Matt why do you spend 30 seconds complaining about cheapened out buttons having only two buttons from the four windows yet when reviewing Teslas you say nothing about the lack of buttons. Also, you mention it as a negative that the vents are controlled by the screen, which is the same as in the Tesla, and you don’t say they copied the worst of Tesla. I guess my question is why bash other cars while praise Tesla for the same things?
The drag races are super pointless, it's like people who think speeding on the highway is fast. Literally just pressing the gas and holding the steering wheel straight.@@C6Fever
I think the drag races are a lot of fun, but Carwow / Mat does do a good job on actually reviewing cars with honest opinions and good information on their strengths and weaknesses. This together makes this one of the best car related channels out there in my opinion.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
German over-engineering. Reminds me of that uboat where flushing the captain's toilet was a complex, multi-step step process and one mess up was enough to flood and sink it the ship.
I drove one of these yesterday (only for 15 min. though) and the two things that jumped out at me were the automatically adjusting headlights and how well the adaptive cruise control worked. I'm not used to current top-of-the-line cars, so maybe this is just standard now, but having the car automatically adjust to speed limits and slowing down for roundabouts w/o me touching the pedals was rather nice. Same for the headlights: set to "auto", they just do their thing: switching high-beams on and off and dimming parts of the light cone to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. Convenient. That said, the particular car I was in scratched the 70k Euro mark and that's just a crazy amount of money for ANY car that's supposed to be driven by average families. Statistically, that's more than two _YEARS_ worth of annual income for most people. For a car that's best described as comfy family sedan with reasonable range and unremarkable design. I don't care whether it's meant to be a Passat successor or if VW rather sees it as a BMW 5 series competitor - it's too bloody expensive period.
Have had our ID.6 for a year now. The adaptive cruise control works like a dream. The lane keeping function also makes driving so effortless and simple. Hopefully prices will come down. These ID. EVs in China sell for less than half the price in Europe.
Automatically adjusting to speed limits is great but occasionally it does not work and you are stuck at 30 in a 50mph zone. Yhen you have to turnit off temporarily.
The auto-slow on approach to roundabouts was like the first thing I turned off in my car - really damn irritating when you can see there's nothing there, or the traffic light is green. One of those features where if people *need*, it they shouldn't be driving. Obviously if you *want* it and like it, then more power to you. On a side note, the irony with all safety tech seems to be that it encourages the driver to slip into bad habits, or be less attentive which in turn makes driving more dangerous.
You can see that Matt is somehow lenient with this car. ID7 is a flop, nobody orders it. It's bland and without personality, doesn't say anything. I would never buy something like this. And in fact IT IS, extremely BORING.
It's just ridiculous. VW are already struggling to sell this EV junk and this will be no different. As you said, you would have to be insane to consider one at even half that price.
Finally there's a new review, after he did all of those drag races, which I don't have anything against. But it's finally time for another review. Can't wait
The reason the safety systems turn back on (after you've turned them off) when you start the car again is because they're tied to the Euro NCAP safety rating. If they could be switched off and saved then the safety rating number would reduce, and presumably the insurance companies would know about it and premiums would be higher still. Its as simple as that.
i am sure he knows that too. all cars now need that stupid safety stuff to get 5 stars. I am glad my ev is just over 12 months, old so I could turn that stuff off and it stayed off! phew...
In time there will be an aftermarket sub industry, like there was for engine remapping, of people that can hack the system and offer regaining control of your own car from the EU and disable stuff you don't want.
I doubt there is an EU regulation against a well-functioning voice control system where you'd easily be saying "disable all drivers assistance" upon starting. Either Matt didn't try this (but why the hell not?), or VW is delivering a product that is not fit for purpose (then no surprises here).
@@robc8593I hope so. But the integration that these cars have between all the subsystems mean the manufacturers will explicitly need to let us do it. Think game consoles or phones, they are pretty locked down and you need to “jailbreak” to really start modifying things.
Seeing everyone's shock over the £58k Passat and the call for more reviews really puts things into perspective. 😲 It's wild how car prices have soared, making what used to be family staples into luxury buys. 🚗💸
@@rosen9425 The market will adjust as will the prices on these things start sitting around and taking up forecourt space they'll have to lower prices to move them on. What people need to do is actualy just stop buying new cars every 3-5 years and the market will be forced to adapt.
@@benwu7980 how much more space do you need? What’s more impressive is it’s an EV that doesn’t push your knees up round your ears. For me, that puts it ahead of the Ioniq 6 and Model 3.
The trunk volume cannot be completely compared, VW complies with VDA standards DIN 70020-1 and ISO 3832. Tesla measures the volume differently. Using the same measuring method, the volume of the Model Y should also be around 500-600L. The EU is responsible for turning many assistants back on at every start, this is now regulated by law
Thanks for the video. I drove this and many other electric cars. And it is the most quiet car among all the competitors. I'm wondering how you didn't you noticed that
VW recently said they'll replace the ID.3 with the Golf name in the future. I hope they do that for the rest of the lineup - I'm so bored of the corporate number convention of naming cars. I want a Lupo not an ID.1; it just sounds so dull!
@@burgitech8643 I do belive that the ID naming will fall away by the time they phase out the ICE version. They can't call the ev version a golf, because they are different platforms. That would be misleading marketing. If there is no ICE version anymore, there can be a Golf full electric platform thus phasing out the ID naming scheme.
What's with all this constant fussing about the materials being scratchy the further down you go? What should the area below knee height be lined with? Maybe with leather? And then complain about the price, right? Understood.
Might want to get three guys in the back rather than three Eskimos. Probably might be a good idea to take the puffer jackets off when you’re reviewing cabin space.
Car reviews take note.Hard Plastics are tougher and easier to wipe clean witch is why the put them at the lower end of the door bins, because of foot scuffs.
I don't agree with this. I've had cars with both hard plastic and the soft injection molded stuff or covered in fabric. The hard plastics retain scuffs and scratches. And I've seen this on other people's cars too. If something sharp or a hard shoe knocks the hard plastic panels, it leaves a scratch that can not be wiped out. It almost etches into it. Because it's hard. Like someone scratching the exterior of the car. The soft touch plastic is more yielding and almost absorbs the pressure of something being pressed into it. The soft plastics clean up so much better and look almost new compared to hard touch. It's why Mercedes and the like used it for decades and why their old cars looked so good even after decades. Their new cars are hard plastics and some 3 year old used models I've seen look downright awful with all the scratches and scuffs that doesn't come out.
It also does make the cars look Cheap and Like Toys. having a Full Body colored car is Elegant and Looks 100x Better. yes, there are Drawbacks. Personally, I think the Drawbacks of the Bisible Ugly plastic are Heavier than the Clean elegant painted look. The Volvo Cross Country Series Does make it Look good. but that's about it.
@@SDav21To me the best are the cars who used to have some kind of hard foam covered with vinyl. Its easy to clean, scratch resistant (hell the previous owner of my Audi 80 used to put two dogs in the back and i don't have any scratches on the doors) and its quite too for protecting you in case of impact (a lot of cars used this foam as a bumper on the steering wheel). I recently got into a impact accident with a more modern car and the dash was so hard it collided with my ankle quite hard!
@@grang-jc2ee VW EV's don't even account for 8% of their 2023 vehicle deliveries, and they've admitted they saw demand dropping even further. I don't think they're discontinuing their petrol vehicles anytime soon, as long as regulation allows. And once they do, I don't think you're gonna see Passat EV's (or any VW EV) around for much longer.
@@jimj2683That doesn't make sense. The Passat will go away, the ID models are here to stay (and to be developed further). For an efficent EV you need a special platform: And that's the MEB+ platform that is used by the ID7.
Yeah, certainly more than fast enough in normal traffic. The car actually performed a noticeable amount better than claimed. They claimed 6.5 but it did a sub 6 seconds. I thought Mat could have been a bit more positive about that.
I fully agree with you about the window switches. There is more than enough space for four switches. Or at least make the "rear" switch a real button, so I know the state without looking.
I work at a vw main dealer and I find they nice to drive they’re v smooth, quick AND WAYYYY bigger in person they’re massive compared to the old Passat and the space inside is humongous they would be a good daily driver if u had smth fun for the weekends and long trips
Had a Cupra as a rental car upp in Luleå during the winter. The auto lane assist was a straight upp danger as it would make up its own lanes randomly and try to drive you off into the forest without warning... And it restarting every time was a huge annoyance.
Blame EU pencil pushers. Every car will have this. My electric iX3 has lane assist on but it works quite well - it vibrates but you can easily over power it if you feel the car is wrong. Other manufacturers may have a worse implementation.
If your car has the steering wheel on the left then your fuse box is also on the left, thus it has a full glove box. Vw did not move the fuse box with the wheel when they made the right side driving cars so they got a smaller one.
Skoda wont get an electric SuperB, they forgot the cost cutting with the new ICE SuperB and added alot of dials and buttons. So many physical buttons that VAG will never recover :) My current Passat B8 lease is ending and iam seriously considering getting the SuperB this time because its the better car against the new B9 Passat...
@@ciybersal3499 Eniaq kinda fills this space for them. Based on the strategy so far, it looks like SEAT and Skoda got 1 Electric Car Each(Small form factor for Born and SUV for Eniaq) and kept the other form factors to VW themselves. I am waiting for Skoda Octavia Electric to upgrade from my Scala, but to be honest, VW EVs are lackluster to say the least. MG4 looks like much better value, and Atto 3 matches it in quality for 10k less. Obv the risk with chinese EVs is resale value and longetivity, but even outside of the Chinese bargain EVs, Hyundai EVs are far more interesting, with better drivetrains, Kia EV6 is an absolute beauty, Tesla 3 has the name recognition and is still a leading EV in many areas. There is simply no reason to go VAG for your EV. And I say that as a long time VAG Driver(Had everything from Polo to Passat, the Scala I have now is my first non VW VAG I owned).
@@ciybersal3499 I just don't understand how so many makers have the software stuff so poorly implemented. Aside from the fact that pretty much every reviewer and person I know prefers knobs or buttons or whatever call the vent direction controls to be physical, so many makers are putting them in sub-sub-menus, which can't really be a cost saving. With this id7 in particular, having to go into menu to turn off assists every time start the car, is simply ridiculous.
@@Rockport1911 The successor of the Superb will probably not be called Superb. It will probably follow some similar naming scheme to the Enyaq. Which I do find sad, the Superb is a very nice car and I like the name
The turning circle is 10.9 meters, though. Not 12.3 at Mat says, that is for the AWD version of the car, which hadn’t come out yet when this video was published.
This look better than i expected, i mean it's a VW Sedan, they're not supposed to look exciting. but personally i'ts not my Thing, now if this was an EV Golf or Scirocco GTI/R and it would look unassuming, that would be different. People wonder "why do People buy this and that instead of "enter new EV Brand here"". This is why: These will sell well because of Brand Loyalty and easy access to Repairs/Service, if your VW EV and other Legacy Brand EV has issues or breaks down, you'll get a Replacement for the Time its in the Shop without any Hassle. Just one of the many Reasons why so many People prefer to buy an EV from a Brand they have good Experiences with instead of daring to buy some Brand they had no Experience with whatsoever.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
@@ciybersal3499 Just drive your fancy new car from a super innovative new car brand and don't post the same "average" text under every comment :) Thank you
be it as it may... but make it so I can add a settings profile to specific keys with some "load individual safety-settings"-button. I have driven on a highway not that long ago when a construction site came along. The white lane markings were replaced by temporary yellow markings. The assist function didn't understand this and began to steer me under a lorry. It took some pretty aggressive wheel-turning to keep it from murdering me, resulting in zigzagging in the narrow construction lane at highway speeds. It was magical...
@@hendrickziegler8487 In the UK we often have cars parked in the road. Even with white lines in the road I have on multiple occasions been steered into parked cars. Driver Assistant settings are sometimes dangerous. *Forcing* people to use them is so fucking dumb.
@@MikeyCompton a mid-range VW will use Lidar and camera systems and will not steer you into physical barriers. At worst mine brakes if it mistakes parked cars and thinks they're in my lane.
I honestly think this quick overview doesn't do the car justice. And some statements are quite oppsing to other reviews. From what I've learned is, that this car has actually best in class efficiency. In terms of features and quality it competes with cars costing much more. It has good software (in a VW!). Android Auto or the Apple stuff can be used with the head up display. Great lightning. Excellent seats. Yes, it costs a fortune, but so does a EQS or i5. I hate the whole ID line so far. But I think this is clearly a turning point.
Oh dear lord. I thought we were moving away from everything being on the touch screen. Between the window switches and having to do changing the vent direction on the touchscreen even? Are they TRYING to make their cars unappealable?
It seems so. I simply HATE new cars 😂 these interiors are awful and user friendliness/ergonomics honed over the past few decades (probably peaking ~2019) just thrown away in the bin
We need affordable family Evs with a decent 300 mile range, this isn't it. And the window switches and air vent flow direction adjustment is ridiculous. How can they charge over 50 grand when they cheap out so much?
My i-MiEV was similar with cost-cutting options along with some niceties. Example: No rear speakers, but a lighted vanity mirror. Tupperware interior, but speed-sensitive wipers. Ridiculously small instrument cluster, but heated seats and steering wheel.
I'd always take manufacturers range claims with a bit of cynicism, VW even moreso. At least when it was just a mpg figure, we sort of all understood it to be based on some ideal driving, conditions etc I assume EV's have a few similar caveats regarding range, like flooring it after light turns green gonna hurt range a bit.. but it really should be something reviewers test a bit more than what was shown here, or some independent source.
@@jegerm6752 Tesla is actually a good option if need some integration with a charging network, and don't care about lies about features, and don't really mind how bad the build quality is.
It's a British video after all, and it's not difficult to multiply by 1.6 (like 16 km is 10 miles). However mpg (or miles per kWh) is actually confusing, as Continental Europe uses reciprocal measures (i.e. like litres per km, and not kms per litre), like Europe emphasizes how many petrol you use per unit of distance, and UK & US emphasize how many km/mi you can drive on a unit of petrol.
btw 350 miles is like 560 km (like from Gdańsk to Czech border in PL), if we assume an actual range were 250 miles (400 km), it is acceptable for a car to drive daily.
I think the reason it resets those driving assistance features is because there are laws that mandate a few of them to be re-enabled once the car is restarted.
The Passat gone?? I mean, I like this car, but it is a weird shape, not really sedan like the Passat was. It looks more like a crossover had a baby with a swdan.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
You have to dive into a menu to point the vents. Madness! Do they have motors in them to point? Ditch them, save weight and use the saving to put in manual adjusters
Tesla boot space numbers are very misleading. They add up the underfloor space in the Model 3, and the space upto the roof in the Model Y. Other manufacturers only state the figures upto the rear seat headrests so Tesla figures appear bigger
21:25 3.1 mi/kWh mean absolutely nothing without knowing the driving profile, ambient temperature, AC power draw, heat pump yes/no?, wind. 7°C is pretty cold. All EVs lose a lot of range when it's cold. Btw did you leave the car opened in the cold. That would explain why your display didn't react, despite it working for every other reviewer out there.
@herkimersnerd8740 Yes. When i wrote 'driving profile', I meant velocity as function of distance (which includes the information for accelerations and avg speed) and the altitude differential(start-end). Good reviewers always take the same route: a long trip from A to B and back to A on the same highway. They take the measurement when they are back at point A and not somewhere in the middle of the trip. That way it's unlikely the result was influenced by wind a lot and the altitude differntial is 0.
True enough, so we might assume it will do a little better in reality. It needs to, as competition especially from Tesla would return closer to 4mi/kWh at that temperature. I was getting 4.4 yesterday with an average speed of 60 due to traffic on the motorway in a model 3 long range over 240 miles. Thats a real world range of 340 miles out of the same 77 kWh usable battery.
@@joshbridges8410 Ams: 110kph avg speed, 17°C, 3 passengers, suboptimal topology -> 3.5 mi/kwh Edit: It's real competitor in terms of weight and size would be the model S btw. Even the Model S is not as comfortable and luxurious btw.
@@sebvv5219 no, as even VW have stated, it's a competitor to the model 3, and prices compatible to model 3 (before Tesla's price drop). Nobody is shopping for a car and choosing between a Model S and an iD.7. A closer comparison from the VW group lineup would be the Q8 e-tron. The fact it weighs as much as a model S is just poor design and one source of its inefficiency.
@@joshbridges8410 "no, as even VW have stated, it's a competitor to the model 3" citation needed. "Nobody is shopping for a car and choosing between a Model S and an iD.7." citation needed. "A closer comparison from the VW group lineup would be the Q8 e-tron." So a SUV is more comparable to a sedan, than..... a sedan?! "The fact it weighs as much as a model S is just poor design and one source of its inefficiency." Nope. It's bc it's a much bigger, more luxurious car than the model 3. Does the model 3 have air-vented, heated massage seats with a cooling function?
I’ve always liked the Passat and I like the ID7, to a point. But, I think all electric cars are quite boring and they’re all the same. The infrastructure just isn’t quite here in the UK yet either. Not sold on electric cars, yet.
12:32 I can't believe they left that same stupid door panel switch from the id4 in the id7. Why not just take a switch out the Jetta's parts bin??? Why try to complicate something that's so easy?
My MK 7.5 e-Golf has individual window switches on the driver's door and it's really annoying as the rear ones fall easiest to hand and I usually end up opening one of those first by accident. I'd prefer the system in the ID7, it makes more sense to me.
I am always sad to see that they remove stuff and increase prices to ungodly level. However I must say you are right - most of the time I only open the front windows and probably the only time I open a rear window (when not venting air out during summer) is by accident
Exactly my thoughts. I don't drive a VW, but I've been thinking "who on earth wants to have two rows of these buttons" ever since people started complaining about it. Every single time that I want to open the front window on my car, I open the back window. Because sure as hell I'm not going to look away from the road while driving. And the back window control is in the "right place". 🤷🏻♂️
You should really look more critical on numbers of tesla before telling them. I guess they measure boot capacity in US in some weird unit like donkey heads and did some math error when converting that to liters. The Model Y has more or less same capacity as an ID4 and Model 3 is just small.
Was thinking about the window switches. Very minor point, yet in my case I do not remember the last time I used the switches for the back seat. Note to self. Check to see if they actually work.
A replacement battery pack won't cost you anything if it is under the 8 year warranty. It will also cost you nothing if claimed under insurance. Any battery pack is theoretically repairable - it depends on what damage it has suffered. I doubt if any manufacturer would repair a faulty battery pack. They would provide an exchange, not clear if this would be a new or "reconditioned" unit.
All People here complaining about the price. I think that extremely depends on the country. Over her in Germany I just speced the ID7 pro with the highest specs and it costs around 48.000 pound, which I find is fair for a middle to premium class electric sedan.
Volkswagen never learns a lesson they tried going up market before in the US and their sales tanked the Toureg CC Arteon and phaeton were all pulled from US because no one bought them now we are getting this $60.000.00 US and the ID buzz $60,000.00 and a Tiguan 2025 going up $6.000.00 crazy
Great review, but in most reviews I saw, the id.7 was very efficient, even at higher speeds on the Autobahn. Easily doing 400+ km at higher speeds. While also charging pretty fast.
We have a byd atto 3 for the past 4 months and the steering wheel is very bad with quality the seat belt broke and the system rebooted its self and the sensors work sometimes very bad and we might get this but the bigger version
I am not totally against the iD range.... but I do find them a bit boring in the styling department. The biggest issue is that the entire iD range is expensive. I wonder if they will hold their residual values? Somehow, I think Skoda will hold their values better than VW.
@sssssneaker Of course.... The same goes for Toyota. They have been found cheating the emissions, cheating NCAP safety tests and cheating fuel consumption tests!
Never heard you call some of Tesla’s questionable design quirks crap. Or highlight their fines for dubious activities. Not showing a bias are you Matt ?
Nice to have these back, Mat! Just a UX thing - the QR codes are useless if you're watching on a mobile device and I bet your user stats would tell you that most of people use a phone to watch these videos. Nice idea though Keep the amazing content coming
Great review! Astonishing how they were able to make the car much more expensive than a Tesla and the turning radius wider than a Model 3. It already feels like a ship when turning.
In mid 2000's my uncle bought a 2.0 FSI Passat. The version was called "Highline" and it had many of the options (Sunroof, Alcantara-Leather seats, cruise control, heated seats, automatic wipers and so on). I think it was 32.000 Euros which at the time. Probably half what this one starts from. I can see no justification for that as it's the same market segment.
We must take into account that Euro (as well as pounds and other currencies) in 2004 was more valuable than now... Back in 2002 my dad bought a 206 for 40000 zł, now it's hard to find a compact car for less than 80K. But still, EVs are relatively expensive compared to their ICE equivalents.
Inflation is one thing, but buying power is whole another thing. Prices went 100% up because of the inflation in like 10 years, but salaries for the same work places are maybe 10 or at best case 30% higher in the same time frame. And it's the same situation over whole Europe. So, it's no wonder sale number at falling down...
I got one after test-driving just about everything with electric with enough range and space, and I can't agree with Matt on all points. I drive somewhat sporty, and this car's handling, steering feel and throttle response were vastly better than others, the X-Peng P7 came closest. And the Harman-Kardon stereo in the optional interior package (featured on this review car) is REALLY good. A Taycan is a lot better still, but much more expensive.
I would most certainly consider it! Today I drive a Peugeot 508 GT that is equipped with a totally normal ICE. I love this car to pieces, and will probably never ever drive a car as nice as this, but the app that is supposed to keep track of my driving, where I am or have been, gas mileage, service intervals and whatever new FW that is suitable for my car - it is such an utter piece of crap that it makes me want to change brand altogether. Those who are running hybrids or full EV's are not the slightest bit more happy than me when it comes to how the app behaves. And when it comes to how we interact with our cars, the mobile app will get more and more important. It doesn't matter if you have the smoooooothest and best ride in the world if you have an app that is downright stupid, silly, erratic, malfunctioning or even worse. The application support is non-existent or totally incapable of fixing or giving you the slightest hint of things will get better soon. So.... please, revisit some cars and check out how well they do with the ever more important apps that accompany them.
And it's stupid because it's not good for safety. Recently I was almost in an accident on a big junction with three lanes turning left. I always turn off the lane assist, but I forgot it this time. The turn crosses a long broken line, which the car detected as a solid line, and the car effectively tried to push me into the car on the right...
19:24 The turning Circle is 10.9 Meters. A quick google search can tell you as much. As an owner of the car it feels incredibly maneuverable to drive for its size. Had a Arteon before, it compares in no way whatsoever when it comes to in town driving.
I dont mind that its an EV, but its ugly on the outside and the interior is too simple. Its like entering an empty room... Horrible Tesla trend... Btw isnt it to replace the Arteon? Like.. it looks nothing like the Passat :\
I think the acoustics in the cabin are also an important point, we are now going to hear more wind and road noise, so it will be good to see how the traditional car makers handle this vs the new electric manufacturers.
Autogeful is biased with his reviews. He sounds like German marketing machine. can't believe people give af about how many colours the led the screen changes
I wonder if the rain lubricates the tarmac and tire interface to remove that tire noise.. whatever sound's left is drowned out by the sound of the rain on the windows
Good analysis about the advantage VW had with its powertrain. Compare with KIA & Hyundai where almost the opposite was true but now the roles are swapped with the Hyundai 800v architecture 240kW charging V2L and all the gadget options putting the VW in the shade. It's also deadly dull, grandads will love it.
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Matt why do you spend 30 seconds complaining about cheapened out buttons having only two buttons from the four windows yet when reviewing Teslas you say nothing about the lack of buttons. Also, you mention it as a negative that the vents are controlled by the screen, which is the same as in the Tesla, and you don’t say they copied the worst of Tesla. I guess my question is why bash other cars while praise Tesla for the same things?
Because these channels are no longer about the cars, they are about the money received from the car brands.
It's Volkswagen,it's born to be boring. Full stop right here.
Where’s the new Duster??
What happened to Toyota manipulating quality control and deceiving consumers for 34 years?
Keep the reviews coming Mat. Was getting quite tired of the drag races.
😅💀 how about 60/40?
Couldn't agree more
It's only you who is tired
tired of German brand positive reviews
@@Lemingtona-x5gyou too
Looks like I’m not the only one who prefers the car reviews over the drag races
No you're not. Ther is on more guy so you are 2
The drag races are super pointless, it's like people who think speeding on the highway is fast. Literally just pressing the gas and holding the steering wheel straight.@@C6Fever
I think the drag races are a lot of fun, but Carwow / Mat does do a good job on actually reviewing cars with honest opinions and good information on their strengths and weaknesses. This together makes this one of the best car related channels out there in my opinion.
these boring ass car reviews
Me too
Where do manufacturers think we all work??? £58k for a Passat !!!!
All CEO’s
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
It’s not a Passat its more like a Phaeton with its length of almost 5 metres
Love my Subaru Legacy
@@binflydushy it's a Passat
Love that Volkswagen has made simply opening a window a two step process. Brilliant.
German over-engineering.
Reminds me of that uboat where flushing the captain's toilet was a complex, multi-step step process and one mess up was enough to flood and sink it the ship.
Not saying the design is perfect but as someone who routinely opens the rear when I'm trying to open my window, VW might be on to something
This fucking windows never do what they should ..
@@nikolavukovic9790 i do this all the time as well, so this is not that bad of an idea
I have never lowered the rear windows of my ID.3. The biggest non-issue ever!
I drove one of these yesterday (only for 15 min. though) and the two things that jumped out at me were the automatically adjusting headlights and how well the adaptive cruise control worked. I'm not used to current top-of-the-line cars, so maybe this is just standard now, but having the car automatically adjust to speed limits and slowing down for roundabouts w/o me touching the pedals was rather nice. Same for the headlights: set to "auto", they just do their thing: switching high-beams on and off and dimming parts of the light cone to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. Convenient.
That said, the particular car I was in scratched the 70k Euro mark and that's just a crazy amount of money for ANY car that's supposed to be driven by average families. Statistically, that's more than two _YEARS_ worth of annual income for most people. For a car that's best described as comfy family sedan with reasonable range and unremarkable design. I don't care whether it's meant to be a Passat successor or if VW rather sees it as a BMW 5 series competitor - it's too bloody expensive period.
Have had our ID.6 for a year now. The adaptive cruise control works like a dream. The lane keeping function also makes driving so effortless and simple. Hopefully prices will come down. These ID. EVs in China sell for less than half the price in Europe.
Automatically adjusting to speed limits is great but occasionally it does not work and you are stuck at 30 in a 50mph zone. Yhen you have to turnit off temporarily.
The auto-slow on approach to roundabouts was like the first thing I turned off in my car - really damn irritating when you can see there's nothing there, or the traffic light is green. One of those features where if people *need*, it they shouldn't be driving. Obviously if you *want* it and like it, then more power to you.
On a side note, the irony with all safety tech seems to be that it encourages the driver to slip into bad habits, or be less attentive which in turn makes driving more dangerous.
Sustainability cars sure have unsustainable prices. 😅
That's the point. They want nobody to drive cars anymore. Can't afford an EV? Be happy and own nothing, peasant!
„you will own nothing and be happy“ - klaus schwab
Nothing sustainable about EV's, and they're the very antithesis of enviromentally friendly.
And terrible resale value and repair costs.
And they will basically be a 'total loss' after 8-10 years when the battery is done. Not very 'sustainable' at all!
and VWexpect the replacement for the passat to start at £50k+ worlds gone mad
You can see that Matt is somehow lenient with this car. ID7 is a flop, nobody orders it. It's bland and without personality, doesn't say anything. I would never buy something like this. And in fact IT IS, extremely BORING.
And it's electric .. so it's a scam
the car is out since 2 months and it doesnt replace the passat
It's just ridiculous. VW are already struggling to sell this EV junk and this will be no different. As you said, you would have to be insane to consider one at even half that price.
@@lorandmatyas That doesn't even make sense.
Finally there's a new review, after he did all of those drag races, which I don't have anything against. But it's finally time for another review. Can't wait
Drag races are balls. Utterly pointless filler content.
Looks a bit big to be a Model 3 competitor. The Model 3 is pretty small, this is a rather large sedan.
Matt’s favourite line: “As you go down, things get a little bit scratchy”. 😳
if that distracts you from the glaring problems of this awful car, then we really are doomed lol
Morning Mr Tyler. Going... down... 😉
The reason the safety systems turn back on (after you've turned them off) when you start the car again is because they're tied to the Euro NCAP safety rating. If they could be switched off and saved then the safety rating number would reduce, and presumably the insurance companies would know about it and premiums would be higher still. Its as simple as that.
Yeah. But annoying af
i am sure he knows that too. all cars now need that stupid safety stuff to get 5 stars. I am glad my ev is just over 12 months, old so I could turn that stuff off and it stayed off! phew...
In time there will be an aftermarket sub industry, like there was for engine remapping, of people that can hack the system and offer regaining control of your own car from the EU and disable stuff you don't want.
I doubt there is an EU regulation against a well-functioning voice control system where you'd easily be saying "disable all drivers assistance" upon starting.
Either Matt didn't try this (but why the hell not?), or VW is delivering a product that is not fit for purpose (then no surprises here).
@@robc8593I hope so. But the integration that these cars have between all the subsystems mean the manufacturers will explicitly need to let us do it. Think game consoles or phones, they are pretty locked down and you need to “jailbreak” to really start modifying things.
Seeing everyone's shock over the £58k Passat and the call for more reviews really puts things into perspective. 😲 It's wild how car prices have soared, making what used to be family staples into luxury buys. 🚗💸
VW are jokers, for 2K more you can have the stunning Kia EV6 with AWD and 576bhp, what loon would buy the Passat?
Everyone maker is off their meds pricing. They are going to fail like nothing we ever seen. There is no market for this!
@@rosen9425 The market will adjust as will the prices on these things start sitting around and taking up forecourt space they'll have to lower prices to move them on. What people need to do is actualy just stop buying new cars every 3-5 years and the market will be forced to adapt.
@@gravemind6536
I hope you're right, but I'm quite sceptical about it
No. Don't beat around the bush and lie. EV car prices. Not car prices. EVs are responsible for jacking up prices across the board.
£50k+ for a dull VW family saloon? Absolute madness.
It’s as big as a 7 Series or S Class though
@@oliverstemp9132 On the outside, yeah close enough, but doesn't seem to translate to the room inside.
@oliverstemp9132 mate, it's like 5 inches shorter than the current 5 series.
@@benwu7980 how much more space do you need? What’s more impressive is it’s an EV that doesn’t push your knees up round your ears. For me, that puts it ahead of the Ioniq 6 and Model 3.
@@Shevabestfan the new 5 is a very big car. The point being the ID7 is bigger than all its competitors.
The trunk volume cannot be completely compared, VW complies with VDA standards DIN 70020-1 and ISO 3832. Tesla measures the volume differently. Using the same measuring method, the volume of the Model Y should also be around 500-600L. The EU is responsible for turning many assistants back on at every start, this is now regulated by law
Thanks for not posting just another drag race, those have been way too common lately..
Asking ChatGPT about Volkswagens fines whilst sitting in a Volkswagen is the most Matt thing ever! 😂
In the first 10 seconds of the video is very clear that Matt do not like the car a bit.
yes, here I noticed that british and germans are the same race. both not funny
Thanks for the video. I drove this and many other electric cars. And it is the most quiet car among all the competitors. I'm wondering how you didn't you noticed that
VW recently said they'll replace the ID.3 with the Golf name in the future. I hope they do that for the rest of the lineup - I'm so bored of the corporate number convention of naming cars. I want a Lupo not an ID.1; it just sounds so dull!
My thoughts on all such names. So uninspiring. However so are most of the designs which just copy and paste other cars from the lineup
In another statement they claimed that the next Golf would be smaller than the current ID.3. So the ID.3 might become the T-Cross.
it's called e-Up! not Lupo or ID.1
I don't think they'll do that. The EVs of VW are called ID.X. Golf will stay with combustion engine and hybrid and there will definitely be a Golf 9.
@@burgitech8643 I do belive that the ID naming will fall away by the time they phase out the ICE version. They can't call the ev version a golf, because they are different platforms. That would be misleading marketing. If there is no ICE version anymore, there can be a Golf full electric platform thus phasing out the ID naming scheme.
What's with all this constant fussing about the materials being scratchy the further down you go? What should the area below knee height be lined with? Maybe with leather? And then complain about the price, right? Understood.
Already a pretty expensive car… shouldn’t be cheaping out unnecessarily
Might want to get three guys in the back rather than three Eskimos.
Probably might be a good idea to take the puffer jackets off when you’re reviewing cabin space.
Car reviews take note.Hard Plastics are tougher and easier to wipe clean witch is why the put them at the lower end of the door bins, because of foot scuffs.
I don't agree with this. I've had cars with both hard plastic and the soft injection molded stuff or covered in fabric. The hard plastics retain scuffs and scratches. And I've seen this on other people's cars too. If something sharp or a hard shoe knocks the hard plastic panels, it leaves a scratch that can not be wiped out. It almost etches into it. Because it's hard. Like someone scratching the exterior of the car. The soft touch plastic is more yielding and almost absorbs the pressure of something being pressed into it. The soft plastics clean up so much better and look almost new compared to hard touch. It's why Mercedes and the like used it for decades and why their old cars looked so good even after decades. Their new cars are hard plastics and some 3 year old used models I've seen look downright awful with all the scratches and scuffs that doesn't come out.
It also does make the cars look Cheap and Like Toys. having a Full Body colored car is Elegant and Looks 100x Better. yes, there are Drawbacks. Personally, I think the Drawbacks of the Bisible Ugly plastic are Heavier than the Clean elegant painted look. The Volvo Cross Country Series Does make it Look good. but that's about it.
@@SDav21To me the best are the cars who used to have some kind of hard foam covered with vinyl.
Its easy to clean, scratch resistant (hell the previous owner of my Audi 80 used to put two dogs in the back and i don't have any scratches on the doors) and its quite too for protecting you in case of impact (a lot of cars used this foam as a bumper on the steering wheel).
I recently got into a impact accident with a more modern car and the dash was so hard it collided with my ankle quite hard!
The ID.7 isn't the replacement for the Passat - the Passat got a new version just a few weeks ago...
Atm it is probably the electric equivalent but in the future the passat will not exist cause of the engine. Then the id7 is the replacement i guess
At some point in the future (probably the next generation) the passat will go electric and the id7 will go away.
I think it's meant to the eventual Successor, once VW discontinues their petrol lineup.
@@grang-jc2ee VW EV's don't even account for 8% of their 2023 vehicle deliveries, and they've admitted they saw demand dropping even further.
I don't think they're discontinuing their petrol vehicles anytime soon, as long as regulation allows. And once they do, I don't think you're gonna see Passat EV's (or any VW EV) around for much longer.
@@jimj2683That doesn't make sense.
The Passat will go away, the ID models are here to stay (and to be developed further).
For an efficent EV you need a special platform: And that's the MEB+ platform that is used by the ID7.
Sub six seconds 0-60 - 'not bad' apparently. Remember when that was pretty much supercar pace?
its bedtime grandpa
Exacte my thoughts 😂
i still consider it super sporty.
Yeah, certainly more than fast enough in normal traffic. The car actually performed a noticeable amount better than claimed. They claimed 6.5 but it did a sub 6 seconds. I thought Mat could have been a bit more positive about that.
The 0-60 of the 1987 Mustang GT 5.0 V8 is 6.2 seconds. This car beats it and is "not bad". I get it, John.
The fact it doesn't stop in B mode is useful in Germany as some residential streets have a 5 km / hour limit
I fully agree with you about the window switches. There is more than enough space for four switches. Or at least make the "rear" switch a real button, so I know the state without looking.
Finally, a review after all the drag races! Keep up the amazing work Mat and Carwow team!
That’s it, continue posting car reviews Matt
I work at a vw main dealer and I find they nice to drive they’re v smooth, quick AND WAYYYY bigger in person they’re massive compared to the old Passat and the space inside is humongous they would be a good daily driver if u had smth fun for the weekends and long trips
Had a Cupra as a rental car upp in Luleå during the winter. The auto lane assist was a straight upp danger as it would make up its own lanes randomly and try to drive you off into the forest without warning... And it restarting every time was a huge annoyance.
Blame EU pencil pushers. Every car will have this. My electric iX3 has lane assist on but it works quite well - it vibrates but you can easily over power it if you feel the car is wrong. Other manufacturers may have a worse implementation.
Just got our ID7 (Stockholm Sweden 4 March 2024)
The glove box don't look same as in your test car.
We got a normal space, no middle wall. 👍👍
If your car has the steering wheel on the left then your fuse box is also on the left, thus it has a full glove box. Vw did not move the fuse box with the wheel when they made the right side driving cars so they got a smaller one.
I am curious what Skoda will be allowed to do with this
Hopefully much better, this is pretty boring, wind nose, bad turning circle he says, average software and v expensive
Skoda wont get an electric SuperB, they forgot the cost cutting with the new ICE SuperB and added alot of dials and buttons. So many physical buttons that VAG will never recover :)
My current Passat B8 lease is ending and iam seriously considering getting the SuperB this time because its the better car against the new B9 Passat...
@@ciybersal3499 Eniaq kinda fills this space for them. Based on the strategy so far, it looks like SEAT and Skoda got 1 Electric Car Each(Small form factor for Born and SUV for Eniaq) and kept the other form factors to VW themselves. I am waiting for Skoda Octavia Electric to upgrade from my Scala, but to be honest, VW EVs are lackluster to say the least. MG4 looks like much better value, and Atto 3 matches it in quality for 10k less. Obv the risk with chinese EVs is resale value and longetivity, but even outside of the Chinese bargain EVs, Hyundai EVs are far more interesting, with better drivetrains, Kia EV6 is an absolute beauty, Tesla 3 has the name recognition and is still a leading EV in many areas. There is simply no reason to go VAG for your EV. And I say that as a long time VAG Driver(Had everything from Polo to Passat, the Scala I have now is my first non VW VAG I owned).
@@ciybersal3499 I just don't understand how so many makers have the software stuff so poorly implemented. Aside from the fact that pretty much every reviewer and person I know prefers knobs or buttons or whatever call the vent direction controls to be physical, so many makers are putting them in sub-sub-menus, which can't really be a cost saving.
With this id7 in particular, having to go into menu to turn off assists every time start the car, is simply ridiculous.
@@Rockport1911 The successor of the Superb will probably not be called Superb. It will probably follow some similar naming scheme to the Enyaq. Which I do find sad, the Superb is a very nice car and I like the name
My Golf 8 starting routine is ignition > lane assist off > start/stop off > engine > go
You forgot ESP off….or is that a touch too far 😀😀
My MX-5 is ignition > go
My Fiat, ignition n go. Got only abs n tempomat.
@@monk3yboy69
what the hell are you even driving and where? 😆 the only time I see ESP engaging is iced over roads on end-of life winter tyres.
can't you code it to save the value? I hate this stuff
We still have the Passat Estate (at least in mainland Europe)
Ah I didn't realise the UK wasn't in Europe..thanks
@@issachunt3418
It IS Europe! But this is how Matt says all the time.
The new Passat Estate is still available in MAINLAND Europe, OK?
Theres a new Generation of Passat coming to the UK too
Good review Matt. Very balanced journalism and informative. Not just surface level, but some background too.
The turning circle is 10.9 meters, though. Not 12.3 at Mat says, that is for the AWD version of the car, which hadn’t come out yet when this video was published.
ID7 turning circle is 10,9m instead of 12,3m. source= VW
Can you believe anything VW says after Dieselgate!?
@@gdok6088yes, if it’s anything like the ID.3 or ID.4, then the turning circle would be brilliant.
@@gdok6088 Other journalist claim it has a very good turning circle. Do you believe Tesla's claims about their trunk space?
yes u are right, the turning circle is way smaller than he said
@@reeshthegoat possibly on the GTX model, with its front motor. same as on the ID.4, turning circle increases a lot of the 4WD models
This look better than i expected, i mean it's a VW Sedan, they're not supposed to look exciting. but personally i'ts not my Thing, now if this was an EV Golf or Scirocco GTI/R and it would look unassuming, that would be different.
People wonder "why do People buy this and that instead of "enter new EV Brand here"". This is why:
These will sell well because of Brand Loyalty and easy access to Repairs/Service, if your VW EV and other Legacy Brand EV has issues or breaks down, you'll get a Replacement for the Time its in the Shop without any Hassle. Just one of the many Reasons why so many People prefer to buy an EV from a Brand they have good Experiences with instead of daring to buy some Brand they had no Experience with whatsoever.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
@@ciybersal3499 Just drive your fancy new car from a super innovative new car brand and don't post the same "average" text under every comment :) Thank you
the safty settings reset after restart is an ncap function and all cars will do so in future
be it as it may... but make it so I can add a settings profile to specific keys with some "load individual safety-settings"-button. I have driven on a highway not that long ago when a construction site came along. The white lane markings were replaced by temporary yellow markings. The assist function didn't understand this and began to steer me under a lorry. It took some pretty aggressive wheel-turning to keep it from murdering me, resulting in zigzagging in the narrow construction lane at highway speeds. It was magical...
@@hendrickziegler8487 In the UK we often have cars parked in the road. Even with white lines in the road I have on multiple occasions been steered into parked cars.
Driver Assistant settings are sometimes dangerous. *Forcing* people to use them is so fucking dumb.
@@MikeyCompton a mid-range VW will use Lidar and camera systems and will not steer you into physical barriers. At worst mine brakes if it mistakes parked cars and thinks they're in my lane.
Bruv, the turning circle is only 10,9 meters, not 12,3...
I honestly think this quick overview doesn't do the car justice. And some statements are quite oppsing to other reviews. From what I've learned is, that this car has actually best in class efficiency. In terms of features and quality it competes with cars costing much more. It has good software (in a VW!). Android Auto or the Apple stuff can be used with the head up display. Great lightning. Excellent seats. Yes, it costs a fortune, but so does a EQS or i5.
I hate the whole ID line so far. But I think this is clearly a turning point.
Oh dear lord. I thought we were moving away from everything being on the touch screen. Between the window switches and having to do changing the vent direction on the touchscreen even? Are they TRYING to make their cars unappealable?
It seems so. I simply HATE new cars 😂 these interiors are awful and user friendliness/ergonomics honed over the past few decades (probably peaking ~2019) just thrown away in the bin
We need affordable family Evs with a decent 300 mile range, this isn't it. And the window switches and air vent flow direction adjustment is ridiculous. How can they charge over 50 grand when they cheap out so much?
My i-MiEV was similar with cost-cutting options along with some niceties. Example: No rear speakers, but a lighted vanity mirror. Tupperware interior, but speed-sensitive wipers. Ridiculously small instrument cluster, but heated seats and steering wheel.
We need to do like de agriculteurs to car prices we need to do long drives and the eletrics are too expensive
I'd always take manufacturers range claims with a bit of cynicism, VW even moreso.
At least when it was just a mpg figure, we sort of all understood it to be based on some ideal driving, conditions etc
I assume EV's have a few similar caveats regarding range, like flooring it after light turns green gonna hurt range a bit.. but it really should be something reviewers test a bit more than what was shown here, or some independent source.
Only one answer: Tesla
@@jegerm6752 Tesla is actually a good option if need some integration with a charging network, and don't care about lies about features, and don't really mind how bad the build quality is.
please use metric system also in range and mpg
It's a British video after all, and it's not difficult to multiply by 1.6 (like 16 km is 10 miles). However mpg (or miles per kWh) is actually confusing, as Continental Europe uses reciprocal measures (i.e. like litres per km, and not kms per litre), like Europe emphasizes how many petrol you use per unit of distance, and UK & US emphasize how many km/mi you can drive on a unit of petrol.
btw 350 miles is like 560 km (like from Gdańsk to Czech border in PL), if we assume an actual range were 250 miles (400 km), it is acceptable for a car to drive daily.
@@RooiGevaar19Just use the metric system it isn't that hard
ikr@@djangomueller
Brits are metric except they drive using miles per hour. 😅
I think the reason it resets those driving assistance features is because there are laws that mandate a few of them to be re-enabled once the car is restarted.
Turning circle is 10.9m - which is actually a meter LESS then the competition you mentioned - poor research?
BW Bland Wagon. Even that side crease looks like an after thought.
The Passat gone?? I mean, I like this car, but it is a weird shape, not really sedan like the Passat was. It looks more like a crossover had a baby with a swdan.
Problem is legacy were good at engines n their own personalities.With that USP gone this is just a expensive legacy brand which has nothing on newer entrants which give you quicker, better value car stuff better software n more modern tech. As Matt states here brake pedal fell is average, it's only good from point a to point B, average turning circle, average multimedia controls, Wind noise. Very very average VW for £58K
Theres also a new Passat that's been announced!
thank fuk@@davesmith9104
Passat is gone
@@edwardvalivonis23 I work for VW, no it isn't. It will just only be an estate
More reviews! We eating good today!😄
I don't think the 2 window switches is an issue. Does it light up or anything when you've activated it?
You have to dive into a menu to point the vents. Madness! Do they have motors in them to point? Ditch them, save weight and use the saving to put in manual adjusters
Tesla boot space numbers are very misleading. They add up the underfloor space in the Model 3, and the space upto the roof in the Model Y. Other manufacturers only state the figures upto the rear seat headrests so Tesla figures appear bigger
Under floor boot space isn't space then? Where did you come across the differing measures - not heard of such a thing before.
21:25 3.1 mi/kWh mean absolutely nothing without knowing the driving profile, ambient temperature, AC power draw, heat pump yes/no?, wind.
7°C is pretty cold. All EVs lose a lot of range when it's cold.
Btw did you leave the car opened in the cold. That would explain why your display didn't react, despite it working for every other reviewer out there.
@herkimersnerd8740 Yes. When i wrote 'driving profile', I meant velocity as function of distance (which includes the information for accelerations and avg speed) and the altitude differential(start-end).
Good reviewers always take the same route: a long trip from A to B and back to A on the same highway. They take the measurement when they are back at point A and not somewhere in the middle of the trip. That way it's unlikely the result was influenced by wind a lot and the altitude differntial is 0.
True enough, so we might assume it will do a little better in reality. It needs to, as competition especially from Tesla would return closer to 4mi/kWh at that temperature. I was getting 4.4 yesterday with an average speed of 60 due to traffic on the motorway in a model 3 long range over 240 miles. Thats a real world range of 340 miles out of the same 77 kWh usable battery.
@@joshbridges8410 Ams: 110kph avg speed, 17°C, 3 passengers, suboptimal topology -> 3.5 mi/kwh
Edit: It's real competitor in terms of weight and size would be the model S btw. Even the Model S is not as comfortable and luxurious btw.
@@sebvv5219 no, as even VW have stated, it's a competitor to the model 3, and prices compatible to model 3 (before Tesla's price drop). Nobody is shopping for a car and choosing between a Model S and an iD.7.
A closer comparison from the VW group lineup would be the Q8 e-tron.
The fact it weighs as much as a model S is just poor design and one source of its inefficiency.
@@joshbridges8410 "no, as even VW have stated, it's a competitor to the model 3"
citation needed.
"Nobody is shopping for a car and choosing between a Model S and an iD.7."
citation needed.
"A closer comparison from the VW group lineup would be the Q8 e-tron."
So a SUV is more comparable to a sedan, than..... a sedan?!
"The fact it weighs as much as a model S is just poor design and one source of its inefficiency."
Nope. It's bc it's a much bigger, more luxurious car than the model 3.
Does the model 3 have air-vented, heated massage seats with a cooling function?
gotta say, the haptic buttons work like a charm
presses 5 times on temperature, moves once
I’ve always liked the Passat and I like the ID7, to a point. But, I think all electric cars are quite boring and they’re all the same. The infrastructure just isn’t quite here in the UK yet either. Not sold on electric cars, yet.
12:32 I can't believe they left that same stupid door panel switch from the id4 in the id7.
Why not just take a switch out the Jetta's parts bin???
Why try to complicate something that's so easy?
My MK 7.5 e-Golf has individual window switches on the driver's door and it's really annoying as the rear ones fall easiest to hand and I usually end up opening one of those first by accident. I'd prefer the system in the ID7, it makes more sense to me.
I am always sad to see that they remove stuff and increase prices to ungodly level. However I must say you are right - most of the time I only open the front windows and probably the only time I open a rear window (when not venting air out during summer) is by accident
Exactly my thoughts. I don't drive a VW, but I've been thinking "who on earth wants to have two rows of these buttons" ever since people started complaining about it.
Every single time that I want to open the front window on my car, I open the back window. Because sure as hell I'm not going to look away from the road while driving. And the back window control is in the "right place". 🤷🏻♂️
23:56 and onwards honestly encapsulates the situation for all legacy manufactures and electric cars.
They will catch up in a couple of years. Cars are used a lot longer than smartphones. When I need a new car there will be plenty of options.
@@MetalheadAndNerd they may
The interior is 10 times nicer than Tesla's Model 3.
Should be for all the extra it's costing.
You should really look more critical on numbers of tesla before telling them. I guess they measure boot capacity in US in some weird unit like donkey heads and did some math error when converting that to liters. The Model Y has more or less same capacity as an ID4 and Model 3 is just small.
Looking forward to the review on the new ID.4, as this seems a bit lumpy for most people, and would be better as an estate version, I think.
The ID7 will be available as an Estate
Its the first Id-Model i would consider buying when I would be looking for a Limusine.
Especially because it looks not that cheap inside anymore.
The ID3 this year is pretty much the same, it even has seat massage and all other features this one has (is also not the cheapest one though)
Was thinking about the window switches. Very minor point, yet in my case I do not remember the last time I used the switches for the back seat. Note to self. Check to see if they actually work.
thanks to VW, you can now use the back windows unintentionally.
@@bidzej86exactly what I wanted to say :)), so dumb
24:30
Truer words haven't been spoken.
Completely agree with you Mat.
So a replacement battery on the Hyundai Ionic 6 costs more the car. VW can repair batteries apparently, should be included in the review if true.
VW can replace inidividual modules (blocks of cells). I think this car has 12 modules, each of which will cost you like 2000 € to replace
A replacement battery pack won't cost you anything if it is under the 8 year warranty. It will also cost you nothing if claimed under insurance. Any battery pack is theoretically repairable - it depends on what damage it has suffered. I doubt if any manufacturer would repair a faulty battery pack. They would provide an exchange, not clear if this would be a new or "reconditioned" unit.
All People here complaining about the price. I think that extremely depends on the country. Over her in Germany I just speced the ID7 pro with the highest specs and it costs around 48.000 pound, which I find is fair for a middle to premium class electric sedan.
The new ID.7 Match spec starts at £51K so it has already had a much needed price cut.
In netherlands this car with optional features selected costs around 68k euro🤦♂️
Volkswagen never learns a lesson they tried going up market before in the US and their sales tanked the Toureg CC Arteon and phaeton were all pulled from US because no one bought them now we are getting this $60.000.00 US and the ID buzz $60,000.00 and a Tiguan 2025 going up $6.000.00 crazy
That's why Tesla is winning. The ID7 is also A6, which will probably cost $80 000.
thanks and never mind. there will be another Golf. combustion. and a GTi.
Great review, but in most reviews I saw, the id.7 was very efficient, even at higher speeds on the Autobahn. Easily doing 400+ km at higher speeds. While also charging pretty fast.
We have a byd atto 3 for the past 4 months and the steering wheel is very bad with quality the seat belt broke and the system rebooted its self and the sensors work sometimes very bad and we might get this but the bigger version
I am not totally against the iD range.... but I do find them a bit boring in the styling department. The biggest issue is that the entire iD range is expensive.
I wonder if they will hold their residual values? Somehow, I think Skoda will hold their values better than VW.
Yes In the end he called it not exciting so basically boring car
@herkimersnerd8740 No problem... I get it. Its the same type of people than only wanted their car to be painted SILVER.
they're expensive because somebody has to pay their dieselgate fines haha
@sssssneaker Of course.... The same goes for Toyota. They have been found cheating the emissions, cheating NCAP safety tests and cheating fuel consumption tests!
Agreed. The current Passat, Areton, Tiguan, Golf or Polo are pretty looking cars... don't understand the ID range is so boring looking...
Am I the only one that still has the old car wow intro playing in there head at the strat of the video. 😢 I miss it
Never heard you call some of Tesla’s questionable design quirks crap. Or highlight their fines for dubious activities. Not showing a bias are you Matt ?
Thought that to. Not very neutral this review
I agree, his voice gives it away
Agreed. Didn't seem like a fair review. If Matt can't stay unbiased, there really isn't any point to doing reviews.
Nice to have these back, Mat!
Just a UX thing - the QR codes are useless if you're watching on a mobile device and I bet your user stats would tell you that most of people use a phone to watch these videos. Nice idea though
Keep the amazing content coming
Great review! Astonishing how they were able to make the car much more expensive than a Tesla and the turning radius wider than a Model 3. It already feels like a ship when turning.
In mid 2000's my uncle bought a 2.0 FSI Passat. The version was called "Highline" and it had many of the options (Sunroof, Alcantara-Leather seats, cruise control, heated seats, automatic wipers and so on). I think it was 32.000 Euros which at the time. Probably half what this one starts from. I can see no justification for that as it's the same market segment.
We must take into account that Euro (as well as pounds and other currencies) in 2004 was more valuable than now... Back in 2002 my dad bought a 206 for 40000 zł, now it's hard to find a compact car for less than 80K. But still, EVs are relatively expensive compared to their ICE equivalents.
EUR32000 in 2004 is roughly EUR50.0000 now if you account for inflation
Inflation is one thing, but buying power is whole another thing.
Prices went 100% up because of the inflation in like 10 years, but salaries for the same work places are maybe 10 or at best case 30% higher in the same time frame. And it's the same situation over whole Europe.
So, it's no wonder sale number at falling down...
Inflation is a thing you know. Adjusted for inflation the price of your uncles Passat actually comes pretty close to the ID7.
Man, this King Charles comparison aged very poorly.
I bought it for about 28250 USD in China yesterday
What an amazing price!!!!!!!
This is the price of competition. I wonder how much this sale cost VW?
I got one after test-driving just about everything with electric with enough range and space, and I can't agree with Matt on all points. I drive somewhat sporty, and this car's handling, steering feel and throttle response were vastly better than others, the X-Peng P7 came closest. And the Harman-Kardon stereo in the optional interior package (featured on this review car) is REALLY good. A Taycan is a lot better still, but much more expensive.
I would most certainly consider it!
Today I drive a Peugeot 508 GT that is equipped with a totally normal ICE. I love this car to pieces, and will probably never ever drive a car as nice as this, but the app that is supposed to keep track of my driving, where I am or have been, gas mileage, service intervals and whatever new FW that is suitable for my car - it is such an utter piece of crap that it makes me want to change brand altogether. Those who are running hybrids or full EV's are not the slightest bit more happy than me when it comes to how the app behaves. And when it comes to how we interact with our cars, the mobile app will get more and more important. It doesn't matter if you have the smoooooothest and best ride in the world if you have an app that is downright stupid, silly, erratic, malfunctioning or even worse. The application support is non-existent or totally incapable of fixing or giving you the slightest hint of things will get better soon.
So.... please, revisit some cars and check out how well they do with the ever more important apps that accompany them.
the safety systems defaulting to 'on' is a EU mandate (General Safety Regulation), annoying and effects all cars with safety systems
I was just going to comment that this could be a dealbreaker to me but if you say it’s an EU thing I’m afraid it’s not something we can avoid.
And it's stupid because it's not good for safety. Recently I was almost in an accident on a big junction with three lanes turning left. I always turn off the lane assist, but I forgot it this time.
The turn crosses a long broken line, which the car detected as a solid line, and the car effectively tried to push me into the car on the right...
17:13 i laughed at the glovebox joke. nice one
I love the ID7, I´m gonna get one at some point in the future. Totally hate the Model 3 of my brother
Guessing he hasn’t the 2024 Model 3?
@@badhairday_247😂
Here's a tip for one pedal driving, don't lift your foot right off the accelerator just part way, it's easy really
I look forward to your review of the refreshed ID3!
Another great video. Just need to win the lottery to own on lol.
Comes with the classic VAG electrical problems within 18 months too no doubt
well he cannot pronounce any word ending 'ing' and instead says ' ink '..dunno why it triggers me!
Is it my computer or is anyone else experiencing popping sounds when Mat talks?
not here
19:24 The turning Circle is 10.9 Meters.
A quick google search can tell you as much.
As an owner of the car it feels incredibly maneuverable to drive for its size. Had a Arteon before, it compares in no way whatsoever when it comes to in town driving.
I dont mind that its an EV, but its ugly on the outside and the interior is too simple. Its like entering an empty room... Horrible Tesla trend...
Btw isnt it to replace the Arteon? Like.. it looks nothing like the Passat :\
How is a Passat replacement 50 GRAND!!!!!?????? Car prices are ridiculous
😅 What do you think how expensive a similar equipped Passat is?
For less money (e.g 40 grand) you get only 150bhp , 16" wheels and not much more.
@@schaerfentiefe1967 still remember the video of the VW boss angry that the Hyundai was making better cars
That blue piping on the interior looks aftermarket stuff from Halfords.
I guess they think you need more remimders that you're in an ev. Good these IDs are ugly 😢
The point of DCC is to reduce body roll, especially in hard accelerations and braking. The difference to non-DCC car is significant.
I think the acoustics in the cabin are also an important point, we are now going to hear more wind and road noise, so it will be good to see how the traditional car makers handle this vs the new electric manufacturers.
the road noise is interesting. In Autogeful's review, it was basically silent. All you heard was the rain on the windscreen.
Autogefuhl doesn't hear noises German cars make.
Probably because Thomas doesn’t shut up. All of his reviews could be 90% shorter and still be able to review the car effectively.
Autogeful is biased with his reviews. He sounds like German marketing machine. can't believe people give af about how many colours the led the screen changes
I wonder if the rain lubricates the tarmac and tire interface to remove that tire noise.. whatever sound's left is drowned out by the sound of the rain on the windows
The clue is in the name of the channel - it sounds suspiciously German to me - Ja!
You want to watch the review but then you remember there is actually nothing to see
3 days and the intro didn't aged well...
the drive assists turning back not saving when you turn the car off is a deal breaker
Good analysis about the advantage VW had with its powertrain. Compare with KIA & Hyundai where almost the opposite was true but now the roles are swapped with the Hyundai 800v architecture 240kW charging V2L and all the gadget options putting the VW in the shade. It's also deadly dull, grandads will love it.
Still waiting for an affordable big ev station wagon. A6 Avant will be for sure not affordable :D
Al EVs with long range is not affordable 😂😂. The price on battery is almost same is on new car 😂😂
Get mercedes buddy...
@@joe125ful when Mercedes was affordable car? :D btw do they have station wagon EV?
@@wfm125m Describe affrodabel first.
Iam sure they make E Class wagon too soon.
@@nedialkosimonov3893 Tesla battery cost 10k