The Very Real End Of Virtue Spirits...

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  • @BourbonJunkies
    @BourbonJunkies  8 місяців тому +73

    The point of this video is we will have to respond to a shit ton of people asking why we aren't calling it Virtue spirits anymore when we start calling it EverNorth publicly. Getting as many people to watch a video where we explain exactly why we re-named it answers that question for thousands of people without individually explaining it (possibly hundreds of times).
    My point is, it's true that Virtue Spirits is gone as a brand name. This resolves us constantly answering questions regarding a name.
    Thank you all for all the support and love! EverNorth Spirits Co. Forever.

    • @livewithaffection6905
      @livewithaffection6905 8 місяців тому +8

      Perhaps you should have called it … BourbonJunkies.

    • @StephenGregory52
      @StephenGregory52 8 місяців тому +2

      I immediately went to the merch store to try and grab a virtue glens and shirts before they were gone, but no luck. its just a name though. keep up the great work. the community appreciates and supports you guys in every way..i would really like to make the 8 hour drive up there sometime

    • @TheMarcopix
      @TheMarcopix 8 місяців тому +2

      Life happens...no biggie. Even if Buffalo Trace changed their name, I'd still drink their bourbon. You tried, made a mistake, and fixed it. Don't let it beat you up. On a side note, your entry level bourbon should be "EverNorth"...kind of like Buffalo Traces's entry level is...Buffalo Trace. Just my 2 cents.

  • @clumsyoctopus5614
    @clumsyoctopus5614 8 місяців тому +149

    Honestly, as someone who has only casually followed your journey, Evernorth is better all around anyway. It's more memorable, it's more grounded in your home, it *feels* more connected. I realize a lot of people are attached to the Virtue name, and I'm not trying take anything away from whatever that name meant to you guys. But I think Evernorth will end up being a better vehicle for your ambitions in the grand scheme.

  • @Johnny_
    @Johnny_ 8 місяців тому +28

    Evernorth is a super cool rebrand!! It’s super unique and honestly stands out more than Virtue does! Obviously the hours of brainwork and branding put into the name Virtue was cool as well, but I think Evernorth is going to catch on fast and help to stick in the back of people’s minds until they get the chance to try it! Can’t wait to see the growth going forward!!

  • @jakechesney5217
    @jakechesney5217 8 місяців тому +19

    It honestly could have been called muddy water...I'm still supporting you guys. End of story. We love you all and can't wait for what's next. The best is yet to come

  • @Mazimo
    @Mazimo 8 місяців тому +25

    I understand the attachment to virtue but to be honest I don't associate the brand with the name, you and Sean are the brand. Whatever y'all name it doesn't really make a difference as long as you and Sean are running the brand. Make the change and know it doesn't change how people view YOUR brand. Good luck

  • @skippypeanutbutter9136
    @skippypeanutbutter9136 8 місяців тому +3

    Evernorth is a better name IMO. Virtue spirits sounds like virtue signaling in this hyperbolic political age

  • @BuckMcAntlerson
    @BuckMcAntlerson 8 місяців тому +4

    Gotta be honest... EVERNORTH is a way better name.
    Virtue Spirits name isn't a big deal to us. Let it go and keep pushing.

  • @txrc51fatboy
    @txrc51fatboy 8 місяців тому +3

    like evernorth better!

  • @devin4265
    @devin4265 8 місяців тому +2

    I dig the new name…shitty you had to change it….but it still a great name

  • @scottbennett6200
    @scottbennett6200 8 місяців тому +6

    Y’all, I am so sorry you are going through the growing pains of a business.. I am sure there will be morons slap you and talk about not vetting the name and all, BUT, you mentors are CORRECT! The emotional tie to the name is just what it is, emotion. YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE and you will change the industry by being as transparent as you want to be and holding other labels to that standard!!! TRUTH IN LABELS AND DISCLOSURES! The essence of virtue only under another name!! GOOD LUCK, we, the true fans of the junkies are behind you!!!

  • @lukewo5067
    @lukewo5067 8 місяців тому +2

    Evernorth is better anyways
    Embrace it

  • @danrudnick5252
    @danrudnick5252 8 місяців тому +4

    Virtue is dead, Long Live EverNorth!

  • @xNike19x
    @xNike19x 8 місяців тому +2

    Evernorth is a much better name than virtue

  • @michaelmadigan8456
    @michaelmadigan8456 8 місяців тому +1

    Guys shit look at any brand and label or signage, anything around for 50 years has gone thru image rebranding. And every time they think they have their forever brand or name or label. Until 5 years later when a new ceo or cfo or brand manager says, tube for a change, and you will too again btw. So nothing is forever, nothing is perfect, don’t lose sleep of shit, open your eyes see your kids, see your friends, see your family. A name change now. Shit look at major liquor companies and their name changes. Hell, E&J gallo is never ending rebranding naming everything they make, sometimes it’s a 3 year process of adding a word shrinking a size of a word and over 3 years its name is different and we never noticed.

  • @seven_hundred-seven_hundred
    @seven_hundred-seven_hundred 8 місяців тому +1

    Never really liked "Virtue Spirits" anyway... kind of a corny play on words...

  • @chrispankey807
    @chrispankey807 8 місяців тому +9

    That had to hurt a lot for you guys. I can't imagine the pain of this whole process. But as a fan, I gotta say I don't think it matters as much as you feel like it does in the grand scheme. The act of being virtuous and transparent is far more important than the name on the label. Dan and Sean are what we're loyal to, regardless of the brand name.

  • @kittiwakedave
    @kittiwakedave 8 місяців тому +1

    Click bait title. New name is better, but unfortunately bourbon has peaked and there’s a contraction of the market coming. Best of luck.

  • @kellybmiller
    @kellybmiller 8 місяців тому +2

    Your brand your name. Anyone who doesn’t support this needs to sort their s&!t out.

  • @davidhutton8353
    @davidhutton8353 8 місяців тому +3

    Ooof...this is like when you tattoo your girlfriends name on you and then break up. In the end you will be happier though, just need to do something with the tattoo.

    • @rikishook2367
      @rikishook2367 8 місяців тому

      Luckily no one has a ‘Virtue’ tattoo. Just lots of money in branding a collateral 😂🤷🏻‍♀️😅

  • @mwn1218
    @mwn1218 8 місяців тому +5

    That sucks you had to deal with the name change, but it doesn't change how this community supports you guys.

  • @Jumbalia1000
    @Jumbalia1000 8 місяців тому +3

    Dudes…Evernorth is a killer name…this is an upgrade!

  • @BourbonNRyeGuy
    @BourbonNRyeGuy 8 місяців тому +12

    Keep your heads up homies and keep moving forward you know the community is here to stay! Cheers 🥃

  • @beaudwayful
    @beaudwayful 8 місяців тому +3

    Very good vid. Love the transparency! Sucks about the name issue. Virtue was a cool name. Long Live Virtue! Longer Live Evernorth!!

  • @darthsteve3145
    @darthsteve3145 8 місяців тому +7

    Just know that everyone will continue to be supportive of your journey. Thank you for putting out great content and whiskey!

  • @ChaseJohanson94
    @ChaseJohanson94 8 місяців тому +5

    At least you were able to catch this somewhat early. I love the name Evernorth spirits. Keep up the amazing work!!

  • @cjmann765
    @cjmann765 8 місяців тому +2

    Those virtue spirits bottles just shot up on secondary I bet

  • @phychmasher
    @phychmasher 8 місяців тому +2

    Maybe you can do a collab with Peter North?

  • @garyloomis4961
    @garyloomis4961 8 місяців тому +3

    Hey, I love the new name. I like it even better than Virtue.

  • @ericpfister3348
    @ericpfister3348 8 місяців тому +8

    So that means, I’ll never get rid of my Rye three bottle since it still says virtue and is now a collectors item. But I love the new name. Congrats guys.

    • @TheMarcopix
      @TheMarcopix 8 місяців тому

      Lol...congrats. You have a 'unicorn'....

  • @nickp5511
    @nickp5511 8 місяців тому +3

    Good to get it right! Hopefully Evernorth will make it out west as in west coast:)

  • @Liz_DrB
    @Liz_DrB 8 місяців тому +4

    Awesome vlog! Dan, you summed up the bourbon junkies journey so far, very well. EVERNORTH captures you and Sean’s Michigan roots. Cheers! Can’t wait to travel I-75 N to visit again

  • @miked8236
    @miked8236 8 місяців тому +2

    Yeah, nothing ever good comes out of trademark infringement claims. I've been involved with a few in my career. Its usually the bigger guy with deep pockes that wins. And anhowsyourbush has very deep pockets and the capability of making life miserable.....and lawyers rich. The name may go, but the subscribers, patreons, customers and fellow bourbon enthusiasts will remain. As long as you and Sean stand behind the product, thats all that matters. Cheers.

  • @felixacosta
    @felixacosta 8 місяців тому +3

    Evernorth is a fantastic name

  • @b1gsteve251
    @b1gsteve251 8 місяців тому +1

    That is a fucking amazing new name. You guys are gonna do great things, just keep your heads screwed on straight and stay grounded and focused. And for fucks sake, just please don’t ever sell out to a conglomerate multinational.

  • @shayneroberts9793
    @shayneroberts9793 8 місяців тому +3

    Actually like the new name better, lot’s of possibilities with a compass logo!!!!

  • @GlenAndFriendsCooking
    @GlenAndFriendsCooking 8 місяців тому

    Long Live EverNorth!

  • @jp5fens
    @jp5fens 8 місяців тому +2

    My daughter saw me watching this and asked if Cookie is okay.

  • @877-MASH-NOW
    @877-MASH-NOW 8 місяців тому +2

    WHISKEY CHEERS 😎

  • @JamesFarleyMovetoTennessee
    @JamesFarleyMovetoTennessee 8 місяців тому +1

    Name doesn’t mean anything, onward and upward!

  • @Shootsmith
    @Shootsmith 8 місяців тому +1

    Virtuous BJ Spirit Co was taken too? Damn

  • @mybourbonjourney
    @mybourbonjourney 8 місяців тому +1

    Wish you guys nothing but the best. Change is always difficult, but what you do now for the future is the most important move to make. At the end of the day, it's a name. People are buying into you and Sean and WILL support that. Keep killing it, boys!

  • @ryankopy6967
    @ryankopy6967 8 місяців тому +5

    Dig Evernorth, the name may change but the spirit and love and people behind the business are the real heart. Keep plugging away boys.

  • @amytg777
    @amytg777 8 місяців тому +1

    The rare time i'm hoping for clickbait title.

  • @xxacidmv
    @xxacidmv 8 місяців тому +2

    I actually like the new name better

  • @TheWhiskeyRambler
    @TheWhiskeyRambler 8 місяців тому +1

    Stinks you have to change the name. Hope it’s not going to cost you too much money. I’ve been wondering where to get your stuff since I can’t swing a Patreon. I’ll have to make the drive down to the tasting room one of these Fridays, hopefully one will line up with me having the day off.

  • @Whiskey_Trek
    @Whiskey_Trek 8 місяців тому +7

    Love the new name!! Long Live Evernorth! I just hope evernorth comes south to my local stores soon🙂

  • @DECCAWADE
    @DECCAWADE 8 місяців тому +2

    I like it! Almost viking-like! Very much looking forward to trying and enjoying some..

  • @TheEyesOfDanger
    @TheEyesOfDanger 8 місяців тому +2

    Does this mean the secondary market value of my Virtue Spirits merch just went up?
    Jokes aside, I like the new name as much, if not more than the old one. I can certainly sympathize though. I’m starting a seasoning company and laid in bed many nights thinking of names. It was harder than naming my child lol. I finally settled on one and what’s happening to you has been a legit concern of mine. I have the LLC but have not applied for a trademark yet. Guess this is my sign to get on that.

  • @davidbabcock3581
    @davidbabcock3581 8 місяців тому +1

    I don’t care if you name it “Sean is Pale” lol. Make good whiskey gents. Most of us can’t read well anyway.

    • @rikishook2367
      @rikishook2367 8 місяців тому

      Man I don’t think they searched that one. Miss on their part 😂😂

  • @cowtowncustoms2110
    @cowtowncustoms2110 8 місяців тому +2

    Good Choice! Being in the State up north of me here in Ohio it makes sense and you can get that slow cold aged flavor out of all those barrels!

  • @cmounce79
    @cmounce79 8 місяців тому +1

    I like EverNorth fellas 👍🏼

  • @BourbonRealTalk
    @BourbonRealTalk 8 місяців тому

    I support you guys! You are doing great things for the whiskey community, and at the end of the day it doesn't matter what name it is under as long as it is your vision!

  • @wwaller2
    @wwaller2 8 місяців тому +4

    Great call handling this now. My wife recently had to rebrand her 9 year old business because even though the USPTO granted her a registered trademark on her business name, it turns out that a company has been using the name under an intent to trademark for 12 years and when they went to finalize their registration they ran into ours. So, they threatened to sue. We spoke to a few trademark attorneys (seriously...why are some of them suck terrible assholes?) and they all basically said "You can fight it, but you'll lose, and it will cost more money than you have to do it." It was a nightmare. I would have given anything to have fixed this problem before it started...

    • @rikishook2367
      @rikishook2367 8 місяців тому

      Ugh- so sorry to hear this. It’s a confusing and honestly not a fair process. I really hope your wife gets through this with something she’s happy and successful with!

  • @Bruce-g1p
    @Bruce-g1p 8 місяців тому +3

    I like the name…hope nothing but the best for you guys 🎉

  • @adubmatters3584
    @adubmatters3584 8 місяців тому +4

    Dude! You guys are crushing it!! Mistake or whatever,keep your heads up, your community is behind you and growing.. I can’t wait to make up to your tasting room to pick up your releases! Keep up the great work, i am looking forward to hopefully meet you and Sean… and thank you for helping my bourbon journey(along with so many others). Best wishes and good luck!

  • @theandybee3050
    @theandybee3050 8 місяців тому +2

    Please don’t go under 100 proof. Would pay more for 100 proof.

  • @benjamindalton4283
    @benjamindalton4283 8 місяців тому +1

    As long as Dan and Sean are making the whiskey we don't care what it's called.

  • @treypostlethwait9911
    @treypostlethwait9911 8 місяців тому +3

    Just found you guys a few weeks ago. Evernorth sounds like a sweet name honestly.

  • @alx4571
    @alx4571 8 місяців тому +2

    Instant collectors item for Virtue bottles

  • @jakesnyder4567
    @jakesnyder4567 8 місяців тому +2

    Man, that sucks. But it’s the right thing to do and the right time. I know that doesn’t make it easier. Just know that nobody is supporting you guys for the name, but what you are doing. Keep it up.

  • @pumpedupdart6859
    @pumpedupdart6859 8 місяців тому +1

    Oooops, could have been worse, live and learn. Good luck!! You still owe me for the broken Bose speaker 🤪

  • @ghumphrey1883
    @ghumphrey1883 8 місяців тому +2

    Let me get that sign! lol. Great new name. Keep it moving guys. Great things to come.

  • @Matmanps2
    @Matmanps2 8 місяців тому +3

    Congrats on the new name, I am in Michigan and eventually will work my way up from Lansing to support! Distribute down here if possible ;)

  • @richardrister3065
    @richardrister3065 8 місяців тому +2

    Badass name!

  • @TheWhiskeyChannel
    @TheWhiskeyChannel 8 місяців тому

    Freaking LOVED this video. We want the info. We love the transparency. We need to cuddle your butts. 🥃🥃

  • @bradg.5253
    @bradg.5253 8 місяців тому +2

    I know giving up Virtue was emotionally hard but Evernorth is a superior rebrand name.

  • @troyleach5471
    @troyleach5471 8 місяців тому +25

    Love the new name, I personally would not look at this as a setback but rather a new beginning! love what you guys are doing!

    • @davidbonner3367
      @davidbonner3367 8 місяців тому +3

      Exactly!! Still the same guys doing the same thing! Can't wait to try your stuff!!

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  8 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for the love buddy! Seriously appreciate that and I love the perspective!

  • @vernonredmon7211
    @vernonredmon7211 8 місяців тому +2

    Rock and roll gentlemen. Keep on trucking.
    God bless.

  • @brenanconroy4052
    @brenanconroy4052 8 місяців тому +1

    This sucks, but is the sad reality. Trademark in the alcohol world is beer, and then every other type of alcohol. I'm honestly.... a little surprised if you did a proper trademark search, that Virtue didn't come up as problematic, as they weren't exactly a small producer. I say that as part of a cidery who went through it's own trademark worry that was even far less similar, but just had 0 money to fight it, especially with no legal fee claim possibilities in those legal battles (ironically in opposition to a spirits co). Pick yourself up and keep going. Sucks you lost all the branding money/work you did, but it's the fact of life.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  8 місяців тому

      As a non lawyer/non trademark expert Virtue was clean under everything except cider and wine (there are actually two approved nationally). I didn't know Cider is the same as liquor (as they aren't in other categories of business like the ttb/state/federal levels of law). Only the USPTO considers them the same class.

  • @chrissprague5412
    @chrissprague5412 8 місяців тому +1

    Great Video guys, Congrats with the new name and you know you guys have all my support!!

  • @L_e_d_89
    @L_e_d_89 8 місяців тому +1

    Evernorth is a great name!

  • @scottbaron121
    @scottbaron121 8 місяців тому

    As a former business owner who went through a similar problem (not in your particular industry)...the EMOTIONAL attachment to the NAME will pass. Trust me. It will. In 5 years, you and more importantly...YOUR CUSTOMERS...will only know the name you have NOW. Not the name you had 5 years ago. Best of luck, boys. I'm in Florida and am looking forward to trying your product...REGARDLESS of the name you put on it.

  • @joeyyoshizumi
    @joeyyoshizumi 8 місяців тому +3

    The two of you guys are amazing! Your fans will ride and die with YOU! Love you guys!

  • @razma766
    @razma766 8 місяців тому +1

    Vir2 spirits… btw - what is the address for your tasting room?

  • @LoJack-zb8fm
    @LoJack-zb8fm 8 місяців тому +2

    Virtue Spirits was just a name….. The most important thing is the people who run it…. And that last time I checked, you guys are still there! Love the new name 👍

  • @HunterWS11
    @HunterWS11 8 місяців тому +2

    FWIW, love the new name! Best of luck in the new chapter.

  • @michaelhogan7866
    @michaelhogan7866 8 місяців тому +2

    You’re making the right (and only viable) decision. Anyone who says otherwise does not understand trademark law. But I hope you searched the crap out of EverNorth! I do like that name.

    • @rikishook2367
      @rikishook2367 8 місяців тому +1

      Oh I can confirm many smarter ppl were hired this time around to search it! You live and learn.

    • @BourbonJunkies
      @BourbonJunkies  8 місяців тому +1

      EverNorth Spirits Co has been cleared by 3 attorneys AND I've already filed the Intent to use with the USPTO.

  • @lfslpc
    @lfslpc 7 місяців тому

    You were a gentleman enough not to mention what you had to pay in attorney’s fees! As a new venture it is crushing. The new name is great. ALWAYS keep killer juice in the bottles and we will anticipate YOUR ALLOCATION DROPS !!!!!!!

  • @JasonTurcotte
    @JasonTurcotte 8 місяців тому +2

    We got you guys! Get that stuff shippable to Massachusetts and I’ll buy the crap out of it. 😂

  • @carlkessler303
    @carlkessler303 8 місяців тому +3

    Love the neon sign for Evernorth Spirits!

  • @IndyGuy65
    @IndyGuy65 8 місяців тому +2

    I like the new name, Evernorth Spirits! Good decision to change now instead of waiting.

  • @michaelstewart6544
    @michaelstewart6544 8 місяців тому +1

    But…. THE TATTOOS!!!!!

  • @chilibowl65
    @chilibowl65 8 місяців тому

    Good move. The new name is much better IMHO. The word “virtue” always reminded me of “virtue signaling” which has very negative connotation’s in my book. (For the record- you should’ve named it “Cookie Cat Spirits”
    You know I’m right 😉

  • @greg123168
    @greg123168 8 місяців тому +2

    lets roll, can not wait for the future of this journey!

  • @codywhite
    @codywhite 7 місяців тому

    man... hard road it seems with the legal jockying and TM laws and government hoops etc. But honestly, the brand and name Evernorth, is WAY BETTER. No shade to Virtue but comparitvly it does not even hold a candle to the off the bat brand awarness and uniquness that Evernorth gives me, as a customer looking in. Good luck, keep the heads held high, and actually I do have an idea for usign ALLLLLL the old labels you might have already made, to potentially save yourself a few bucks, in the end, and make a few rare/special collectore bottles etc.... it will have to run past your legal team of course, but reach out, and I'd love to chat quickly and see, as a Graphic Designer, if my idea will float you a few bucks back into your pocket for now at least. Love your content guys! Cheers.

  • @josephdanko7451
    @josephdanko7451 8 місяців тому +1

    It’s sucks to hear you didn’t have an attorney. I was surprised that Virtue Spirits wasn’t an issue when I first heard it (I’m an attorney but not IP law). Good luck guys!

  • @jasonurroz570
    @jasonurroz570 8 місяців тому

    EverNorth sounds awesome, explains your geographic location, and is all around WAY better. Cheers!

  • @alberthartl2730
    @alberthartl2730 8 місяців тому

    OMG I just come across your video on UA-cam or tick tock I guess whatever channel we're on right this moment. Laugh out loud. I'm 66 years old. Love rock and roll. Love Bob Seger, and the many other rock and roll bands from our air rock on dude. You are an inspiration and don't listen to any any distractors. Just keep doing what you're doing. Post some more videos would you? Thanks AJ, Marion and Iowa

  • @travisrobeson306
    @travisrobeson306 8 місяців тому +2

    Awesome rebrand!

  • @lfslpc
    @lfslpc 7 місяців тому

    You could call the product “ JUNKIES’ FIX “ and we would look forward to trying it. Ever North is a great Michigan name!

  • @cstevens818818
    @cstevens818818 8 місяців тому +2

    You will get through this. Not a huge deal in the big picture. And, for what it’s worth, I like the new name more. Best of luck guys!

  • @yelworb
    @yelworb 8 місяців тому +3

    Sorry for your troubles, At least it’s early on, best of luck to you both

  • @bb4726-h5e
    @bb4726-h5e 8 місяців тому

    When I read EverNorth, I immediately thought Found North. Despite being a cool name, I don't think you want people thinking this.

  • @jonathanwilliams1974
    @jonathanwilliams1974 8 місяців тому +2

    I like the new name better! But people don't buy the name on the bottle, they buy the contents of the bottle and they buy the people behind it. Look forward to future releases, and I may just have to become a patron to get my hands on some of it! Godspeed fellas!

  • @LokiLokiPDX
    @LokiLokiPDX 8 місяців тому

    It’s just a name change. It’s the same mission, goal, and outcome. Nothing else changed. Keep going forward and don’t look back. Evernorth is a way better name too.

  • @MathewSchaffer
    @MathewSchaffer 8 місяців тому

    I was pretty bummed for you guys at first... And then I saw Evernorth. That's a killer name. All the best going forward!

  • @toddlksbrbn
    @toddlksbrbn 8 місяців тому

    Evernorth sounds like everclear…should have just called it Bourbon Junkies Spirits. And had Junky lines of different whiskeys. Everyone who follows the channel would easily identify your bourbon that way and would connect the two together.

  • @thesouthernsipper8401
    @thesouthernsipper8401 8 місяців тому

    To be perfectly honest. I like the new name better.

  • @614Whiskeyy
    @614Whiskeyy 8 місяців тому

    This may sound dumb but flip the V up side down now it’s Aiture spirits but still virtue for the fans but for legal reason it’s “airture spirits”. Plus what alcohol company has that name trademark. But I agree with Evernorth!

  • @jimidrammer4187
    @jimidrammer4187 8 місяців тому

    Love the new name! I wonder how many names AB has registered just to squeeze IP out of everybody. They've tarnished their wimpy brand without even using it. EverNorth sounds like a battle cry if ever I heard one.