1890 Winchester Barrel Reline | Bringing a .22 short back to life

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  • @SavageMcBeastdog
    @SavageMcBeastdog 19 днів тому +30

    Excellent work sir. In a world of throw away crap now a days, it’s worth taking the time to save the cool stuff.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +5

      I could not agree more! Firearms are probably the last consumer products that people will get repaired if they need it. Plus, you can get in some trouble for just throwing it away. (depending on who your father is) Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!

  • @rjoetting7594
    @rjoetting7594 19 днів тому +8

    I have one myself, it's also 22 short.
    The wood is in great condition for what it is.
    The bluing is only about 20% and when I purchased it the rifling was pretty much non-existent.
    I had it re-lined and told the gunsmith to leave the exterior as is.
    (I like old, well-used guns)
    Function was spot on, and now it shoots great.
    It's one of my favorite 22s now, along with my #4 Remington rolling block 22lr.
    It's always great to see these pieces of history brought back to life.
    I'll add that even with no finnish on the exterior, there's no pitting.
    Eventually it will go to my grandson

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +3

      Mine is pretty well worn with minimal pitting, my 22WRF, 1890 was a completely different story! I hope to take my grandkids out with some of these old rifles someday, they're still a little too young right now. Thanks for watching!

  • @LoritaLattin
    @LoritaLattin 14 днів тому +3

    The .22 short is a surprisingly meaningful round. Carried it on my trapline years ago and never felt the need for any more powerful ammo.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  14 днів тому

      There are some high velocity .22 shorts out there. It's such a fun round too!

  • @snappers_antique_firearms
    @snappers_antique_firearms 18 днів тому +5

    Great job. There is just something so special about watching old firearms come back to life.

  • @ArizonaGhostriders
    @ArizonaGhostriders 19 днів тому +8

    What fun that gun is!! Great work on the liner. It lives to fire another day...

  • @rquest3059
    @rquest3059 19 днів тому +4

    Excellent job. There's no greater feeling than being able to bring an antique firearm back to life.

  • @squiblift2019
    @squiblift2019 2 дні тому

    As someone who fixes stuff I found the process for restoring the barrel interesting. Thanx for making the video.

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 19 днів тому +6

    Well, I for one, am glad you did video this one,... I've heard about re-lining a barrel before, but never watched it being done.
    Thank you for taking the time as it is an interesting process and video work is appreciated.
    Good Health ad Contentment throughout 2025

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +2

      I'm glad you enjoyed it. I know there's another relining project in my future, maybe I'll do a better job on the next video. Have a happy and prosperous New Year!

  • @pamartin
    @pamartin 18 днів тому +4

    Nice touch having the target cam inset over the Pic behind the bar. 🍸 Excellent refit! I imagine most of us were almost as pleased with the results as you. 👍

  • @Zionist_Eternal
    @Zionist_Eternal 18 днів тому +7

    My brother gifted me with an 1890 in short when I was 10. A box of 50 sold for 52¢ at Zemples hardware, and they were high. That was a long time ago and a different world. While riding a horse through Schuyler County, IL, a sheriff's deputy took exception to my possession of it and confiscated it. When we drove over to collect it, the response was, "What gun? We don't know what you're talking about."
    My hope has become, perhaps a deputy gifted it to his little brother? As I said, a different world.
    In any case, excellent video, excellent handicrafting.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +3

      People like that really suck. I hope there's a special place in the afterlife for him. I'm really sorry for your loss.

    • @Zionist_Eternal
      @Zionist_Eternal 18 днів тому +3

      Oh, I spoze when you know with the confidence of age and experience where you are heading on that great day, you can be pretty forgiving. I hold no ill will against the man and can only pray he figures it out beforehand.

    • @cbroz7492
      @cbroz7492 18 днів тому +2

      ..about what it cost in NJ in the early 60s..

  • @9mmARman
    @9mmARman 17 днів тому +1

    Best barrel lining tutorial I've seen. Thanks for the tutorial.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  17 днів тому

      Thank you! I really appreciate that! Next time I do one, I hope to show every step and in much more detail. Thanks for watching!

  • @jerseyred9554
    @jerseyred9554 19 днів тому +4

    Another fine example of your expertise brother

  • @JohnJones-oy3md
    @JohnJones-oy3md 19 днів тому +3

    I never imagined something like this could be done without a lathe. Fascinating what's possible with mainly hand tools and determination.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +3

      And patience!!! Lots and lots of patience!!! Thanks for watching! I would still like to get a nice "gunsmithing lathe" someday!

    • @G58
      @G58 17 днів тому

      @@SmallCaliberArmsReview
      If that’s all they are, you could easily just buy three $20 long series 8mm drill bits, and pay an engineering shop to grind a longer stepped lead onto them for a maximum of $10 per drill. Simple.
      That’s 90 Bucks.
      The reason you want a longer lead is obvious: to properly line-up and stabilise the drill bit before starting the reboring operation.
      You also VASTLY reduce the risk of breaking the end off the drill bit. I also didn’t see any oil being used. (Maybe I missed it) That’s essential.
      However, attempting to perform that job freehand, especially if you’re not experienced enough, is pure folly.
      Far better to use a wooden steady with a piece of 8mm inside diameter tubing, lined up in a second vice using a laser.
      Gunsmithing is a branch of engineering, and the good ones are good, but they are not engineers.
      Yes, I’m an engineer, and I’ve worked on just about everything made of metal, from aircraft engines and fuselages, to bikes, cars and guns.

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 16 днів тому

      Good luck finding any "engineering " (machine) shop that will do anything for a maximum of $10. They always have a set-up, or minimum charge.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому +1

      @@floridagunrat1625 You ain't kiddin'!!!

  • @carlswedberg8126
    @carlswedberg8126 19 днів тому +2

    Great video, my 1890 Winchester was made in 1901 and the barrel had been relined before I got it, really enjoyed watching your work.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +2

      There's a lot of them out there that just need a new liner to be in good shape again. Thanks for watching!

  • @OceanKing6725
    @OceanKing6725 19 днів тому +1

    Nice work bringing a old rifle back to life.

  • @joeybobbie1
    @joeybobbie1 7 днів тому

    Hi, I have the same exact Rifle, but it shoots Short, Long and Long Rifle. So it must be an early 1900s but looks exactly the same. I Love that little .22, it’s a Tack Driver. I Collect old Firearms from the 1800s as a Hobby, mostly because I admire the Machining they did. It’s like how did they do that perfect of Work with what they had back then. The Fit and Finish on the Old Firearms is better than a lot of the New ones. I enjoyed seeing how you relined the Barrel, and Cut the Chamber and the rest. Subscribed and look forward to seeing your other Videos.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  7 днів тому

      You may have a Model 62, Winchester saw a lot of value in a rifle that would handle all 3 of those rounds. I agree! They did all that work without computers or CNC milling machines. They also incorporated style into their work. Not just firearms, but sewing machines, kitchen equipment, hardware, everything. The manufacturing of pocket watches from that era really amaze me! I plan on doing more projects in the future, I hope you'll stick around for them!
      Thanks for the sub, the comment, and thanks for watching too!

  • @samostroff9341
    @samostroff9341 19 днів тому +2

    Excellent craftsmanship, very satisfying to watch. That little camera gave a pretty unique view. Great video!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +1

      I'd like to take that borescope with me every time I look at an old gun, it might actually save me some money! Thanks for watching!

    • @samostroff9341
      @samostroff9341 19 днів тому

      @SmallCaliberArmsReview it'd be a fun video to see that camera in an old rifle barrel. Lots of history in there I'm sure!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JCwBQEtmpUk/v-deo.html

  • @Eric_in_VA
    @Eric_in_VA 19 днів тому +2

    This was a very educational video for me. I've never seen this procedure done before. Thanks for sharing! Happy holidays to you and your family.

  • @chopsddy3
    @chopsddy3 18 днів тому +1

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe those were the “gallery” guns you would find at amusement parks and carnivals up into the 1950’s and early 1960’s. They were probably shot to heck by then and cheap.
    There’s something about the feel of that action that I really miss. It’s impossible to estimate how many rounds went through that specimen you have. I’m happy to see you restore its functionality.
    The fact that it’s still possible speaks well of its value.
    Sweet Rifle!👍

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +2

      You are correct. Many traveled the country with carnivals. Some of those can be found with mismatched serial numbers because on the rare occasion they were cleaned, they were all disassembled, cleaned, then reassembled. sometimes the parts would get mixed up. At least that's the stories I've heard.
      I agree, there's something about both slide action and lever action rifles that just feels right!
      Thanks for watching!

  • @georgesebastian6306
    @georgesebastian6306 18 днів тому +1

    The 1890 in 22 short is what brought me to your channel. This clip will end up in my keepers! By serial # mine was built in 1913 and the metal is all in excellent shape. Had to replace the stock & slide but she is a shooter. Yours has nice grouping! Keep up the great work!

  • @russhayes4882
    @russhayes4882 18 днів тому +1

    My absolute favorite rifle period !

  • @BillAlexander-cv6oj
    @BillAlexander-cv6oj 18 днів тому +1

    Really admire your work on restoring that beauty, My gunsmithing has been regulated to blueing and wood restoration never got the nerve to tackle a reline, or any substantial mechanical work...very nice !!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      That's how it starts! Next thing you know you're doing things you wouldn't do for a Klondike bar, just to buy more tools and projects! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!

  • @billyhaddock5540
    @billyhaddock5540 17 днів тому

    SCA, Thanks for taken the time to show and tell how to put-in a new 22cal barrel. ur 1890 winchester 22short rifle looks great.
    I had a Marlin 39A 22lr take-down rifle, fine rifle, butt like some people do sold-it. Now I just brought a New Tippmann M4-22lr Micro Elite pistol.
    Great little ar type with a 7" barrel. mag holds 25 rounds. payed $400 would like to buy 2 more mags and a lot of 22lr ammo. Happy new year.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  17 днів тому

      Thank you for watching! I hear Tippman makes some nice products. I hope you can find some extra mags! Happy New Year to you as well!

  • @randyfrantz7195
    @randyfrantz7195 19 днів тому +1

    I've done a few barrel relining jobs. I don't remember the drill bit being aggressive though. In fact, it seemed like the opposite was true. I did use cutting oil on both the drill bits and chamber reamers. Rather than lock tight or welding, I used epoxy. You did a really nice job. The 1890 is a very unique rifle and fun to shoot. Have fun with it!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +2

      I did use cutting fluid on the bit and barrel, you can see some of the wet chips hanging on the end of the barrel when pulling the bit out. Maybe not enough fluid? I don't know, but after re-shaping the tip, it cut great. After reading the technical data on the Loctite, I was pretty impressed with it. Thanks for watching!

  • @jeffreystroman2811
    @jeffreystroman2811 17 днів тому +2

    I had an 06, can confirm all three sizes in any sequence, had a follower mech that could be somewhat dangerous if unfamiliar, it is a gun after all

  • @jamesrobertson9597
    @jamesrobertson9597 14 днів тому

    Gallery gun for sure. That's why the barrel was shot out of it. Great job!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  14 днів тому

      It won't see as much use now, but it will receive a whole lot more love. Thanks for watching!

  • @davidbabin387
    @davidbabin387 18 днів тому +1

    Wow!!! What a Charm! Very fine work, and extremely great results. I purchased a Gallery Rifle, but it was made in the early 1900's. Fine shooting little rifle. I am just having trouble seeing the open sights. Great video, and very fine craftsmanship. Thanks for sharing. Have fun with your renovated Gallery Gun!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      Thank you! Yeah, my eyes aren't exactly what they used to be. I can still see fine past arms length, for now. The 1890 is one of my absolute favorites!

  • @stevezielinski9257
    @stevezielinski9257 19 днів тому +1

    Amazing job!! I’m sure it was quite the relief that the rifle worked after working on it.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +2

      I don't outwardly show a lot of emotion, but I was #$@%&* STOKED!!! LOL! Thanks for watching!

  • @paulsullivan9117
    @paulsullivan9117 17 днів тому

    Very fun to watch and learn... made something that now works, out of something that was just a wall hanger!! Cool!!!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  17 днів тому

      I like hanging guns on the wall but, I don't like the ones that are just wall hangers. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!

  • @larrynason8716
    @larrynason8716 14 днів тому +1

    That sure is a sweet little group! 👍👍

  • @REB-forever
    @REB-forever 19 днів тому +1

    It definitely groups good. Great job!

  • @ChrisMcLaughlin-l1v
    @ChrisMcLaughlin-l1v 6 днів тому

    I just finished a Mossberg 44 US (a). Did the barrel reline. I used JB Weld and did a reset crown with a 45 degree chamfer. I had to hand cut the dual extractors but that was no problem. The liner came with the chamber already cut so I did not have to buy a chambering tool. It is nice to be able to do your own work. Brandon Gun Works. Brandon, Florida.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  6 днів тому

      I have seen them with the pre-cut chambers. I've been a welder for 30 years, that's the reason I chose to weld the ends. It's not necessary, but it seems natural to me.
      I may be doing some larger caliber liners in the future but I've got a much bigger project ahead of any major gun projects.
      I grew up not too far from Brandon, Fl!

  • @RedProg
    @RedProg 19 днів тому +1

    Outstanding work and great grouping. Happy New Year

  • @josefornell2215
    @josefornell2215 10 днів тому

    HAPPY TO SEE YOU HAPPY, VERY GOOD.

  • @gregb3338
    @gregb3338 8 днів тому

    Respect from West Texas

  • @billgraham5609
    @billgraham5609 14 днів тому

    Never knew there were 22 liners. Thanks and nice rifle

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  14 днів тому

      They make them for nearly every caliber. When you get into the center fire liners, the price goes way up! Thanks for watching!

  • @sasquatch885
    @sasquatch885 19 днів тому

    You tackle some ambitious projects! Very nicely done again.👍🏻

  • @strshooter7399
    @strshooter7399 18 днів тому

    Wow! Great job! Very cool rifle! Seems very accurate (&) it functions just as it’s supposed to! Wow super job. Thanks for the video 👍😎

  • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
    @Gunners_Mate_Guns 17 днів тому

    Fascinating refurbishment on that old Winchester.
    You may already have thought of this, but if you haven't and for those of you haven't, a good way to avoid dry-firing and banging up your chamber and firing pin is to use one of the high quality mild steel snap caps for the last round in the magazine.
    Your firing pin will get appropriately cushioned, and those particular snap caps last quite a long time.
    I highly recommend the Steelworx snap caps, available for $14/dozen.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  17 днів тому +1

      I've been threatening to do that for a long time nowbut, for some reason I keep saying to myself "I'll just count the rounds". I usually forget! Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!

    • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
      @Gunners_Mate_Guns 16 днів тому

      @@SmallCaliberArmsReview I inherited my WWI veteran father-in-law's High-Standard Sport King .22 pistol that lacks last round bolt hold-open, so that's what motivated the snap caps.
      Works like a charm, and I don't have to count rounds fired.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому

      @@Gunners_Mate_Guns Nice!

  • @tomritter493
    @tomritter493 16 днів тому

    Nice job on the reline that will help lots of ppl i had a friend of mine relined a 22 to smoothbore

  • @terryschiller2625
    @terryschiller2625 19 днів тому

    Hi Richard, I tip my hat to you Sir. Awesome job on that gallery gun! 🤠🇺🇲

  • @robfahnestock6930
    @robfahnestock6930 16 днів тому

    Loved the video and your work. Thank you!

  • @Bob-bb3ur
    @Bob-bb3ur 19 днів тому

    What a nice old rifle

  • @ironwood4645
    @ironwood4645 18 днів тому +1

    Nice, it made me want to get mine out. All though mine was from the early 1950's.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      It probably never had black powder round ran through it. Your barrel is probably fine. I hope you get to get it out and enjoy it soon! Thanks for watching!

  • @kbjerke
    @kbjerke 19 днів тому +1

    I was considering relining an old Stevens Favorite I have; it *looks* really nice on the outside, but the barrel is toast. (Black powder!!)
    It seems that it wouldn't be economically feasible for me to perform this restoration, so it'll remain a "wall hanger."
    Thank you for the demonstration!! And of course, Happy New Year!!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +2

      The liners themselves are pretty inexpensive, the tools are where they get ya! I'm sure I'll do more in the future so I don't mind investing in the tools. Thanks for watching!

  • @rodulphmontejarden2210
    @rodulphmontejarden2210 19 днів тому +1

    Very nice work. Thank you for sharing.

  • @glabdo5000
    @glabdo5000 8 днів тому

    Excellent video!!

  • @A.R.American1
    @A.R.American1 18 днів тому

    I have done a couple barrel liners. 1st was a 10mm and 2 38-357 calibers. I did it on my lathe. That small of a caliber and with a drill I am impressed. Great job again I'm impressed great video.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      I still need to get a lathe but that's a little way down the road. Thanks for watching A.R.!

    • @A.R.American1
      @A.R.American1 18 днів тому +1

      @SmallCaliberArmsReview you are one of my favorites bud dont always comment but try to watch them all

  • @jeremybrownfield1025
    @jeremybrownfield1025 11 днів тому

    Great job

  • @geraldtakala1721
    @geraldtakala1721 18 днів тому

    Nice work and good grouping

  • @7thsignthenorthcoast146
    @7thsignthenorthcoast146 18 днів тому +1

    Nice work. I’d be nervous as hell to try to do that work

  • @catshark12
    @catshark12 19 днів тому +1

    Awesome work!

  • @davidfischer5945
    @davidfischer5945 18 днів тому +1

    Thank you for putting up the video. I have an old Stevens bolt action single shot that has an eventual date with a liner. I’m surprised you apparently didn’t have to spread on thread cutting oil frequently.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      I did. I would drill about 1/2", extract the drill, brush the chips, reapply oil and do it again. I probably should have used much more oil than I did though. It's tough to do this sort of thing with a camera on a tripod right where you're trying to work. Thanks for watching!

    • @davidfischer5945
      @davidfischer5945 18 днів тому

      @ Thanks for your answer. I wondered if you weren’t oiling the drill more and just not showing it.
      I didn’t want to sound like a critic of you, especially when you are doing a job I’ve never done myself, but I used to work in a shop where we made light coil springs and formed parts from wire and light flat steel. The foremen were always about keeping the material feed reels lubed so as to minimize wear on the forming tooling.
      I also agree with you that Aguila ammunition is accurate and dependable, although the powder gives off a pungent, sour smell.
      Now get to the range and have fun with your Winchester pump!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому

      @@davidfischer5945 For the next one, I'm thinking of setting up an oiler sort of like an IV at a hospital. The small amount I was putting on the bit, might not have been enough to do a lot of good. I didn't overheat anything, just maybe under lubricated.

    • @davidfischer5945
      @davidfischer5945 17 днів тому +1

      @ One of my arcane interests is old Brown & Sharpe screw machines. I love to watch them generate parts, all tooling timed by cams, not a computer in sight. (Many videos of them at work here on UA-cam). They have those hoses and nozzles that dispense mineral based cutting lubricants on the parts. Maybe you can find or make something along those lines. Thanks again for the education and video!

  • @jamesking4560
    @jamesking4560 18 днів тому

    Great group!

  • @cbroz7492
    @cbroz7492 18 днів тому +2

    ..some 60 to 65 years ago 22 short was ubiquitous..I used'ta go with my dad after Sunday mass, to the local department store to buy a few boxes of it when it was on sale..you can't find the stuff a anymore..he gave me a Marlin 81c on the night I graduated from 8th grade in June 1963...

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      It shows up every now and then. I like to grab a few boxes when I see it. It's such a fun round. That's a pretty nice gift! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!

  • @Squib1911
    @Squib1911 2 дні тому

    Looks like it runs good.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  2 дні тому +1

      Just what it needed, 'cause it didn't run at all before! Thanks for watching Squib!

  • @johnnyholland8765
    @johnnyholland8765 15 днів тому +1

    I have done both rim fire and center fire liners. Too many to say but I use a lathe and yes those bits are stupidly expensive so I started making my own. I use standard jobber length (4 inch long) cobalt bits and grind my own pilots. I then silver solder a 16 inch piece of .312 drill rod thus making a liner drill. Drill slowly with a constant in feed rate. Drill about two inches then clean out chips. Takes a little while but it gets the job done. The reason I think your pilots broke is drilling too fast and I didn't see you use any oil. Yes they will grab on you as those old Winchester barrels are soft and give little resistance. As heat builds up the drill will expand in the hole and try and seize up. Everything else you did was pretty much text book for installing a liner. I use Locktight 262 compound and I have never had one move. Enjoy your little rifle. They are a lot of fun to shoot as I have had a few of them over the years.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  15 днів тому

      I wish I had a lathe, It would have made feeding it a little easier. It grabs! I did use oil, maybe not enough as I only put a little bit on the cutting edge after clearing chips. I plan on doing a couple more pretty soon but I have a few things to get done first. Thanks for watching!

  • @JG-six-gun
    @JG-six-gun 19 днів тому +2

    Great video thanks!

  • @johnpalmer7272
    @johnpalmer7272 13 днів тому

    Neeter than heck. Have1873 made in 1886 in 32-20 sleeved. Shoots like a charm. Was my grandfather's

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  13 днів тому

      I have an 1873 made in 1906 in 32-20 that is probably going to need sleeved. I have not even shot it yet!! Thanks for watching!

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo7647 14 днів тому

    Great job I’ve Got 2 of These Rifles one Needs a Liner Like Yours 😀😇

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  14 днів тому +1

      Just know that it is possible to do the work yourself. Thanks for watching!

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak5554 16 днів тому

    Noting an excellent job done. I do find a bunch of 1890 barrels for sale (Homestead Parts, Ebay, etc.) and I would balance the value of my time and cost of parts against simply buying a replacement barrel and fitting it.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому +2

      As a hobbyist, I enjoy it no matter the cost. I've looked at barrels on ebay, I've seen some with more damage than what mine originally had. I've seen a couple that had the magazine tube hangers driven out instead of twisted. Some that had a crescent wrench placed on the barrel to remove it. Some that needed a reline job done anyway. The whole reason I got started in making holsters, is because I didn't want to pay $1200 for a holster I fell in love with, instead I spent thousands of dollars on tools and materials and now have many holsters I love. Thanks for watching!

  • @Bob-bb3ur
    @Bob-bb3ur 14 днів тому

    You saved another one good job I just sent you some photos again

  • @arthurbradshaw7035
    @arthurbradshaw7035 18 днів тому

    Interesting video, you did a great job 👍👍🍀

  • @Anger-i6n
    @Anger-i6n 16 днів тому

    I love the old Gallery Winchester rifles. Our family had one that belonged to my Grandfather and my older brother inherited it. I had an old one that started to blow the back end of the brass into my face so I turned the rifle into a pump action handgun in the 70''s for a wall hanger . It still held 6 shots and functioned perfectly with the look of a Civil War era Colt. I welded the chamber up so no one could fire it. I gave the pistol to my brother to hang on the wall beside our Grand Dads' rifle. When my brother passed away my sister in law turned them over to the police rather than give them to my or my other brother. What a piece of work she is .

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому +1

      WOW! What a horrific ending! I would say thanks for the comment, but now I'm going to have nightmares!!! Thanks for watching!

  • @mikereinhardt4807
    @mikereinhardt4807 16 днів тому

    Great job. Maybe a light touch with the welder on those deep nicks on the muzzle followed by light filling and sanding before finishing up with the muzzle tool would have eliminated them. Just my opinion (worth everything it cost you) as I know more about welding then I do gunsmithing. Hope you had a Merry Christmas and all the best in the New Year...

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  15 днів тому

      I really didn't even notice the nicks until I zoomed in on them with the borescope. It REALLY magnifies things! With the naked eye, they're tough to see. Same here, I've been welding for 30 years, I'm just a hobbyist "gunsmith". Thanks for watching!

  • @gvet47
    @gvet47 18 днів тому +2

    The welding seems to be overkill for 22 short. Some barrel liners can be purchased already with the chamber cut.
    22 short seems to be harder to find and will cost more than 22LR..

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому

      Maybe, but that's the way I chose to do it. I haven't had an issue finding .22 short. Thanks for watching!

  • @leviwoodring6101
    @leviwoodring6101 18 днів тому +1

    My Grandpa has one of them he had the chamber cut and mag tube modified to run .22 LR

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому

      I love .22 short, so I decided to keep it original. Thanks for watching!

    • @rogermorrill4700
      @rogermorrill4700 17 днів тому +2

      The 22 short and long barrel twist was 1 in 20 , lr was 1 / 16 and WRF was 1 in 14

  • @michaelsereg2197
    @michaelsereg2197 19 днів тому +1

    Hand chamber reaming with the barrel vertical will reduce the chattering. Horizontal reaming cuts more off of chamber bottom. Everything else was correct standard practices. I silver solder the ends rather than welding. Both work if using a heat sink. Nice workand Good job.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому

      Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the next reline! There will be others too! Thanks for watching!

  • @whspioneer89
    @whspioneer89 19 днів тому +1

    Do you have a video detailing your saloon? How you built it etc

  • @copperhead2534
    @copperhead2534 10 днів тому

    Try using "Rapid Tap" cutting paste when drilling or facing.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  10 днів тому

      I used cutting oil, probably just not enough. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!

  • @ghostmantagshome-er6pb
    @ghostmantagshome-er6pb 18 днів тому +1

    Learned to shoot with one of those and remember carrying a pen knife to pull out casings. I though probably had the wrong ammo.

  • @hondakar
    @hondakar 19 днів тому +1

    Great content, really interesting👍

  • @Michigander79
    @Michigander79 13 днів тому

    I have the same rifle, I dentical. And my barrel is severely worn out. Thanks for the info

  • @MrGsteele
    @MrGsteele 11 днів тому

    Wait - $99 for the bit, PLUS the liner, PLUS the work - for a single rifle, compared to buying a new barrel? Edit: 4 minutes in - just noticed it was an octagonal barrel. So that's more $ to replace the barrel. Still, seems like a lot of work to do. On the other hand, it's what we do - because we love doing the work. I will say that it was interesting watching the process that you followed. Thank you for the informative presentation.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  11 днів тому

      Where can you even get a new barrel with all the Winchester markings, sight grooves, mag tube hanger grooves, already threaded for my receiver and with the exact matching finish? I have never seen ready-to-go barrels for these old rifles and the old ones that people are selling, are just as bad or even worse than mine. I know, I looked for a practice barrel. They were also was more expensive than what I have in my barrel.
      A liner is about 30 bucks. I don't count the price of the tools because I will use them more than once. (even the broken drill bit) The time I have invested in it would have been used on another hobby, so why not this one?
      Thanks for watching!

  • @billsmith8739
    @billsmith8739 18 днів тому +1

    Good job...I think why both drill bits broke was you was drilling by which with made the drill bit wander some. You might to want invest in small lathe.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      The bits I used were made for using in a hand drill. It was the guide piece that broke off. I would still love to get a nice lathe someday. Thanks for watching!

  • @franzputsch254
    @franzputsch254 18 днів тому +3

    The welding was unnecessary. You probably did more harm than good. For those of you thinking of doing this to your firearm, the Loctite is MORE than strong enough to contain the pressures of a .22 short.

  • @herbiewolfe1424
    @herbiewolfe1424 12 днів тому

    Looks great. I also noticed the holsters in the background. Especially the left draw colt pistol. Do you also make these.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  12 днів тому

      Yes, I have several videos of holster projects. I try to do holsters from movies and tv shows. Be careful, I get a little talkative in those videos! Lol. Thanks for watching!

  • @patrickdingman6934
    @patrickdingman6934 18 днів тому +1

    Very informative I have a gallery gun that has the same issues with extraction. I'll save this for reference.
    What's fermenting? (Airlocks)😊

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому +1

      Wine! I made a small batch from my first harvest of grapes this year. Thanks for watching!

  • @brianveitenheimer4492
    @brianveitenheimer4492 11 днів тому

    I have a 1906 with the same issue. I was thinking of machining a press in chamber insert instead of a complete reline. I think the barrel liner is probably less work. The rifle is still tack driver but won’t extract due to badly corroded chamber.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  11 днів тому

      It's amazing how well some of them will shoot with pretty bad rifling. I think a whole new liner would be best, it'll give your 1906 a fresh start. Good luck and thanks for watching!

  • @ronklug6395
    @ronklug6395 19 днів тому +1

    I am impressed excellent job. Were did you buy the liners and tools?

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +3

      It was a mixture of Brownell's and Midway USA. Some stuff will be in stock at one place but not the other. Thanks for watching!

    • @ronklug6395
      @ronklug6395 18 днів тому +1

      @@SmallCaliberArmsReviewthank you very much.

  • @sidekickbob7227
    @sidekickbob7227 12 днів тому

    The 6 or 9mm Flobert single shots, are the original gallery/saloon guns.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  12 днів тому

      I have a .22 Flobert. Talk about hard-to-find ammo!!! Thanks for watching!

    • @sidekickbob7227
      @sidekickbob7227 12 днів тому

      @SmallCaliberArmsReview They still make them in europe. RWS produces them for sure.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  12 днів тому +1

      @@sidekickbob7227 Yes. I have found them here from time to time. I grab some when I see them too.

  • @Bob-bb3ur
    @Bob-bb3ur 19 днів тому +2

    My wife and I were watching this video and she noticed you had an Iver Johnson book over on the Shelf she has an Iver Johnson 22 revolver top break 4 inch barrel with Mother of Pearl grips do you know how to date it by the serial number? Also, one of our old rifles is Steven Savage Model 87a old click clack we just love that one

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +3

      I had to buy the book to date my Iver Johnson Safety Hammerless. You cant go by the serial number alone. (which is why I needed the book!) If you can send me several good pictures of it, I'll see what I can do. All of the writing and especially the serial number under the left side grip. smallcaliberarmsreview@gmail.com

  • @franktirelli
    @franktirelli 14 днів тому

    How bad was the original bore? Do you have a bore camera video of it? Just trying to get a reference of when a new liner becomes necessary.
    Great video!

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  14 днів тому +1

      I did not video any of this rifle, but my 1890, .22WRF was just as bad but with a good chamber. Here is a video of it: ua-cam.com/video/JCwBQEtmpUk/v-deo.html

  • @herbiewolfe1424
    @herbiewolfe1424 11 днів тому

    Nice to know, just thinking about doing a holster or two. Do you make your own patterns?

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  11 днів тому

      Most of them I do. I have bought a couple from Will Ghormley, he is an awesome holster maker. Thanks for watching!

  • @KathrynLiz1
    @KathrynLiz1 16 днів тому

    You really didn't need the weld...
    I have a re=line coming up for a 36 calibre cap'n'ball revolver, and for that I have to make the liner, which means making the rifling button too... 🙂

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому

      I didn't "Need" the weld, but having been a welder for 30 years now, I wanted to weld it.

  • @UH60crew1
    @UH60crew1 8 днів тому

    I have an Winchester1890 chambered in short only that I inherited from my grandfather. He bought it the first year he married my grandmother in 1911. The gun is in pretty good shape for its age all original. It helped to provide food for them that first year. The big problem is finding bullets for it. No outlets or gun shops carry them. I do have one box of them. Thanks for the informative video.
    Barrie

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  8 днів тому

      I've heard a lot of people say that lately. I visited 2 different stores in the last couple days, they both had shorts on the shelves. My local WallyWorld even had the CB shorts.

  • @josephbolz4550
    @josephbolz4550 16 днів тому

    I want to know how you unscrewed that barrel by hand. That piloted drill from Brownells didn't make it a third of the way through a winchester 77 barrel with cutting oil.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  15 днів тому

      UA-cam frowns on showing how to disassemble firearms for anything other than normal maintenance, so I didn't show that part. I actually clamped it in a large vice with aluminum padded jaws and used a very large, aluminum padded wrench to turn the receiver off. Surprisingly, it took very little effort to break loose. Both of my bits broke fairly quickly, after I sharpened the one, I completed drilling both sides. Thanks for watching!

  • @larrynason8716
    @larrynason8716 14 днів тому

    A have a Winchester takedown, pump, "gallery gun" that shoots .22 shorts only. Off hand, I don't recall the model, or the year of manufacture. Cool little rifle though.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  14 днів тому +1

      It's either a 1890 or an early 1906 model. In 1908 they chambered the Model 1906 to chamber shorts, longs, and long rifles. Enjoy that old rifle! Thanks for watching!

  • @pauljones639
    @pauljones639 19 днів тому +1

    I have a solid frame 1890 in .22 Long that is in very poor condition. Mechanically its fine. but someone put black cerakote on it, the extractor is missing and the barrel is super pitted.
    Id love to get it relined and converted to .22 long rifle. It would be a great suppressor host too. If I can find iron sights tall enough to see over my Ruger .22 suppressor

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +1

      I would LOVE to have that rifle!!! Converting it to LR is a little more involved that just cutting a new chamber in these rifles. The lifters are cut to different lengths to allow for the different rounds. The 62A was designed to handle all 3 rounds.

    • @rogermorrill4700
      @rogermorrill4700 18 днів тому +1

      Have a 22WRF re- barreled to22 lr, made a brass plug for the lifter so lr would work. Also have a WRF with pitted bore , reamed the chamber for WRFM and bored the lifter, jacked ammo shoots minute of coyote 75 to 100 yds. It was my dads in the 30s went through 3 or more uncles before I got it back, just a keepsake.

    • @monroeautobody1971
      @monroeautobody1971 18 днів тому

      The solid frame 1890 was only made for 2 years, very rare leave it original refining or other modifications will only reduce the value.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  17 днів тому +2

      I started to cry a little when I read that. It is his rifle though.

    • @pauljones639
      @pauljones639 16 днів тому +1

      @@monroeautobody1971 As it sets, its not worth much as a collectors item.
      rebuilding it as a good shooter is probably best

  • @carlbrooks68
    @carlbrooks68 12 днів тому

    Great Work, You did great. You should Be super Pleased....

  • @johngaltman
    @johngaltman 18 днів тому

    No cutting oil for the drilling? Would that be part of why the bits broke?

    • @richardbentoski867
      @richardbentoski867 18 днів тому +1

      I did use cutting fluid. You can see some of the oily chips stuck to the end of the barrel when I pull the bit out. Maybe I didn't use enough? I'm not sure. Thanks for watching!

    • @johngaltman
      @johngaltman 18 днів тому

      @@richardbentoski867 Ya, I generally have cutting fluid dripping off. Much like you see with a pipe threading machine, very generous with the oil.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  18 днів тому

      I think next time, I may have to set up some sort of "IV" like contraption to give me a steady supply.

  • @woodrowbrimm2805
    @woodrowbrimm2805 13 днів тому

    I'm just curios. It's almost impossible to find .22 Shorts so why not just go with .22 Long Rifle when you Re-line the barrel ?

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  13 днів тому

      The rifle was made to fire shorts only. Plus, I have no problem finding shorts!

  • @kennylavay8492
    @kennylavay8492 7 днів тому

    nice

  • @Vasbyt6540
    @Vasbyt6540 17 днів тому

    Awsome

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek6582 16 днів тому

    Do they make those liners with a smooth bore? I know the 18” legality, which is ridiculous but that’s where we’re at. My dad likes to shoot carpenter bees with .22 shot lol, I’d like to do a mini shotgun job but wasn’t finding a smooth bore liner, thanks for any advice

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому

      I have not seen any smooth bore liners. I always wanted to make a working, scale model side by side shotgun using .22 shot shells for the cartridges. Thanks for watching!

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 16 днів тому +1

      You might try looking for a used Marlin garden gun. They were factory made smoothbore ,22lr for shooting shot shells.

    • @shanek6582
      @shanek6582 16 днів тому

      I’ve seen the garden guns, just wanted a new project. Also, I’ve always wanted to build an exact half scale Henry rifle in .22 short since the originals were .44 rimfire. It scales so perfectly that I can’t believe some company hasn’t already mass produced it! I’m sure I’d have to SBR it unless 16” wouldn’t look too long, but did they ever make a Henry (without forend wood) with anywhere close to a 32” barrel?

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  15 днів тому

      @@shanek6582 Yo know, they make a Mini Mosin! It's a scaled down version of the 91-30 Mosin Nagant rifle. Sadly it's a single shot I believe.....and expensive for a single shot .22. I don't see why they couldn't make a scale Mini Henry.

  • @jimmyghersi
    @jimmyghersi 9 днів тому

    Great job, I inherited a Winchester Model 62
    22 S L or LR
    The barrel is completely worn out.
    Would like to the same, but don’t have the welding skills

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  9 днів тому

      It doesn't have to be welded, many people just use the loctite, acraglass or some sort of epoxy to glue the barrel in. I haven't heard of anyone losing a liner yet. I've been a welder for 30+ years now, and I didn't want to be able to see a seam, so I welded it.
      Good luck with your 62 and thanks for watching!

    • @jimmyghersi
      @jimmyghersi 9 днів тому +1

      @
      Thank you for the tip, I watched another gentleman doing it and he didn’t weld it

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  9 днів тому

      @@jimmyghersi You're welcome!

  • @hilltopper600
    @hilltopper600 12 днів тому

    would cutting oil help

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  12 днів тому

      I did use some, but apparently not enough. I only applied a small amount to the cutting surfaces of the bit. The next time, I'll use much more. Thanks for watching!

  • @RuneCarverLLC
    @RuneCarverLLC 19 днів тому +1

    Q Did you use cutting oil (or anything with lubricity) when you were drilling out the barrel?
    ...
    I ask this because it looks like you cut it dry, and this will often snap the bit and the guide from friction and heat.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому +2

      Yes, that's one of the reasons I only showed a small part of the drilling process. I would drill about a half inch, pull it out, clean the chips, re-oil the cutting surface and do it again. The camera just kept getting in the way. The shots I did show, where all the chips were falling out, was the last inch or so and I was just "going for it". I would have loved to had cutting fluid running through the barrel as I was drilling, and in the future that may change. Thanks for watching!

    • @RuneCarverLLC
      @RuneCarverLLC 19 днів тому

      @
      Yup, I figured you did that but thought it might be worth asking and maybe it will help someone else.
      It's surprising to see the majority of youtube videos where you see the guy try to drill a 1" hole in 3/4" harden steel with no oil and no tap and no step, and the damn thing is just smoking and turning blue and he's cussing it out like it's the drill bits fault… These folks should never have power tools! 😳😬😵‍💫🤔🙈🙈🙈
      You do a great service to the community, and thank you again for all your wonderful videos. 👍👍👍

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  19 днів тому

      @@RuneCarverLLC When I was cutting the chamber, you'll see me make a couple turns, pull it back and brush the chips away with the oily chip brush I was using. Since I was turning it by hand and it's a short tool, it was a lot easier to have the camera up close. I really need a bigger shop to film things like this. I'd also like to get a nice size lathe too!

  • @joelpreisser2527
    @joelpreisser2527 16 днів тому

    How come you don't use cutting fluid?😊

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  16 днів тому +1

      I did, I just applied a small amount to the tip of the bit after clearing the chips. It probably wasn't enough though. Next time I'll use copious amounts. Thanks for watching!

    • @brianveitenheimer4492
      @brianveitenheimer4492 11 днів тому

      Rapid Tap is my go to and don’t be stingy with it.

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  11 днів тому

      @@brianveitenheimer4492 Next one!

  • @ronalddavis
    @ronalddavis 9 днів тому

    the smell is the eley type priming compound that aquila uses. gives me a headache

    • @SmallCaliberArmsReview
      @SmallCaliberArmsReview  9 днів тому

      I kind of like it, but then I kind of like the smell of skunk too! Thanks for watching!