Even em recognized pac as a genius rapper, the reason why most people consider 2pac the best because when pac existed there was no enough instrument and technology to make songs he did what he could, consider if he still alive
The answer is. That tupac, Biggie and Em are just so good at rapping that people always say that one of these people are the greatest. Just like i think Tupac is the goat
It's very simple for a fan to answer that question. The best rapper, is the rapper each fan likes listening to in whatever track they are featured.!!! Especially even following their lyrics.
#s 4 and 5 could really be combined into two words: Generational Differences. Someone like me, born in 1969 (and knows of a time before rap) is going to have a different mindset over someone born in 1999. I was there for "Rapper's Delight", "The Message", LL, Rakim, Schooly D, Afrika Bambatta, Run-DMC, EPMD et al. (as well as -- *sigh -- the Fat Boys, the Breakin' movies, and - brrrrr! -- "Rappin Rodney") I experienced all of it first hand. To a kid today, Wiz Khalifa is an "old head" so of course we're going to have differences of opinions over stuff.
What's the point of looking for a goat if we have a RapGod? #Eminem #RapGod Eminem does all those styles, eminem brought in new cultures to hip-hop, and has the world terrified to beef with him.
Fuck outta here tupacs the goat of the west, cube had to wait for pac to go to jail for him to act like hes repping the west when he dropped his song "bow down" but yet he was hesitant to represent the west when tupac was out, so it seems to me cube was bow dowing to pac prior to when he went to jail.
So you're basucally saying with one of your points that there are many new fans, from other genres, who don't know a lot about the history of rap, then I look in your comment section and there are only two GOAT contender's. Lmao 😂😂😂
There's an Shady lyrical scheme and artistic meme it's not even close. I love PAC, Jay, Biggie, Cube, Redman, Method man, Wu and LOX. But Em could rap it all up neatly with a pen, cadence, schematically take out any foe while giving homage to all that came before.
So #eminem is Goat His career is long and succefull He is lyrically beast He is destroying his opponent in beef to He is not changing is his rap for other genre And also he has most Grammy and sales too
So you put beef and grammy is your best arguments nas is better lyrically nas is the better storytelller his flow is great and he had the greatest album of all time in illmatic his career is just as long maybe a bit better. Ok now for tupac his energy bring heart his lyrics have everything to do with his topic and he excels in his flow Now for biggie his flow is the greatest to lay in the game he got the rymeing skill which tips you over he got the mist greatest song of all time big papa
Any rapper who rhymes with mis-pelled, un-understood, or changed pronounced words??? (They took Eddie Murphy's Joke about "James Brown Lyrics" too a Whole other retarded level,! Degrading and depreciating the whole SONG! It just Sucks to "Me". To me Old School rappers told true stories, From Dance Raps, to Gangster Raps, More people related to the story cause alot of us went thru similar times in life. A time when fellas could get-um up with hands and be friends tomorrow. And women were more respected. These new age Mumble Rappers" can hardly rhyme with the English Language much less appreciate or respect the grind and the female race.Although women have some to do with themselves being degraded in society by allowing themselves to stay with unfaithful, physical and verbal abuse by the men they stood by, "Most" new age rap has the same 3 subjects " Bling Bling" (No appreciation or respect for the monetary blessings they recieved) "Sex with Bitches" (Further lowing the position of women as Toys or Tricks) and CURRENT RICH wasteful lifestyle (Something a large percentage of Hip Hop lovers cannot relate to) thus forgetting the song and the words (if you can say and understand them all) or even what the song was about! Most of us wont even remember the song in say 5 years from its Popularity cause we couldn't relate to it! Today is all about BEATS, If the song has a great beat? Its remembered for that. Not for the Lyrical content itself. They are songs without meaning. Sooo saying all that?? I tend to lean toward old school rappers who spoke about several issues and the ones that spoke English. Had Bomb Beats AND Lyrics that made you remember a certain time in your life! With the exception of today"s Conscious Content rappers, learning the words of mumble rap songs today is like learning and trying to understand and interpret what Brothers Johnson was trying to say on "Strawberry Letter 22!!! Tupac, Ice Cube, Eminen, (Biggy was good , but wasent around long enough), LL Cool Jay, Heavy Dee, ranks up there with me.
At the end of the day their is no 1 🐐 in rap/Hip-hop it's all opinion everybody has different taste in rap music my only thing is if your going to say so and so is the greatest rapper of all time give good reasons dont just say this rapper is the goat just because you like him or her nah give actual reasons like for example they have a great flow or they are good lyrically or they are a great songwriter or they put alot of pain and passion in their music give actual reasons or I'm not going to you seriously.
I hate to disagree with KRS, but the Five Elements have been dormant for decades now...when's the last time you saw any put on a show where there was breaking, scratching, or deejaying? And dont' even get me started on knowledge, which vanished around 1995. Hell, we don't even have hype-men anymore!!
I don’t believe it’s as complex as you are making it. I believe most people who listen to rap, knows very little about it’s complexity or its history. People just enjoy it. Therefore I believe that one can truly make an argument solely on rap talent only.
Eminem is King of Rap he’s the G.O.A.T and has always been.Tupac Would be right up there to if he hadn’t been cut short of his career he just might be king of rap.🤜🏻👌🏾☝️👇🏻🖖🏻✌️
I think it's awesome that Hip Hop will likely never reach a consensus! (Unless everyone just wants to go ahead and back Eminem now... 🤓) All kidding aside, what's so great about being a part of a genre in which a GOAT is so easily identifiable? Doesn't the fact that just being able to reach an easy consensus like in the genres mention say something about the diversity of those genres? Don't get me wrong. I love all types of music, but one of the things I love about Hip Hop is that it's all so different. It's a genre that always has something to say, and everyone has something to identify with because it try reflects the human experience!
Today's generation doesnt have respect for anything. But they think they deserve respect in return. I hate the term "oldhead", but it's better than this crap.
Tupac Shakur GOAT. Back in an era when hip hop was invading the suburbs beating up pop, rock, and country. Since their deaths hip hop has never reached that pinnacle again. So how can these post 96/97 rappers be Goats? I’m just sayin
Eminem is my goat however I like biggie , and redman, Now before some hater talks shit And brings up the typical bullshit and say only white people consider eminem as the goat I'm black and have been a fan since day one.
Is major problem is being white, the hip hop comunity are just trying to find a black guy as a substitute, yes he has many flaws, is voice is a little bit anoying at times, his albuns and works are a litlle overrated, but the goat is abou being the greatest, and being greatest is about domination and carrer longetivy, and on that, he sold the most rap albuns, he is still being talked to this very day, every time peopke talk about hip hop, even if it has nothing to do with em, some how he always comes in the conversation, and he is not a sell out, he is a true mc, pays respect to those in the pass and the active rappers, and on top when comes to beef only a true professional batlle rapper can defeat him. He is the king of hip hop, and that doesn' t necessarally have to be about being the best to ever do it, remenber le bron is a player then mj, prince is a better artist compared to michael jackson, so its not about being the best, is about acomplashiments and the domination of the time the artist had
@@pedrodepacas9768 u cannot base of being gOaT of a rapper by bumping their songs in their hood..em got skill than tupac,wordplay,word scheme,flows,methapors..hes a word smith dan tupac..period!
See y'all know nothing, The Wu Is the greatest group of all times, how the hell did Jayz, Nas, Eminem, or even Lil Wayne be considered The G.O.A T. No one, not even the artist theirselves can say they are greater than anyone from The Wu, this shits a joke..Apologies for the profanity but really yall be playing around.
@Henri Mangels this Is off topic but I have no clue who you are that being said appreciate the respectful debate, no profanity, nothing negative, thank you and may much success come to you and yours.
Em is the goat. Sorry but 2pac didn't live long enough to be the best. Just facts...he could have been, but diddy couldn't handle it....but that's over with em is current goat
Even em recognized pac as a genius rapper, the reason why most people consider 2pac the best because when pac existed there was no enough instrument and technology to make songs he did what he could, consider if he still alive
Theres a 🐐 for every subgenre of hip hop...
Its like u are talking about em and 2pac
Why cant we agree PAC was the GOD and Em is the GOAT!
That's the beauty of it I respect your opinion and agree to disagree.
@@ultim8pain304 said said that that iii
50/50 Biggie and Tupac I can't choose... I do love Em also tho and have a ton of others on my fave list
The answer is. That tupac, Biggie and Em are just so good at rapping that people always say that one of these people are the greatest.
Just like i think Tupac is the goat
2Pac and Eminem
I can't miss that they are not the greatest rapper of time
And these generation rapos are just trash
"Eminem" will alwayz be the 'G.O.A.T' to me!!! ♥🐐♥🐐♥🐐♥🐐♥💋♥💋♥💋♥💋🎶🎤🎶🎤🎶🎤🎶🎤
2pac
Eminem
Pac
It's very simple for a fan to answer that question. The best rapper, is the rapper each fan likes listening to in whatever track they are featured.!!! Especially even following their lyrics.
Every rapper is unique in their own way
Not if you cant tell them apart like the new rappers. Lol
@@JokersAndVenom lil,yung,rich add any random meaningles word like pump xan the kid etc and you have a rapper
#s 4 and 5 could really be combined into two words: Generational Differences. Someone like me, born in 1969 (and knows of a time before rap) is going to have a different mindset over someone born in 1999. I was there for "Rapper's Delight", "The Message", LL, Rakim, Schooly D, Afrika Bambatta, Run-DMC, EPMD et al. (as well as -- *sigh -- the Fat Boys, the Breakin' movies, and - brrrrr! -- "Rappin Rodney") I experienced all of it first hand. To a kid today, Wiz Khalifa is an "old head" so of course we're going to have differences of opinions over stuff.
Nas is the real goat
Em and biggie are the goats
Tupac is the G.O.A.T Followed by Eminem
This is exactly what i think
Yeah 2Pac is The GOD of Hip-Hop all facts
Exactly
Tupac Will always be The goat and forever will be
who?
@123 321 Nah he meant tupac dont worry :)
What's the point of looking for a goat if we have a RapGod? #Eminem #RapGod Eminem does all those styles, eminem brought in new cultures to hip-hop, and has the world terrified to beef with him.
Well said.
The thing is he is really overrated he is a fast rapper who says a lot of nonsense such as rapgod
@@catvapecult5876 you know nothing about eminem if you think hes overrated. RapGod was him having fun. Listen to his deeper songs for real content.
@@JokersAndVenom blahblakblah
@@JokersAndVenom yes he have deeper song but still spits lots of nonsense in those to
Which software you use for edit?
So true
Em👑
3:39 over acting spotted
K-Rino. Easy.
biggie , jay ,nas, em, pac, wayne, 50, pick one, and I'm good
Ill choose lil xan
Kanye
Pac
B.I.G
Pac
B.I.G IS THE GOAT OF THE EAST COAST AREA
Yup, then jay-z, then 50.
2Pac is the most iconic rapper in Hip-Hop Culture he's basically like a God he's the GOAT.
Facts
NAS IS THE GOAT
ICE CUBE IS THE GOAT OF THE WEST COAST AREA ...
Nas is the goat of the east coast
Fuck outta here tupacs the goat of the west, cube had to wait for pac to go to jail for him to act like hes repping the west when he dropped his song "bow down" but yet he was hesitant to represent the west when tupac was out, so it seems to me cube was bow dowing to pac prior to when he went to jail.
@@hennigod8957 fax
K-rino In my opinion I believe that can be more than one goat though
1) 2Pac 2) Eminem
So you're basucally saying with one of your points that there are many new fans, from other genres, who don't know a lot about the history of rap, then I look in your comment section and there are only two GOAT contender's. Lmao 😂😂😂
Tupac the goat
eminem rap god
Tupac is the greatest no questions
Because Tupac can also be discuss ones it comes to other topics not just music but biggie and em can't be discussed
There's an Shady lyrical scheme and artistic meme it's not even close. I love PAC, Jay, Biggie, Cube, Redman, Method man, Wu and LOX. But Em could rap it all up neatly with a pen, cadence, schematically take out any foe while giving homage to all that came before.
So #eminem is Goat
His career is long and succefull
He is lyrically beast
He is destroying his opponent in beef to
He is not changing is his rap for other genre
And also he has most Grammy and sales too
Every album since Slim Shady LP has hit number one of the billboards. That is constincency.
Has the two best selling albums of all tine in the US, which are the Marshall Mathers LP & Eminem Show.
He consistently dominates collabs.
@@subscribetopewdiepieunsubs7765 what have numbers to do with skill? No eminem hate he is top 10 imo, but that argument is bullshit
So you put beef and grammy is your best arguments nas is better lyrically nas is the better storytelller his flow is great and he had the greatest album of all time in illmatic his career is just as long maybe a bit better. Ok now for tupac his energy bring heart his lyrics have everything to do with his topic and he excels in his flow
Now for biggie his flow is the greatest to lay in the game he got the rymeing skill which tips you over he got the mist greatest song of all time big papa
Will rakim eminem jayz nas alive but tupac and biggie died young same as big pun big l too got dmx still alive too
Hi
eminem
Any rapper who rhymes with mis-pelled, un-understood, or changed pronounced words??? (They took Eddie Murphy's Joke about "James Brown Lyrics" too a Whole other retarded level,! Degrading and depreciating the whole SONG! It just Sucks to "Me". To me Old School rappers told true stories, From Dance Raps, to Gangster Raps, More people related to the story cause alot of us went thru similar times in life. A time when fellas could get-um up with hands and be friends tomorrow. And women were more respected.
These new age Mumble Rappers" can hardly rhyme with the English Language much less appreciate or respect the grind and the female race.Although women have some to do with themselves being degraded in society by allowing themselves to stay with unfaithful, physical and verbal abuse by the men they stood by, "Most" new age rap has the same 3 subjects " Bling Bling" (No appreciation or respect for the monetary blessings they recieved) "Sex with Bitches" (Further lowing the position of women as Toys or Tricks) and CURRENT RICH wasteful lifestyle (Something a large percentage of Hip Hop lovers cannot relate to) thus forgetting the song and the words (if you can say and understand them all) or even what the song was about! Most of us wont even remember the song in say 5 years from its Popularity cause we couldn't relate to it! Today is all about BEATS, If the song has a great beat? Its remembered for that. Not for the Lyrical content itself. They are songs without meaning. Sooo
saying all that?? I tend to lean toward old school rappers who spoke about several issues and the ones that spoke English. Had Bomb Beats AND Lyrics that made you remember a certain time in your life! With the exception of today"s Conscious Content rappers, learning the words of mumble rap songs today is like learning and trying to understand and interpret what Brothers Johnson was trying to say on "Strawberry Letter 22!!! Tupac, Ice Cube, Eminen, (Biggy was good , but wasent around long enough), LL Cool Jay, Heavy Dee, ranks up there with me.
R.I.P, BIG L ON ME
At the end of the day their is no 1 🐐 in rap/Hip-hop it's all opinion everybody has different taste in rap music my only thing is if your going to say so and so is the greatest rapper of all time give good reasons dont just say this rapper is the goat just because you like him or her nah give actual reasons like for example they have a great flow or they are good lyrically or they are a great songwriter or they put alot of pain and passion in their music give actual reasons or I'm not going to you seriously.
2pac greatest rapper of all time followed by one of the greatest mc's in history rakim
I hate to disagree with KRS, but the Five Elements have been dormant for decades now...when's the last time you saw any put on a show where there was breaking, scratching, or deejaying? And dont' even get me started on knowledge, which vanished around 1995. Hell, we don't even have hype-men anymore!!
For me the real greatest rapper of all time is LANZE
The ASTHMA ATTACK rapper lmaoooooooo
it's biggie
I don’t believe it’s as complex as you are making it. I believe most people who listen to rap, knows very little about it’s complexity or its history. People just enjoy it. Therefore I believe that one can truly make an argument solely on rap talent only.
The greatest are 1. 2Pac 2. Eminem 3. Tech N9ne 4. Yourself if your a Rapper
Mine are similar just #1for me is eminem #GOAT
@@louisemandrell4218 Eminem is a Great but if 2Pac were still alive today then it would be like how I wrote.
Tupac Shakur will always be the GOAT... Hov the runner up. NEXT. And just to be clear, Tupac’s professional rap career was only 5 years long.
Exactly
Eminem is King of Rap he’s the G.O.A.T and has always been.Tupac Would be right up there to if he hadn’t been cut short of his career he just might be king of rap.🤜🏻👌🏾☝️👇🏻🖖🏻✌️
I think it's awesome that Hip Hop will likely never reach a consensus! (Unless everyone just wants to go ahead and back Eminem now... 🤓) All kidding aside, what's so great about being a part of a genre in which a GOAT is so easily identifiable? Doesn't the fact that just being able to reach an easy consensus like in the genres mention say something about the diversity of those genres? Don't get me wrong. I love all types of music, but one of the things I love about Hip Hop is that it's all so different. It's a genre that always has something to say, and everyone has something to identify with because it try reflects the human experience!
I know the answer.
Todays generation doesn't have any respect for the old generation
Today's generation doesnt have respect for anything. But they think they deserve respect in return. I hate the term "oldhead", but it's better than this crap.
Early today I picked eminem and will always pick eminem respect for 2 Pac but GOAT
Okay fuck off grandad
Talking about Em ,
Eazy E
I love eazy but he's not the Goat
Tupac Shakur GOAT. Back in an era when hip hop was invading the suburbs beating up pop, rock, and country. Since their deaths hip hop has never reached that pinnacle again. So how can these post 96/97 rappers be Goats? I’m just sayin
Eminem is my goat however I like biggie , and redman,
Now before some hater talks shit
And brings up the typical bullshit and say only white people consider eminem as the goat
I'm black and have been a fan since day one.
Is major problem is being white, the hip hop comunity are just trying to find a black guy as a substitute, yes he has many flaws, is voice is a little bit anoying at times, his albuns and works are a litlle overrated, but the goat is abou being the greatest, and being greatest is about domination and carrer longetivy, and on that, he sold the most rap albuns, he is still being talked to this very day, every time peopke talk about hip hop, even if it has nothing to do with em, some how he always comes in the conversation, and he is not a sell out, he is a true mc, pays respect to those in the pass and the active rappers, and on top when comes to beef only a true professional batlle rapper can defeat him. He is the king of hip hop, and that doesn' t necessarally have to be about being the best to ever do it, remenber le bron is a player then mj, prince is a better artist compared to michael jackson, so its not about being the best, is about acomplashiments and the domination of the time the artist had
Tupac
We don't need goat we already have a god#eminem
No he is not even that good he is overated the real god here is nas
Well that's your opinion
Overrated Pac tha GOAT
Busta rhymes is the 🐐
If you had to choose between pac and notorious b .i would say notorious b lyrics is more strong than pac
2 pac is the goat .
Not gonna lie mine is. Lil punp 👌
You're dumb
1: 2PAC Shakur
2:Notorious B.I.G
3:EMINEM
4:NaS
5:Jay-Z
Em is the goat not tupac..
miss me with that bullshit
Ure the bullshit
Ain't nobody bumping EM in the hood...
@@pedrodepacas9768 u cannot base of being gOaT of a rapper by bumping their songs in their hood..em got skill than tupac,wordplay,word scheme,flows,methapors..hes a word smith dan tupac..period!
I never said anything about PAC, EMs voice, beat choice and his topics are not felt in the hood. He's is a gimmicky rapper who raps about BS.
See y'all know nothing, The Wu Is the greatest group of all times, how the hell did Jayz, Nas, Eminem, or even Lil Wayne be considered The G.O.A T.
No one, not even the artist theirselves can say they are greater than anyone from The Wu, this shits a joke..Apologies for the profanity but really yall be playing around.
@Henri Mangels Oh so you mean the artist theat mimic everything other artists Including The Wu.
@Henri Mangels this Is off topic but I have no clue who you are that being said appreciate the respectful debate, no profanity, nothing negative, thank you and may much success come to you and yours.
FALSE!!! You cant have the GOAT conversation without mentioning Lil Wayne 👎🏾
Second
2pac is the greatest of all time
Kool Keith
Em is the goat. Sorry but 2pac didn't live long enough to be the best. Just facts...he could have been, but diddy couldn't handle it....but that's over with em is current goat
2Pac is the GOAT he's way more iconic and has way more classic songs than Eminem.
@@James-lu4hb right 💯
EMINEM IS THE GREATEST SAVAGE RAPPER EVER..
Wish I could agree but Eminem can't be beat GOAT
Nas is the greatest of all time
PAC is the GOAT...Everybody else is in the rear view mirror.
Eminem is riding shotgun
NotSoSlim Shady maybe in a Porsche but not in the McLaren.
Em is the goat not tupac..em lyrical ability,flow,methapors,word scheme,word smith is greater than tupac..peri0d!