DJI Mini 3: Battery Plus - 0% Extended Max Flight Time Test + Use In UK & Europe
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- 00:00 Start
00:50 Why Restricted in UK & Europe
01:40 How to Get One
05:05 Flight Time Test
08:30 Critical Forced Landing
11:42 Battery Depleted & Summary
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I explain why the Mini 3 Pro's Extended Battery Plus is restricted in the UK & Europe, how to get hold of one, whether you can physically or legally use it, and ultimately how much extra time you get with this extra-powered battery pack
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Really appreciate you taking the time to fully push the limits. Makes me way more comfortable to know what it's really capable of outside the listed specs.
👍🏻👍🏻
Yep, I want that extra flight time on my Mini 3 Pro. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks for that video - very informative. It was interesting to watch the final forced landing.
Brilliant content and delivery. Clear, concise and to the point. A dog lover too. Winner 😊👍
Excellent commentary and film Ian! Keep at it.
Brilliant once again. Suprised how much more you can push it. Thanks 😊👍
great video with clear narration.
Thank you for the test Ian. I too was quite surprised at the 40 minute hover test result. Very impressive. Regards to Ted. Cheers, Bob
Cheers Bob!
You've become my favorite DJI reveiwer . Thanks for reviewing the plus battery . Was waiting for this
Cheers! :)
Appreciate the tips on how to get the Mini 3 Pro extended battery plus. I’m going to get one for sure. Been amazing flying this mini drone but of course keeping the restrictions in mind.
Thanks Ian. Knowledge is power.
Thank you Ian for another great video learning more all the time with my mini 3 😀
Cheers Ian, good field test to give confidence to alleged battery specs! 😎
Can't take my eyes off Ted, he is such a star
Great video! I was sold at 37 mins.
Excellent video! Thank you
Thank you for your test, it's alway great to have a little extra flight time, I could have done with those batteries on my last holiday as I had to keep change them half way through filming and then trying to get them all recharged before my next flight. I will have to get one before my next trip.
Cheers Karen. I reckon we really will get a 40 - 45 minute flight time from these.....
Another great test.. And always nice to see Ted approves of your work 😁🐕
Keep up the good work.. 👌
Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the time lapse flight time & over ride tip. It look like there was some wind so I think that is a good time
Incredible even with the wind.
Loving my plus battery. The extra weigh seems to make the drone more stable and with the plus battery the drone is not throttling down when flying in sports mode into the wind which is a bonus too.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by throttling down?
@@conservovirtus5796 There has been a few reports of the standard battery not supplying continuous full power in strong wind, whereas the Plus Battery does give continuous full power.👍🏻
@@conservovirtus5796 with the normal battery if you fly into wind in sports mode the drone will slow down to 1-3mph until you release the right stick and reapply. With the plus battery the same thing happens but it only slows to about 12mph. In the original Firmware instead of the drone slowing a battery overload error was displayed.
@@IaninLondon This is interesting. Because at least twice now I've encountered an issue in which my drone began stalling while flying forward. I'm pushing the stick forward, but it keeps stopping and starting over and over. I'm pretty sure I was using the standard battery both times. It just happened the other day, and I was worried it wouldn't matter it back to me. Both times it seemingly stopped as randomly as it started.
I was not in sports mode though. Was in the normal setting.
its worth paying 3 time more ? No! Its only about 10 minutes more. Is it more stable with extra weight ? Ok, I put on the drone 3d printed box with haevy about 40 grams.
I totally agree with what Ted said.
Great video, thanks. very surprised at the flight time.
eu tinha mini 2 e ganhei um mini 3 ainda estou fazendo os testes.... confesso que estou gostando muito, drone sensacional.
I gotta say I fully agree with Ted on this one.
Your videos are really good
Thanks a lot!
Good stuff Ian the only thing is when it says returned a Home down expected to have the same power that you had when you started off with because the lower the battery the less power if there’s any wind don’t count on coming home
Great video.... thanks Pal
Great info Ian on the Mini 3 Pro batteries, was looking forward to the longer flight time battery until EU stopped shipping here in Spain, so have ordered the Fly More Kit. Love Ted the dog, I've got Bonnie dog and can be a nightmare when making videos when she's around! Many thanks for sharing :)
As mentioned, try eBay, but double check.... And keep the pup away from the props :)
Have two of these extended range batteries here in Canada and they are great. I do allot of flying over rivers and lakes and it's a nice safety net to have when doing so
Allot!
very useful to know it will still give you time left after reaching 0
Nice background watering, Ted.
Great test 😃 👍. You probably could have hold it a little longer if you turned off the obstacle avoidance. But still great test.
Extra flight time needed especially for travelling/vacays. Thanks for the test. I’m excited to fly and shoot some beautiful aerial footage with the Mini 3 Pro.
Wow Ian, not bad mate. Looks to me that every country has this weight restriction where you have to be registered except us here in Australia. So far apart from staying away from airports and people and height we are pretty free to fly and weight drone. How long this lasts though we don’t know, but we make the most of it while we can. Love your videos mate.
Great as usual. Thanks Ian. Merv Aussie
Thanks Merv 👍🏻👍🏻
It was a very helpful video, even though we were using a different gas.👍👍
Hi Ian
Great video as ever,could you do a video on how to pack your drone for traveling abroad, especially if traveling by plane,I was going to take mine on holiday this year,but wasn't sure on the restrictions.
Cheers.
Wow 40 mins is great
If I recall correctly, In the old days, for good health, a lipo should really stay above 20% charge but that 20% starts at 3v per cell (100% at 4.2v) so about 3.3v. Don't have a mini 3 but on other DJI drones I've tried it on, a DJI 0% still gives a voltage reading of around 3.4/3.5v so still well above the danger level and even more above the 3.0v level at which lipo's are said to die.
As you say, regular use down to a DJI 0% will shorten life as compared with not doing but it's nowhere near as critical as it was with non-intelligent batteries. Worth always checking though as somebody at some point will do a battery that gives extra time because they reduce this safety margin. So worth checking the actual voltages in the Fly App after landing from time to time to as these are the main levels to watch.
Thanks again for a great test as always.
Love your videos Ian...very informative. Looking to trade my mini 1 for the mini 3 soon
I'm up to 5 standard batteries now. You can now get them on Amazon UK. Yet the main dji suppliers and even dji direct are still saying pre order only.
I never understood the hover test, I get that its easy to do and you will get an "estimate" of the battery. But hovering actually steals more juice than flying slow around in low wind. So flying around is a more stable test and will show the most true result. Apart from that, great content as always.
True, but handily the DJI specs gave a hover-test spec to match it against. I have done giant figure of 8 flights before; they're boring enough after 20 minutes and unless you're flying in completely still air, you have cross winds and of course the additional strains of the constant pitching as you turn every few seconds, so for me, the hover test was defo the best way.
I like to see as how well it'll gose against the wind with the battery plus.
I think if you set the drone into a spiral mode of some sorts and left it until the battery gave out …that would be a better battery test …I think a drone uses more energy trying to hold a hover then slowly moving,I knows sound dumb but drone utilizes battery different then you think ,the only draw back to a circle test would be having to search for it once the battery dies then again I might be full of it too…great video I always enjoy watching you tests your wind tests helped me tremendously
FAB Video Ian. I finally received my fly more pack for my new DJI Mini 3 Pro…so far I do like the drone, but feels plasticky compared to my ancient DJI Spark :)
That Plastic feel is giving you sub-250 gm freedom! :) Good to hear from you! Cheers, Ian
Thank you very much for the video, could u make a video comparing both remotes DJI RC and N1, I've read that the new control is hard to use and looses the signal easier than the N1, so for you having both controls have u tested? what control is better talking only about signal range, thanks in advance, if you already know the answer, please, let me know.
Another good video Ian. Have you heard if you leave the batteries in the charging hub for the Mini 3 Pro they discharge quicker.
Thanks Lyn. I hadn't heard that. I recall the lack of discharge in the hub for the Mini 2, but wasn't aware of the Mini 3 hub issue. Will check it out. Ta.
I went with 3 Plus Batteries and use the 1 standard battery for setting up hyperlapse waypoints, firmware updates, etc. Still finding the 46 minute Mavic 3 battery a few minutes superior to Mini 3's rated 47. It's hard to go back to short flights after this!
Any links to where your buying in the uk mate ? Can’t seem to find any Amazon ebay online etc
Great test Ian. I wonder if by disabling the avoidance sensors it would increase battery performance when flying in open situations of course.
Yes; thought that during editing when seeing the red light on screen.... probably would have got another minute or two...
Hi Ian love your videos, any chance you can do a video in relation to the DJI Mini 3 RC with screen, some say you can use a mic in the host port to record audio, I have tried this and it did not work, have DJI removed this function.
Hi Ian, great video! Just bought the Mini 3 and am still in doubt between buying the Fly More regular or Plus, considering weight, restrictions to fly, etc. Never mind the price, which is proportional. I thought I would go for the regular, but your video made me rethink. Are there more pros than cons to the Plus battery? Cheers from Rio.
I had anxiety about getting the battery too low
Good to know how long I can push it before it's out of my hands
Thanks for the info
Gotta love the dog:-) Excellent vid, thank you.
Loved the look on your face at 40 mins, lol! 5 batteries! You have enough to HALF fill the ridiculous hard cases with 8-10 battery slots. I'd rather have more general space for filters, wide angle lens, etc.
Filters squeeze in the top flap! 🤠🤠🤠
Zero is a relative term when talking about on screen gauges, would be nice to see someone make a way of metering these batteries under a normal load to see what voltage DJI think zero actually is.
I’m in the USA , I totally agree with you. We too have some rules like this that just leave you scratching your head :(. Now the FAA wants to implement a module for drones over 249g , it must be registered with the FAA, you have to have a safety certificate and the module will allow I believe the FAA and general public Your telemetry. They know where you are and how your flying. Please anybody correct me if I have this wrong. It seems like a huge overstep of Govt. But in UK a larger battery like USA changes the class. Silly. Keep up the great videos :). Cheers as you say from Orlando FL USA
Fully agree. 'Cheers' is a mix of thanks / goodbye / happy drinking..... ;)
A trick I learned is if you are flying over water , let’s say you are in a boat flying your drone. It will make a home point. But if you are driving the boat all around and you lose connection, low battery etc, the drone will go back to where it took off from and land , but you might not be in that spot still ! So go into setting and change the return to home to HOVER , this way you can get to it / under it to land inside the boat instead of the water.
Yep, just remember to switch it back when flying on terrafirma in case you lose signal and can't move to regain it.... :)
Hi Ian, Really useful content in the videos recently for the mini 3, thanks. I’ve been out of action with the drone for 12 months after I sold my Mavic zoom but missed it and have in the past 2 days bought the mini 3 pro.
I wanted to ask a couple of questions, maybe you already have a video to point me to or can think of doing on for the topic…
Travel - tips for travelling in Europe with the mini 3 pro. Things to be prepared for in getting though the airport security, knowledge to avoid them wanting to take batteries or the drone from your hand luggage etc. what are the rules, how best to pack etc.
I have opportunity in the coming weeks for quite a bit of travel with work, I’m wanting to take the mini 3 with me. Destinations include Sweden, Switzerland and France.
I sent you a beer as a thanks in advance for any advice👍🏼
Beers always appreciated!! 🤠. Travel is easy. Generally most airlines want you to take the batteries in Hand Baggage, so you don't check them in. I have travelled with the Mini 3 Combo with drone and batteries all inside the combo bag. Airport security are well used to drones. Turkey and Turkish airlines can be very troublesome tho and I wouldn't take the drone there. 👍🏻👍🏻 Otherwise you're good to fly 👍🏻
if you recharge a lithium immediately after a full depletion and don't let it sit at all it will be just fine. the low voltage protection is there for just that in most devices. it is when you let them sit depleted for a period of time and they sag below safe low voltage that damage takes place, which would be a good amount of time sitting. just my two cents i have been dealing with lithium cells for about 20 years now and study them closely. always good to do some research though as some lithium cell technology is different and also there are they odd device out there with no protection that can deplete you cells below safe values.
Hi, do you know why DJI warns against storing the battery in the drone?
@@User-jr7vf Short term I would say it is perfectly fine. Possibly even long term. They ship the drone with the battery in it so I assume you have not to worry about parasitic draw with the drone, it seems to have good protections built in.
Very interesting, thanks for the info on how people try to sell you Intelligent Plus when in fact they are not the plus. I don;t want to go over the 250 so I really have to check what I am purchasing in batteries.
If you genuinely don't want to go over 250 grams, you can't get a Plus battery as they're heavier.
Will the freewell lens cap make it go over or seeing you replace one lens with the other maybe not? @@IaninLondon
I love your very informative videos. I am considering purchasing a Mini 3 Pro to replace my 1st generation Mavic Air. I have 2 issues with my Air. The first one is the batteries seem to self discharge down to 50 or 60% in less than a day. The other is that it requires recalibrating the compass every time I fly and usually takes up to 10 minutes to finally get it calibrated at which point I need to change out batteries and then half the time it wants a compass recalibration because I changed the battery. I was unable to get a sunrise shot at Carhenge, Nebrasks because I went through all my 50% charged batteries trying to get the compass calibrated.
Given that situation with the Mavic Air, I wonder if I will experience the same problems with the Mini 3 Pro.
Cheers Bruce. I think your batteries may be on their way out if they're discharging that quickly. I also recall the Air was very quick to tell you to recalibrate even if it didn't really need to.
In truth, the Air 2, the Air 2S and the Mini 3 are lightyears ahead of the original Air; it would be a brilliant upgrade for you and you'll love the proper range you get too.
2:54 background is priceless 🤣🤣🤣
And you didn't see the other edited outtakes...🤣
Great video. My favorite part though, is Ted taking a leak in the early part of the session. :-)
Ian, you inspired me. We just bought a plus battery.
Ian, the 500g limit are still A1, at least under EASA rules. With the larger battery we can still fly the mini 3 very near people, just not intentionally over them.
That is exactly what I say at 3:00. And there is the requirement for the A2CofC to do this, as per CAP 2012. 👍🏻
Excellent thank you. A big reason I went with Mini3 pro was because it being quiet and unobtrusive; is the larger battery any noisier>
No, not noticeably at all.
Ted is a lot more tolerant of the mini 3 in the garden than my dog. I think this battery will be great for a timelapse
He's finally got used to them 🤠
I intend to travel to England next year.
My question to you if I need to do anything before taking on my plane with my djimini3 pro to UK?
Hi Ian, a quick question if you don't mind. I want to buy the mini 3 combo but with DJI's insurance package. Where could I get it all in one place? Thanks
Very good and consise video on the larger battery and the potential beniftis. I did see that Ted did give his view on the legislation rules at 2.55m on the video
He gave it a fair few times TBH :)
@@IaninLondon hi Ian you asked me to message you!!!!
What you seem to have not realised is that the drone will in fact use MORE battery energy in the hover...when it is flying around it is generating lift and will consume less power therefore you will stretch the time out to more than 40 mins
Excellent video Ian - here in Thailand with just the one battery and its a ball ache trying to learn to fly when the battery gives out at around 20 min and wants to come home! There is a massive shortage of spare batteries and combo packs - onwards and quickly downwards as they say! best, Rik
They're becoming more available now 👍🏻
Hi Ian thank you for your time we appreciate it lovely video about batteries one question I got my Dji 3 Pro too my question is the Sd Card to recording and taken photos you just need it on booth Controller and Mini 3 Pro I got 2x128 Gb thank you From Down Under ....!!!!
Only need it in the controller if you want to screen record......👍🏻
@@IaninLondon Ian Thank you so much It's very helpful your channel ...!!!
Hi Ian, great channel, really helpful for understanding my new mini 3 pro.
One question what third-party liability and legal insurance do you use?
I have FPV UK for hobbyist flights. £20 a year.
@@IaninLondon thanks really helpful just joined - your videos are really informative and enjoyable i watch every one on the mini 3 pro.
I’d say find a mate in the US to send you the plus battery.
Heck, if you need more batteries, I can pick some up for you. So long as you pay for all charges to ship them to you.
intrigued to no weather the drone handles a lot better in windy conditions with the heavier battery on board ?
Would you get the same times when the model is having to power against a good wind
Rather than a hovver in the garden
I am surprised it did not overheat! Also would be interesting to see the difference if it had been recording 4K video as well
Well we had cooled down a bit today! And I didn't want to sap the battery with additional functions...
Awesome video as always Ian. I'm so glad more people from the Uk are trying these plus batteries. I can understand to a certain point but I still think it's a crazy plan not to give you the option of being able to purchase these considering that the rules may be revised or scrapped. Where is the best place to get these plus batteries.
I would hunt around. AliExpress do them, as do eBay, but as said, watch out and maybe confirm with the seller that these are defo the extended batteries beforehand. CHeers
@@IaninLondon Thanks Ian, yeah I did notice another channel Gavin got his from Ali express, these plus batteries are they around £100 more for the fly more kit as I know the normal fly more kit is £159 in the Uk. Did you buy the normal fly more kit and then purchase 1 or 2 of the plus batteries separately thanks 😊
@@scottjackson1812 I already had the normal Flymore kit. I just bought the 2 batteries for £100 each. Cheers 👍🏻
@@IaninLondon awesome thanks for the information 😀
What is the duration of the standard battery please. Have you done a test video on these . Cheers great content Ian ...!!!
Did you ever do the test with Mini 3 Pro? Curious if the Pro version gets the 47min advertisted flight time.
Very interesting! Often manufacturers of the equipment and the batteries will build in some margin for a percentage left when the equipment shows 0%. Whilst I agree it’s not advisable, you can normally get away with it to a point. The downside of course is that not all manufacturers do that and you can get caught out.
If you have an A2 CofC, surely you’re flying to those guidelines anyway, even if you’re flying
With a sub 250gm drone you're allowed to fly over uninvolved people. Above, then you can fly up to 500 gm up to but not over.... Subtle differences
@@IaninLondon Thanks Ian
Great test there pal. To be honest though, if you took a multimeter and tested the actual battery it wouldn't be Totally empty anyway. Around 10 - 15%. I've just bought this drone, but haven't got an ID yet. So have yo do that first.
Defo. DJI engineer these things to stop idiots like me destroying the battery or letting it deplete until it falls out of the sky.... :)
Hi Ian will the bigger battery be better in high wind because of the extra weight and also now there is more power available to the motors.
Yes, I've heard a few mention the Plus battery provides better wind handling
Thanks Ian! I'm in the UK and bought my Nano from AliExpress with no probs.
I've tried for one of the Plus batteries and it wont let me add to cart from any of the sellers!
"This product can't be shipped to the selected region"
Yep. That's happening a lot. eBay was my only option 😐
Any good online shop or eBay provider for plus batteries in Europe ?
Looks good, do you think people will be tempted to use the battery, and disregard weight restriction?
I think that's quite likely...
Have you a Link for Battery plus ?
Hi Ian, is it possible to import the non EU version of the drone/controller. Thinking about range restrictions on EU/UK drones and how to bypass them.
Thanks.
There is no different version. The transmission changes based on location. There are a few hacks out there but in truth I do not see the need for them. Next video covers this in a few days...👍🏻
That’s why I was refunded for the wide angle lens it would take it over 250g and you only have a gram spare. They say the wide angle lens isn’t for sale in the Uk.
I was thinking this: When you update the drone it gets very warm, is it not the same when hovering i mean that with out movement there will be no ventilation or is it getting ventilated by the propellers?
No, and overheating during update is a real possibility; that's why I always update outside in the breeze...
How strange. I did exactly the same test. Brand new Plus battery, 100% charged, completely windless under a canopy. I managed to stretch it to a maximum of 35 minutes.
Great video.What price should you be expecting to pay for one of these batteries into the UK?
£100 each sadly
@@IaninLondon wow so much than the standard battery then.
Good video. I hold an A2 CofC certifcation and its still confusing to me with CE marked / unmarked and transitional periods changing etc etc. Correct me if i'm wrong but the Mini 3 is still not CE marked for class C0 is it?
What I would say is that putting the Mini 3 into the C1 category (
Lots going on here.... CE is just a basic marking allowing sale in Europe. Everything has it, from your washing machine to your toaster. Numeric C classifications are what you want to look for; as yet, very few drones have them but in the UK this is not a problem as the CAA have notified us that the transition period will be extended indefinitely and the entire numeric C classes system is to be looked at again to see if fit for purpose. And yep, you're right on the intentional flying over people; use the small battery and you're fine to fly over anyone. For sub 250 gm drones, the A2CofC is not even necessary; it only affects 250-500 gm models or numeric classified models (of which there are v few as said). Cheers! :)
Is it really worth it, just buy more normal batteries, I don’t think I’ve ever needed more than 20 mins in one flight, good test though 👍👍
How much damage does the battery cop from going this low ? - i was always taught never to go below 20% if you want to optimise the cycles that the battery will deliver.
Going this low into the battery repeatedly will radically reduce the battery life and ability to output max power (for example to fight wind) in a short period of time
Hopefully DJI built in some hidden reserve to protect battery chemistry!
Well, I do say not to do this repeatedly. But I think DJI build some reserve into the display too 👍🏻
I purchased my Plus batteries from the US at a total cost of about £105 each including the shipping, from one of the largest US DJI dealers. I have noticed that on ebay some of the batteries are not original DJI batteries and are also very expensive. I now have two Plus and two Standard batteries. As most of my flying is in the countryside, the Plus batteries are ideal. I have a A2 Cof C so the restrictions for the this drone with the Plus battery just means I have to avoid delibrately overflying un-involved persons which I do anyway! If I over fly a town I use the standard batteries.
Good results all round. Non DJI batteries would surprise me tho as I wouldn't think they'd even work?
Please, tell me what US DJI seller are you talking about. I would like to buy a plus battery from Europe
From the 34th minute you lost standard use of the drone - for the next 6 minutes you were occupied in constantly pushing the left stick up, and couldn't do anything else. So by your demo, the plus battery gives only 34 minutes of normal use of the drone.
This was a test to get the max time down to zero. You'd have similar endings with a standard battery, at a shorter flight time....
i mean honestly though, why not just put the classification on the exposed part of the battery?
just sounds like it would be much simpler