Great vid. Quite Things is such a great song but I always thought the mix was a bit toss. I always wondered how it would sound with a mint mix. This track sounds like the next best thing. Nice one Terry.
Hi Terry, as ever thanks for a great and informative video. Based on one of your other videos, I LOVED the tone of the ML Orange Amp sim, but now I've heard the Nolly on this I'm not convinced I have the sound I was after! In your opinion, in what ways would trialling/purchasing the Nolly benefit over having the ML one? Thanks in advance, and for all your great advice.
Thanks dude! Yeah I love the ML soundlabs orange rockerverb but nothing beats the Nolly for me. I think for me it still sounds great with less gain which gives me more clarity and the energy is still there. It just has a really nice tone to it too and you get it quite bright without it getting harsh or too thin. Plus the mids are nice so you don’t lose the guitars too much in the mix. There’s also just something about the Neural DSP stuff that sounds kinda real. Just all my opinion of course but I would definitely give it a try for free. Although my advice would be to download an older version of Nolly before they released the Nolly X. Hope that helps!
I'm assuming that if you never had the original Nolly plugin there's no way to get it now? I have a bunch of Neural DSP stuff, but I never had that one.
I have sort of an off-question regarding tracking and signal path.. The way I've been recording amp sims are guitar DI>amp sim>output of that track into a new audio track and printing the audio down. Then muting the di and amp sim plugin track and editing the new track that was recording the output signal of the sim track. I was used to doing this signal chain from when I was on cubase and there are input channels before the recorded audio tracks. Now that I'm on Ableton live I still use this method which leaves me with more CPU to process just audio rather than audio and plugin at the same time. I guess my question is, is this an appropriate way to track guitars through a sim? I know you're committed with the takes unless you want to record them again, which is fine.
I suppose it depends on your workflow in my mind? I guess I do a similar thing but instead of having the output of the amp sim track record into a new audio track, I just having software monitoring turned on and just record the DI with the amp sim. With Logic you can freeze tracks so if I start to run out of CPU I freeze the guitar track which I can then unfreeze if I do need to go back and edit the tone. I know a lot of mixers will say it’s better to commit to your tones early on and I do understand that as it stops you getting caught in a perpetual tweaking cycle but I like to automate things with the tone (for example some palm muted sound better if I nudge the gain up on the tube screamer pedal) so I like to be able to tinker. Not sure if Ableton has the same feature however?
We're so happy with the Mix! As always it was a blast working with you🔥
Dudes it’s a great song. Gonna be on replay for a while for sure!
Likewise! And I love the song!
Great vid. Quite Things is such a great song but I always thought the mix was a bit toss. I always wondered how it would sound with a mint mix. This track sounds like the next best thing. Nice one Terry.
Thank you! That’s amazing to hear!
Nice video and really cool song!
Hi Terry, as ever thanks for a great and informative video.
Based on one of your other videos, I LOVED the tone of the ML Orange Amp sim, but now I've heard the Nolly on this I'm not convinced I have the sound I was after!
In your opinion, in what ways would trialling/purchasing the Nolly benefit over having the ML one?
Thanks in advance, and for all your great advice.
Thanks dude!
Yeah I love the ML soundlabs orange rockerverb but nothing beats the Nolly for me. I think for me it still sounds great with less gain which gives me more clarity and the energy is still there. It just has a really nice tone to it too and you get it quite bright without it getting harsh or too thin. Plus the mids are nice so you don’t lose the guitars too much in the mix. There’s also just something about the Neural DSP stuff that sounds kinda real.
Just all my opinion of course but I would definitely give it a try for free. Although my advice would be to download an older version of Nolly before they released the Nolly X. Hope that helps!
I'm assuming that if you never had the original Nolly plugin there's no way to get it now? I have a bunch of Neural DSP stuff, but I never had that one.
I think you can! I believe with the Nolly, on the downloads page of the Neural website you can grab a past release:
neuraldsp.com/downloads
I have sort of an off-question regarding tracking and signal path..
The way I've been recording amp sims are guitar DI>amp sim>output of that track into a new audio track and printing the audio down. Then muting the di and amp sim plugin track and editing the new track that was recording the output signal of the sim track.
I was used to doing this signal chain from when I was on cubase and there are input channels before the recorded audio tracks. Now that I'm on Ableton live I still use this method which leaves me with more CPU to process just audio rather than audio and plugin at the same time.
I guess my question is, is this an appropriate way to track guitars through a sim? I know you're committed with the takes unless you want to record them again, which is fine.
I suppose it depends on your workflow in my mind? I guess I do a similar thing but instead of having the output of the amp sim track record into a new audio track, I just having software monitoring turned on and just record the DI with the amp sim. With Logic you can freeze tracks so if I start to run out of CPU I freeze the guitar track which I can then unfreeze if I do need to go back and edit the tone.
I know a lot of mixers will say it’s better to commit to your tones early on and I do understand that as it stops you getting caught in a perpetual tweaking cycle but I like to automate things with the tone (for example some palm muted sound better if I nudge the gain up on the tube screamer pedal) so I like to be able to tinker. Not sure if Ableton has the same feature however?