Road to 500 Days - Part 56: Zone of Contamination
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2024
- With the upcoming cougar changes, I decided to change the plan. We are going to ZOC and face the mining gas, looting the region before returning to Forsaken Airfield and face the cougar.
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Whoops! I accidentally labeled this as Part 57 in the intro. Sorry.
All fine
Delete your channel, it's the only way to make up for it
Don't let it happen again! 🤣
mistake were made, and forgiven. i guess the cold is making your head feel thick. 😂 🥶
Whilst I agree that FA seems like a good place to face the cougar due to its open areas, I can't shake the feeling that the cougar is going to spawn out of sight but close by, negating any benefit of those wide open spaces. One for a 'science run' try out, I feel. Watch for deer carcases in trees!
Yeah, Zak knows best but it feels risky to do it for the first time on a main run. OTOH, depending on how long you have to be in the area before the cougar spawns it could be tedious to make a run only for that purpose.
I suspect that just by the way they're programmed in, it might be a somewhat scummy encounter and spawns could literally just be an out of sight event.
Hel, the number of times I've had wolves magically spawn behind the closest tree nearby (that's where the footprints lead to) shows how cheeky (perhaps slack?) the coding is. I'm actually not looking forward to the cougar just yet as I feel it will be quite immersion breaking. But that's just my take on it.
Hi Zak! Thank you for these wonderful videos! I enjoy every minute of them. You have inspired me to start my own channel. And even though I'm just starting and learning how to do things, I'm still trying! Thank you for your hard work!
Congrats and good luck. Feel free to post your channel in my Discord so we can check it out
@@Zaknafein thank you. I just signed up and am learning Discord! I really appreciate your help! Keep up the great work!
You're always awesome zak...🤘😎
The thermus is kind of useless ngl. Things get cold way too quickly, not to meniton that using it is such a hassle, requiring you to transfer a portion out of it, and then click that portion to drink, instead of just drinking directly from the thermus and then removing a portion from it's contents.
It is more effective than regular cups, but it is a hassle to use, yes
So calm with that 2nd shot on the wolf!
Zak is getting angry with the wolves 😅 nice series!
I'm looking forward to seeing how the cougar mechanics work. I'd really like to see how they work on different levels. It's going to be interesting.
Hi zaf i just wanna say thanks for all ur vids on tips and tricks because i was finally able to get tech backpack and summit for the first time, exept i kinda got a bit to much loot but anyways thanks for the vids in general
I made the concentrator my base (specifically the entrance by the porch facing the pit) but wasn't really happy about it. Idle Camp is so much cozier, and also has storage and beds, but I ended up unable to resist how much more central to everything the concentrator is.
long dark is like that one friend in your life whom you call at midnight when you want to relieve the stress
23:47 just finished buried echoes on interloper, and I will need to craft a travois to bring home all the loot I found. Just exploring the mine got me 4 jerricans, 4 prybars, 3 stims, a dozen marine flares and a firestriker. As for the biggest hurdle in ZoC, I would say it os definitely the lack of food. I spent a whole 18 hours fishing with 4 tip-ups, left with a full belly and a 1800 cal cooked bass, so not that great all in all.
I did it not long ago on Pilgrim and OMG the loot. I filled the travois just taking the best stuff and left most of what I found there.
It was a pain dragging stuff all that way, having to shuffle things in and out again. I have a bone to pick with whoever decided it wouldn't be possible to drag the travois between Forlorn Muskeg and Mystery lake...
@beethanyweber3989 I think you're talking about broken railroad, between forlorn muskeg and mystery lake is easy. My main base is in camp office, and I did use the travois all the way from FA to ML no problem. Only issue was mainly in the small interior part of far range branch line and the landslide in BR.
In the far range branch line you can use the travois for almost all of it save for the landslide and the part where the tunnel collapses, forcing you to go through a small hallway.
@@Noxen74 I wasn't able to fit the travois past the train car that's in the tunnel on the Mystery Lake side, but maybe I just didn't hit it at quite the right angle or something.
@@bethanyweber3989 Probably because it is defenitely possible. Maybe try the other side?
@@bethanyweber3989 you can fit past on the left side if you are entering mystery lake. Just fiddle with it a little but it is doable
You missed the right freezer in the kitchen
And 2 drawers in the same room
Flare shells are the main reason I go to ZOC on Interloper
If you find corn which is possible in this zone, you can make Thompson Family Stew, which is the recipe that has the most vitamin C
They said you'll have plenty of warning when the cougar moves in, starts stalking you, etc., but NOT when it attacks. I'm wondering if the cougar is actually a mob, or if a struggle just gets initiated at some point, as a kind of "surprise" attack (after all the aforementioned warning).
Yeah I wonder if, once your "cougar threat" is high enough that certain features (a hillside, a ledge, etc) will literally spawn a cougar attack once you walk by. It'd be really weird imo if the cougar could spawn behind you in a wide open field
1:27:00 Its unlikely that the update directly fixed the issue. Driver updates always reboot the gpu, which is likely what fixed the issue (or just a full pc reboot, if thats something you also did). Its also entirely possible for an update to cause issues while its waiting to be installed, if you have it download the drivers whenever there is an update. Both reasons are why I just update the drivers whenever I can.
Loving this run ❤.
25:00 The chiasm could be filled with lava. Thats one thing that is entirely missing from the game (lava)
Yeah there are regular wolves in the ZoC but they are few and far between.
Zone wolves are just as big of a pain in the a$$ as Timber wolves in my book!
For Stalker players, u can find noisemakers in Airfield hangar if u dont want to visit Blackrock at the begining of the new run
And bleak inslet
I think its only 2.
I got curious about the Vitamin C sources. it's interesting that most of the fish are a little better raw. as expected the cooked meals are by far among the highest though It seems that of the "fully" renewable foods, ie nothing that needs carrots, flour, oil salt, canned peaches etc, is the lake whitefish and rainbow trout. [eaten raw for like 20% more vitamin C. rosehip tea is not too much further down, but it, like burdock, and reishi tea reishi being only 5 "points" is also effectively finite. so birch bark tea, while it's HALF the effect of rosehip, is, at least renewable like sticks. so, i guess that's just one more reason to hoard birch bark, huh? good to know some things can be beachcombed like reishi mushrooms.
You and I are close in days Zak. I'm on day 179 on Stalker currently. It's the furthest I've gone and I'm aiming for 500. Cheers buddy.
Btw you nearly gave me a heart attack killing those wolves
Regarding the random pauses in the game, it's not your computer. It happens on mine as well. It's the game.
That's was quite a lot of wolves, and all that for no meat, you'd wonder how such wolves can be alive at all.
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I wonder if destoying the den with noisemakers will permanently remove the cougar from that region. Would be handy for your home base region.
I think it only temporarily removes it
I think the exact wording in the dev diary was it would destroy the den for a really long time, but not forever. Who knows how long that will actually be, but it definitely isn't permanent
I really don't like the cave between the airfield and the mine, it's so confusing. Maybe it is also because it's new and I haven't been there often enough yet, but I really dread going through it as I always end up losing my way and running in circles. The Zone of Contamination is okay. It's an interesting and unique region and generally there's hardly a region on Great Bear that I genuinely don't like as they're all great in their own way. Also on Stalker the poison wolves aren't too terrible, I just end up gunning them all down. ;-) But I also have to say since Buried Echoes is done, there's really not much that makes me want to go back and spend time there either.
Yeah, I drew a map and also used the old trick of dropping a different (useless) item or a different number of sticks at all the intersections to label them to make it easier to know where I was.
maybe the freezing isn't the game itself. maybe Windows runs some updates in the background...
O boi
I wonder whether scurvy is affliction which make your character "weak". I mean for computing whether wolf flee or not when you run at it with burning torch.
Hey Zak! I remember you were talking about item decay in other region sometime, but i cant find it so i will ask it here. Does items decay in the regions that haven't been visited yet? I have a bit of FOMO because interloper fast decay makes me think that everything will be ruined by the time i will get to other regions but i want to learn each region for some time.
Yes it decays even if you havent been there
@@Zaknafein My only question to this is: I have a run on stalker at about 300 days. I have found food items that are on counter tops and tables almost always are ruined by now, Makes sense it’s day 297. But the fridge will have a fish or rabbit meat at 70%? Wouldn’t it have decayed and disappeared by now, hence it’s in a container and it was day 297. But I found a stash of plane crates I forgot to open in Timberwolf mountain and the food items inside were all 85-90% this was around day 220. Why didn’t the food in the crates and fridge disappear? You’re on day 150-160 or so, the carrots 🥕in the camp didn’t disappear. Is the decay rate slower or something. I’m glad the items have not disappeared but I used to rush to regions to find items in boxes in fear over time that region will be empty of food to loot. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. Sorry for long comment.
@@taylordoebler1209 not entirely sure about how those details work, sorry. Might just be that container food is different
Still hasn't used his thermos. Any thermos.
Wait... Is he...
Holy Schlamoley! you actually used it.
I really love TLD and i got a pretty good start the other day i started a bleak inlet and looted the region, found a rifle,went to forlon muskeg ,looted the shed whit the forge and the train, went to broken railroad and looted the repair shop,now i am in the hunting lodge planing my journey to the mystery lake to the trapers cabin and planned to hunt and cure some pelts to craft better clothing but the only problem is my only sewing kit broke and if i get atacked i wont be able to reapir my clothes. If you have some advise for me that would help survive longer i apreciate it. This is a really special game for me and loved it since the game came out❤❤❤
Sounds like you are playing Stalker or lower, so it shouldn't be too long before you find another sewing kit or 3. In the meantime, practice the torch/flare method for making wolves flee before they attack (Zak has many examples on his channel). When travelling, try to avoid tight corners/blind crests (or at least move such that you have the most warning/reaction time in those situations) so you don't get too close to a wolf for the torch/flare to work. Stop and listen once in a while - sometimes the footfall of the wolves can be masked by other ambient sounds when they are close but out of sight. Try to keep your carried weight below the sprint threshold as much as possible. Good luck survivour 🐺
Thank you fellow survivor i hope our path cross again someday
In my main run on stalker I've reached about 500 days, searched the whole world and gathered all the canisters for the gasmask and I still ran out before searching the whole mine I only got to search the first floor of it, I did not realize the canisters would be used up so fast maybe I should've waited till I had like 15 seconds left of breath before putting the mask on? Idk, I haven't fully explored/looted FA or ZOC I went through the rest of the map to make sure I haven't missed any canisters but maybe I should check FA and ZOC for more canisters? I think even if I did find a few more I wouldn't be able to get much further in the mine:/
There are loads of them in the mine itself. Its possible to explore it without cannisters but you would need to know where to go
Was there an update? I was on day 102 on Stalker, and my save file just disappeared from the earth. Got a little message "your data can't be found" when the game started, and all my saves were gone 😭
No update that affect saves since December 2022, sounds like a bug. Check your save folder or contact Hinterland support.
@@ZaknafeinThanks!
I really dislike beeing in the ZoC. Dont take me wrong, I can see that developers, designers and whole studio put good effort in it. I just feel uneasy there. Not because of poisoned wolfes are mercilless and when killed for nothing. But the whole area has something... I dont know how to say it. Other regions sure have their things like weather in BI, wolfes behind every small bump in CH. But it is natural danger. The ZoC has something which urge me to left the damned place.
I have the same feeling. Sometimes I feel like there's a witch there or something because for some reason it's spooky in my opinion. I appreciate other regions even more now.
Will there be more pacific drive episodes? Looking forward to it 😃
Yes, just need to find the time. They arent popular but I would like to finish the story
I do wish that all the doors we just open and close as they do in real life. I hate those screens that appear after you open a door. they break the immersion. the transition between areas is understandable but I want the doors to just open all the time. it would be nice if they put this in the next update.
I dont think that is something they will ever implement, I am afraid. Its not a common complaint so its likely low on the list, as it would also probably take some effort to change, considering the amount of interiors.
@@Zaknafein it's strange how you can open doors in the ZOC...Zak (heh), but they don't open anywhere else. a few of the fishing shacks open normally. so why can't they implement it everywhere? it really does break the immersion doesn't it? of course we know we're playing a game, but opening a door turns into a big reminder with a loading screen.
also, I don't use torches much and I don't think I've seen you do this, but when you're wanting good torches, but you pull bad ones out, maybe you could add the bad torches back as firewood, and maybe you'll pull another good one out. because of course as you get torches the fire dies. but if you add the torches back you might just get better torches.
@@WillSurvive2TheEnd you can do that with torches, but you need to harvest it first.
Not sure I follow your door point: there are many doors in ZOC with loading screens. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean.
@@Zaknafein I simply meant I wish that literally all doors in all structures would just open up like they did in ZOC. skip the transition screen. when I get to my MLO base, I want the doors to just open as they do in ZOC. why a transition screen anyway? all it does is give us tips that we eventually learn anyway so we don't need them repeated. I just want to walk up to the door and open it as you do in real life, as in ZOC.
@@WillSurvive2TheEnd but... thats not how it is in ZOC. All the doors by the mine, as well as nearby trailers, have a loading screen. The exception is Idle Camp, like Mountaineers Hut in TWM or Cannery in BI.
I understand what you are saying, but ZOC isnt good illustration of it. I think its not implemented because they would have to redesign all the maps and add warmth bonuses. Could be done, but is a lot of work. On a good computer the loading is less than a second so you barely notice.
I agree with you that it would be nice, though, but I dont think they will change it.
comment for the algorithm
I NEED HELP, CAN'T ACCESS FORSAKEN AIRFIELD THROUGH THE CAVE :
I don't know what's happening but the transition cave from Zone of Contamination to Forsaken Airfield doesn't allow me to enter Forsaken Airfield. Keeps me in the same spot, like a bug. I didn't do Signal Void or Buried Echoes.
Do you know what's the problem? I really don't want to give up on this save.
Did it still happen after restarting the game? Then you might want to send a support ticket to Hinterland. Alternatively go around the other way.
@@Zaknafein Yes, the bug is still there. I already wrote to them and I wait for an answer. I was thinking about going the other way, but I'm hesitant if I'll be stuck with only one way of exiting Forsaken Airfield late, because this bug could be still there when I'll be trying to go through that cave again and I don't want to play being forced to not use that cave at all.
Thank you for your reply! I thought that this bug happened to others as well. I appreciate your help and your videos!
Cougar looks/sounds like will be basically Hunted part 1&2 in survival game...
.... :/ crappy scripted struggle event...
They finally did it. Someone went and copied TLD. Woke up to a notification about Frigid, same setting, similar background music, damn near identical gameplay. Feels like plagiarism.
Will check it out. Thanks