DJI DRONE Batteries: Learn To 3X Lifespan! 🔸 DJI Mini 3, DJI Air 3, DJI Mavic, DJI Mini 2, Air 2s,
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Hello Flying Camera Crew! DJI “Smart Batteries” are pretty expensive so I created this little video to share some LiPo batter longevity tips I learned. Ohh man I was doing 2 major things wrong.
Please let me know if you have any questions. Fly safe gangsters!
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I worked as a battery researcher for years. This video is mostly very accurate, but a couple things are incorrect or missed compared to my observations during that time.
Charging when very cold can be another major damage factor for batteries. In most cases, i would suggest making sure batteries have warmed up to room temperature before charging. The faster the charge, the warmer the battery should be to charge without causing damage, so this is extra important when fast charging. Interestingly, heat doesn't seem to cause any extra wear when charging vs just being hot, although it's usually a good idea to let it cool down a little before charging if it's really hot.
My observations from quickly cooling a battery down after discharge suggest that this is not a problem. I wouldn't worry about keeping them warm after a flight unless you are going to recharge them soon.
Just as heat kills, storing them in a cool place extends their life. Not saying you need to go crazy with a freezer or anything like that, but maybe store in the basement. Just make sure to warm it up before charging if it's below room temperature!
Hopefully this helps someone.
There are UA-camrs trying to convince us of always buying tech as a MUST HAVE. And there is Ted showing us how to save money on the tech we already use with real world tips. Thanks buddy, this is what the community needs.👍👍👍
Thorsten I appreciate it brother. I tried to make this kinda boring topic playful.
@ThorstenAltmann - totally agree! 🤙
An interesting & insightful video! An anecdote! I had my Mavic 2 Zoom drone on a WayPoint mission, start a mission with 98% battery then about a minute into the flight over water suddenly on the screen comes up "battery critical landing". I pushed the left stick forward to get height & get home but to no avail, down into water goes the drone. I with snorkel gear swam out later that day & fished it out. Sent the drone & flight records down to DJI Australia & although out of warranty DJI replaced my drone. Very nice of them! Something else I do is number my batteries so that I cycle through them; this gives more uniformity of use.
Yeah I number mine for the same reason.
This is good advice for ANY LI Ion rechargeable battery. including your cell phone or laptop.
Two and a half years after owning my Mini 2, I decided to fly it on a 100+ degree day and make a video about it. While I made the video, I discovered the tips that DJI has on their website and that you showed. I had never bothered to check these and now regret it because my batteries have begun to swell. Apparently DJI is ok with some swelling if it goes back down but my batteries are permanently obese. Thanks for reminding us of these great tips for preserving our batteries, Ted!
Hey Christian. Fancy running into you in a comment section! Unfortunately many of us learn battery care and feeding tips only after our existing batteries have started exhibiting symptoms of underlying problems. Better to learn late than never, of course, but I suspect DJI and others treat batteries as wear and tear items and only address issues when obvious defects are present. In general, if ANY consumer battery is endowed with Power Delivery -PD 3.0 is current but when Samsung Note 10 first shipped the 45W charging could only be achieved with PD 1.0, QC 2.0 -finding a charger that actually delivered a 45w equivalent rare was difficult and NOT standardized. These days, a PD charger that adheres to the standard will rarely if ever get you in trouble. You do NOT need to by OEM branded gear. But you SHOULD by quality gear that follows standards exactly... not "generally" lol. 😂😢😅
@@BlairAir Hey, John - Always glad to see your comments in the comments. 😄 I've only had two drones. My Mavic Air batteries were swollen within the first year. Was it all my fault. Probably not. Did DJI make improvements by the time the Mini 2 came along? Very likely. As Ted said, the chips are probably better as well as some of the other components. You and Ted also talk about using the right chargers. I'm totally guilty of not following the recommended battery tips but my Mini 2 batteries lasted three years despite all the neglect I gave them. I plan on continuing to fly my Mini 2 because there's nothing wrong with it and I might invest in some new generic batteries.
Well done Ted...!
Good, sound advice beautifully presented.
As always, thanks
Excellent points, Ted! This set of issues applies across all sorts of lithium batteries, and it's an especially big deal with smart phones, since there are hundreds of millions of them kicking around. Even without temperature swings, keeping them fully charged for long periods can damage them, and a common manifestation of that damage is battery swelling (which a lot of drone owners experience, too). Smart phone makers are now incorporating software to keep batteries only mostly-charged most of the time, but DJI has more of a dilemma, since drone owners care a lot more about having their batteries fully charged in order to get the best flight time performance.
hey John! I appreciate you brother. Man I paid so little attention to proper battery care up until now. Like anything ….do something a few times and a good habit becomes second nature.
You're a frikkin' legend, mate.
You highlighted many great points about temperature range 32-104 degrees. I always thought it referred to the outdoor temp, but as you indicated its the battery temp which can be found in the safety menu. I have flow in 100 degree weather but never thought to check the battery temp as well. Thanks!
Great tips to prolong the life of those expensive batteries Ted! Thanks for putting this together.
That was sweet!!! You are the Smooth Operator when it comes to showing your skills and your passion shines through
Great stuff as always, Ted! I learned a thing or two.
Hi Ted... Thank you for these very good tips buddy... 👍👍😉🤪
I just walked upstairs to unplug my iPad and laptop
They’ve been plugged in for days! Good tip Haywire
you have an “upstairs”? ….you must be one of those fancy people i hear about.
You actually do not need to remove your laptop charger even when the battery is full. The BMS is way smarter these days.
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@@TedNemeth😂
Love your videos, man!
I have heard bits & pieces about battery care over the years but your video pulls it all together. Great stuff as usual Ted 🙏
hey Michael. Yup i was the exact same way: little bits of battery info here & thar. I figured I need to put on my man-pants and learn this boring topic. I tried to make it playful for you.
Thanks for the great information
Another awesome guide! Thanks for doing all the leg work!
right on David. Thanks for watching and saying howdy
Great work on this information. I have been looking for this info. Carl
Always amazed at your abilities, Ted. You are the master. Only you could turn esoteric gobbeldygook into a fun and interesting video, and of course pass along the important messages at the same time. Thank you for covering this subject. //Tom
Another informative video Ted, as always 😉👌
Awesome man, thanks!!
Great tips as always Ted! 👌🤟
great research and info... thanks so much for sharing....!
Everything you said is spot on. Couldn’t have added anything. This is very valuable info for people that don’t know.
Thankyou- very informative video. Cheers from Australia. 🍻
Great info man, I've been letting my mini 2 sit in the closet for months at a time without charging it, going to get it out and give it a little juice. I used to race RC cars back in the day too, fun stuff!
I'm going to pick up one of those extinguishers, but one thing to remember is never let your battery charge unattended they can create a horrendous fire in a minute
Another round of killer tips.
Excellent batter tips!!
Some Great Information and Great Video Thank You Ted🙂👍
Great info thank you!
Thank you for another great video!!
Marcell i really appreciate it my friend.
This is a very informative video for real. I definitely needed to watch this video 😮
Proper job, amazing content for drone pilots, many thanks 🙏 !
Excellent tutorial and reminder. I didn't know the battery chargers were matched up to the batteries. Learn something new every day. Thanks much!
Great tips, thanks. I have a Tenergy Balance Charger for my fixed-wing RC plane batteries and it has a 'discharge for storage' function. Is there any such animal for DJI batteries, or do you just discharge to 50% by flying the drone?
That was some very important information, especially the fire safety. Thanks Ted. Like # 654
right on man. Glad to know my goofy little videos provide some value.
Good stuff Ted. We all need to practice good battery safety.
After purchasing a drone recently, I took one of your contemporaries advice that any 100 watt charger would do, and on his advice bought an after market charger, silly me, I should seriously know better, thanks for this story, much appreciated 🙏
Good tips 👍
Thanks for the contribution to the community, Greetings from Mexico my friend Ted.
Great summary.
I've seen on another channel, the point being made that the smart battery can receive firmware updates. So, if you have a few batteries and there is a firmware update that includes the battery, you need to cycle each battery in the drone to get that udpate.
I did not hear you mention the DJI auto discharge feature, at least the Mini 3pro batteries have it where if a charged battery sits unused for 6 days or so it will automatically discharge to 65%.
I have had this happen where I picked up a battery and noticed it was warm, I checked it out and it was the auto discharge.
Ha! Nice job diving into the exciting world of recharge DJI smart batteries! Riveting topic and you made it even more relatable. Nice job and all kidding aside, I deal with fat batteries and a constant rotation in this Cali heat. Ok, here's why I really commented. Any chance you'd want to share your knowledge and insights on FAA airspace, remote ID, Geo-Fencing la la la. I know, again, a very sexy topic but like you, dealing with this in a large metro, I am constantly requesting 0 alt. and airspace waivers here in The Basin. Just a thought. Really enjoy your channel.
As mentioned on your cheat sheet, I try to avoid fast charging by using a lower wattage charger. The only time I use the fast charge feature is when I need to "top it up" before going out flying and when travelling over multiple locations in the car
This is True,,, I like the way you think PILOT!!!
Thanks Ted
Good information Ted.
Yep, good stuff for sure.
Lots of % can we trust the batterie's lights for a relative % ie 4 lights 100% 2 lights 50% or are you suggesting we connect to the controller to get more accurate percentages?
The other issue i have is going put for the day and charging 3 batteries and only using 1 because if weather changes... how many non flight charges can a battery take. I am considering only charging 2 and rotating the third one in every other month?
another great vid Ted
Roger! thank you brother.
Great tips!
Dave right on brother. Thank you for watching my friend.
I’d been looking for some battery education! As I have three drones that use the same battery, (2-Mini 3s, and a Mini 4 Pro) battery life is unique for me. I like the 50% storage idea…As all of mine usually are charged back to 100% guess I better go fly to get them down to order! LOL Darn, gotta go fly…it’s recommended ya know!
Very informative. Thank you Ted, you da man.
You caught the blood moon! great shot brother.
@@TedNemeth Yes sir, thank you
Outstanding video as always.
I looked at your link to battery safety bags, I got some last year when I got my Mini 3 Pro and used them when taking them on a plane. I've also just got some for the Mavic 3 Pro that I've just acquired. What I found when looking for these bags is that you can get ones that hold multiple batteries, typically 3 or more. I just found it not only strange but actually stupid that you would want to contain a burning battery inside a bag with 2 [or more] other batteries, setting them on fire too! Each of my batteries has its own bag.
hey Michael. I agree with you. I was just researching about getting drones & gear through airport security and there’s a few airports (domestic and international) that require those specific LiPo bags. I’m going to get a small one for travel next year.
Great info
Thanks for the helpful video. I have a question: you said it's best to keep batteries charged at around 50% (and certainly not less than about 20%) when not in use, but how does one achieve this in practice? Since the DJI intelligent charger charges up all three batteries sequentially, it's not possible (or not easy, anyway) to charge them all up halfway and then unplug.
Great information, thank you
Belinda thank you! I appreciate it. -TED
*Good info Ted 👍 For those people, including myself, permanently swollen batteries can still be used to charge other devices like phones using the adapter that came with the fly more package.*
David! How cool to see you here man. Many thanks. And that’s a great tip.
Man it’s been so long sense I’ve seen that car, way to flash me back.
Great info, thanks for sharing. Can’t wait for your next one.
Dennis did you race back in the day? The RC-10 was/is legend. They actually have huge vintage RC races and meet-ups and channels etc.
@@TedNemeth No, never was a racer or model plane flyer. Have watched the cars and planes here in San Diego. They have a club that has a strip by Sea World where we can practice with our drones.
@@TedNemeth going to Alaska and just found out I can't take my Mini 2 onboard. I told them I won't fly it while onboard only when I get off in ports. Sucks.
Great tips I lost a Mavic Air battery it was left in my car probably 5 minutes by I realized I was missing a battery the damage was already done.
Nice information Ted 👍
I just saw an after market charger saying it only charges the batteries to %98-%99 to avoid over charge and it also has a storage mode that keeps them at %60. I wonder if this would be a good option based on the specs they claim.
What RC cars did you race? I raced a Tamiya Fox, and SuperShot (still have that one!)
Common sense well presented thank you
Thanks for sharing sir..
Thank u!
Yes Beater drone
I’m looking or thinking about passing along my mini 2….
But I might keep it as the beater.
ohh i highly suggest keeping your Mini 2.
I honestly fly it more than my my M3P.
I love it so much. Just more relaxed and fun flying a beater drone.
In case no one has told you lately Ted, you are a real asset to the entire drone community. I’ll stand up on the desk right now, no joke, like dead poets society.
William! man I’m super grateful you’re part of the community here. Love your spirit. And thank you for the kind words brother.
HEY! I have a mini 2. It's not a beater dtone😂 I love it! Been flying for a couple years with it. And I've never wished for more. Maybe someday I'll upgrade to more sensors, but I'm not in any hurry.
Ed! My Mini 2 is the piece of gear that changed my life & made flying cameras my career. I still fly it ever week.
Welcome aboard to our flying camera crew
Lots of good information. What I'm still not sure of is the most common actions when using the drone. Batteries are best stored at 50%, and if stored for extended periods, then do a full cycle at least once every three months. What is a full cycle exactly, drain to 10-20%, charge to 100%, drain to 50%? Or just charge to 100% and drain to 50% (doesn't sound like a "full cycle")? What about regular use. If the batteries are low, then you want to charge because storing low is very bad. Do you charge to 50% and then store, or should you charge to 100% and then drain to 50%? Does it matter, as long as you get to 50%? This isn't easy since both options require your attention. The Fly More charger for Mini 2 and 3 pro charge each battery in sequence to 100%, so you'd have to pull each battery around 50%. I've seen the charger sometimes switch which battery is getting charged and so to be safe you'd have to do one at a time. This seems particularly time consuming and would make me avoid using the drone. The most obvious solution is to charge from 50% to 100%, and only run each battery down to 50% before pulling. But that halves your flight time. Is there a set of practical and easy steps that treat your batteries well, while also making it convenient to use the drone?
I have a 71 Cuda and changing the oil in the radiator system is essential to the longevity of your engine..
Thanks to my friend for sharing the nice video.
Great Information Ted, i learned a lot for sure. We take our batteries for granted sometimes
hey Johnnie. I know I definitely take my batteries for granted most of the time. I thought it was finally time I pay more attention before something happens. So i figured other guys might be in the same position.
Great information...thanks for putting this together. QUESTION though...should you store the batteries in the charger (unplugged of course) or pull them out? AND...your cheat sheet says to calibrate regularly. How do you do this? Thank you.
hey Rick!….i do not know if keeping the batteries in an unplugged charger case will drain the batteries. My common sense says no?
I don’t have a definitive answer brother.
Can’t fly without them mate excellent tips
yeah mate!
Looks like I've been doing everything wrong! Thanks for the informative and entertaining video ❤😃👍
hey buddy. Yeah same here, i was doing 2 major things wrong.
@@TedNemeth I've also now numbered my batteries so I'm using them in order, not just using the same one all the time... At least that's the theory. 🙂👍
Very good, Ted. Another tip: If you get a battery related warning on your controller screen, it might be time to ditch the battery. Happened to me with a Mini 2. I shrugged and ignored it after the message disappeared. Had a couple of good flights with no problem. Then out of the blue it dropped straight out of the sky landing right on the gimbal and destroying it.
yes absolutely Charles. Thank you for being part of the FLYING CAMERA CREW here!
Tks for the video , it was very enlightening ! One doubt. When I complete to charge the batteries, I must to remove from the base or I can store it on the charging base ( disconected from power )?
hey buddy. Would keeping the batteries in an unplugged case drain the batteries power? If it did I can’t imagine it would be very much. But I don’t have a definitive answer on that ma friend.
Lovely video my friend 👍👍
Hi @Ted Nemeth, thank you sooo much for all your videos.. Your videos are truly very helpful to me.. new subscriber here.. be waiting for ur next videos
yesss! welcome aboard to our FLYING CAMERA CREW. You are from the Philippines yes?
nothing said about charging the battery directly in the drone ? I assume dJI 3 port charger has some sort of charge protection as well as sequencing the batteries . I have been using an apple C charger which is listed as 20w and the older usb port rated at 10 w the tiny usb port for cell phones is rated at 5 w . what is the recommendation for slow charging the DJI batteries
Great info, I could not find anything of the controllers battery life, any suggestions, should we also keep it at 50% when not using for a few months?
hey Jim. Correct….keep the controller battery around 50% also for long term non-use
Ted, thanks for the video...yeah...I've been doing crap wrong with my batteries. So, when I hike my dog Blitz carries the drone in his backpack long with the remote and spare batteries. I was setting up my shot and Blitz was being Blitz and chasing squirrels. Finished my shot, called Blitz over, saw I left his backpack unzipped and I lost 2 batteries. Well, that was a 160.00 mistake. Lol lesson learned.
i love chasing squirrels too! …i mean dang sorry to hear you lost your batteries. Expensive little buggers.
Thanks!
Donovan! wow brother I’m super grateful for the support. Do you use a drone in your production work? Any topics you would like me to cover in a future episode?
TY
Great video!
My only question is if you recommend to only use the DJI Battery charging hub with DJI chargers or can we use any pd charger with the correct voltages ?
hey buddy. There’s some pretty high quality Chinese aftermarket companies now. But I know I would personally stay away from any super cheap non-brand name batteries & chargers.
@@TedNemeth Okay Thanks! So basically only use DJI Battery charging hub with DJI PD chargers? I was using the DJI battery hub with a samsung fast charge PD.
I noticed you had a VW Vanagon Syncro? NICE!!! 😁
Sorry did I miss the cheat sheet and where can download it?
Great video, thanks. The only point I can add is that the Mini3 and Mini3Pro batteries are Lithium-Ion and not Lithium-Polymer ;)
TED,,,What's good FAMILY... Long time no see.. Glad to see you back on the scene... Everything you said is true... Hears what I have learned.. I have the Charging Bricks for all of my DJI Drones... Those Bricks hold the Technology that DJI speaks of as far as talking care of the batteries.. They will fill up,, discharge, and I've never seen them drop below 50%... Still not everyone has the Bricks and should Definitely follow your advice on how to handle them!!!!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Rating to this Information!!!!! I learned a few things I wasn't aware of.....
hey Jonathan great to see you man. Loved ur last A2S vid. Great spot you got.
Hi, my name is Robert and I just wanna let you know that I have enjoyed watching your videos very well put together very informational. I have subscribed to your channel. I will keep watching your channel with the drones. I do have a mini three pro and also the mini two and I love Cinematic videos keep up the great work
right on! thank you for watching and taking the time to let me know you enjoy my playful tutorials. Welcome aboard
Curious, in what other countries is the accessory available? ?🧐
I my old DJI Mini2, if you stored the batteries in the charger, they would automatically discharge to a safe storage level. Do you know if it's also true on the New Mini4 ? (I assume it is).
i love your work and your are a great person
one little thing about chargers- on the air 3 there is no charger delivered with the product.
Very good, my friend 🤝😎
When i received my new mini4 pro all the three batteries were total flat would not power up drone for initialising sign in etc... hope thats ok and normal out the box for new batteries
Uf!
It makes me less work to take care of my hamster and my dishwasher.
I just want to fly my Mini 3 Pro to avoid going to the Psychiatrist.
Greetings from Uruguay.
When I am programming or updating the drone I noticed it heating up and even shutting down, so now I have a portable fan blowing air into the face of the drone and that keeps it cool.
ahhhh right on. Good tip.
Thank you for this excellent video. I have a habit of charging my batteries after a flight, trusting that they will discharge in gas I don't get a chance to fly for a few days. I've found that this works as often they're down to 3 bars when a few days have passed. In that case I recharge them before heading out, to get maximum flying time. This also means that they're usually down to about 20% after the flight. Am I damaging my batteries by charging them after a flight (until the charger stops)? Sometimes it's hard to know when the next flight is and I always like to be as ready as possible.
hey buddy. thank you for watching. I appreciate it. You asked if you are damaging your batteries by fully charging them then possibly letting them sit for a few days. I address that in the episode that DJI recommends not storing batteries at full charge. Will it damage the battery? not likely but possibly. DJI says the safest thing is to keep them at roughly 50%. Could be anywhere between like 30% to 70%. The whole point is not fully charged or fully discharged.
It would be nice if DJI had a maintenance program for the charger for long term storage with a setting just for that .