In woodworking there is a technique where you put a furled edge on a scraper with a burnishing tool, and then pull it backward like you did to clean the gasket. I think it's a great idea, and I wonder why mechanics don't use it more often. It prevents those divots that happen when the blade digs in....
Great help! I replaced the gasket on my 1994 Mazda 626 and only had one difficulty. The only issue I had was getting to the bolts above the exhaust. DJDevon3 recommends removing the bolts on the mount to the exhaust pan, which I did but still could not get to the short bolts with a socket because the exhaust pipe would not move. I ended up using an open end 12m socket and it worked fine. Hope this helps. thanks.
Glad the video helped you. Good tip. I didn't have any issues with it but that doesn't mean that every exhaust is going to be the same. They should, but that doesn't always happen lol. It's been almost 2 years since I did this and don't have a leak so I can say it went very well. :)
I haven't seem many weld nuts in the past -- cool idea. Nice to see that engineers considered something like that, although I find it a little unusual that they even considered their car would survive long enough to have an oil pan removed.
My 2002 Mazda Protege5 has 323,000 miles, minimal rust, and has had the oil pan remove at some point, based on the multiple colors of gasket material I removed this week. I am not installing a custom oil pan baffle to avoid oil starvation since I am now taking this car on road racing tracks, with a completely modified suspension developed and built by AWR Racing. These cars are robust and a blast to drive (zoom zoom, indeed)
great videos! i drive a 2000 mazda 626 lx, when i go to do an oil change, my drain plug is rusted and is almost impossible to come off. Any methods on how i can aviod breaking it?
Amazon sells Plastic Razor Blades, Qty 200 with 2 scrappers for nothing. These are sharp enough to cut your finger and will easily scrape off RTV and other guick. I use to use a plastic putty knife but they arent sharp and dull quickly. Trust me, these are a God send, you can use the sharp end and it wont hurt your aluminum, if it dulls, grab another they are dirt cheap. I gotten gaskets of my head and engine block with them.
Started to do this for my '98 626 and found that instead of a cork gasket they had the gasket adhesive in this exact manner. Should I skip the cork entirely, despite it being the recommended part, and just get the permatex?
The cork gasket is NOT recommended for the upper or lower oil pan. Never has been and never will be! These vehicles never came with cork gaskets nor were ever meant to have them installed. Do not waste your money on the aftermarket cork gasket. According to the Mazda Work Shop Manual the only thing you should be using here is adhesive sealant. This video follows the factory procedures step-by-step to the letter.
What would you recommend if your oil pan didn't have that 1 nut you could screw in to drop it? Wouldn't you have to resort to prying? Great vid by the way.
Probably but I would be very careful in doing so. Anything capable of prying that much adhesive apart is enough to damage your mating surface. Aluminum is a soft metal and damages easily.
hello there, i have a mazda mpv 2004 lx minivan I just did my oil change a few days ago the guys at the valvoline oil change old me I have an oil leak from the oil pan gasket, If I take to the mechanice he should know by inspecting the car if is coming from the oil pan gasket, the piece cost around 40 dollars but I dont know about the labor.
Yes it's a very common issue on the V6 if you haven't changed it in a decade. I mean we are talking about 20-30 year old vehicle generation at this point. They do last a very long time but no part on a car will last forever. The V6 has 2 oil pan gaskets that generally need to be changed. A lower oil pan and upper oil pan gasket. The lower gasket is on the oil pan itself. The upper you must remove the pickup strainer and upper oil pan assembly. The I4's generally don't have issues with the upper oil pan gasket but the V6's do. On my I4 I'm still running my original upper oil pan gasket but I guarantee you on my V6 it's going to need to be changed. Not changing the upper oil pan gasket will eventually cover the lower oil pan gasket with oil and degrade the lower gasket faster. If you own a V6 go the extra step and change both. It only takes about another 15 minutes to get to the upper gasket once the oil pan is off.
Hello, quisiera saber como desmonto el carter para sacar una biela, normalmente la primera parte del carter es desmontable pero la parte superior no llego a sacarla, es que hay que desmontar la caja de velocidad?. Hello, I would like to know how to remove the carter to get a rod, usually the first part of the carter is removable top but I fail to remove it, is you have to remove the gearbox ?.
+manuel calderon Remove the lower oil pan, remove the head, unbolt the rod, push through the top of the cylinder. You can try to bring it through the bottom of the engine through the block but you'll need to remove an oil jet. You do not want to break the oil jet.
+DJDevon3 Hi! U can not remove rod bolts with out taking the second carter! Im having same problem and i would like to know if there need to remove gearbox too!? please help
I would clean the mating surfaces & surrounding areas with brake & parts cleaner to make sure there was no oil residue or fingerprints so the sealant would bond directly to the metal.
wuts best to use for sealent on pan just enough hold in place to install...Y didnt U use an actual gasket? I have found at any parts store so figured thats wuts supposed to be on. Ima get new pan
There is no actual gasket for the oil pan. Mazda doesn't sell one. You shouldn't use cork, it will leak eventually and auto parts stores should be scolded for selling them, it will only cause leaks for the 626 oil pan down the road when the cork breaks down! Cork is an organic wood material that gets brittle and uses a binder to stay together. Over time it breaks down and crumbles. Use RTV only!!! "The Right Stuff" from RTV is the best gasket maker on the market. However the regular RTV that I used has been working fine since I did this job.... 5 years ago. Not a drop. Good stuff. The way I show it here is "by the book" and works phenomenally well when done right.
found 2 diff gaskets: www.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-pan-gasket?filterByKeyWord=oil+pan+gasket&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false www.autozone.com/engine/engine-oil-pan-gasket?filterByKeyWord=oil+pan+gasket&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false & yes I've replaced few times but not once has any them advised me to use the gue instead, I even ask specifically about it but they still give me that top gasket. not sure wut other gaskets I posted is for. is there something I'm missing? just researching b4 start replacing thx
The two gaskets are for the KL. If you remove the upper oil pan then you'll have to use permatex on 2 oil pans. The KL has an upper and lower pan. The I4 only has the lower pan. There are no gaskets used by Mazda technicians. There are no official mazda gaskets for the oil pan. If you take it to mazda they only use permatex type sealant. That's why I do not use a gasket in my video, officially no such thing exists for the 626. No i do not recommend using a cork gasket. Use permatex only.
ok I'll try that next. cork crap just doesnt last & loox like even falls apart like u noted so I just wish U & ur info was around sooner! thx again too
yeah man i use it all the time on my jobs it dissolves pretty much anything. and draws watter out to prevent rust just spray everything pan and all let dry for 15 mins. replace
Queen Day Yes. You have to clean both mating surfaces of the old adhesive and doing so will get junk in the oil pan. There's really no way around it unless you want to do it slow and meticulously and hold it on your lap full of oil. The odds of you getting some of that junk into the oil pan is like 95% no matter how careful you are. It's faster, easier, and smarter to drain the oil. If you want to reuse the oil just drain it straight into a really clean 1 gallon water jug (that is perfectly dry containing no old water or vapor). You'll get a bit messy during the process but you'll save all the oil into a perfectly clean reusable container.
Unlike 1993-2002 626, the 2006 MPV oil pan uses a rubber gasket. Purchase a new rubber gasket and slap it in there. It's a heck of a lot easier than what you see me do here. ;)
The upper oil pan part I need to remove off my car cuz I decided to change my pistons the harder way like an idiot. I took the 4 bolts out and the strainer off but I need something else to come off to get it off but it seems impossible without pulling everything out of the car I need some help lol anyone?
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Congratulations Andre. It's awesome to fix something yourself and for almost no money. Keep up the great work.
In woodworking there is a technique where you put a furled edge on a scraper with a burnishing tool, and then pull it backward like you did to clean the gasket. I think it's a great idea, and I wonder why mechanics don't use it more often. It prevents those divots that happen when the blade digs in....
2019 Update: Apparently I did this correctly because 7 years later and no leaks! :) :) :)
Great help was the detailed presentation.
Thanks a lot.
1999 Mazda 626 2.0L 85kw
Good thing I saw this video as no one else mentioned it and I was going to use rubber mallet to loosen it lol
Great help! I replaced the gasket on my 1994 Mazda 626 and only had one difficulty. The only issue I had was getting to the bolts above the exhaust. DJDevon3 recommends removing the bolts on the mount to the exhaust pan, which I did but still could not get to the short bolts with a socket because the exhaust pipe would not move. I ended up using an open end 12m socket and it worked fine. Hope this helps. thanks.
Glad the video helped you. Good tip. I didn't have any issues with it but that doesn't mean that every exhaust is going to be the same. They should, but that doesn't always happen lol. It's been almost 2 years since I did this and don't have a leak so I can say it went very well. :)
***** It takes quite a bit of work to get the video part of the effort. I hope you continue to take videos. thanks.
I didn't know that. I'm going to go back at the upper pan soon so will have to redo the lower again anyway. Will definitely give that a shot.
I haven't seem many weld nuts in the past -- cool idea. Nice to see that engineers considered something like that, although I find it a little unusual that they even considered their car would survive long enough to have an oil pan removed.
My 2002 Mazda Protege5 has 323,000 miles, minimal rust, and has had the oil pan remove at some point, based on the multiple colors of gasket material I removed this week. I am not installing a custom oil pan baffle to avoid oil starvation since I am now taking this car on road racing tracks, with a completely modified suspension developed and built by AWR Racing. These cars are robust and a blast to drive (zoom zoom, indeed)
Oye amigo y para quitar la pieza que va después del cartel tienes video
hell yes man i just got a 97" so subscribed to your vids nice
great videos! i drive a 2000 mazda 626 lx, when i go to do an oil change, my drain plug is rusted and is almost impossible to come off. Any methods on how i can aviod breaking it?
thank you! great video! unfortunately my weldnut was already broken off when i got the car...
Amazon sells Plastic Razor Blades, Qty 200 with 2 scrappers for nothing. These are sharp enough to cut your finger and will easily scrape off RTV and other guick. I use to use a plastic putty knife but they arent sharp and dull quickly. Trust me, these are a God send, you can use the sharp end and it wont hurt your aluminum, if it dulls, grab another they are dirt cheap. I gotten gaskets of my head and engine block with them.
The bolts are no longer available from a dealership. They are a junkyard item only and thus must be cleaned regardless. :(
I'm here driving it 9 years later
Started to do this for my '98 626 and found that instead of a cork gasket they had the gasket adhesive in this exact manner. Should I skip the cork entirely, despite it being the recommended part, and just get the permatex?
The cork gasket is NOT recommended for the upper or lower oil pan. Never has been and never will be! These vehicles never came with cork gaskets nor were ever meant to have them installed. Do not waste your money on the aftermarket cork gasket. According to the Mazda Work Shop Manual the only thing you should be using here is adhesive sealant. This video follows the factory procedures step-by-step to the letter.
***** That was a close one. Thanks for the quick reply!!
Does brake cleaner dissolve RTV gasket adhesive? That's what was on the threads that needed scraping off.
I used one of the bolts from the pan itself. No idea what size it is. Been a while since this video.
what size was the bolt you used to break the seal on the sump/engine block?
Cheers,
Darryl
so no physical type of gasket? Like a Fel-Pro or another brand? Just straight RTV? That would make me nervous as heck
What would you recommend if your oil pan didn't have that 1 nut you could screw in to drop it? Wouldn't you have to resort to prying? Great vid by the way.
Probably but I would be very careful in doing so. Anything capable of prying that much adhesive apart is enough to damage your mating surface. Aluminum is a soft metal and damages easily.
Right on, thanks
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Aluminum is how we spell it in North America. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Etymology
Awesome!! Question. Is this the same for a Mazda 6 2006?
Great Video Devon
This really helps! Thanks
hello. i need to remplace the rings, can i do that witout take off the motor?
hello there, i have a mazda mpv 2004 lx minivan I just did my oil change a few days ago the guys at the valvoline oil change old me I have an oil leak from the oil pan gasket, If I take to the mechanice he should know by inspecting the car if is coming from the oil pan gasket, the piece cost around 40 dollars but I dont know about the labor.
Is this a common problem? I bought a 97 626 v6 today and there is a lot of oil around the bottom of the engine, is it worth doing the gasket?
Yes it's a very common issue on the V6 if you haven't changed it in a decade. I mean we are talking about 20-30 year old vehicle generation at this point. They do last a very long time but no part on a car will last forever. The V6 has 2 oil pan gaskets that generally need to be changed. A lower oil pan and upper oil pan gasket. The lower gasket is on the oil pan itself. The upper you must remove the pickup strainer and upper oil pan assembly. The I4's generally don't have issues with the upper oil pan gasket but the V6's do. On my I4 I'm still running my original upper oil pan gasket but I guarantee you on my V6 it's going to need to be changed. Not changing the upper oil pan gasket will eventually cover the lower oil pan gasket with oil and degrade the lower gasket faster. If you own a V6 go the extra step and change both. It only takes about another 15 minutes to get to the upper gasket once the oil pan is off.
nice video, thanks for sharing.
Hello, quisiera saber como desmonto el carter para sacar una biela, normalmente la primera parte del carter es desmontable pero la parte superior no llego a sacarla, es que hay que desmontar la caja de velocidad?.
Hello, I would like to know how to remove the carter to get a rod, usually the first part of the carter is removable top but I fail to remove it, is you have to remove the gearbox ?.
+manuel calderon Remove the lower oil pan, remove the head, unbolt the rod, push through the top of the cylinder. You can try to bring it through the bottom of the engine through the block but you'll need to remove an oil jet. You do not want to break the oil jet.
Hola!
Te quiero perguntar como lo as desmontado la segunda parte del carter?
Tengo el mismo problema!
+DJDevon3 Hi!
U can not remove rod bolts with out taking the second carter!
Im having same problem and i would like to know if there need to remove gearbox too!?
please help
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I would clean the mating surfaces & surrounding areas with brake & parts cleaner to make sure there was no oil residue or fingerprints so the sealant would bond directly to the metal.
Great tip JCHangtime. That was my first time ever attempting that. Picking up a lot of great tips thanks to people like yourself. Have a great day!
wuts best to use for sealent on pan just enough hold in place to install...Y didnt U use an actual gasket? I have found at any parts store so figured thats wuts supposed to be on. Ima get new pan
There is no actual gasket for the oil pan. Mazda doesn't sell one. You shouldn't use cork, it will leak eventually and auto parts stores should be scolded for selling them, it will only cause leaks for the 626 oil pan down the road when the cork breaks down! Cork is an organic wood material that gets brittle and uses a binder to stay together. Over time it breaks down and crumbles. Use RTV only!!! "The Right Stuff" from RTV is the best gasket maker on the market. However the regular RTV that I used has been working fine since I did this job.... 5 years ago. Not a drop. Good stuff. The way I show it here is "by the book" and works phenomenally well when done right.
found 2 diff gaskets:
www.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-pan-gasket?filterByKeyWord=oil+pan+gasket&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false
www.autozone.com/engine/engine-oil-pan-gasket?filterByKeyWord=oil+pan+gasket&fromString=search&isIgnoreVehicle=false
& yes I've replaced few times but not once has any them advised me to use the gue instead, I even ask specifically about it but they still give me that top gasket. not sure wut other gaskets I posted is for. is there something I'm missing? just researching b4 start replacing thx
The two gaskets are for the KL. If you remove the upper oil pan then you'll have to use permatex on 2 oil pans. The KL has an upper and lower pan. The I4 only has the lower pan. There are no gaskets used by Mazda technicians. There are no official mazda gaskets for the oil pan. If you take it to mazda they only use permatex type sealant. That's why I do not use a gasket in my video, officially no such thing exists for the 626. No i do not recommend using a cork gasket. Use permatex only.
ok I'll try that next. cork crap just doesnt last & loox like even falls apart like u noted so I just wish U & ur info was around sooner! thx again too
Around sooner? Dude this video was posted in 2012! lol :P
When I did mine, they Weld Nut Broke off before the gasket split!
yeah man i use it all the time on my jobs it dissolves pretty much anything. and draws watter out to prevent rust just spray everything pan and all let dry for 15 mins. replace
Do you have to drain the oil
Queen Day Yes. You have to clean both mating surfaces of the old adhesive and doing so will get junk in the oil pan. There's really no way around it unless you want to do it slow and meticulously and hold it on your lap full of oil. The odds of you getting some of that junk into the oil pan is like 95% no matter how careful you are. It's faster, easier, and smarter to drain the oil. If you want to reuse the oil just drain it straight into a really clean 1 gallon water jug (that is perfectly dry containing no old water or vapor). You'll get a bit messy during the process but you'll save all the oil into a perfectly clean reusable container.
Can some one show a video of how to change oil gasket on mazda mpv 2006??
Unlike 1993-2002 626, the 2006 MPV oil pan uses a rubber gasket. Purchase a new rubber gasket and slap it in there. It's a heck of a lot easier than what you see me do here. ;)
its a dip stick you dip stick lol good one bro
The upper oil pan part I need to remove off my car cuz I decided to change my pistons the harder way like an idiot. I took the 4 bolts out and the strainer off but I need something else to come off to get it off but it seems impossible without pulling everything out of the car I need some help lol anyone?
holy RTV batman!!
Like it or not that's the factory procedure.
SNAP-ON
yeah 3.99 a can and most of the time its buy one get one at autozone
dude brake cleaner telling you it saves lifes. that hr and a half cleaning bolts coulda took 5 mins
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