Europe’s Fertility Crisis - What Happens when we run out of people?
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2024
- A look at what is happening to Europe's fertility rates - how that will affect the future European population and what will be the mpact on European economy and society.
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If our leaders wanted people to have more children they would ensure affordable housing and stable food, energy prices. They would also stop the 'forever wars' that they support and invest in something other than destruction.
They would also stop bringing in barbarians to use up housing and resources.
Stop thinking of them as leaders. They are not. They are public servants.
You don't understand the problem. it's a cultural change, not an economic one.
I'm living in Italy. Money/economics has nothing to do with low fertility rate. This problem started decades ago. Majority of people have money, they just don't want kids, maybe just 1 when they are older like at 40 years old.
They would also make certain that 1 parent working can support the family. 1 worker, 1 pay-check like it use to be before government wanted everyone working, everyone paying tax’s. Look around to see what happened.
Money is the one and only reason. After females went to work one MUST have 2 income households to survive. To have a kid means either one person stops working or one income goes to the daycare. Now instead of 2 surviving on 2 incomes, family of 3+ must survive on 1 income. Not mentioning that pregnancies can be physically debilitating, kids don't sleep, get sick and in general massively reduce your productivity and flexibility at workplace. And even if you're lucky on all fronts, you're still having your kid raised by the daycare, while you work your ass off just to survive. Why would you? It's no brainer that people just ditch the idea all together.
Kid was a essential investment in a farm. Now it is an expensive hobby in a city
The only real way to increase population is significantly lower living standards. Not just the condition but the expectations.
That's why it is the duty of governments to solve this situation, thru measures that increase fertility of couples. There is no future, in fact, there is no sense in a Nation that punishes the people that want to have children, and "rewards" those who don't. But in fact western nations are just reaping what they saw in the last 5 decades. I remember a few years ago it was common for families to have 3 or more children, now a family of 3 kids is considered a large family. Meanwhile, in the rest of the World....
It is that because since women now work the value of a worker has dropped by half and that is why they need both of them to work
@@zayedbinimran957 the classic blame the workers, not the capitalists extracting the most out of people while not paying fair wages.
@@Vhlathanoshever heard of minimun wage? i agree capitalism is bad but we cant ignore that some problems are purely created by others. I.E Feminists
The US is also facing a population decline. More and more young people are not having kids. They are getting married yes but growing a family is not happening right away. Most of it is due to cost of living. Young people who are just getting their lives together is becoming more and more harder. Their overwhelming college debts, lack of affordable homes along with not being able to afford a single family home, the general cost of living. It's too expensive to have a kid anymore.
Same in Australia bro. Having babies is too expensive plus modern women don’t want kids, they have one and say they’ve done their part, but they need to have two, maybe three, just to replace themselves and partner.
Profit baby profit. Squeeze the people so they not want to live. Give tax breaks to the rich and dribble (pee) down your economics to the rest. Lovely stroke of the “invisible hand”.
The marriage rate in the U.S. is at an all-time low.
too many property speculators. now the pension and welfare is set to collapse. serves them right. i have ZERO sympathy.
Get ready for the third world to invade
We have to accept lower populations and develop new economic and societal models that work for us, because a model built on an ever growing population is completely unsustainable. It is severely damaging to the planet and an econonic delusion.
Who needs 10 billion people
@@joaocosta3374but who will work in labour force? Elderly can't. Who will collect garbage and drive trucks? Give to government's a better solution
Robots and EVs@@Alexdorio-kc9yf
Africa is the only continent with a rapidly growing population.
@@dansmith16 Asia have more population growth than Africa, countries like India, Pakistan, Arab countries, central Asian countries have high birth rates
Everything has become to expensive and people wouldn’t be able to provide children with a good quality of life.
most basic needs cannot be met in the global gig economy - such as housing and energy.
You think having a child before isnt expensive?
@@wafercrackerjack880 Yes, it was cheaper before. And if we're talking about 100+ years before, it was beneficial, because it was +1 worker, so asset, and not liability.
@@wafercrackerjack880 it was expensive, but at least the basic needs were not out of reach, and now they are. even salaries of Westminster workers in their late 20s are calibrated for room rentals, which you agree is not the basis for starting a family.
energy bills for family homes are £500 per month.
Exactly, crazy having kids now.
Lower the rent of housing and you will get more kids.
Lower the interests rates, its not the landlords that are screwing you over, its the banks that are screwing the landlords, and landlords have to ask for more to make the difference up. Educate yourself.
How do you do that! The rent is a reflection of tax and availability grr
@@PowderMilk69 Low interest rates is actually one of the big reasons we have high house prices and high renting costs today, because it made debt cheaper and so increased demand for housing pushing up the price. It has also caused a chunk of people in upcoming generations to be less adaptable to changes in debt costs given the fact interest rates have been so low for over a decade. The unaffordability of buying houses has contributed to high rents as more demand for rental properties as they can't afford to buy a house themselves. In my opinion, the solution to the problem is to massively expand the council housing stock as it was in the Thatcher era. Older generations today benefitted quite a bit from council housing and their low rents, as well as benefitting from Thatcher's right to buy scheme which enabled them to buy housing at very big discounts - it is only fair (and actually better for the economy) for younger generations to also benefit from council housing and discounts as the people back in the day did.
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Increase benefits considerably and people will have more kids.
Incentivise more housing !
The European Union protects birds, bears, and lynxes, and the fact that the European population is dying out does not bother them.
Be careful they will brand you “racist” for speaking the truth. 😂
We dont protect our own.
💯
You make that sound like a bad thing. Why shouldn't all of the wildlife have a chance to come back after we reduced it by 80% in the last 300 years?
@@martainroth2588 the eu does well protecting wildlife but it should put the same effort protecting us europeans. We should close our borders first and solve our problems.
With urbanization and globalization, children have gone from a necessity to an expensive inconvenience.
Not an inconvenience but a luxury not everyone can't afford and invest time in.
We live busy meaningless lives with no time to dream or enjoy things having kids will further sink us in searching for money and be efficient which is sad and wrong.
@@lmeza1983 kids are annoying
Stop projecting
@@umarjongi3590 and there you have the root of the problem ay. Why? Too spoiled to care about someone else who is vulnerable?
@roccociccone597 nope I'm just smart enough to realise such a financial burden wouldn't be good for me or the kid
In the last 20 years or so, adult men have been warning their sons not to get married. In the last 5 years I’ve noticed mothers now telling their sons not to get married.
Almost everyone knows someone who was literally punished by the family court.
In my quite well off area, every business connected to romance / marriage has closed bar one florist that changes hands regularly and begs people to pay in cash.
Gone are the wedding venues, the bridal shops, the jewellery shops, the romance themed restaurants, all the other florists, etc.
We are entering the death spiral for marriage and families … the juice is seen as no longer worth the squeeze …
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN WANTING. I CANT BELIEVE I GET TO LIVE TO SEE IT IN MY LIFETIME. they will finally have to invest in artificial birthing technology to create more humans.
That has nothing to do with the population drop. The fact is simple, it costs a LOT of money to raise a child these days. In fact, in most Western Countries, it can be as much as 1 million dollars per child. The cause of this is the massive greed of Capitalist Corporations who need to pay their CEOs' muti millions of dollars and the executives also get extremely high pay compared to the workers. And the constant tax cuts given to those very corporations and the wealthy reduce the income revenue for the Govts to pay for things such as pensions.
For instance, Trumps tax cuts added 7.8 trillion to Americas debt, and has reduced the Govt income from taxes by 2 trillion over the next decade. This constant push for greater profits every year is the main problem and causing the issues we see today and in the future.
@@BatMan-oe2gh I agree it’s expensive to raise children, but if you look at the YT videos, both the anti-dating/marriage type and then the countless ones where females bemoan the lack of dating/suitable men, etc., there are social forces at work here above and beyond the mere cost of raising a kid (I might add this has not stopped record numbers of women raising children alone).
Shops associated with traditional romance closing is a good indicator.
Men have recently been asking women what they bring to the table? The era where men were prepared to marry poor women seems to have passed. And as for women with college debts, well forget about that, too.
Books written about how men en masse have simply “gone on strike” are probably on the money here.
Besides, almost everyone knows someone who was taken to the cleaners by the family court. Why be part of a system like this, when it is safer to actually live alone?
@@penguinvic9892 Marriage is on the slide due to the costs. So expensive to get married, so many couples choose to just live together in a Defacto relationship.
And there are so many videos going around being done by people like Andrew Tate pushing misogyny, men should treat women like they own them like a car and so on.
Only around 10% of divorces end up in the family court. I still see plenty of weddings happening.
Women with kids find it harder to get promoted at work and end up stuck in a position even though they are at times better qualified than their male counterparts.
There are a lot more issues at play regarding childbirth rates being low than what you think.
@@BatMan-oe2gh The main issue is a crises in human relationships. So many men have exited the system that young women and middle aged women still put out for an old guy like me, and I’m no movie star, or wealthy, or even well-dressed. I do own a home, though.
Simply put probably up to 50 % of men are simply not in a position to offer anything substantial to a woman or a family. Then we have the 80-20 rule (some may say the 90-10 rule), where the vast majority of women want a small minority of men. Then there’s the alphabet people, who generally don’t produce children. Followed by (mainly) men who are simply not interested. Their ranks seem to grow yearly.
Now governments can jig systems “to make it fairer” but humans are never interested in fair, they’re interested in what’s in it for them. And it would seem that a large cohort of men have decided it’s a losing game and no end of accusing them of misogyny will improve the situation.
why are birth rates falling ...because young people CANT AFFORD TO MOVE OUT AND START LIVING TOGTHER
Because mass immigration has pushed up the price of housing and pushed down the price of labour.
Correct.
And why are birth rates rising in Africa where they have much less money? In Africa they cannot afford one child yet they have 5 on average.
@@EnteleiEchein A lot of them don't think ahead and don't plan. Babies "happen".
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 Yes, and today in Europe we maybe "plan" too much. Our problem today is a problem of selfishness, because many young people who decide not to have children say that they would rather travel, see the world, pursue their hobbies, etc.
Culture. People don't wanna say it, but there's a growing amount of women that, on their own, just don't want kids. They're seen as a burden. There's a relationship war right now, how long does the average marriage last nowadays? People can't even date anymore as the sexes are at odds and distrust one another; hard to have kids when dating is in the mess that it is. Stagnant wages along with increasing costs for everyone who isn't at the top of the ladder. Poor prospects for the future; young people joining the labor market won't get the promotions, raises, job security, and benefits that past generations did. And businesses nowadays treat workers like disposable condoms anyway.
Then there's abortion. Regardless of your opinion on the matter, there go a portion of your kids right there. Laws, enforcement, social norms, divorce, and more are putting men off from dating, marriage, and kids as they have to walk on eggshells at all times and be seen as nothing more than an ATM.
Plenty of other things as well. It just all adds up.
Women have been told endlessly that being a mother is not worthwhile and to focus on their careers instead. They have been told a story that they can delay motherhood, if they want it, until their 30s or even their 40s
Finally a comment of someone that understands where this crisis is coming from. Feminism is to blame for this. And I am not talking about equal rights part of it.
@@testingforyoutubefeminism has nothing to do with this. Life's just unbearable than it was in the past and it's even worse when you have dependants. You can't be struggling to make ends meet yourself and then you add children to struggle with you. One parent job that used to take care of a home where men worked and women stayed at home to take care of a family isn't working anymore. The wages haven't changed much and inflation has made things worse, you risk starving if both of you don't work. But then, who's going to take care of home errands when both of you are working and sometimes on jobs that require both of you to travel or stay abroad?
And where does that culture stem from? The society we live in. Women doesn't want children and they're seen as a burden because there is no time. We need to work many jobs and study hard ti get an income that is barely enough to support just ourselves. And there's no help in getting kids. Before, we had villages. Society is very lonely and hard today.
Do you think this is deliberately engineered?I do.
It is crazy how countries are calling this a fertility crisis which is implying that women are at fault yet they aren't getting to the root of the problem.......everything is too damn expensive to have kids.
It is a fertility issue. Most women in West spend their fertile years studying and building a career. This means the biological clock to produce babies also shrinks because you can't settle down and start having 3-4 kids starting at age 35 for example.
Well, we are talking about a cost of living crisis. Western education and female rights allow family planning and sex without reproduction. Not so in many other countries... and the emigration from those countries increases because they all have "human rights".
The foreign demographics have no problem raising litters.
I simply can't afford to have kids. It's pretty simple. And I earn pretty much the UK average. Most of my wage goes on rent and can't get a mortgage.
Your elites are cheering your replacements crossing the Channel every night
that is it for most people
You know how the British became an empire. Lots of slaves. In the colonies and within the borders. Ppl who were desperate enough to work and maybe have children. They didn’t even think about on owning property.
Now, there are many ppl who don’t want the hard life. But that has other implications
It is not that. Simply people think more in advance and nobody want a harder life having children. And I dont blame them.
I'm from UK, like many straggling young families, we couldn't afford children, despite working donkeys hours,we are left with nothing after rent n living cost.
Done on purpose in my opinion.
Governments have made it too expensive for us to have larger families.
We stopped at two for that very reason.
and they be paying for certain big families that move into europe due to merkel and live off welfare.
Because mass immigration has pushed up the price of housing and pushed down the price of labour.
You reap what you saw, nothing happens without a reason, It's a law of karma, there are no coincidences.
Here in germany the native german women are very narcisstic persons and they don't want to lower their quality of life for some kids. On the other hand the immigrants have many children and germany pays them everything so they don'teven have to go to work
Fun Fact: In Switzerland all system is made to force one parent to give up work.
I am now pregnant soo… We will basically have only one income to live on as a family after baby is born. Great isn’t it?
I could continue to work but the problem is:
- only 3 months of maternity leave (after that I would need to give my 3 moth old infant to childcare)
- The childcare costs would take 3/4 of my salary
We will likely leave the country as soon as my unemployment insurance runs out.
Wow where would you go?
And both of you don't have parents?
Mother's should neglect their babies but should raise and nurture them.
Is that a solution? Enywere you go is the same problem. The quality of life drops. 😢
Imagine leaving Switzerland, one of the very richest and most beautiful and safest countries on the planet, because they won't let you abandon your baby and work more.
Europe's fertility crisis...
Japan's fertility crisis...
China's fertility crisis...
The list could go on with many major countries.
in developed countries the only ones who are still saved are those who manage to attract people from other countries (US on top)...
Well China has enough big population to hold it for a while, while Europe is a continent and has been suffering this situation for several decades, only being covered up by mass migration, and immigrants balancing up the loss of number of Europeans every decade..
If Europe made medicina lmarijuana legal they would have a boom of young people and young wealth which will result in child birth. Italy serious needs to implement this. 10’s of million in tax revenue annually
I was shocked that India is also facing low birth rates
China doesn't suffer from this crisis, they have already massive population
And EU policy with uncontrolled migration with immigrants priority for housing is delaying family formation thus (intentionally) exacerbating the problem in line with WEF/UN ideology.
You can't reverse this trend without looking back into history and recreating the economic model of the past where a one person income household could afford to raise a family. Continuing to promote an economic model where a 2 income household is still not enough to raise a family is a dead-end for population growth.
Throughout history people had two income house holds to survive.
The problem is the decreasing utility of children to benefit your own survival. Children went from a labor force and insurance policy to a very expensive hobby.
No matter how much money you have, there is no way spending it on an extra person leaves you with more money.
The only way to solve this is severe social instability. Like the life people have in Chad or Zimbabwe... then children will pop like crazy
@@Rasaiel Throughout history most women only worked at home, rich and poor. Except maybe if you owned a farm and the women pitched in when they were not doing housework. The few women that did work regularly earned little to nothing. up until after WWI & WWII when women were needed to work on mass when significant portions of the male population went off to fight in the wars. But yes, children gone from being an asset to being a liability.
You built a world that conceptualises people as economic units that should output or consume at all times, while the wealth divide grows and society trends towards technofeudalism and mass migration. People travel north, while the global south is scoured by the volatile scourges of climate change.
You built a world that is hostile to human life.
Reap what you have sown.
sadly true
No one built that world, the planet has never been kind to any species not even humans. That has been the standard from as far back as pre-agrarian societies where children were future economic units. Your current comfort is backed by the collective economic output and has always been.
@@reclassified_ Which doesn't change the outcome. We've seen some of the same patterns happen before in history and all end one way. So either you accept massive problems and potential collapse as a result of this, and people stop whining about the fact that they can't have their cake and eat it. Or we change something.
@@IndustrialBonecraft there has never been a full system collapse in human history. Empires have disappeared over time and replaced with others. The people have always remained as units in all that equation.
@@reclassified_ And the outcome remains the same. Reap what you have sown.
“Fertility crisis” have you seen how expensive existing is?! Yet alone being responsible for an other life for 2 decades or so…
And who will care for you when ur older than a fossil? ..........9:53
If European ethnicities want to survive and not being replaced by Africans or Asians, they they must have children no matter what. In Africa people cannot really afford to have 1 child yet they have 5 on average.
@@Will-ef2tw having children to have a someone to take care of you in your old days is a really stupid plan, it is selfish and unpredictable at the end, your children might not want to support you when old, this happens a lot.
@@kayholand_ if you take care of them they are more likely to take care of you that's how it's always been. Many cultures around the world are like this. The first world west is weird in this regard.
My cousin supports his mother as well as his wife and 2 kids. He is lower middle class. He is very unhappy about supporting his mother and paying her rent/food. She expects it as she has no pension, didn’t work most of her life so barely has social security being an immigrant to the USA. So for parents expecting your kid to look after you in old age it can happen w a huge dose of resentment from your child. At times he’s joked that he hopes she dies earlier.
Enjoyed this video much more than the last one. Good job 😉
Its not finacial costs , but high levels of anxiety in society for lower growrh rates .
Avoiding overpopulation is something we should celebrate. There are too many humans now, and way too many in places like Europe, India, Nigeria and China. Reduced fertility rates are an absolute win.
We will never run out of people. We have too many in our country. Our population in the 60s was 10 milion now it is 17 million. So we actually had an increase
Actually, we most likely will when living conditions become too unaffordable and immigrants would rather move to a different country. We are relying on immigrants to counter falling birth rates, which will only work in the short term.
Societies survived doubling in size; they can survive halving. The challenge both ways is adaptation.
No, because doubling in size in inherantly a good thing for a society while halving in size is inherently a bad thing. It is economies of scale BACKWARDS.
@@goblincookie5233Absolute nonsense! Europe THRIVED when it lost HUGE CHUNK of it's population do to black death plague of the medieval times. The remaining half or a third of the Europeans were so FILTHY RICH with all those available RESOURCES that such situation literally propelled the renaissance in Europe and gave birth of the Europe conquering this whole world!
halving in size is inherently a bad thing... How and why?@@goblincookie5233
@nathanielhellerstein5871 Doubling in size means a younger fitter population.
Halving in size leads to an older less productive population.
The only way that halving would be good is if the number of old people were reduced.
WEF and WHO and CDC are probably working to achieve this but they need a reliable medical intervention to exclude themselves because they are mostly old. I think that they have been working on this for the last few years.
The adaptation to halving in size is called submission to ones conquerors.
As far I know, France raised the retirement age illegally by not having public hearings and force feeding the change.
It was legal. The Constitutional Council approved it too. Just because the people don't like it, doesn't mean it is not legal.
It's not gonna stay that way. There will be justified violent protests.@@inbb510
Since you say legal = justified, then you AGREE that EVERY LAW the Chinese Communist party enacts is justified, because everything THEY do is legal.
The received “wisdom” is , “if populations are declining and aging there will be nobody to look after the old and do the work”
Also, there will be fewer young people for cannon fodder.
This concept is flawed in many ways.
First, people are staying fit longer and many are able to work well into their 70s.
Second, one of the biggest problems we have is youth unemployment. This is caused because low skilled jobs are being done by machines of various kinds. This trend will only be accelerated by AI. Fewer young people are needed to do the work.
Advances in robotics are already starting to replace people in caring for the old, sick and infirm. It is now possible for a surgeon to perform a robot assisted operation from thousands of miles away from the patient.
If the Ukraine has taught us anything it is that the number of soldiers has no influence on the outcome of a conflict. The more technologically advanced nation will win.
In 1850 there were around 1.4 billion humans on earth. The sooner we get back to that number the better.
People are not staying fit longer. Obesity is exploding
So not true. Being a Ukrainian, I can tell you that this war is still teaching us that numbers do matter hell of a lot. Russia makes up in cannon fodder and in mass production of artillery ammunition for the lack of high technology. Plus, a smaller country with a smaller population wouldn’t have been able to fight back to Russia.
I moved from India to US at the age of 21. I am 38 now. And I can totally live with lesser amenities and money. Yes I can have a bigger home, better cars, more vacation, but those are not necessities. The biggest issue I feel with many developed countries is the greed of people. People have basic things, but they want so much more extra stuff, that many others are left without basic things.
Thank you. I'm a German who's been living in Greece the last 20 years all through the terrible economic crisis of the country. I've come to understand that poverty is relative, not absolute. When nobody has a car, not having one doesn't bother you. It's just normal.
Those extra things help build an economy. By creating jobs, prosperity and building wealth. Duh !!!
@@helgaioannidis9365
But absolute poverty do exist.
The entire world is not West.
Exactly... they waste more on their dogs than an Indian village a month and cry about dying out. Nothing would make them bear children they are simply too selfish and egoistic to sacrifice comfort and pleasures for the risky and painful project of having children...
Fertility rate in India is close to 1.6 now. Replacement rate is 2.1. This will not end well at all, given that majority of Indians don't have a social safety net like the west. We are f'ed in the B come 2070.
It's not only about the population. It's about the demographics the migrants that are coming they reproduce exponentially. So the demographics of the entire area is going to be completely different in 25 years. I am from Munich. Already over 50% non-German.
If reproduction was just inherreted and never change why does our decline?
Todays 65 year olds are much healthier than 1950 so the retiremnet age of Bismarcks time must be raised. For astart we go to school and don't work full time until 22-25 :)
Will the migrant population be willing to pay taxes to support the elderly?
@@TheRealEdStoner No.
@@TheRealEdStoner They already do. Plus they are working in the health service and driving buses and working in care homes and ...
When you look at the percentage of foreign demographic it’s 17% for Asians and around 11-12% for African and Caribbean. I graduated in 2014 and in my nutrition lecture they highlighted some of what was said in this video. Culture shift- woman are more career oriented. Sexual liberation and the alphabet mafia choice of contraception. Even if 10,000 migrants enter the U.K. in the next 10 years, the Caucasian fertility rate will still be low.
George Orwell’s book, 1984, clearly predicts the future of western society ‘celebrating oneness.’
Who would want to bring kids up in this messed up world? I certainly don't
Exactly. There's not much of a future for them.
Migrants :/
Selfish only if your parents said the same thing!
People have been saying that since I was a kid over 60 years ago.
The world isnt messed up!
this is what happens when the concept of family goes out of the window. When its all about me and myself. The consequences of poor choices are borne by the future generations. In the 60s, Europe was conservative and had great family set up. After 70s everything seem to change. And the results are for all to see
Only white people left with some common sense are Chechens
Excellent video... but one critique. AI very likely will replace repetitive white collar jobs before replacing manual jobs that require a lot of variation. A clerk office is closer to be replaced than a construction worker.
One example The Grand Theft Auto définitive edition was made by an studio of 21 people... it was horrible, but the AI made the work that traditionally was made by programmers, replacing textures, adding illumination sources, compressing sounds, etc.
But I can see AI is perfectly capable of replacing any and all jobs..give your brain a push and you can see it too..its not that far for a fully functioning human body to be engineered with a self manufacturing unit.
@@AgastyaVed eventually everyone will be replaced... But my hope since I work in construction and at the same time I'm a nerd is that it is easier to program an algorithm that interprets images looking for cancer than programming a robot that builds floors... Eventually that robot will exist but by then the society will have adapted to the disruption of millions losing its jobs.
@@Chepicoro lol. Its not just about being able to build a robot. How much you think this robot will cost to produce and maintain? Power, movement limitations? Just because something exists it doesnt mean it is economically reasonable. The future wont be a scifi movie. It will always be cheaper to have a low wage laborer over a top end tech, expensive hardware equipment to lay some bricks..
@@rodrigovaccari7547 I agree. Capital cost and depreciation exists. It’s not all magical ai running on thin air and magically taking jobs.
One job gone means another new job being pushed in demand. I feel it is a matter of relevance whether the cost is worth investment be it labor employment or capital employment.
thats the reason EU should be more scared . africa , india and china have a lot of labourers and they are ready to work at low costs
When I was a kid, only one of my 25 classmates had a working mother. I have 7 children and my two oldest are already retired senior citizens. My 4 daughters only have given my one single grandchild. They all had careers and no interest being working mother's. Seeing this crisis on the horizon for many decades, I moved to a country in Asia with a healthy society where I live now as a old man. Our income is generated by our business here, so I don't depend on any pension from the EU. But for the babyboomers in EU all hell will break loose, when they want to retire and the bubble will just pop and leave them pennyless with no children or government able to support them.
Spoken like a boomer man who fundamentally misunderstands why women want to focus on careers
@@Bellinasaur2643 Well, I did also focus on my career before, but never on the expense of my partner.
By the way, I'm pre-baby boomer and already 15 yr. In retirement. Fact is, that all the father's of my generation been able to feed their families on one income. In my children's generation even two fulltime income is hardly enough for a descent life of a couple with two kids.
My summary: Working women didn't bring any improvement to their families. What I observe from my daughters: Getting used being financially independent, earning good money, they don't really need, suppressing their wishes for family and children until too late. I'm afraid they will end up as grumpy rich old spinster's.
@@Bellinasaur2643please enlighten us.
@@Bellinasaur2643 Why is that then lol?
Boomers will work longer to pay for their needs.
Lower population = cheaper housing, greater productivity, less pollution, re-wilding, fewer schools and universities but better ones, higher earnings, less pointless use of the worlds resources. Yes there are downsides, but a lower population is a mostly win-win.
I agree with you. The big challenge is keeping welfare up when the population ages, but the solution to this is immigration and technology.
When the black plauge hit Europe in the Middle Ages it killed virtually one third of the population: that single handedly caused Europe to be one of the richest continents for centuries to come, because it forced rapid technological breakthroughs, it caused a vast redistribution of wealth and it broke down class systems otherwise impossible to break because the lack of workers put poor people in a position of power to make demands and it caused an entire restructure of society and breakdown of feudalism in the long term.
Given the state of the world today with climate change and the accumulation of wealth in a small group of wealthy families and an economic system that needs to change, the declining population is our best hope.
Lower population means less armies , less labour force, means smaller economies, weaker countries, it also means invading by enemies, less culture power, less money , less engineers, doctors and professionals, and that means in competitive economy.
We can fear AI, and there is much to fear, but without the productivity gains that may come with it we are in deep trouble.
I dont fear AI, i love it ❤ i fear humans and their greed and irrational bullshit
The only people who are afraid or excited about AI are the ones that know nothing about it other than some sci-fi concept.
AI are machine learned algorithms. They are pretty useless for most things, but very few times the are designed in a way that tricks people into thinking it is useful.
What's most likely to happen is manufacturing moves out of Europe and more people are involved in elderly care etc. Forever growth is not sustainable, no matter how free your markets are or how many immigrants are coming into your country.
@CzupaCzups3 Why always need to buy the fruits? To pay an oversized gouvernment through tax?
@CzupaCzups3 Productivity growth is not more total products. But more products / worker. (With robois/machinery)
Pretty funny how there's a notion of AI solving our own reproductive problems.
The AI (if there's ever such a thing) would be opposed to human population growth, because it would increase the complexity of the problems it will be required to fix. No need for AI reinventing the wheel. Start lowering prices and humans will reproduce more often.
Even here in african cities birth rates have fallen drastically to 2 kids per woman. A lot of single by choice people.
Thank god
"It's better to raise two well fed healthy happy children than 6 starving kids"-- quote by my southeastern European grandmothers. They survived WW2 and it's devastation back when there was no reliable contraception. They saw neighbors starve to death. They were right. In my millenial generation, I saw that people who have kids just out of obligation/retirement plan mistreat them, and kids deserve to be loved and wanted, so it's better for people who don't really want them ( for whatever reason) not to have them.
@@marakimawth
Lol You sure? Several of the countries with the highest fertility rates on Earth are in the African continent according to birthrate statistics
@@marakimadon't thank god yet. Africa still has the highest fertility rate. Not all Africans live in cities. Just sit there and watch your race decrease while we increase.
Ai is not threatening manual jobs, it’s jobs that can be done on a computer that are threatened.
Yes, journalists have no idea where their food, water, power and gas come from, or where their wastewater and trash go. Nor how houses, roads and cars appear and work (mostly).
journalists dont even know their job...
They work as a propaganda channel for the companys that owns them.
@@gregvanpaassen
@@gregvanpaassen Actually they do. But hey, whatever floats your little hate-filled boat.
Ok so why cashiers are disappearing in the supermarkets???
Lower birth rates and decreasing population is a GOOD thing for humanity and the planet. My dad was born in 1940 when world population was 2 billion, and we were just fine, we need to get back to that population.
European leaders have placed more importance and focus on asylum seekers and migrants in Europe than their own citizens…It’s about time that Europeans are placed as 1st class citizens and not 2nd class!!
It's called the Kalergi Plan
Nonsense!!!🙄
Absolute nonsense, Vladimir.
Why you all always feel like you have less when the opposite is clearly true? So greedy
Very well said 👏 as harsh as it sounds but it is True. We need to stop this Charity business ASAP
This is all by design. It can be easily fixed by giving tax incentives to women with 2 or more children and by lowering rent and the cost of housing etc.
That being said, the current situation just shows that social democracies lead to a stagnation of the economy and a slow death.
Or maybe we could remove plenty of regulations in the EU which will lead in medium term to decrease of prices of housing, rents and in general cost of living?
Give tax incentives to women, and you are inevitably going to get even lower birth rate, I can virtually guarantee that. It's simple, but somehow many people fail to see that:
1) The more privileges women have, the less kids people have.
2) The poorer the country is, the more kids people have.
It's a fact well proven by many studies based on many decades of observation, like it or not.
Women don’t have kids alone and if they do have kids they tend to not work anyway or work less so tax incentives would make more sense going to the whole family or just the parent working
@@bornstar481 It would make sense, if you want to feel better about yourself, but not if you really want to increase birth rates. Because no one decides to have or not to have kids based on tax incentives and welfare benefits, that's not how it works. Maybe, for young people, children are not the same thing as electric cars or heat pumps.
Also you said that women don't have kids alone. So, if you really believe that a woman also needs a man to have children with, why don't you think also about incentivizing men to become fathers? I am just curious about that.
@@MyUsername09AZ I agree with your point about welfare if you do want to incentivize families you should send some welfare benefits so people can afford things like food or clothing. But I am confused. I thought the point was to incentivize creating families not single mother households. Single mothers are good people but their kids create many social problems like huge increases in crime, drug use, prostitution, violence, poverty, and decreases in education, mental health, and personal incomes.
Why is increased healthcare spend always framed as "increasing costs" while other "costs" like increased technology spend always framed as an investment bringing tonnes of jobs for people? Healthcare is the most manpower dependent industry there is, which means as the population ages, hopefully young people will be drawn to it by increasing investment and increasing salaries (and making a difference by caring for us all), which will then go towards tax revenues. The elderly will have most of the wealth in the economy of the future, and this will serve as a mechanism to distribute it to younger people in the future.
The salaries in healthcare for the low skill jobs suck
Because it's maintenance. Like a car shop.
@@zuzanazuscinova5209 cars are depreciating assets, your body is not. Besides, we celebrate businesses when they sell things like yoga and spa retreats, so why not healthcare that actually extends our natural health and lifespan?
@@souradipmyour body is a depreciating asset, the mere fact we age and start to suffer from "malfunctions" eyesight losses, backache, knee ache, loss of muscle and bone mass, etc.
Aging is a text book example of depreciation through user related wearing.
It is because every economist ands up getting things totally backwards.
Falling population is a good thing...We'll use less resources, have more space etc. etc...Most of the worlds problems derive from vastly excessive population....
Only the Muslims birth rate and Africas are going up, so the EU are probably getting assistance from these countries, it’s so good with some multiculturalism and we know that they are bringing so much good to Europe. And we know for sure that they like hard work!!!
Tunisia, Algeria, UAE Iran are already below replacement rate.
If you study only the white demographic in the U.S. and Europe, you will find that it is at the same rate of demographic decline as China and Russia. The major difference being that China has a homogeneous population, a much stronger family structure, and a many thousands years old culture. Those facts alone will probably save all East Asian societies, regardless of population decline. OTOH, The standard American family structure is increasingly a dysfunctional, abusive, single parent, fatherless home. The U.S. has to rely on immigration to maintain its population, thus diluting its common culture, which in general has mostly been about an obsession for material things.
Unfortunately true. If the current generation of young people in America are not leadership material, someone else will step in. Nature abhors a vacuum.
The original cultures based on freedom and self reliance. That created wealth, which attracted secondary cultures of immigrants who came for material reasons.
Now we have waves coming to conquer and colonize.
Very informative analysis of the fertility crisis in Europe.
Yes, I agree. There's also a fertility crisis in the U.S. when it comes to Caucasians. And I'm not sure why, because it started before everything got expensive
@@scinnycblack fertility rates are almost the same as whites.
It's not a fertility crisis. This is happening in all fully modern countries. Most of the world is poor and they have no issues making babies....
Maybe AI can make children in the future... 😂😂...
Caucasian as you mean for "non-hispanic whites" definition in the US even include middle easterns/arabs ..what a joke@@scinnyc
It has to do with values. Value of family went down, value of earning more money went up and therefore working of both parents went up. Originally, one parent worked to support a family, when both parents started to work the family could obtain more things but as time passed the economy adjusted according to the laws of supply and demand which make things more expensive which made a requirement not an option that both parents have to work in order to support a family. The result is less children and children that are raised with less interaction with their parents. That is a factor that contributes to family and social problems.The value of the life of a baby decreased while the value of being comfortable increased which made possible the use of abortions to get released from the responsibilities ( in particular men) of raising a kid. That lead to lower population. Both the need that women work and the increase of abortions have been decreasing the population of young people that would replace the population that is becoming old. That was solved by some governments by importing people from countries with very different set of values which have created a lot of social problems ( see Belgium and Sweden).
So much this. So many western people do not understand that the various crises they are facing are the results of the choices their societies made thinking they were good. However they were good only in the short term. Now they realise they can't even survive on a single income because of raised living standards and costs. Women are out working so they can't take care of children anymore. In the end people decide they can't afford children.
The solution is that women need to stay at home and raise children. It is a full time job that someone needs to do. Secondly, couples or people need to lower their living standards. Get smaller homes, don't buy cars, buy cheaper/less clothes, eat cheaper/simple meals at home, etc. etc. You need to adjust your lifestyle according to your income and not the other way around because that is impossible.
Good!
Better for the environment, better for society, more space
This is not a "problem" at all.
The family system in Western countries is weak . The youths of 18 years of age leave their parents and become independent. Leaving their parents home , need more financial resources. On other side the family system in asian countries is strong .children don't leave thier parents home even after getting marriages. The parents help them in younger age and children help them in old age.we all family members were leaving together. We are 3 brothers and finaly we built our separate houses in 2021.My father had died long ago when i was in school. My mother and we were living together . When we all brothers built our separate houses after years , we all brother's were insisting that our mother must live with us. Finally mother decided to live with me. My brothers used to visit daily our mother at my home . Last year in December my mother also died but whenever my brothers come from abroad we meet each other daily. Hope for better population in western countries 😊😊😊
China has the worst population decline so i don't know what your talking about, but okay.
@@Arianah192Very true, even in India birthrates are dropping
@@rsm5627India will face the same thing in future as economy develops.
@@rsm5627don't worry about india.. india have storng muslim population, they will be having more children, china, japan, korea etc. dont have that much muslims
Not sure where you get your stats. Youngsters can't afford to leave their parents home or have children. If anyone is having children, it's in the ME, East and Africa, and then they decide to move to the West - the land of opportunity.
The big problem is the corrupt politicians siphoning off tax revenue leading to low growth, high taxes and public services being starved of cash. The Tories in the U.K. are a prime example of this.
I agree with everything you have said bar AI. I am not convinced that AI is the silver bullet that will solve all our problems.
i agree and not only, AI risk creating problems that we don't even know how to deal with
The end of one persons salary being able to look after a household has killed the birth rate.
Its the quality inside the country what matters
Quality can not be maintained once immigrants with other mindset and culture enter a country that doesn't make children. 😅
I think the basic question no one is asking out loud is “What is in it for me?”
Finally someone with an intelligent post. It’s such a good question: “What’s in it for me?”
Very little … unless you enjoy paying out for ungrateful people who may even resent this … in an era of rising costs, etc.
We have gone from “me too” to “me only”.
There were 2 billion people in 1920s and now we are panicking about going from 8 to 4? Stop the stupid Armageddon clickbait.
The thing is that even couples who want children can't get pregnant. There are more infertile couples than diabetics.
People aren't eating right, aren't healthy and are exposed to toxins/radiation that are destroying their fertility functions
Long term use of The Pill impact fertility as does previous STDs and abortions/miscarriages.
In other words.....the post WWII sexual revolution is collecting past due rent!
Yeah, if women gets married above the age of 30, surely they will have fertility issues
Well... I don't see any disadvantage on population shrinking. Less people, better environment, less prices speculations and so on.
It’s not just a European problem like you said it’s in Asia even in America Latin America pretty much everybody but sub-Saharan Africa in the Muslim world is declining in birth rates. The issue is a culture change where families and respect for your elders and things like that which were traditional values have been replaced by what I want now by selfish personalized desires. Whatever Europe does to revive their birth rates with a they end up being a continent with 100 million people or 1 billion people. It would be in their best interest to keep the Muslims and the Africans out that are not joining their culture in, eventually going to overthrow them, if allowed to.
Keep us out? What do you think will happen to European outside of Europe on other Races territory.
"Green energy" just replaces fossil fuel dependency for copper, lithium, cobalt and rare earth metals dependency.
So what? Still better than poisoning air water and ground
@@remote24, his point is that's what renewables do too as someone has to mine those rare earths.
Also disposing wind turbines and solar panels are equally environmentally unfriendly.
Why are we so obseseed with having more and more people? Europe is overpopulated now. There's crowds everywhere, there's no flats. Europe could easyly have only half of the population.
Less congestion = lower cost. Let it decline
Stay single gents 👍
Nope
Absolutely
when Europe runs out of people maybe I'll be able to afford a house and to start a family
The 3rd World Immigrants imported En Masse via the Kalergi Plan have beat you to it.
That house will be occupied by migrants.
Europe will not run out of people; it will run out of Europeans; half a million refugees come to Europe every year; if you want to know what living conditions will be in Europe in 50 years, look at South Africa, Argentina, or Algeria, or the USA
@@funnythat9956The world, however, will not be running out of Europeans as a whole given their large presence in the likes of North America and Australia/New Zealand.
@@funnythat9956Exept that on 50 years those places Will Be beyond where we are now
Our society has never valued the most important vocation of all (Yes Motherhood) is so important!
What about fatherhood?
This is what happens when corporate greed takes over someone down the chain pays for it but gutless governments doing nothing about it
We have one child but we want more but the sheer cost of housing in the UK may force us not to have anymore. It's either that or living in overcrowded flat. It's a shame
Skyrocketing cost of living equates to having less children. It’s that simple.
Best thing that could happen. It's madness to try to prevent population decline. There are far too many people! "Who will do the work" - most work does not require high levels of fitness and old people can work. "Can we afford it" - yes we are fabulously wealthy compared to our forefathers but there are some distribution issues! Ultimately if there are fewer people there will be more reasources per person. One of the 'threats' of AI is it will take all the jobs! If we don't voluntarily reduce global population then ecological collapse, reasourse wars and starvation will. As I said, madness!
When the fertility rates drop like this, and we import ppl from Africa and the Middle East with high fertility rate, then Europe will become just like Africa/The Middle East in around 100 years.
Hope so. I love African people and Middle East ❤❤
You might think that 10.000 civilians killed during the war in Ukraine is alot... But more lifes have been taken, and lifes destroyed the last 10 years in Europe becuse of this kind of immigration...
But no love for those poor souls i guess...
Think before speaking.
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Sooner. It's happening now in the big cities.
@@account-369 Go and live in Somalia, Nigeria or the Congo then
Well that’s inevitable
People are literally swimming over the Mediterranean, how is europe going to run out of people?
It will be replaced 😢
It’s a conundrum, as health care gets better people live longer but we are taking care of the people who live longer! We don’t need to increase the population ! We just need to manage ourselves better and take care of old people
That’s happening all over the world not only in Europe. It’s happening in my country which isn’t in Europe.
Lol It's sure not happening in India and Africa
@@scinnycI don't know why poorer countries still make dozens of kids. Is it ignorance or irresponsability?
@@sharknado623 A lot of times it's actually intelligence. In the U.S., prior to the 1960s, both White and Black Americans would have lots of kids to help with farm work, their family businesses and maintaing their land. I'm not sure if that's the same case in other countries, but poor Americans had a lot of kids for decades, especially in rural areas
@@scinnycfertility is decreasing
@@robbenvanpersie1562 Not everywhere it isn't. But it's pretty low in Europe, South Korea and Japan. The top 10 countries with the highest birthrates are all in Africa though
The amount of energy AI costs will make it very unlikely it will on a grand scale become part of our society.
The landlord class is destroying humanity
Nobody absolutely nobody. “Hey honey, we can’t afford to buy a home. We both have student loans, credit card debts, and we both need to work full-time jobs just to afford to rent an apartment. But let’s do our patriotic duty and make a baby so the government will have a future taxpayer”
Declining birth rates just presents different issues than overpopulation. Humans will adapt
Job and housing security should help but why would we want that?
andrew bailey certainly does not like that.
If Europe makes it attractive to draw people back ( I would think it would be primarily those whose ancestral lines originate from Europe) then those of European descent that have settled across the world ( every continent has people of European lineage esp. ex colonies & Anglo countries) these countries have very healthy population numbers & in places like Africa where black apartheid is now a reality - Europe must incentivize these Europeans to return. It's way better than drawing Islamic radicals !
Islamic radicals are cheap workers and have better birthrate.
Black apartheid? It was nice when colonizers are doing it. But we are not allowed fight back. At least if you said your people solve the race Ish.
It would be like having the population from 1900. Europe would still be Europe. It was crowded in the 1880’s when so many migrated to America.
Cost of living is too high and corparations are prioritised over people.
I can't afford a home, a family or a new car and I'm tired of working 2 decades so far... I think this is the real reason many don't want to have kids, we barely make it and can't own anything.
Our grandfathers were able to buy land, build something snd have many children with a single job our fathers had a small house and 2 or 3 kids with a single degree, today is very different.
Artificial Intelligence to replace millions of jobs. Raising kids a luxury for rich people
Yep. Kids are luxury pets at this point.
True
All great civilizations have fallen into decadence before they disappeared. We are in that process now.
It will really hurt the rich, not the poor. Homes will be plentiful, food supplies over supplied and if we keep going in the direction of renewable energy, energy will get cheaper. Less money to the ultra wealthy but not a problem for those looking for housing, food and energy.
Kalergi Plan dude, the immigrants are set to pack Europe everywhere, a coordinated plan, don't get your hopes up.
This is also a reason why wind and solar are bad ideas.
Lots of maintenance and re-building.
We simply will not have enough people to do it.
make housing affordable again
and lower those GODDAMN TAXES
I’m in Denmark, the sad part is that many Europeans are still in denial. And given current events in the Middle East, have pretty much closed the door on immigration.
To me the situation is apparent since the late 80s/early 90s.. I wonder how some people cant still see the big picture 30+ years after.. how brainwashed you can be..
Another cost of declining population is the lose of local cultures. Many villages in Japan are disappearing along with their history and culture.
The pension comparison 📈 table is quite startling 🤔
The earth will be grateful!
The fit retired should be co-opted into the care industry and younger carers retrained for those skills that are in demand. The education system needs to swivel to provide training for skills that are in demand rather than promoting academic learning in subjects that are barely relevant to adult life.
There is no mention of the millennials' late entry into the workplace. + 26 years, I'd say, is that of my relatives. That's 10 years of no taxation - giving that I left school at 15yrs and 3/4! Not to mention their student loan debt - which - in some cases is absolutely staggering.
The debts of millennial women is also a hot potato. Since 2012 women have overtaken men in every genre of debt, including credit cards, store cards, personal loans, car repayments, and payday loans.
Women also trump men when it comes to arrears such as rent and unpaid utilities.
Student loan debt.... tell me you are american without telling me you are american. We are talking about Europe! There are no student loan debt!
@@mikatu English students yes but I'm not sure about Scotland and the rest of Europe.
Less pollution and healthier families .. we are overpopulated and births will adjust if ever we aren’t. It’s no problem but government debt and spending are ❤
This guy is predicting the future and we know how that turns out😊
If EU politicians wanted to fix population decline, why do they talk more about empowerment of women, than low fertility rate? Don't get me wrong, i support that everyone has the same opportunities, but the statistic clearly shows, successful women on top positions are less likely to have children and more likely to initiate divorce. Because women spend more years getting their education, they are also less likely to have higher amount of children. But hey this is incredible news for all the feminist, who like to write terrible articles, that state we will have huge economic benefits with increasing women's participation in the work force. Meanwhile when more old people keep retiring, how will the EU countries sustained their government budgets with higher health expenditure and higher pensions. Of course there are also other things like unaffordable housing and all these expenses, that are incredible burden to parents.
So there's only one thing we can do, open the border and let all these illegal immigrants in. This is why the leftist are so keen on this migrants
Third world countries population is growing faster even they got less resources while Europe is comparatively rich but population is decreasing. I believe it’s more to do with life style of Europeans, they do not want to take responsibility of kids and want to enjoy their life.
I’m a 27 year old childless male and I feel great lol. I think perhaps people can’t seem to find meaning to their lives without creating more life but for me I feel like I find bliss by attending to my OWN wants and needs. Maybe more ppl my age feel this way and that’s y birth rates are dropping.
Okay, as long as you promise to not demand any pension or health benefits from responsible people's children when you're elderly?
Exactly, it’s this selfish attitude that’s causing population loss.
@@ilikevinesthen they should not demand taxes from me now
@@lmeza1983 pensions and public health benefits for seniors are way more expensive than public school spending and minor health spending for children and the ratio of public spending on the elderly compared to public spending on children is only going to get more skewed.
Congrats grown up baby
Tina is nothing but fearmongering. We will not only NOT “run out of people” but having less people will in addition make Europe more sustainable to live in for its indigenous people
There won't be any indigenous Europeans left in Europe in 50 years. You don't have kids, but the African and Middle Eastern migrants do.
Politicians just keep talking about the problem but don't try to solve it.
What was the population in year 1 000? In 1 500? Was Europe declining? Is Japan stil a strong country? Did population growth in Africa, for example, bring greater peosperity?
While about 200 years ago, there was a shomaker in every village, now one big factory can supply almost the whole world. In those times, about 90% population was employed in agriculture. Now it is about 3% and the agriculture production is better. These available people together with high productivity can fill in for reduced young population.