, theres an easter egg of yoda dancing to hip hop music. so if it was plausible to see yoda dancing then it was plausible for mike to see yoda throwing it back in a thong. a merging of the three memories
Thats way too pessimistic, Batman and other huge franchises are still doing amazing. I just watched the last one, and thought sure, it was a little more campy than the one with Danny Devito as the Penguin before it, but i thought Tommy Lee Jones was good. And Jim Carrey was turned up to an eleven, but thats Jim Carrey ya know? He is always that way and is always hilarious and will never not be beloved. So idk what you guys are complaining about. That franchise is still going pretty strong. That Schumacher guy directing will be nailing sequel after sequel till we are all long gone. Its Batman for chrissakes, how do u meas that up?
+Imperator Caesar Why the fuck does it matter? All he was ever going to do was sit in a chair and look ominous and torture Rey and/or Kylo just like the Emperor in the OT.
Because he's a Master of the Force. They never do much because they're either too enlightened or too much of a dick and usually too old to be on the front lines. Yoda barely did anything, the Emperor barely did anything, Mace Windu barely did anything, etc.... The high and mighty in any complex society get to pull the strings to make other people do stuff - that is why they are high and mighty - they don't do stuff themselves. And wise mentors have to just give advice otherwise they would overshadow the protagonist. To do otherwise would ruin their "mystique".
There was already a movie where a bunch of the heroes die, nothing changes and an endless space conflict is passed on to the next generation and it's called Starship Troopers.
Starship Troopers was infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars. Funny that at the time I just thought it was another decent movie, but by today's standards it's a masterpiece.
And Luke tossing that lightsaber was a metaphor of Rian Johnson tossing aside Luke's character from the original trilogy and the plot points from Force Awakens.
It rhymes. Also Kylo Ren's lines "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to." Is symbolic of what Disney's trying to do to Star Wars. They're literally trying to kill it.
The simple, horrible truth is that Rian Johnson writes scripts the way a five-year-old would tell you a story. "THIS happened . . . and then THIS happened . . . . and then THIS happened . . . ." with no attempt to connect those scenes or explain WHY these things are happening. Characters in "The Last Jedi" have no development, or they act in ways that don't make sense because the Rian needs them to act that way. Scenes are set up with a serious tone and then repeatedly undercut by terrible jokes. Things that weren't possible earlier in the movie suddenly become possible when they're necessary to advance the story. These things happen when a director doesn't understand what's going on in his own film and he has a terrible lack of awareness about storytelling.
@@KneelB4Bacon I suggest you watch a movie called Papadopoulos and Sons. It is the epitome of poor storytelling and pacing. The problem with TLJ is basically nothing fucking happens. And the little that does is not interesting or of any consequence. Luke and Rey training? No. Finn and Rose find the codebreaker? No. They disable the tracker? Nope. Any developments with Snoke? Nah oh wait he dies actually but we find out nothing about him. How about Kylo and Reys relationship? No. Who are Reys parents? Nobody. What do the first order and hux do and what is their plan? Nothing much. Chase em I guess. Holdos plan? Escape pods to a nearby planet I guess. Finn closure with Phasma? No. On the salt planet. First order pins down what's left of the resistance. They finish em off? No. Do the resistance push them back?. Not really. Luke shows up. What does he do? He stalls Kylo then dies. Oh ok. A universal trait of a good story is meaningful things happen. Tension is built up and then there's an exciting payoff, of some kind ANY kind. Building something up only to say it's nothing is rubbish storytelling, its boring, frustrating and is just shit. I am baffled by anyone who defends this farce.
@@ThePsychicFish 100% with you, still puzzled about the fact that apparently no one was reviewing his script. It's not even amateurish, it's... I'm out of words. A stoner's fan fiction or something.
"I thought we were being trolled, I thought: this is too dumb, it can't be real, I can't be seeing this ... I'ma wake up, suddenly, and go: 'oh my gosh, today's the day I finally go se The Last Jedi ... I had a dream it was REALLY bad'. - Mike Stoklasa. One for the Bluray cover...
The cliffhanger at the end of The Last Jedi wasn't, "How are these characters going to get out of this disaster?" It was, "How are these producers going to get out of this disaster?"
Has anyone on UA-cam added the return of the Jedi Ewok victory song to the part where everyone’s being happy-go-lucky aboard the falcon despite being reduced to 12 people?
I think The Mandalorian has answered this question. As long as they push the aesthetic of Star Wars without doing anything offensive (Luke being depressed because he was going to kill his nephew for no reason) and push HUGE amounts of fan service (Boba, Asohka, dark saber, dark troopers, Luke), people will eat it up.
@@therobotchickenMLP the idea of Luke in tlj was good, but just the idea. They did him so dirty. Yeah Mandalorian had fan service, but it is a good show nonetheless. It has good original characters, and the "Fanservice" characters are well done
Mansi Facio my go-to for the failure of Luke isn’t “He exiles himself after trying to kill Ben who was way less evil than the dad he wanted to redeem”, but how his last stand was presented. It’s gonna kill him, and he needs to fool Kylo for as long as he possibly could. So what does he do? PRESENT HIMSELF AS HOLDING THE ANAKIN SABER. That he KNEW Rey took to confront Kylo with. SUCH REDEMPTION. SO GLORIOUS.
Letting all this sink in, it seems like they literally had a 12 year old and his best buddy write this. "I just blew leia out of your cruiser with bombs", >"Well she's got the force so she flies back into the ship". "Dude come on that's cheating", >"No it's not she's got the force"
The force awakens - my reaction was much as Rich's, my hope was for a better second film. The last jedi - my brother, a huge Star Wars fan, warned me not to bother going to the cinema so I watched it at his house... somehow. What an utter horror, I think I sat in open-mouthed astonishment from the "Your momma" joke right through to the end, with a loud exclamation of "Surely this is a joke?" when Leia did her 'Mary Poppins'. Had I seen it at the Cinema I think for the first time in my life I would have demanded my money back. I've not watched it again, nor have I watched any subsequent Disney Star Wars nonsense, or even had the heart to rewatch any of the real Star Wars films since. Well done Ryan! ...I have watched this episode of HITB several times.
Gut Furnace couldnt agree more. i was thinking after watching the movie, where are we, whats happened? the answer, not much, other than rey is now powerful for whatever reason and so is kylo....the next thing is that jedi and sith are now no more?.....so actually the thing that these 2 movies have done, is destroy the foundation that its based on. so now what, its a new story? its taken 2 movies to break the link to the original trilogy? whats the point? seriously, why didnt they just make another star wars trilogy? episode 1, leave the originals and build around another time frame or the same time but different characters. im done with these films, however i totally fell for rogue one so i will watch the spinoffs, which is what i think they should have concentrated on from the start (but its disney, and like luke, they are milking us fat titty walrus freaks who lap it all up)
I really don't see the point of "let the past die" when both movies relies heavily on nostalgia and its a copy of the plots of ANH, ESB and RotJ. Actually, this trilogy wouldn't even exist without the OT. The past DOES matter and that's why you should treat it with respect, not just do whatever the fuck you want and making like the old movies never existed.
Watch Empire of Dreams or read The Secret History of Star Wars. It's clear that George had the concept of the whole story before 77. The completed script was too long, so he took 1/3 to make the original Star Wars. The destruction of the Death Star was supposed to be the ultimate climax, but he had to put that in ANH as well because he didn't know if he would be able to make the other movies. Of course, there's some plot points wich weren't established until later (like Vader's twist), but surely he had a idea of where to go, wich is more than the sequels now.
I don't think he planned it out but he was a consistent factor in it all. It sounds to me like Kathleen Kennedy doesn't care where the story goes as long as it has things for Disney to profit from.
You're going to make this argument? Yoda never acted like a fool in the prequels, even in the private presence of other jedi masters. He didn't crack any jokes or act like a madman or do the little Cosby shimmy Rian had him do, even in times of relative calm (i.e. when the shit wasn't hitting the fan). It was only after he put himself in exile after taking the Jedi Order's failure with Anakin Skywalker personally that he took on that mask. "generally someone who is a teacher will put on an overly serious persona at first, but when his student is 65 and he's a force ghost, yoda dont have to keep up that image any more." Greaet, good job trying to justify Rian Johnson's murder of a beloved character by pulling things out of nowhere.
Nice resorting to personal attacks instantly, shill. He pretty much started laughing about destroying the last remaining legacy of the jedi and leading Luke on to think that they were destroyed, not to mention doing that little shuffle. Then cackling and hitting Luke on the head with his stick. Yes, I watched the movie, and just like Mike, Yoda's depiction in TLJ - among many other moments in the film - made me think it was one big joke. Even when you point out Yoda's joking around in the Return of the Jedi as his 'true personality' and thus excuses him acting like a fool in TLJ, watch that scene again to understand - he made a joke because he knew he was about to die, and trying to make Luke a bit more comfortable in the awkwardness of the moment. If I came off as harsh in my first reply to you, that's on me, but if you can't argue worth a shit without resorting to insults look at yourself, you disney shill.
Cool, you never addressed any of my rebuttals. Have fun with your disney dollars. And no, I edited my comment so it was directly applied to you. If you're asking about my first reply to you, I didn't edit it - I stand by what I said that he didn't joke around like a goddamn madman like Rian had him doing in TLJ. Also yes, it was the first Jedi temples, and containing the LAST JEDI TEXTS. Which of course Rian had Rey steal, but whatever. It's easy to comprehend when you're not trying to scramble for a playground insult to insult me with rather than actually addressing my comments.
LOL. That De Culture guy completely missed the point of that scene. Yes, Yoda burned the last jedi texts in front of Luke. And that was the fucking point of that scene!!!! The ways of a Jedi is beyond some "page turners". Luke never realized that. Yoda reminded him. Sure, they could've have some exposition scene, but that's not visual, or interesting.
Yeah, just because they’re rebels doesn’t mean they can disobey orders Willy nilly. It’s a military organization, they tend to be pretty strict on following orders.
Myriad Works For example, at the beginning of TFA he would totally have escaped the planet if not for Kylo showing up with his OP sith sorcery literally pinning him in place.
@@RabbiHerschel You just described Western progressive ideology (because God & Christianity are dead in the West and have been usurped & supplanted by progressivism due to Man's inability to live without being bound to a higher sense of morality that instills the guilt & shame on them they fail to enact themselves)
"Rian Johnson's middle chapter in the current Star Wars trilogy is the epic you've been looking for." - Peter Travers, Rolling Stone "The Last Jedi probably does the best job of any Star Wars film of capturing the allure of the Dark Side and the spiritual turmoil that would lead to - and also result from - its embrace." - Christopher Orr, The Atlantic "It's sporadically interesting." - Rich Evans, Red Letter Media
@@viracocha smart people don't. For that matter, they don't care about what some fucktard soyboi has to say about movies or tv shows. We watch what we want to and make up our own minds. No job is as inconsequential or meaningless as a film critic
Yes Disney is a very powerful organization and like ALL powerful organizations you cross it at the peril of your career. I just think ANY film critic that could not see the giant plot holes and silly ideas, or not even mention the 'Your Mamma' jokes and the ruination of the biggest character in sci fi history is not someone who's opinion I will ever read again. They obviously dont know what they are talking about If they gave it anything different than all the comments here
To be fair, I thought Yoda's had his speech pattern, because he has no talked to anyone in two decades. But the prequels said it was because Yoda could not be bothered to learn proper grammar.
I personally didn't take it like Yoda acting crazy was a complete act. He was very old, and had been isolated for a long time. He obviously got more serious when that was required of him to train Luke, but nonetheless.
@@schwarzerritter5724 meanwhile Yaddle, the female Yoda species jedi, talks like a totally normal person back then lmao, so yeah you're definitely right
apparently yoda chooses to speak like that because that’s how his master talked, and so he learned that speech pattern from his master, yodas species doesn’t talk like that.
In Mike, the anguished and brutalized cry of Star Wars fans...who have been betrayed and forgotten. In Rich, the mildly interested “huh.” Of the common man...who is just here to be out for a few hours. In Jay, the world weary sigh of intellectual movie snobs...who stopped caring a very long time ago.
They're heroes, so killing them isn't enough. They must be horribly tortured and brainwashed until they repudiate the Republic and embrace the First Order. Like Winston Smith in 1984. I mean, there's the plot of The Rise of Skywalker right there.
*"I'm Rose. I was a technician at the start of the movie, but now on Crait I'm an ace-pilot. Also Finn I love you... Even though we've only know each other for 12 hours."*
Hmm would people have so much problems with her if she was white male I wonder. Also her sister was a pilot or something, they probably practiced together when they were young
Mayo Blaze I like her as a person, I just can't stand that cheesy line she says at the end. But that just makes me hate her character in the movie, not the movie as a whole
SAMCRO JT Fan Also this is basically the same issue with Luke in a new hope. "Hi I'm Luke, I'm a random farm boy but don't worry I can fly this rebel xwing." I know he like flew some other thing in deleted scenes but that doesn't count. My point is people just seem to be nitpicking this movie on an unbelievable level
“I’m excited to see these characters on screen again” - Rich Evans, pre-TLJ “I wasn’t interested in what happens to any of these characters after this” - Rich Evans, after TLJ
It was interesting to hear the guys say that because it's exactly how I felt after I got dragged to see the first new Star Wars movie. It was okay enough, a decent kids' movie with talented actors taking the piss like the original three, but it ended by saying, "Come back to see what happens next!" I came in not caring about that, and left not caring about that, and when your movie that ends on a cliffhanger can't do that for non-fans, it's a big, fat failure.
@G Ren return is a much better film, far and away a better film. And I didnt see rise because of this film. Stop necroing this videos comments with your shitty takes bro.
Benicio Del Toro looked like he was sleepwalking through his abysmal character. I believe the scene where he says to Finn that he won´t do shit without money or some sort of deposit wasn´t in the script. That was what he said to Rian Johnson between takes and they kept it in.
Pause Future oh gosh now I wanna have Yoda electrocute a tree, and then start booty dancing around the campfire in a thong lol. I would have laughed so hard.
Technically all the X-wings could have had enough proton warheads to actually screw over that dreadnought. The problem is, the Y-wings were all from the clone wars era. They are super old, and while they were absolutely amazing fighter-bombers, there were literally none left in flying condition.
@You tube what are you talking about? They literally only showed them the resistance symbol so they wouldn’t sound the alarm and then immediately left them. When they escaped, they only ever commented about the animals, not the slaves. This is one of the reasons why people think the script is dumb
I was 13 when this movie came out and didn't even like it as a baby boy. I remember my mom asked my what I thought and my first words after seeing it were "I have some problems with that"
I'm two years too late but watching this my same sentiment was echoed. From the opening scene of this movie I literally thought I was being trolled by Disney. I thought it was a grand joke they were playing on everyone. I thought "Surely this will get better", but it didn't.
Exactly. If a person wanted to tell the entire fanbase to piss off AND tear the franchise down to the ground in one giant eff you, then I doubt anyone could any better than tlj.
@@jackasschicken5922 exactly, literally stuck my middle finger up at the screen when the credits rolled, I felt like someone had been taking the piss out of me the whole film.
+EvanSol919-I appreciate the joke but I am legimately shocked that given the real estate in the story Rey's parents have taken up that this (not) answer was ever passed as perfectly acceptable-it is easily what is at best a dropped storyline (unless Abrams picks it back again for the sequel). Because the answer in the movie is simply not an answer, damn it. Even if Rey's parents are simply Mary and Joe Average who sold her into slavery for the money as Kylo claims (and assuming he wasn't lying to fuck with her and try to break her by saying she is an unimportant nobody whose parents didn't even want her and never loved her), common courtesy would dictate that since it has been brought up several times, their names should at least be known and Rey deserves to know just who her parents are, even if they are irredeemable deadbeat assholes. And even if they do go with this later on and it turns out Rey isn't a Skywalker of any kind (although given JJ Abrams' fan fiction tendencies, it's hard to believe he doesn't want to keep that in), it turns her from a complete Mary Sue to a textbook spitting image of a Mary Sue: a complete nobody brought up from nothing that is inexplicably awesome and perfect in everything she sets out to achieve without ever trying. I'd argue even the only thing "interesting" about her was the identity of her parents and that may be gone now, answered without ever bothering to provide an answer. It's common for JJ Abrams' associated series to pull this (again and again and again and again and no one ever learns) but this is truly outrageous. It's rancid. This is simply inexcusable and unacceptable, piss poor storytelling at its finest and it's not too much to expect better.
Fera Flauna Kylo didn't say that Rey's parents were nobody. She did... he just repeated it and expanded on it. I don't get why this is a problem for so many people. Anakin came from nothing... I think it's intetesting.
Snoke turns to smoke, and begins to raise his cape, flashbacks begin, we are brought to a familiar scene, jar jar Binks, dodging laser fire and beating up Stormtroopers unarmed. He's a sith Lord, and it's time for the star wars final showdown. Jar jar reforms where snope was once torn in two, he has his red lightsaber, it's time, kylo and Rey, the fight lasts 2 hours. Doesn't matter who wins who dies or what the overall message is, tell me your idea Saved your trilogy, gg, you're welcome
What amazes me is how so much happens and yet nothing happened either. It was one long slow improbable chase in space from start to finish with a number of side stories happening with Rey's lackluster training, a casino-planet heist that fails, a mutiny that communication would have avoided. They're running from the Nu-Empire at the beginning and they are running from the Nu-Empire at the end despite the Nu-Empire having lost a starkiller planet base last movie, two huge ships, and their supreme leader. They kill off Snokes without explaining how he revitalized the Empire or how he came in contact with Ren and corrupted him. They built up Rey's parentage then just dropped it. If they wanted to say anyone can use the Force I'm on board with that but don't tease a plot point over 2 years then reveal it to be nothing the same with Snoke. Then there's Luke. Why did he leave a map if he had no intention of returning? This is the guy who risked his life to save his friends in ESB and to bring his father back to the Light Side in ROTJ but here he fled while his friends were in danger and didn't do anything during his self-imposed exile. And why have him be a Force hologram seemingly killed by Ren then have him actually die moments later? Why not just have him go there and use some Force power to knock over the Walkers to show his power? They ruined and wasted his character.
"They kill off Snokes without explaining how he revitalized the Empire or how he came in contact with Ren and corrupted him. They built up Rey's parentage then just dropped it. If they wanted to say anyone can use the Force I'm on board with that but don't tease a plot point over 2 years then reveal it to be nothing the same with Snoke. " No one built up Rey's parentage except the fucking fans. Did people really want a 15 minute exposition on how Snoke rebuilt the Empire? We didn't need one to explain how the Empire in the original series came to be.
Mr. Science no they were teasing her parentage since the first movie. And no we didn't need a 15 minute exposition on Snokes so burn your strawman. What we needed were just a few lines of dialogue from different characters to build his character for the audience. Snokes is not the Emperor which is a self-explanatory title not too mention he was an archetypal character. Snokes is a character in a continuation story picked up 30 years later. I'm sorry but we need some kind of explanation how we got from the end of Jedi with the end of the Empire to this massive First Order which can build planet-size star killers, lose them then still take over the galaxy.
Irked me when Yoda said we learn from our failures to Luke. He already learned how to learn from his failures. In ep5 he couldn’t pull the X-Wing out of the water, failed the “test” in the cave, and lost to Vader in a duel. In one movie he learned the lesson and adapted and we see peak Luke in 6. Now it’s as if those events never transpired.
I’ve seen it a couple times since, and while it is the best of the trilogy (imo of course), I would only consider rewatching it with the ability to fast forward through everything but the Luke, Rey, Kylo, and Snoke scenes and the Laura Dern kamikaze, which is quite beautiful. I’ve seen this review probably 10x more than TLJ though.
I can't wait for the obligatory time skip in Ep IX that fills in no information and puts the "Rebellion" back into some semblance of strength, to be able to counterattack against a small splinter faction of the Empire that should never have been allowed to exist, after 30 years of supposed peace.
In the Episode 9 trailer, it looked to me like Rey was still wearing the same clothes and hairstyle. I'm going to bet that NO time has elapsed since "The Last Jedi" but they'll probably open the movie on an entire Rebel fleet anyway, even if it makes no sense.
@@joebobhenrybob2000 My point was that the writers will make a whole new Rebel fleet magically appear, even though the Rebellion was reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon at the end of the last movie. Rian Johnson went out of his way to f*ck up the trilogy.
@@KneelB4Bacon There will be a time skip of a year, it has been confirmed. So, if they end the FO vs. Resistance story in the last movie, that means that the entire war between the two will last a yearish…. yeah totally plausible.
When Leia flew out the window in the blast and floated lifeless in space, I was like wow, that was unexpected. It got to me and even made me teary eyed that she died. Then she immediately flew back in
that was the perfect time to kill her off, one because it was a huge moment and it was unexpected, and two because of the passing of the actress (the name escapes me at this point) , and then she mary poppins back into the franchise 🤦🏻♂️
Rian Johnson is in the firing line for the movie but let's make no mistake, Kathleen kennedy is behind the curtain pulling a lot of the strings. She is the phantom menace.
Sabre Flurry Its clear she's doesn't have the magic she used to in her heyday. Least we know TFA isn't quite all JJ's doing since the film and this points to her and Rouge One was a fluke
Sabre Flurry exactly people shit on the directors but Kathleen Kennedy is making a lot of the shitty decisions. Especially with the feminist agenda push. Idc if a character is any race or gender just give us great characters with a coherent story journey throughout the trilogy.
+OptimisticMan Right. Its easy to pick on Abrams, Gilroy, and Johnson but they don't run LucasFilm nor threw the old EU away entirely when they could've preserved the best of it instead. Between the in fighting that's grown rapid with fandom across the board since 2012, the dicourse lies at her doorstep and must be held accountable
These “new” movies made the original trilogies basically pointless. Because what the characters achieved there has amounted to nothing and changed nothing. In these new movies the original characters essentially regressed. They are old, bitter and miserable and Disney is killing them off movie by movie. Great fun. Now I know why George looked the way he did on the photos when he sold Star Wars. I have pretty much the same expression now.
You're placing too much value on the happy ending of a typical hero story structure. This isn't a kids cartoon. And it's metaphysical philosophy on Star Wars fan inclusiveness through character dialogue proves it. Everyone is romanticizing the lore of jedi and sith, good and evil when really it's all up to the world view of the characters. It's hypocrisy. "They blow you up today, you blow them up tomorrow." The bad people on the deathstar may have been like Finn. Is he still bad? Or is he good? It's all in his hands and what path he chooses. There was even good in Darth Vader and he was second to the emporer. What makes you think the storm troopers deserve death and the rebels dont? They both kill and are killed. Perspective matters.
Everyone, especially the villains, looked like chumps. Snoke? Easily tricked and defeated. Kylo Ren? Repeatedly and ultimately made to look like a fool. Huck? Vader would have smoked that guy in every scene which he appeared. Phasma? Still unimpressive. The good guys weren't much better. Weak plans, poor execution, and the only escaped because a secret back door was literally written into the script allowing them to escape. And Luke? Why again did he die? His death was so unimpressive that they might as well have done it off screen.
They don't even have to accomplish anything- in Empire, they were just surviving on the run. There just had to be some form of character development that's focused and impactful. Rey knows her parents are nobodies and has no greater understanding of the force. Kylo is still evil. Finn is the same. Poe is slightly less rash. Leia is the same. Luke is the same at the end as at the beginning. Rose is terrible. Nothing happened in the entire movie.
Here are the character arks that for some reason you can't see..... (SPOILERS) Rey - Starts the movie questioning Luke actions and why he wants the Jedi to end. Also at the same time questioning herself on why is SHE with Luke and what her place is in all of this is. She therefore decides that she wants to know the ways of the force so she can use them for the good. Through Rey’s training she starts leaning more about the force trully means and what can be done with it. Also her connection with Kylo grows when they can both can sense each other with the force. They both start understanding each other much more on who they are as people which allow Rey to really get in his shoes and at the same time feel accompined by someone. Rey also discovers who her parents and realizes that they didn’t care about her and were nobodies. This allows Rey to learn not only to let the past die and not be affected by that, but also to understand that she can be her own person, stay that way and her realizing what her past actually is allows her to learn to move on, develop and focus on her actions in the future because everything that she did in the past doesn’t matter anymore. She learns to become a more skilled Jedi, learns more of what the force means, learns what’s realy going on in Kylo Ren’s mind and learns to forget about the bad in her past and move on in order to become a better person since throughout the films, she constantly couldn’t stop questioning on who her parents. When she learns the truth, she won’t let that influence her and that turns her into a stronger character. Luke Skywalker - Stars the movie not wanting to be involved with the war between the First Order and the Ressistance since he came to island just to die and be away from the war as far as he can. But when Rey arrives and starts interacting with him, he starts discovering more of a soul within himself since he hasn’t interacted with a human in a while. Also when Luke tells the truth to Rey how he sensed darkness unlike any other in Kylo Ren which is why he tried to murder him during his training, it’s followed by Rey responding to him that maybe his actions are what caused Kylo to be the way he is now. This makes Luke question his actions during his conversation with Yoda and realizes how he just might be responsible for all those young Jedi’s that died in the burning temple. Later at the end he decides to use the force and project and image of himself to not only change and decide to distarct Kylo in order for the rebels to flee and get out since that’s technically helping them. But it’s also to test Kylo Ren on how he would respond to him showing up. Once he realizes that Kylo still wants to murder him, he taunts and fools Kylo until he senses that the rebels are safe and away. At the end he realizes he has done enough to save the rebels and dies realizing what he has done and therefore his death his peaceful and he has done enough to influence Rey and the first order including Kylo. He turns from a moody old man to a hero. Poe Dameron - Starts the movie ignoring Leia’s orders and decides to call in the bombers so they can blow up a giant sith ship. Even though he accomplishes that, all the bombers died during the process and during the film, he learns to take responsibility and act when necessary to prevent more people from dying. Kylo Ren - Starts the movie feeling humiliated since Rey beat him up with the lightsaber in TFA and Snoke taunts him with that. He also starts the movie feeling weak since Snoke is still the #1 Sith, Snoke outranks him and he still takes orders from him. During the film, we start to see that Kylo is done with being controlled by another person and he starts to make decisions that Snoke would not like such as him not shooting Leia’s room while fighting in his ship. All of this leads to the moment of him killing Snoke where he now has turned into the #1 ruler of the first order. Now that he is that, he has full control of it which is why later he stops attacking rebels and faces Luke Skywalker. Later when Kylo Ren realizes that Luke was projecting his image, he realizes that he has to start making smarter decisions and not being fooled if he is the #1 ruler of the first order. This for sure will lead into Episode IX. Snoke - Starts the movie feeling he has full control over Kylo Ren, later when Kylo Ren turns on the lightsaber and it goes through Snoke, he looks at Kylo one last time realizing that Kylo has turned more powerful than him and that he now has turned into the ultimate Sith lord. Holdo - Starts the movie wanting the rebels to like her and see her as a true ressistance leader while she had a different plan who she told no one about. Later Poe realizes what she was trying to do and the rest of the rebels start realizing that. Then when all the rebels are leaving to the new planet, she decides to stay in the ship alone which will make her feel like the rebels forgive her on her other plan since she’s staying alone in the ship in case of an emergency. Since the empire starts blasting their escape ships, with that knowledge she decides to sacrfice herself and crash into snoke ship with lightspeed so that the rest of the rebels can be safe and travel to the planet without more of them dying. Honestly the only character who was close in having a perfect ark but was ruined was Finn. It's because he starts the movie wanting to leave the rebels since he fears the first order, then later when he flying to the ship to the beam, he's sacrificing himself so others can live which is earned because in the beginning he was trying to ditch them. But later Rose saves him who is honestly the worst character in this entire movie and that ruins the ark. But despite that, mostly all major characters have an ark and THEY ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH MAJOR THINGS.
and a little round headed man does not have to understand the medium he is filming or have any actual 'talent' as a writer to take one of the biggest jobs in movie history get it. {he can also be an arrogant little tosser who believes his talent WAY more than it is}
Ron Wylie bro I beg you watch Brick and even knives out. Like this man ruined this pissbaby franchise turned around and made a hit in the next two years
@@ogfridgeman5546 RJ is definitely a good director. He just doesn't like Star Wars and botched it because he was listening to KatKen, who also doesn't like Star Wars. Every great has a dud or two in their history. It's just a shame Johnson had to bomb so hard with his. I mean, come on, bro. This movie will go down in history as a terrible mistake. Even if you like it, which is fine, you have to admit it killed the trilogy.
I think the worst part about The Last Jedi was (what Rich said at the very end): I am not excited for the next main Star Wars movie. There were things I liked about The Last Jedi and things I didn't but the mere fact that it just didn't excite me for the next (not by a cheap cliffhanger but building a story where I want to see how it continues) is by far the worst thing for me.
Ah we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance Well they're are no friends of mine I say, we can go where we want to, a place where they will never find And we can act like we come from out of this world Leave the real one far behind, And we can dance
They showed Luke's X-wing, suggesting he would leave, but he doesn't use it, Rey uses it, and Luke doesn't sacrifice himself, he force projects himself so he won't die, only to die. WHAT
The Thrawn Trilogy would have been awesome. A total relic of the weird time between when Lucas allowed SW EU stuff but before the prequel films happened. It even had a throwaway line that nearly perfectly described what Plinkett said the clone wars should have been (insane clones vs. republic). Too bad alot of the SW EU was hit or ridiculously stupid.
@@trollofjom its so cool. Freaking Revan a jedi turning into a darklord and establishing an empire to prevent a greater evil from rising up. So much depth with the earlier stuff. Now its just all trash.
I have an update for you! Kathleen "The force is female" Kennedy doesn't think comic books and novels exist for Star Wars. She claims they had to write a new trilogy from scratch!
((SPOILER ALERT))) I had a strange feeling as well when Leia woke up and floated back to her ship. But this guy next to me could not stop laughing hysterically. The theater was fucking packed and everybody was dead silent during the scene except for this one guy that was dying of laughter. I couldn't help but chuckle as well. The scene was fucking ridiculous.
I lost it man, I couldn't take it. I thought that was the goofiest shit in the world (among other things in this movie, there were definitely a few other weird things that made me laugh, like Kylo Ren's shirtless scene ).
IKR? And remember in Empire when that little green puppet picked up a spaceship with his brain? I was laughing so hard at how ridiculous it all was, and the dumb movie was actually trying to be SERIOUS. Bad realistic space documentary, 0/10.
I was laughing so hard i sorta threw up, i was practically screaming into my jacket, i feel really bad but god damn this movie was amazing for all the wrong reasons
The difference being that little green puppet didn’t feel like a little green puppet he felt like a character and the scene felt meaningful and important. The part with Leia, while I didn’t have a problem with it really, came out of nowhere and didn’t accomplish much. It was just bizzarre.
These youtube algorithms suck balls. I've been watching movie reviews on here for like 7 years and this is the first time I'm finding you guys. Amazing content.
41:32 "There was a period, a very brief period of time, when Star Wars was just a series of well-liked blockbusters. And now, it's not special anymore." That pretty much sums up the franchise and people's reaction to it. It used to be special. Now it's just another manufactured Hollywood product, devoid of any uniqueness. It's mass-produced fodder, rename it The Hunger Games or Twilight and no one will know the difference.
I dont think it was a brief period. The prequels, love them or hate them brought really cool stories with the clone wars and the jedi adventures, as well as the old republic. I think its just after all these movies and sub par shows like rebels and resistance and that princess like show is really bringing the series downhill
@Rob Melrose i grew up on the prequels, so I've always loved them. I also never mentioned the last jedi in my comment, I just said after all these movies every year, and these sub par shows, its over saturating the entire series, just like you said. Finally wants wrong with not liking the last jedi but still liking the prequels? Everyone has opinions.
I agree with you but the truth is the people that used to write, light and make amazing special effects are still there but they dont have the top jobs anymore
@Rob Melrose. Hard to tell what point you're trying to make. It's easier to like things as children? I thought I liked the phantom menace the first time I saw it, even though I knew I hated most of the movie. Didn't even bother seeing the next two in the theatre. Yet the prequel trilogy is at least failing to well execute an interesting story about how an absolute boss conquors the galaxy from the inside, and there is at least some cool shit. While TLJ isn't telling anything interesting at all, and the only neat looking stuff makes no sense. The lightsaber dual at the end of phantom menace makes it better than the entirety of TLJ
There's a general sense of defeat in this review. Like, ok... whatever, SW is long gone, now we have to talk about this commercial piece of garbage. Stars Wars today is a joke, a bad one, and these three know that.
It's been a joke for decades. Here's a sad reality check. The best shit to come out of this franchise has been all the content unrelated to the movies. It's basically the same as most franchises like Ghostbusters, Predator, Aliens and Terminator. The Prequel movies sucked. But almost all the material that sprung off from it proved to be superior. The Sequel Trilogy is nothing more but a lame watered down repeat of the OT but I won't be surpised in the least if in a decade or so fans start doing a complete 180 spin on it due to all the material outside of the films made them look better. If we're really gonna be honest there really hasn't been a great Star Wars movie of true excellence since the Empire Strikes Back. Everything afterwards has been one let down after another.
I think ever since 1997 that's been the case, the idea of SW being creatively bankrupt as Rich says is apparent now and that's why people are hating on it being unoriginal. The Prequels may have had original ideas in them, perhaps, but they're still terrible movies and always will be really. If Disney does less and less successful with Star Wars, them releasing the unaltered cuts of the OT will set them and the fans up for life, the mistakes of the past could be totally reversed.
The Force Awakens: a house party that tried so hard to please everyone that it was dull. The Last Jedi: a house party that decided to loosen up A LOT but ends up burning the house down. The Rise of Skywalker: the same homeowners trying to lull you back to the next party.
The implication I got from The Force Awakens is that the map leads to the first Jedi temple, which is where Luke is rumored to have gone, as Han Solo says in the film. So it's not actually a map to where he for sure is, as far as the characters know, but to where he most likely is.
Mark Hamill’s face after watching the premiere of this movie says it all. He looks utterly baffled, confused, and frustrated. I felt the same way after watching it.
Red just look up any of Hamill’s interviews recently. He genuinely despises what was done with his character and the new trilogy. He wears his heart on his sleeve and is probably one of the most interesting people in Hollywood to listen to speak about his experience in all of this.
He disagreed with the wampa scene. He thought Luke as a Jedi wouldn't seriously hurt the wampa because it was just searching for food in it's own natural order. It wasn't choosing to be bad or evil. If anything that makes what happened in this abomination of movie all the worse. I mean, he only stood over his nephew menacingly while igniting his light-saber and keeping it lit while thinking about killing him "for the briefest of moments." (nothing brief about the series of actions that took place)
My theory is that Mike's slowly transforming into Mr. Plinkett. It starts with dementia then one day all the videos will stop and we'll see him on the news thirty years later "Police raid Mike Stoklasa's home. Dead prostitutes found." Oh, and this movie is unfocused.
1. Snoke: got killed like a punk, back story is now dead. 2. Kylo: can beat Snoke, yet gets bested by the cheap Chinatown knock off red guards. 3. Rey: sorry kid your parents are drunk nobodies that sold you for beer and that's about it. (Rian recently confirmed this) 4. Finn/rose: wasted in a canto bight scene that could have been left out of the film. Rose falls in love after a few hours.. Lol (Filler). 5. Phasma: why even have the actor if she never took off the helmet and died a weak death. 6. Code breaker CJ: waste of a character. 7. LUKE: you disgraced our hero! Making him like that. (Shame). to state the dissatisfaction of this film is an understatement.
I don't get ppl that complain about Admiral Ackbar. He was always a C-list side character. Ppl only get attached to him because of a fucking meme. I don't like this movie but i also get annoyed when i see this complaint.
@@akulahirpada1993 The problem with it is they could have made a C-list character more important, but instead they pointlessly replaced him with another C-list character.
@@tommcguire633 They could've made Holdo an important character actually. But instead she's shown as a terrible leader and the movie expects us to feel sad when she kamikazed herself.
akulahirpada1993 Your not wrong in that she is written terribly, but she’s also incredibly pointless, her role easily could have been replaced by ackbar, the only difference being that ackbar wouldn’t needlessly spark conflict among his ranks by keeping his plan a secret for unexplained reasons, i’m guessing thats why they introduced her in the first place.
All the jokes about pulling the x wing from the water which had been sitting there for 30 years and flying it off world are even more hilarious considering that is exactly what happens in the following movie.
In retrospect when Disney bought Lucasfilm they should have focused exclusively on spin-off Star Wars films and not continued with a sequel trilogy. So much more potential, all new characters, droids and creatures, and they would have had less of a chance of ruining the brand.
You perfectly summed it up at the end. I have no desire to watch the next movie. There's no real conflict, no questions were asked, and the ones that DID exist were sloughed aside with nary a mention. That is completely NOT what the 2nd part of a trilogy is supposed to do.
The movie ends with Luke trying to start his X-wing, but it won't start, so he grins at Leia, as the credits roll over him continuing to try, because Rain Jonhson saw the Best Of The Worst episode of LoBlow
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"See you in two years, where they just blow up a superweapon again..." and that is exactly what happened
How can you blow up if you don’t know what up even is?
Fleet of superweapons! That's the whole twist. This time there's just way more weapons.
Wrong! 10,000 superweapons! 😅
It’s like JJ heard everyone’s criticism about Starkiller base and went, “Okay, you know what? Now THEY’RE ALL DEATH STARS!!”
This comment (unfortunately) ages like wine
I´m at the point where I´m anticipating these guy´s review more than the actual Star Wars movie...
*guys'
Ikr, they should start releasing teasers and trailers for the Plinkett Reviews.
I'm at the point where I just can't bring myself to give a shit about Star Wars anymore. Perhaps someday while visiting a friend, I'll see the TLJ Blu-Ray sitting on their bookshelf and casually mutter that I never saw it and they'll sit me down and make me watch it.
Decades now, down here.
+Aeronious Yep, the went WAYYYYY too soft on TFA.
"I wasn't interested in what happens to any of these characters after this."
My literal thought at the end of the movie.
@Super JLK I think it's more likely that they'll retcon everything that happened in TLJ with time travel like Mike suggested.
@Super JLK I think the people that like TLJ will like Ep 9 cause it says Star Wars in the title.
I didn't care about any of the new characters before this movie, honestly. These new movies are acts of cinematic crime.
@Lukas Nero Preach, man, preach!
...shit, now Disney is gonna make a "Salt-Crystal Foxes!" movie or some shit.
If they want to subvert our expectations for the love of God please retcon Luke's death. Just whatever nonsense they have to make up at this point it doesn't really matter all logic has already gone right out the window anyway so fuck it.
Mike's confession about momentarily confusing Yoda with the Garden Gnome movie is legitimately one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
better visual than the pizza roll demanding murder, like George added.
@@PyrokineticFire1 shit, which one is this? is it one of the prequel reviews? i remember laughing at that one
When they actually showed the clip of that gnome, I laughed even harder because it also looks just like The Amazing Bulk!
IT BROKE NEW GROUND
i think the reason he was confusing it was because on the ROTS dvd, theres an easter egg of yoda dancing to hip hop music. so if it was plausible to see yoda dancing then it was plausible for mike to see yoda throwing it back in a thong. a merging of the three memories
_"How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"_ - Rich Evans.
Your favorite franchise either dies a hero, or lives long enough to see itself become the villain
feels like everything I loved from my childhood is dead.
Well hey at least we’ve still got Mad Max
Thats way too pessimistic, Batman and other huge franchises are still doing amazing. I just watched the last one, and thought sure, it was a little more campy than the one with Danny Devito as the Penguin before it, but i thought Tommy Lee Jones was good.
And Jim Carrey was turned up to an eleven, but thats Jim Carrey ya know? He is always that way and is always hilarious and will never not be beloved. So idk what you guys are complaining about. That franchise is still going pretty strong. That Schumacher guy directing will be nailing sequel after sequel till we are all long gone. Its Batman for chrissakes, how do u meas that up?
@@stephentoth6003 Oh..oh god I don't have the heart to tell you
Length, structure and excessive misfirings of comedy are all complaints women have with me.
I laughed way harder than I should have, probably because I can relate.
Lol. You should start writing the jokes for episode 9.
Well at least their not making fun of the size of your light sabre. So unlike the movie there's a bright side.
nice profile picture, magma is an awesome band
excessive misfirings of... comedy
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Snoke Theories suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced."
"I feel like something wonderful has happened!"
Chris Williams well we still don’t know if he was Plagueis or not. The possibility still exists I suppose.
+Imperator Caesar Why the fuck does it matter? All he was ever going to do was sit in a chair and look ominous and torture Rey and/or Kylo just like the Emperor in the OT.
Because he's a Master of the Force. They never do much because they're either too enlightened or too much of a dick and usually too old to be on the front lines. Yoda barely did anything, the Emperor barely did anything, Mace Windu barely did anything, etc.... The high and mighty in any complex society get to pull the strings to make other people do stuff - that is why they are high and mighty - they don't do stuff themselves. And wise mentors have to just give advice otherwise they would overshadow the protagonist. To do otherwise would ruin their "mystique".
Ton Jones Let the hate flow through you. It strengthens you, gives you focus.
There was already a movie where a bunch of the heroes die, nothing changes and an endless space conflict is passed on to the next generation and it's called Starship Troopers.
I'm doing my part!
"...would you like to know more?"
starship troopers was ok
Starship troopers had boobies tho
Starship Troopers was infinitely better than any Disney Star Wars. Funny that at the time I just thought it was another decent movie, but by today's standards it's a masterpiece.
Luke milking that space cow was symbolizing Disney milking the franchise. It's like poetry...
And Luke tossing that lightsaber was a metaphor of Rian Johnson tossing aside Luke's character from the original trilogy and the plot points from Force Awakens.
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It rhymes. Also Kylo Ren's lines "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to." Is symbolic of what Disney's trying to do to Star Wars. They're literally trying to kill it.
...Had me puking in stanzas...
They rhyme
"It was all B-stories: it wasn't going anywhere..." I've never heard it put better.
The simple, horrible truth is that Rian Johnson writes scripts the way a five-year-old would tell you a story. "THIS happened . . . and then THIS happened . . . . and then THIS happened . . . ." with no attempt to connect those scenes or explain WHY these things are happening. Characters in "The Last Jedi" have no development, or they act in ways that don't make sense because the Rian needs them to act that way. Scenes are set up with a serious tone and then repeatedly undercut by terrible jokes. Things that weren't possible earlier in the movie suddenly become possible when they're necessary to advance the story. These things happen when a director doesn't understand what's going on in his own film and he has a terrible lack of awareness about storytelling.
@@KneelB4Bacon I suggest you watch a movie called Papadopoulos and Sons. It is the epitome of poor storytelling and pacing.
The problem with TLJ is basically nothing fucking happens. And the little that does is not interesting or of any consequence.
Luke and Rey training? No.
Finn and Rose find the codebreaker? No. They disable the tracker? Nope.
Any developments with Snoke? Nah oh wait he dies actually but we find out nothing about him.
How about Kylo and Reys relationship? No.
Who are Reys parents? Nobody.
What do the first order and hux do and what is their plan? Nothing much. Chase em I guess.
Holdos plan? Escape pods to a nearby planet I guess.
Finn closure with Phasma? No.
On the salt planet. First order pins down what's left of the resistance. They finish em off? No. Do the resistance push them back?. Not really.
Luke shows up. What does he do? He stalls Kylo then dies. Oh ok.
A universal trait of a good story is meaningful things happen. Tension is built up and then there's an exciting payoff, of some kind ANY kind.
Building something up only to say it's nothing is rubbish storytelling, its boring, frustrating and is just shit.
I am baffled by anyone who defends this farce.
Spoken like a true writer or proper critic. Yes x 1,000,0000,0000,0000!
@@ThePsychicFish 100% with you, still puzzled about the fact that apparently no one was reviewing his script. It's not even amateurish, it's... I'm out of words. A stoner's fan fiction or something.
"I thought we were being trolled, I thought: this is too dumb, it can't be real, I can't be seeing this ... I'ma wake up, suddenly, and go: 'oh my gosh, today's the day I finally go se The Last Jedi ... I had a dream it was REALLY bad'. - Mike Stoklasa.
One for the Bluray cover...
You know what? I couldn't agree more with that!
Mike is so spot on with how most of us probably felt as the disappointment set in as we sank into our cinema chairs cringing at the joke that TLJ was.
If that was on the Blu-ray cover I would buy it.
The cliffhanger at the end of The Last Jedi wasn't, "How are these characters going to get out of this disaster?" It was, "How are these producers going to get out of this disaster?"
Even after watching Rise of Skywalker I’m still not sure
Has anyone on UA-cam added the return of the Jedi Ewok victory song to the part where everyone’s being happy-go-lucky aboard the falcon despite being reduced to 12 people?
I think The Mandalorian has answered this question. As long as they push the aesthetic of Star Wars without doing anything offensive (Luke being depressed because he was going to kill his nephew for no reason) and push HUGE amounts of fan service (Boba, Asohka, dark saber, dark troopers, Luke), people will eat it up.
@@therobotchickenMLP the idea of Luke in tlj was good, but just the idea. They did him so dirty. Yeah Mandalorian had fan service, but it is a good show nonetheless. It has good original characters, and the "Fanservice" characters are well done
Mansi Facio my go-to for the failure of Luke isn’t “He exiles himself after trying to kill Ben who was way less evil than the dad he wanted to redeem”, but how his last stand was presented. It’s gonna kill him, and he needs to fool Kylo for as long as he possibly could. So what does he do? PRESENT HIMSELF AS HOLDING THE ANAKIN SABER. That he KNEW Rey took to confront Kylo with. SUCH REDEMPTION. SO GLORIOUS.
Letting all this sink in, it seems like they literally had a 12 year old and his best buddy write this.
"I just blew leia out of your cruiser with bombs",
>"Well she's got the force so she flies back into the ship".
"Dude come on that's cheating",
>"No it's not she's got the force"
As Han Solo said, “that’s not how the Force works!”
I liked Marylin Manson when I was 12.
@@PeacefulJoint Well, okay then. Hat tip.
18:40 "yoda requires more milk"
"Thats the central conflict"
Accidentally predicting the mandalorian lmao
@Gungey Entertainment noob
Gungey Entertainment ngl bro that is definitely not kek bro
@Gungey Entertainment yeah bro. Not cool man.
Gungey Entertainment Just stop bro
Joe Weigel
Holy crap!! I wanna like your comment but I don’t wanna touch it cause it’s at 666!!!
Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for more product.
I clapped I clapped.
Agenda 2030. The dumbing down of entertainment.
Very cool
Listen to Jay
Disney... The drug equivalency of Heroin.
I've watched this more than the actual movie
I've never seen it.
I watched it once on Netflix when I was sick and through the overwhelming desire to die, I thought "This is terrible"
I watched the movie 1.5 times. I watched this review at least 20 times.
The force awakens - my reaction was much as Rich's, my hope was for a better second film. The last jedi - my brother, a huge Star Wars fan, warned me not to bother going to the cinema so I watched it at his house... somehow. What an utter horror, I think I sat in open-mouthed astonishment from the "Your momma" joke right through to the end, with a loud exclamation of "Surely this is a joke?" when Leia did her 'Mary Poppins'. Had I seen it at the Cinema I think for the first time in my life I would have demanded my money back.
I've not watched it again, nor have I watched any subsequent Disney Star Wars nonsense, or even had the heart to rewatch any of the real Star Wars films since. Well done Ryan!
...I have watched this episode of HITB several times.
As you should
"It's like someone shot John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison all in one night." Fuck I'm dying.
exurb1a love your videos man
exurb1a is love. exurb1a is life.
I was watching this and got to that line and thought, I must scroll to see how far down a comment on this is-
~bam~
time stamp please. on behalf of my friend ringo.
@@JonVoid37 11:13
"No story lines were planned" (paraphrased).
THIS is the entire problem.
Gut Furnace couldnt agree more. i was thinking after watching the movie, where are we, whats happened? the answer, not much, other than rey is now powerful for whatever reason and so is kylo....the next thing is that jedi and sith are now no more?.....so actually the thing that these 2 movies have done, is destroy the foundation that its based on. so now what, its a new story? its taken 2 movies to break the link to the original trilogy? whats the point? seriously, why didnt they just make another star wars trilogy? episode 1, leave the originals and build around another time frame or the same time but different characters. im done with these films, however i totally fell for rogue one so i will watch the spinoffs, which is what i think they should have concentrated on from the start (but its disney, and like luke, they are milking us fat titty walrus freaks who lap it all up)
I really don't see the point of "let the past die" when both movies relies heavily on nostalgia and its a copy of the plots of ANH, ESB and RotJ. Actually, this trilogy wouldn't even exist without the OT. The past DOES matter and that's why you should treat it with respect, not just do whatever the fuck you want and making like the old movies never existed.
Watch Empire of Dreams or read The Secret History of Star Wars. It's clear that George had the concept of the whole story before 77. The completed script was too long, so he took 1/3 to make the original Star Wars. The destruction of the Death Star was supposed to be the ultimate climax, but he had to put that in ANH as well because he didn't know if he would be able to make the other movies. Of course, there's some plot points wich weren't established until later (like Vader's twist), but surely he had a idea of where to go, wich is more than the sequels now.
I don't think he planned it out but he was a consistent factor in it all. It sounds to me like Kathleen Kennedy doesn't care where the story goes as long as it has things for Disney to profit from.
I already sold my soul to Rich Evans.
My favorite part was the foxes made of crystal meth.
99.1% pure!
DankWarMouse fucking junkies
Reactions BIZNATCH!
Heisenberg would be proud
@@redruml5872 First there was Pepsi Crystal...now there's Pepsi Crystal Meth!
“gaint super weapon that’s shaped like a sphere with a big laser on it. that’s where we’re heading”
jokes on you. it was 10,000 smaller lazers
Beat me to it
Would you rather fight 1 planet sized laser or 1000 star destroyer sized lazers
A.L. otter wait a moon sized spaced station COMPLETELY covered in smaller turrets sounds way better than a planet destroyer
rechnically it was a planet of siths... so.. it was shaped like a sphere
My sphere-based expectations were totally subverted.
My favorite line from the video is when Mike yells out to Rian Johnson, "Have you seen Star Wars?"
You're going to make this argument? Yoda never acted like a fool in the prequels, even in the private presence of other jedi masters. He didn't crack any jokes or act like a madman or do the little Cosby shimmy Rian had him do, even in times of relative calm (i.e. when the shit wasn't hitting the fan). It was only after he put himself in exile after taking the Jedi Order's failure with Anakin Skywalker personally that he took on that mask.
"generally someone who is a teacher will put on an overly serious persona at first, but when his student is 65 and he's a force ghost, yoda dont have to keep up that image any more."
Greaet, good job trying to justify Rian Johnson's murder of a beloved character by pulling things out of nowhere.
Nice resorting to personal attacks instantly, shill. He pretty much started laughing about destroying the last remaining legacy of the jedi and leading Luke on to think that they were destroyed, not to mention doing that little shuffle. Then cackling and hitting Luke on the head with his stick. Yes, I watched the movie, and just like Mike, Yoda's depiction in TLJ - among many other moments in the film - made me think it was one big joke. Even when you point out Yoda's joking around in the Return of the Jedi as his 'true personality' and thus excuses him acting like a fool in TLJ, watch that scene again to understand - he made a joke because he knew he was about to die, and trying to make Luke a bit more comfortable in the awkwardness of the moment.
If I came off as harsh in my first reply to you, that's on me, but if you can't argue worth a shit without resorting to insults look at yourself, you disney shill.
Cool, you never addressed any of my rebuttals. Have fun with your disney dollars. And no, I edited my comment so it was directly applied to you. If you're asking about my first reply to you, I didn't edit it - I stand by what I said that he didn't joke around like a goddamn madman like Rian had him doing in TLJ.
Also yes, it was the first Jedi temples, and containing the LAST JEDI TEXTS. Which of course Rian had Rey steal, but whatever. It's easy to comprehend when you're not trying to scramble for a playground insult to insult me with rather than actually addressing my comments.
Also look who's editing his replies now. Hahaha.
LOL. That De Culture guy completely missed the point of that scene. Yes, Yoda burned the last jedi texts in front of Luke. And that was the fucking point of that scene!!!! The ways of a Jedi is beyond some "page turners". Luke never realized that. Yoda reminded him. Sure, they could've have some exposition scene, but that's not visual, or interesting.
Could have done The Lighthouse with Yoda and Luke stuck on that island.
"how long have we been on this rock? Two weeks? Ten years?"
Waiting for Yoda - where Luke just talks to various force ghosts waiting for Yoda to arrive
"Bad luck to kill a porg, it is."
Yoda would be the one to fart a lot, right?
"You're fond of me lightsaber, ain't yer?"
Episode 9: Luke wakes up from a bad dream and says to himself: "I really shouldn´t have tried that alien tit-milk"...
Ha!
Stop giving them ideas!
Nah he died from sweating.
Yoda: "Yoda want milk."
Honestly I see them doing this.
My favorite part is how Poe Dameron, one of the leaders of the rebellion needs to follow orders blindly and not question authority
@@rawrdino7046 Yet they're still called rebels.. Even though they should be the major power in the galaxy.
Yeah, just because they’re rebels doesn’t mean they can disobey orders Willy nilly. It’s a military organization, they tend to be pretty strict on following orders.
@@latro7752 You do realize he's been successfully leading the rebellion until that movie, right?
Myriad Works For example, at the beginning of TFA he would totally have escaped the planet if not for Kylo showing up with his OP sith sorcery literally pinning him in place.
@@RabbiHerschel You just described Western progressive ideology (because God & Christianity are dead in the West and have been usurped & supplanted by progressivism due to Man's inability to live without being bound to a higher sense of morality that instills the guilt & shame on them they fail to enact themselves)
Best thing about a new Star Wars film is knowing there's an impending Mr. Plinkett review to follow.
Considering how bad this film was at least there's something to look forward to:)
gotta wait for home release, it'll be awhile
I guess some time in the summer, maybe not as late as TFA.
Yeah. I can't wait to see Mr. Plinkett's review of The Last Jedi.
Sir they've gone up the ventilation shaft.... WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAAACE?!
My favourite part of the film was when Yoda was dancing in front of the fire.
Young, he was. Needed the money for college, he did.
End credits were my favorite part
@@viscountrainbows6452 Same.
In a G-string
@@viscountrainbows6452 haha same
Rose: Yes let’s free all the wild animals and leave the child slaves to rot, NOW OUR TRIP HERE HAS MEANING
lmao
And now the kids will probably have to work overtime with no pay because the main work force was freed...But not the kids..
Playoba D- more like, “now the kids will have to race in lieu of missing space horses!”
I hope rose gets blown up in episode 9
I mean, that's fair, but Star Wars is in a universe where slavery exists. Neither Qui-Gon nor the Jedi did anything about slavery.
Mike yelling "have you seen star wars?" sounds like he started it as a joke and midway turned into the honest cry of an anguished fan
It does, but oh my god, I burst out laughing so hard at that, it was fucking perfect!
The sad look in his eyes seemed pretty genuine.
Mike is Star Trek fan
@@stellviahohenheim can you prove it?🤨
@@stellviahohenheimhighly doubtful. I've watched all their episodes. Never heard him mention star trek before.
Best part was having my Mum go "Aren't you glad we didn't pay to see it in 3D?" half way through the film. Ouch.
ScreamingTc lmao
Savage
ScreamingTc savage
LOL
Its a TRAP !!!
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a fan cheering at a new Star Wars trailer - forever."
-George Orwell, 1984
Bravo, A+ comment!
"Rian Johnson's middle chapter in the current Star Wars trilogy is the epic you've been looking for."
- Peter Travers, Rolling Stone
"The Last Jedi probably does the best job of any Star Wars film of capturing the allure of the Dark Side and the spiritual turmoil that would lead to - and also result from - its embrace."
- Christopher Orr, The Atlantic
"It's sporadically interesting."
- Rich Evans, Red Letter Media
Or Rogue One : "It's not boring all the time"
Wonder who got paid to say what comment?
@@viracocha smart people don't. For that matter, they don't care about what some fucktard soyboi has to say about movies or tv shows. We watch what we want to and make up our own minds. No job is as inconsequential or meaningless as a film critic
@@BrandonGavin_EDC the answer is all of them, even the Luke warm reviews are too good to be true!
Yes Disney is a very powerful organization and like ALL powerful organizations you cross it at the peril of your career. I just think ANY film critic that could not see the giant plot holes and silly ideas, or not even mention the 'Your Mamma' jokes and the ruination of the biggest character in sci fi history is not someone who's opinion I will ever read again. They obviously dont know what they are talking about If they gave it anything different than all the comments here
Turns out Yoda wasn't testing Luke in Empire; he was just having a bout of dementia.
To be fair, I thought Yoda's had his speech pattern, because he has no talked to anyone in two decades. But the prequels said it was because Yoda could not be bothered to learn proper grammar.
I personally didn't take it like Yoda acting crazy was a complete act. He was very old, and had been isolated for a long time. He obviously got more serious when that was required of him to train Luke, but nonetheless.
@@schwarzerritter5724 meanwhile Yaddle, the female Yoda species jedi, talks like a totally normal person back then lmao, so yeah you're definitely right
Maybe Yoda was always a crazy moron just crazy powerful enough and spoke so weirdly that no one noticed.
apparently yoda chooses to speak like that because that’s how his master talked, and so he learned that speech pattern from his master, yodas species doesn’t talk like that.
In Mike, the anguished and brutalized cry of Star Wars fans...who have been betrayed and forgotten.
In Rich, the mildly interested “huh.” Of the common man...who is just here to be out for a few hours.
In Jay, the world weary sigh of intellectual movie snobs...who stopped caring a very long time ago.
Damn, you should be a therapist, spot on
a very long time ago.
Maybe in a galaxy?
Far Far away
We are all Mike Stoklasa
I love this comment so much.
AT ST AT ST AT ST AT ST
“There’s a Star Trek: Voyager episode about this”...
Take a shot.
GGcomment pretty much every Half episode you'll hear this
(Looks into the camera)
One hundo agree. DS9 is a nice mix and Next Gen is the inverse.
"It's time for Star Wars to end"-Luke Skywalker
Balin40k i'd imagine mark hamil saying that instead of luke.
If only
Why are these videos of 3 men rambling about starwars infinitly rewatchable
people love watching bitter middle-age men throwing shade at space cartoons
As opposed to the actual movies, which I haven't even seen
I've watched the movie once, and this review at least 10 times
I've watched this video 4 times in the past 24 hours
It's therapy for the trauma of disney star wars
The 12 surviving “resistance” dudes story must continue... so they can kill off Lando, Chewie,C3PO,& R2D2 in the next film.
They're heroes, so killing them isn't enough. They must be horribly tortured and brainwashed until they repudiate the Republic and embrace the First Order. Like Winston Smith in 1984. I mean, there's the plot of The Rise of Skywalker right there.
I bet the falcon with lando, chewie c3po and r2 dies..
If they kill R2D2 they'll lose billions in marketing revenue and lose out on a solo R2D2 movie where he blows up the burning legion or whatever.
12 people isn't a resistance, they are just space terrorists now.
*"I'm Rose. I was a technician at the start of the movie, but now on Crait I'm an ace-pilot. Also Finn I love you... Even though we've only know each other for 12 hours."*
Hmm would people have so much problems with her if she was white male I wonder. Also her sister was a pilot or something, they probably practiced together when they were young
How is she an ace pilot? She just knows how to handle mining equipment - because she grew up in mines.
Mayo Blaze I like her as a person, I just can't stand that cheesy line she says at the end. But that just makes me hate her character in the movie, not the movie as a whole
SAMCRO JT Fan Also this is basically the same issue with Luke in a new hope. "Hi I'm Luke, I'm a random farm boy but don't worry I can fly this rebel xwing." I know he like flew some other thing in deleted scenes but that doesn't count. My point is people just seem to be nitpicking this movie on an unbelievable level
paperbackwriter1111 She goes into battle and takes out multiple people before perfectly hitting Finn with her ship.
“I’m excited to see these characters on screen again” - Rich Evans, pre-TLJ
“I wasn’t interested in what happens to any of these characters after this” - Rich Evans, after TLJ
Pretty much the whole problem with the sequels. I'm waiting to see RoS and I expect about the same from it.
Shhhh shhhhh - after rise of Skywalker
@@totallynotalpharius2283 Look its Maz Kanata!
It was interesting to hear the guys say that because it's exactly how I felt after I got dragged to see the first new Star Wars movie.
It was okay enough, a decent kids' movie with talented actors taking the piss like the original three, but it ended by saying, "Come back to see what happens next!"
I came in not caring about that, and left not caring about that, and when your movie that ends on a cliffhanger can't do that for non-fans, it's a big, fat failure.
@G Ren return is a much better film, far and away a better film. And I didnt see rise because of this film. Stop necroing this videos comments with your shitty takes bro.
I love how the movie was such a fever dream that it destroyed Mike's brain into thinking Yoda was dancing in a g-string
Benicio Del Toro looked like he was sleepwalking through his abysmal character. I believe the scene where he says to Finn that he won´t do shit without money or some sort of deposit wasn´t in the script. That was what he said to Rian Johnson between takes and they kept it in.
HrTjernobyl so... he looks like Benicio Del Toro?
I think his stuttering was his brain having aneurysms after reading the script too... also left in the movie
HrTjernobyl a great actor given a terrible character. Everything with canto bite was shit.
Mike’s dementia outburst was funnier than any joke in the movie
Pause Future oh gosh now I wanna have Yoda electrocute a tree, and then start booty dancing around the campfire in a thong lol.
I would have laughed so hard.
"Get 30 X-Wings that are fast and put 5 bombs on them each"
That's what Y-Wing bombers do, but Ryan Johnson didn't know that apparently
He kinda forgot about the Y-Wings.
@@Alknix Forgot implies he knows anything about star wars in the first place.
@@Nathreim1 Shush, don't ruin my memes.
@@Alknix do you even know what a meme is
Technically all the X-wings could have had enough proton warheads to actually screw over that dreadnought.
The problem is, the Y-wings were all from the clone wars era. They are super old, and while they were absolutely amazing fighter-bombers, there were literally none left in flying condition.
After all this, those slave children are still slaves.
They saved that one alien cow that the casino employees will easily round up again, though, and in the end, that's what really matters.
@You tube idk man...the entire subplot was irrelevant to the narrative.
But they did get to clean up the casino and be punished for letting the animals escape
@You tube what are you talking about? They literally only showed them the resistance symbol so they wouldn’t sound the alarm and then immediately left them. When they escaped, they only ever commented about the animals, not the slaves. This is one of the reasons why people think the script is dumb
Swissyland had child slaves until 1989
At the part where Luke threw the lightsaber some 14 year old girl said aloud, "What the fuck?!" It was hilarious, she got reprimanded for cursing.
I was 13 when this movie came out and didn't even like it as a baby boy. I remember my mom asked my what I thought and my first words after seeing it were "I have some problems with that"
@@alpharoo2581 cut your hair and get a job
@unnhkp8mza522that person is now 19 years old. Maybe 18. Not really a child lol.
@@jeltje50 ohh, you dear sweet summer child. Even 20 is still very much a child. Legally an adult, sure; mentally still a loooonnnnng way off.
@@noone3216 if you are mentally a kid at age 20 that just sounds like you grew up in an overly sheltered environment, aka a manchild
Child murder runs strong in the Skywalker bloodline.
Crossbone Vanguard like father, like son.
To be fair, the Younglings deserved it.
I'm two years too late but watching this my same sentiment was echoed. From the opening scene of this movie I literally thought I was being trolled by Disney. I thought it was a grand joke they were playing on everyone. I thought "Surely this will get better", but it didn't.
Exactly. If a person wanted to tell the entire fanbase to piss off AND tear the franchise down to the ground in one giant eff you, then I doubt anyone could any better than tlj.
@@jackasschicken5922 exactly, literally stuck my middle finger up at the screen when the credits rolled, I felt like someone had been taking the piss out of me the whole film.
It’s why it’s my least favorite movie of all time. The prettiest, best-sounding train wreck of ALL TIME.
It didn't because Disney CAN'T make good movies anymore.
We WERE being Trolled but by Johnson and Kennedy, just wait and see what happens to their movie careers and I for one cant wait
Over three years later Mike confusing the Gnome movie with the Star Wars movie is legitimately the funniest thing in any of the Half in the Bags
Almost 4 years later and it's still the most hysterical thing given Mike's weird but understandable fetish for the elderly.
@@denver7324 almost 6 years later and it's still the funniest thing mike has ever dementia'd into existence
I nearly commented "this isn't half in the bag. This is botw" because of the last jedi
@@denver7324 000
I think Rey's parents are Princess Vespa and Lone Star from Spaceballs! 😉
EvanSol919 she doesn’t look Druish
+EvanSol919-I appreciate the joke but I am legimately shocked that given the real estate in the story Rey's parents have taken up that this (not) answer was ever passed as perfectly acceptable-it is easily what is at best a dropped storyline (unless Abrams picks it back again for the sequel). Because the answer in the movie is simply not an answer, damn it. Even if Rey's parents are simply Mary and Joe Average who sold her into slavery for the money as Kylo claims (and assuming he wasn't lying to fuck with her and try to break her by saying she is an unimportant nobody whose parents didn't even want her and never loved her), common courtesy would dictate that since it has been brought up several times, their names should at least be known and Rey deserves to know just who her parents are, even if they are irredeemable deadbeat assholes.
And even if they do go with this later on and it turns out Rey isn't a Skywalker of any kind (although given JJ Abrams' fan fiction tendencies, it's hard to believe he doesn't want to keep that in), it turns her from a complete Mary Sue to a textbook spitting image of a Mary Sue: a complete nobody brought up from nothing that is inexplicably awesome and perfect in everything she sets out to achieve without ever trying.
I'd argue even the only thing "interesting" about her was the identity of her parents and that may be gone now, answered without ever bothering to provide an answer. It's common for JJ Abrams' associated series to pull this (again and again and again and again and no one ever learns) but this is truly outrageous. It's rancid. This is simply inexcusable and unacceptable, piss poor storytelling at its finest and it's not too much to expect better.
Fera Flauna Kylo didn't say that Rey's parents were nobody. She did... he just repeated it and expanded on it. I don't get why this is a problem for so many people. Anakin came from nothing... I think it's intetesting.
Well, the fathers brothers roommate bit from space balls is exactly what we got in this movie.
I think she has no parents because she is a God. Its the only way I can legitimately believe in her natural abilities.
I'm waiting for the big reveal in Episode IX when Snoke returns and we discover he was actually three Porgs in a robe!
lol
Dew it
Snoke turns to smoke, and begins to raise his cape, flashbacks begin, we are brought to a familiar scene, jar jar Binks, dodging laser fire and beating up Stormtroopers unarmed.
He's a sith Lord, and it's time for the star wars final showdown. Jar jar reforms where snope was once torn in two, he has his red lightsaber, it's time, kylo and Rey, the fight lasts 2 hours.
Doesn't matter who wins who dies or what the overall message is, tell me your idea
Saved your trilogy, gg, you're welcome
The only thing missing now is Adam Sandler directing episode IX, and himself starring in it.
oh is-a da kylo ren with-a da force, shabba doo
I'd watch a Jar Jar Binks prequel if Adam Sandler played Jar Jar's father.
Adam Sandler as Darth Plagus
Starring: Adam Sandler as main badguy and . . . Adam Sandler as main badguy's sister!
Sounds legit.
Adam Sandler playing Jacen and Jaina Solo would be fantastic.
"Excessive mis-firings of comedy"
Mike summed it all up so perfectly.
Just like Thor: Dumb and Dumber
What amazes me is how so much happens and yet nothing happened either. It was one long slow improbable chase in space from start to finish with a number of side stories happening with Rey's lackluster training, a casino-planet heist that fails, a mutiny that communication would have avoided. They're running from the Nu-Empire at the beginning and they are running from the Nu-Empire at the end despite the Nu-Empire having lost a starkiller planet base last movie, two huge ships, and their supreme leader.
They kill off Snokes without explaining how he revitalized the Empire or how he came in contact with Ren and corrupted him. They built up Rey's parentage then just dropped it. If they wanted to say anyone can use the Force I'm on board with that but don't tease a plot point over 2 years then reveal it to be nothing the same with Snoke.
Then there's Luke. Why did he leave a map if he had no intention of returning? This is the guy who risked his life to save his friends in ESB and to bring his father back to the Light Side in ROTJ but here he fled while his friends were in danger and didn't do anything during his self-imposed exile. And why have him be a Force hologram seemingly killed by Ren then have him actually die moments later? Why not just have him go there and use some Force power to knock over the Walkers to show his power? They ruined and wasted his character.
Ronin Dave long
"They kill off Snokes without explaining how he revitalized the Empire or how he came in contact with Ren and corrupted him. They built up Rey's parentage then just dropped it. If they wanted to say anyone can use the Force I'm on board with that but don't tease a plot point over 2 years then reveal it to be nothing the same with Snoke. "
No one built up Rey's parentage except the fucking fans.
Did people really want a 15 minute exposition on how Snoke rebuilt the Empire? We didn't need one to explain how the Empire in the original series came to be.
+Mr.Science Comparing apples to oranges.
+Mr.Science Let me elaborate. Comparing the Empire it the OT to the First Order in Nu-Wars shows an acute lack of critical thinking on your part.
Mr. Science no they were teasing her parentage since the first movie. And no we didn't need a 15 minute exposition on Snokes so burn your strawman. What we needed were just a few lines of dialogue from different characters to build his character for the audience.
Snokes is not the Emperor which is a self-explanatory title not too mention he was an archetypal character. Snokes is a character in a continuation story picked up 30 years later. I'm sorry but we need some kind of explanation how we got from the end of Jedi with the end of the Empire to this massive First Order which can build planet-size star killers, lose them then still take over the galaxy.
Rian Johnson might have gone too far in a few places
Umm... yeah?
Un-broken and victorious man I'm scared to see what happens when goku directs star wars and takes it even further beyond
10/10 Would turn a blind eye to my apprentice walking the dark path again to reread this comment
I wouldn't say that. No Jar Jar and it's not a CGI-crap fest.
Darth Mawrak Lol "No Jar Jar".... should we tell him? 😂
Irked me when Yoda said we learn from our failures to Luke. He already learned how to learn from his failures. In ep5 he couldn’t pull the X-Wing out of the water, failed the “test” in the cave, and lost to Vader in a duel. In one movie he learned the lesson and adapted and we see peak Luke in 6. Now it’s as if those events never transpired.
Aldrich Leblanc you thought Luke would learn BUT HE DIDN'T! It's a CLEVER SUBVERSION!
What a twist!
You don't stop failing when you're young and mastered one challenge bruh.
still coming back to this video 4 years later , deapite not watching TLJ again since
There isn't much substance in TLJ to digest.
I’ve seen it a couple times since, and while it is the best of the trilogy (imo of course), I would only consider rewatching it with the ability to fast forward through everything but the Luke, Rey, Kylo, and Snoke scenes and the Laura Dern kamikaze, which is quite beautiful. I’ve seen this review probably 10x more than TLJ though.
I can't wait for the obligatory time skip in Ep IX that fills in no information and puts the "Rebellion" back into some semblance of strength, to be able to counterattack against a small splinter faction of the Empire that should never have been allowed to exist, after 30 years of supposed peace.
In the Episode 9 trailer, it looked to me like Rey was still wearing the same clothes and hairstyle. I'm going to bet that NO time has elapsed since "The Last Jedi" but they'll probably open the movie on an entire Rebel fleet anyway, even if it makes no sense.
@@KneelB4Bacon but it will make more "sense" that 30 years pass and rey wears the same clothes.
@@joebobhenrybob2000 My point was that the writers will make a whole new Rebel fleet magically appear, even though the Rebellion was reduced to about 20 guys and the Millennium Falcon at the end of the last movie. Rian Johnson went out of his way to f*ck up the trilogy.
@@KneelB4Bacon perhaps a rebel fleet of dothraki
@@KneelB4Bacon There will be a time skip of a year, it has been confirmed. So, if they end the FO vs. Resistance story in the last movie, that means that the entire war between the two will last a yearish…. yeah totally plausible.
Luke is a funnier character than we’ve ever had before, if we can just get him
working.
"It's gonna be great."
When Leia flew out the window in the blast and floated lifeless in space, I was like wow, that was unexpected. It got to me and even made me teary eyed that she died. Then she immediately flew back in
that was the perfect time to kill her off, one because it was a huge moment and it was unexpected, and two because of the passing of the actress (the name escapes me at this point) , and then she mary poppins back into the franchise 🤦🏻♂️
@@waywardmind that would be pretty funny ngl
"The cinematic equivalent of Homer Simpson's makeup shotgun"
"Homer, I don't think women would like to get shot in the face."
"Women will like what I tell them to like."
@@novatlas1945 oddly true
But it will subvert thier expectations.
Nobody expects to get shot in the face with makeup.
Rian Johnson is in the firing line for the movie but let's make no mistake, Kathleen kennedy is behind the curtain pulling a lot of the strings. She is the phantom menace.
Sabre Flurry Its clear she's doesn't have the magic she used to in her heyday.
Least we know TFA isn't quite all JJ's doing since the film and this points to her and Rouge One was a fluke
Sabre Flurry exactly people shit on the directors but Kathleen Kennedy is making a lot of the shitty decisions. Especially with the feminist agenda push. Idc if a character is any race or gender just give us great characters with a coherent story journey throughout the trilogy.
+OptimisticMan Right. Its easy to pick on Abrams, Gilroy, and Johnson but they don't run LucasFilm nor threw the old EU away entirely when they could've preserved the best of it instead.
Between the in fighting that's grown rapid with fandom across the board since 2012, the dicourse lies at her doorstep and must be held accountable
What magic? From what I understand, she started her career as Speilberg's coffee lady and only got promoted repeatedly to fulfill a lady quota.
100% Agree. We are seeing Kathleen's personal version of Star Wars.
These “new” movies made the original trilogies basically pointless. Because what the characters achieved there has amounted to nothing and changed nothing.
In these new movies the original characters essentially regressed. They are old, bitter and miserable and Disney is killing them off movie by movie. Great fun.
Now I know why George looked the way he did on the photos when he sold Star Wars. I have pretty much the same expression now.
Utter nonsense.
Either way I'm glad Star Wars is out of George's hands. He's a total hack
You're placing too much value on the happy ending of a typical hero story structure. This isn't a kids cartoon. And it's metaphysical philosophy on Star Wars fan inclusiveness through character dialogue proves it. Everyone is romanticizing the lore of jedi and sith, good and evil when really it's all up to the world view of the characters. It's hypocrisy. "They blow you up today, you blow them up tomorrow." The bad people on the deathstar may have been like Finn. Is he still bad? Or is he good? It's all in his hands and what path he chooses. There was even good in Darth Vader and he was second to the emporer. What makes you think the storm troopers deserve death and the rebels dont? They both kill and are killed. Perspective matters.
@@RhoadsLocke woah man DEEEP
I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt the characters didn’t accomplish anything
Everyone, especially the villains, looked like chumps. Snoke? Easily tricked and defeated. Kylo Ren? Repeatedly and ultimately made to look like a fool. Huck? Vader would have smoked that guy in every scene which he appeared. Phasma? Still unimpressive. The good guys weren't much better. Weak plans, poor execution, and the only escaped because a secret back door was literally written into the script allowing them to escape. And Luke? Why again did he die? His death was so unimpressive that they might as well have done it off screen.
THATS WHAT'S GOOD AND INTERESTING ABOUT THIS MOVIE! AND WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY ACCOMPLISH ION EMPIRE?
They don't even have to accomplish anything- in Empire, they were just surviving on the run. There just had to be some form of character development that's focused and impactful. Rey knows her parents are nobodies and has no greater understanding of the force. Kylo is still evil. Finn is the same. Poe is slightly less rash. Leia is the same. Luke is the same at the end as at the beginning. Rose is terrible. Nothing happened in the entire movie.
This movie wasn't about massive failure, it WAS a massive failure.
Here are the character arks that for some reason you can't see..... (SPOILERS)
Rey - Starts the movie questioning Luke actions and why he wants the Jedi to end. Also at the same time questioning herself on why is SHE with Luke and what her place is in all of this is. She therefore decides that she wants to know the ways of the force so she can use them for the good. Through Rey’s training she starts leaning more about the force trully means and what can be done with it. Also her connection with Kylo grows when they can both can sense each other with the force. They both start understanding each other much more on who they are as people which allow Rey to really get in his shoes and at the same time feel accompined by someone. Rey also discovers who her parents and realizes that they didn’t care about her and were nobodies. This allows Rey to learn not only to let the past die and not be affected by that, but also to understand that she can be her own person, stay that way and her realizing what her past actually is allows her to learn to move on, develop and focus on her actions in the future because everything that she did in the past doesn’t matter anymore. She learns to become a more skilled Jedi, learns more of what the force means, learns what’s realy going on in Kylo Ren’s mind and learns to forget about the bad in her past and move on in order to become a better person since throughout the films, she constantly couldn’t stop questioning on who her parents. When she learns the truth, she won’t let that influence her and that turns her into a stronger character.
Luke Skywalker - Stars the movie not wanting to be involved with the war between the First Order and the Ressistance since he came to island just to die and be away from the war as far as he can. But when Rey arrives and starts interacting with him, he starts discovering more of a soul within himself since he hasn’t interacted with a human in a while. Also when Luke tells the truth to Rey how he sensed darkness unlike any other in Kylo Ren which is why he tried to murder him during his training, it’s followed by Rey responding to him that maybe his actions are what caused Kylo to be the way he is now. This makes Luke question his actions during his conversation with Yoda and realizes how he just might be responsible for all those young Jedi’s that died in the burning temple. Later at the end he decides to use the force and project and image of himself to not only change and decide to distarct Kylo in order for the rebels to flee and get out since that’s technically helping them. But it’s also to test Kylo Ren on how he would respond to him showing up. Once he realizes that Kylo still wants to murder him, he taunts and fools Kylo until he senses that the rebels are safe and away. At the end he realizes he has done enough to save the rebels and dies realizing what he has done and therefore his death his peaceful and he has done enough to influence Rey and the first order including Kylo. He turns from a moody old man to a hero.
Poe Dameron - Starts the movie ignoring Leia’s orders and decides to call in the bombers so they can blow up a giant sith ship. Even though he accomplishes that, all the bombers died during the process and during the film, he learns to take responsibility and act when necessary to prevent more people from dying.
Kylo Ren - Starts the movie feeling humiliated since Rey beat him up with the lightsaber in TFA and Snoke taunts him with that. He also starts the movie feeling weak since Snoke is still the #1 Sith, Snoke outranks him and he still takes orders from him. During the film, we start to see that Kylo is done with being controlled by another person and he starts to make decisions that Snoke would not like such as him not shooting Leia’s room while fighting in his ship. All of this leads to the moment of him killing Snoke where he now has turned into the #1 ruler of the first order. Now that he is that, he has full control of it which is why later he stops attacking rebels and faces Luke Skywalker. Later when Kylo Ren realizes that Luke was projecting his image, he realizes that he has to start making smarter decisions and not being fooled if he is the #1 ruler of the first order. This for sure will lead into Episode IX.
Snoke - Starts the movie feeling he has full control over Kylo Ren, later when Kylo Ren turns on the lightsaber and it goes through Snoke, he looks at Kylo one last time realizing that Kylo has turned more powerful than him and that he now has turned into the ultimate Sith lord.
Holdo - Starts the movie wanting the rebels to like her and see her as a true ressistance leader while she had a different plan who she told no one about. Later Poe realizes what she was trying to do and the rest of the rebels start realizing that. Then when all the rebels are leaving to the new planet, she decides to stay in the ship alone which will make her feel like the rebels forgive her on her other plan since she’s staying alone in the ship in case of an emergency. Since the empire starts blasting their escape ships, with that knowledge she decides to sacrfice herself and crash into snoke ship with lightspeed so that the rest of the rebels can be safe and travel to the planet without more of them dying.
Honestly the only character who was close in having a perfect ark but was ruined was Finn.
It's because he starts the movie wanting to leave the rebels since he fears the first order, then later when he flying to the ship to the beam, he's sacrificing himself so others can live which is earned because in the beginning he was trying to ditch them. But later Rose saves him who is honestly the worst character in this entire movie and that ruins the ark.
But despite that, mostly all major characters have an ark and THEY ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH MAJOR THINGS.
I will say, rich looks quite handsome in his outfit of muted greens and even more muted greens.
I wish thete was even more muted greens
It's so dense.. every muted green has so much going on..
Earth tones, people. Everyone's wearing earth tones! Because he lives on a planet.
"A jedi master doesn't have to be a big, strong guy. He can be a little green midget."
This is subversion done well. Watch and learn Rian.
and a little round headed man does not have to understand the medium he is filming or have any actual 'talent' as a writer to take one of the biggest jobs in movie history get it. {he can also be an arrogant little tosser who believes his talent WAY more than it is}
Ron Wylie bro I beg you watch Brick and even knives out. Like this man ruined this pissbaby franchise turned around and made a hit in the next two years
@@ogfridgeman5546 RJ is definitely a good director. He just doesn't like Star Wars and botched it because he was listening to KatKen, who also doesn't like Star Wars. Every great has a dud or two in their history. It's just a shame Johnson had to bomb so hard with his. I mean, come on, bro. This movie will go down in history as a terrible mistake. Even if you like it, which is fine, you have to admit it killed the trilogy.
@@arandompasserby7940 you are my new hero.
@@daggettus the trilogy is a stillbirth, what really killed it is the lack of commitment and vision from daddy disney
I think the worst part about The Last Jedi was (what Rich said at the very end): I am not excited for the next main Star Wars movie. There were things I liked about The Last Jedi and things I didn't but the mere fact that it just didn't excite me for the next (not by a cheap cliffhanger but building a story where I want to see how it continues) is by far the worst thing for me.
Agreed
I'm confused about the lore, is this featureless black void in Plinkett's house, or the VCR repair shop?
Its the restaurant where they did the Spiderman review
+Bluehawk2008
Yes.
I think the backdrop was meant to externalize their inner feelings.
It’s all a figment of Mike’s dementia, and the black void is his own mind.
@@spooplegeist5260 RLM is just a postmodernist Plinketts The Cave.. it subverts your expectations
Mel Brooks was right !
"Spaceballs 2: The search for more money"
Thanks for cementing my cynicism Kathleen.
"I was thinking is this movie a joke, many many times"
Same here.
You
Nice picture. Fortress is the shit.
all this dicksney trilogy ... it's a really hugiest joke
"Do you guys remember when Yoda was dancing in front of the fire?"
"Yoda want Milk!"
Oh my god I can't breathe!! :'D
I remember the part where a pizza roll walked out from the cave and told me to to dance.
Stop dancing!
Ghost L yeah me too
Sounds more like Space Balls.
Ah we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're are no friends of mine
I say, we can go where we want to, a place where they will never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind,
And we can dance
I love watching these several years later and seeing how right they were about the course of Star Wars.
Too true!
Yeah.
Can somebody recut the “rise of skywalker” teaser with Rich Evans’ laugh instead of Palpatine?
But you can't watch it on your phone during a safari anymore, if they do that. It would attract droves of horny hyenas.
1:09
I'll do this when I get a new computer, send me a message & remind me because that's funny asf
@@SutekhChroma reminder
@@SutekhChroma reminder
They showed Luke's X-wing, suggesting he would leave, but he doesn't use it, Rey uses it, and Luke doesn't sacrifice himself, he force projects himself so he won't die, only to die.
WHAT
S U B V E R T I N G E X P E C T A T I O N S
That hand-wringing, twat probably jacked himself thinking about how that would piss us off.
I don't think I've hated a movie more than TLJ.
@@cake6476 Making 'erratic and unpredictable' into virtues.
Sikka Bleeat syuksh
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This is the only video I've seen from you guys where the comment section isn't filled with memes, I guess this film really does need discussing
yeah but what's wrong with your face? ha!ha!ha!ha! kill me...
Is actual discussion of the film replacing memes?
Brinsley Look what you’ve done.
Is serious discussion replacing memes?
There's a lot to discuss, it took 12 years to make
I think Mike was actually having a manic episode in this video
gnomeo and juliet is a masterpiece lol
He was
It's sad that many of the Star Wars comics released in the 80s and 90s would make better movies than this current corporate trilogy.
Yes and books
The Star Wars daydream-games I played out as a _toddler_ with my _mom_ would have made better stories than this leavings of a messy abortion.
The Thrawn Trilogy would have been awesome. A total relic of the weird time between when Lucas allowed SW EU stuff but before the prequel films happened. It even had a throwaway line that nearly perfectly described what Plinkett said the clone wars should have been (insane clones vs. republic). Too bad alot of the SW EU was hit or ridiculously stupid.
@@trollofjom its so cool. Freaking Revan a jedi turning into a darklord and establishing an empire to prevent a greater evil from rising up. So much depth with the earlier stuff. Now its just all trash.
I have an update for you! Kathleen "The force is female" Kennedy doesn't think comic books and novels exist for Star Wars. She claims they had to write a new trilogy from scratch!
I liked the part where Mike developed dementia
We need to have "the talk" about putting Mike in a home.
+russer Mike's dementia: it took 12 years to make.
No this is definitely the Mandela effect in action, I too remember a naked yoda in a g-string dancing in front of a fire.
He's starting to become Plinkett, an old demanted alcoolic bitching about Star Wars and Star Trek
They broke new ground!!!!
((SPOILER ALERT)))
I had a strange feeling as well when Leia woke up and floated back to her ship. But this guy next to me could not stop laughing hysterically. The theater was fucking packed and everybody was dead silent during the scene except for this one guy that was dying of laughter. I couldn't help but chuckle as well. The scene was fucking ridiculous.
I had Rich's laughter in my mind when I saw this scene.
I lost it man, I couldn't take it. I thought that was the goofiest shit in the world (among other things in this movie, there were definitely a few other weird things that made me laugh, like Kylo Ren's shirtless scene ).
IKR? And remember in Empire when that little green puppet picked up a spaceship with his brain? I was laughing so hard at how ridiculous it all was, and the dumb movie was actually trying to be SERIOUS. Bad realistic space documentary, 0/10.
I was laughing so hard i sorta threw up, i was practically screaming into my jacket, i feel really bad but god damn this movie was amazing for all the wrong reasons
The difference being that little green puppet didn’t feel like a little green puppet he felt like a character and the scene felt meaningful and important. The part with Leia, while I didn’t have a problem with it really, came out of nowhere and didn’t accomplish much. It was just bizzarre.
These youtube algorithms suck balls. I've been watching movie reviews on here for like 7 years and this is the first time I'm finding you guys. Amazing content.
"What? Are you living under the rock?"
"Yes, Mr.Johnson lent me his basement."
They're legendary
41:32 "There was a period, a very brief period of time, when Star Wars was just a series of well-liked blockbusters. And now, it's not special anymore." That pretty much sums up the franchise and people's reaction to it. It used to be special. Now it's just another manufactured Hollywood product, devoid of any uniqueness. It's mass-produced fodder, rename it The Hunger Games or Twilight and no one will know the difference.
I dont think it was a brief period. The prequels, love them or hate them brought really cool stories with the clone wars and the jedi adventures, as well as the old republic. I think its just after all these movies and sub par shows like rebels and resistance and that princess like show is really bringing the series downhill
@Rob Melrose i grew up on the prequels, so I've always loved them. I also never mentioned the last jedi in my comment, I just said after all these movies every year, and these sub par shows, its over saturating the entire series, just like you said. Finally wants wrong with not liking the last jedi but still liking the prequels? Everyone has opinions.
I agree with you but the truth is the people that used to write, light and make amazing special effects are still there but they dont have the top jobs anymore
@Rob Melrose Episode 3 was decent...
@Rob Melrose. Hard to tell what point you're trying to make. It's easier to like things as children?
I thought I liked the phantom menace the first time I saw it, even though I knew I hated most of the movie. Didn't even bother seeing the next two in the theatre. Yet the prequel trilogy is at least failing to well execute an interesting story about how an absolute boss conquors the galaxy from the inside, and there is at least some cool shit. While TLJ isn't telling anything interesting at all, and the only neat looking stuff makes no sense.
The lightsaber dual at the end of phantom menace makes it better than the entirety of TLJ
There's a general sense of defeat in this review. Like, ok... whatever, SW is long gone, now we have to talk about this commercial piece of garbage. Stars Wars today is a joke, a bad one, and these three know that.
@Captain McDog Dude, where do I invest my Tumblr Coins?
It's been a joke for decades. Here's a sad reality check. The best shit to come out of this franchise has been all the content unrelated to the movies. It's basically the same as most franchises like Ghostbusters, Predator, Aliens and Terminator. The Prequel movies sucked. But almost all the material that sprung off from it proved to be superior. The Sequel Trilogy is nothing more but a lame watered down repeat of the OT but I won't be surpised in the least if in a decade or so fans start doing a complete 180 spin on it due to all the material outside of the films made them look better. If we're really gonna be honest there really hasn't been a great Star Wars movie of true excellence since the Empire Strikes Back. Everything afterwards has been one let down after another.
I think ever since 1997 that's been the case, the idea of SW being creatively bankrupt as Rich says is apparent now and that's why people are hating on it being unoriginal. The Prequels may have had original ideas in them, perhaps, but they're still terrible movies and always will be really. If Disney does less and less successful with Star Wars, them releasing the unaltered cuts of the OT will set them and the fans up for life, the mistakes of the past could be totally reversed.
Wish I had Borg in my name
So are they parodying Collider in Nerd Crew but straight up BEING Collider in Half in the Bag?
"Excessive mis-firings of comedy"....YES!
The Force Awakens: a house party that tried so hard to please everyone that it was dull.
The Last Jedi: a house party that decided to loosen up A LOT but ends up burning the house down.
The Rise of Skywalker: the same homeowners trying to lull you back to the next party.
Why did Luke leave a map to find him if he did not want to be found?
Jordan Green He didn't. He asked Rey 'how the hell did you find me' when she arrived
Jordan Green That's a question for J.J Abrams who made this mcgaffin just for characters to have some goal to achieve
He stated he wanted to die, so eventually they'd find him and give him a proper funeral.
DarthRevan260 you're flipping it around... JJ set stuff up and Rian raped the premise
The implication I got from The Force Awakens is that the map leads to the first Jedi temple, which is where Luke is rumored to have gone, as Han Solo says in the film. So it's not actually a map to where he for sure is, as far as the characters know, but to where he most likely is.
these films are a parody of a parody, spaceballs...but without the wit and subtext of mel brooks
Star War Episode IX: The Search For More Money
I actually thought I was watching Space Balls 2: the Search for More Money on more than occasion while watching this.
A Random Passerby Problem is it’s not actually supposed to be a parity it’s actually supposed to be a Star Wars movie
Mark Hamill’s face after watching the premiere of this movie says it all. He looks utterly baffled, confused, and frustrated. I felt the same way after watching it.
Is there a video/picture of this I can see?
Red just look up any of Hamill’s interviews recently. He genuinely despises what was done with his character and the new trilogy. He wears his heart on his sleeve and is probably one of the most interesting people in Hollywood to listen to speak about his experience in all of this.
lol, "mark hamill agrees with me because I say so!"
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He disagreed with the wampa scene. He thought Luke as a Jedi wouldn't seriously hurt the wampa because it was just searching for food in it's own natural order. It wasn't choosing to be bad or evil.
If anything that makes what happened in this abomination of movie all the worse. I mean, he only stood over his nephew menacingly while igniting his light-saber and keeping it lit while thinking about killing him "for the briefest of moments." (nothing brief about the series of actions that took place)
They’ve altered the mythology. Pray that Kathy doesn’t alter it further.
In the name of Star Wars, you are under arrest KK.
KK: I AM THE STAR WARS
@@abyssalwolfmore like KKK
Spaceballs with KK as the villain would be a better movie than the sequels.
The Last Jedi is coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere...
Actual LOL. You sir win this comment section
IT'S SALT
So love has blinded you, then?
Like sand people!
Awesome 😂
My theory is that Mike's slowly transforming into Mr. Plinkett. It starts with dementia then one day all the videos will stop and we'll see him on the news thirty years later "Police raid Mike Stoklasa's home. Dead prostitutes found." Oh, and this movie is unfocused.
1. Snoke: got killed like a punk, back story is now dead.
2. Kylo: can beat Snoke, yet gets bested by the cheap Chinatown knock off red guards.
3. Rey: sorry kid your parents are drunk nobodies that sold you for beer and that's about it. (Rian recently confirmed this)
4. Finn/rose: wasted in a canto bight scene that could have been left out of the film. Rose falls in love after a few hours.. Lol (Filler).
5. Phasma: why even have the actor if she never took off the helmet and died a weak death.
6. Code breaker CJ: waste of a character. 7. LUKE: you disgraced our hero! Making him like that. (Shame).
to state the dissatisfaction of this film is an understatement.
Sometimes I have a bad day and rewatch these videos and I laugh and laugh. Thank you guys!
...you guys didn't mention that Admiral Ackbar was killed without a line of dialogue, and then they introduce Admiral Holdo to replace him.
He said: „proximity alert“
I don't get ppl that complain about Admiral Ackbar. He was always a C-list side character. Ppl only get attached to him because of a fucking meme. I don't like this movie but i also get annoyed when i see this complaint.
@@akulahirpada1993 The problem with it is they could have made a C-list character more important, but instead they pointlessly replaced him with another C-list character.
@@tommcguire633 They could've made Holdo an important character actually. But instead she's shown as a terrible leader and the movie expects us to feel sad when she kamikazed herself.
akulahirpada1993 Your not wrong in that she is written terribly, but she’s also incredibly pointless, her role easily could have been replaced by ackbar, the only difference being that ackbar wouldn’t needlessly spark conflict among his ranks by keeping his plan a secret for unexplained reasons, i’m guessing thats why they introduced her in the first place.
The garden gnome revelation was beautiful.
"It's like someone shot John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison all in one night" xD I'm going to hell for laughing at that
No you’re not. It’s too good a joke to not laugh at. Plus they laughed at Leia surviving out of her, Han, and Luke, which is even more horrible
Man I like Ringo lol
All the jokes about pulling the x wing from the water which had been sitting there for 30 years and flying it off world are even more hilarious considering that is exactly what happens in the following movie.
In retrospect when Disney bought Lucasfilm they should have focused exclusively on spin-off Star Wars films and not continued with a sequel trilogy. So much more potential, all new characters, droids and creatures, and they would have had less of a chance of ruining the brand.
You perfectly summed it up at the end.
I have no desire to watch the next movie. There's no real conflict, no questions were asked, and the ones that DID exist were sloughed aside with nary a mention.
That is completely NOT what the 2nd part of a trilogy is supposed to do.
Jonathan Wotka well said. In my eyes this movie killed this trilogy.
Totally Agree, This movie totally killed my desire to watch the last one.
But Jonathan, don't you want to find out all the unanswered questions, like what that whole labour dispute was about?
TFA killed my desire to watch this one. So I didn't.
Yeah but you did didn't you?
The movie ends with Luke trying to start his X-wing, but it won't start, so he grins at Leia, as the credits roll over him continuing to try, because Rain Jonhson saw the Best Of The Worst episode of LoBlow
Episode 9 will be about Leia's journey Back to her home planet of Krypton.