it looks like health loss is _only_ frozen during level transition, and outside that is at some constant rate which increases at each level and which isn't relative to the tempo
Luckily the final 5 second countdown resets between each round so it is impossible to lose between the rounds Edit: this is wrong the letter rounds have a tempo so slow that you do lose in between rounds.
@@sinzones3909 I expect that it isn't a "bug" so much as an oversight - they were just going for a quick and simple implementation of the mechanics in order to put it out fast as a fan game, and they didn't think about actually making it feasible to keep playing indefinitely - "after we run out of new beat patterns and we turn off the sounds, we still want the difficulty to increase, hmmm... ok, drain the health over time and increase drain as they progress, done" this does have the side effect of making the game punishing though it's arguably for the wrong reasons note that it's a very conceptually simple difficulty curve, in the sense that it involves very few variables to define how it works and less design-thinking to implement - but of course, simple doesn't mean good, and this one feels awful and uneven because of what it's _not_ taking into account - it would take additional design effort to make the simple difficulty curve into a "good" difficulty curve
i can tell you as someone who tried with no music knowledge, its not *that* bad, eventually you just trust that your fingers know better than you do and it kinda works
As a composer and engraver, there are far too many unfairly notated rhythms for the harder syncopations. The quarter note rest displayed by a 16th note is absolutely unforgivable, even in this game
lol im someone who has been doing music things my whole life but can't read musical notation well and this really gives me conflicting feelings also i don't remember once seeing a choir using musical notation (granted, i was only in choirs like twice)
Maybe a hot take, I dislike it when rhythm games slowly drain your life over time even without mistakes. Its an old arcade hang-over to keep quarters coming in
Honestly, as an amateur drummer, I did a bunch of similar-ish practice exercises when practicing Jazz improvisation that it felt not that bad. I would struggle at the end as well, but outside of the screen shake, it sounded not too bad
As a music student who used to have a pretty dang good sense of rythm for what I was asked to do, I was following the whole thing very well by hitting my finger on my leg as if I was playing, but then the whole red blurry section was just impossible to me.
theres a channel on yt called sight read drums, from time to time it posts videos on snare exercises like these. they're super fun and a lot harder than this
My first score was 20, but the last 5 or 6 were all on the brink of death haha! (and I definitely got a lot of easier patterns earlier on) We had the same reaction when cues disappeared too, the slow ones are definitely health drainers...
I think rhythm hell is a cute game! my highest score is 14 which is not that bad just for me! Oh yeah the creator of rhythm hell also did rhythm purgatory but did it as a April fools joke (not a real game tho, maybe it be a real game someday? Who knows) and it also has my favourite jazz song giant steps which is the best jazz song and also a FORBIDDEN song ofc but yeah glad you like it! (Fun fact, the creator of that game also does storyboards and backgrounds for different animated series like We Bare Bears, We Bare Bears: The Movie, Centaurworld, The Ghost and Molly McGee, and We Lost Our Human!)
I found this so reassuring lol. I really thought my sight-reading skills had decayed (years of mostly neglecting practice and not being in ensembles like I always used to be) much more than they apparently have. I didn't do perfectly playing along (made myself clap/tap/whatever with the first time each phrase appeared too) and I'd prob have failed the game sooner lol but I did way better than I thought I would XD this was fun, thanks for posting it, I might have to hunt up this game now Edit: Found it in description and installed it, does anyone know how to tweak the game files so that I can throw in some compensation for latency?
the only thing is, when the cues are removed, it isn't a rhythm game anymore. rhythm games always involve hearing, with or without a visual representation of the tempo, that lets you recognize and predict the _rhythm_ of the sequence of beats. reading musical scores completely lacks this
it turns into a sightreading game. pretty fun if you have a music background, turns into hell otherwise though i suck at reading actual rhythm games (how are you supposed to read taiko no tatsujin when they come so fast)
What do you mean? The _sheet music_ is how you predict when to tap, and you still have to tap in the context of the rhythm of the song (pretty much the fundamental thing about rhythm games). Besides, there are plenty of rhythm games that only have visual cues as indicators of when to tap, such as Taiko no Tatsujin like the other guy mentioned
I got it second try. First try was the "not bad the audience is entertained" Seems like playing rythm games really did the trick despite not knowing much about music even at the weird times.
@@youssefbencheikh8637 Mainly good rhythm and luck, but mostly luck... When you're on a slow part and it starts with a rest, you're screwed no matter what, which is what happened to me lol
This feels like that one time i tried getting teached to play the piano but ended up basic stuff and faster and faster endlessly instead of advancing so basically i started messing up cuz of repetitiveness
I can keep and copy rhythm, but I cannot read music. Not even when i was in band (I really just repeated what I heard). So this game turning off the claps is hurtful.
I was so ready to play the game but I'm having latency issues. Wish there was a setting for it! Either that or I'm perpetually late, but I hit right on time when I'm just tapping along to your video.
as someone who cant read notes very well, i was able to survive without much mistakes (in my head, im not going to itch,io for this) until the sound cues turned off
felt like playing Hard Mode Elite Beat Agents toward the end there, just watching your health in pointless freefall without enough opportunities to get points back
was tapping along on my kitchen table and doing great until the cues were gone cuz im pitch and beat perfect in my ears but cant quite read music yet 😭
dang did you deserve to live past 18 lol
no
reading this comment out of context before watching the video was really interesting lol
@@RESPRiT LMAO
@@RESPRiTbro ratio’d the original comment
edit: y’all are monsters for removing the ratio >:(
edit 2: damn 80 likes
you are not allowed to pin the comment
it looks like health loss is _only_ frozen during level transition, and outside that is at some constant rate which increases at each level and which isn't relative to the tempo
Luckily the final 5 second countdown resets between each round so it is impossible to lose between the rounds
Edit: this is wrong the letter rounds have a tempo so slow that you do lose in between rounds.
yep
is it a bug?? why would they do that. it looks brutal
@@sinzones3909 I expect that it isn't a "bug" so much as an oversight - they were just going for a quick and simple implementation of the mechanics in order to put it out fast as a fan game, and they didn't think about actually making it feasible to keep playing indefinitely - "after we run out of new beat patterns and we turn off the sounds, we still want the difficulty to increase, hmmm... ok, drain the health over time and increase drain as they progress, done"
this does have the side effect of making the game punishing though it's arguably for the wrong reasons
note that it's a very conceptually simple difficulty curve, in the sense that it involves very few variables to define how it works and less design-thinking to implement - but of course, simple doesn't mean good, and this one feels awful and uneven because of what it's _not_ taking into account - it would take additional design effort to make the simple difficulty curve into a "good" difficulty curve
it is supposed to be hell after all, you don't get to win no matter how good you are
as someone who has no musical knowledge this simply becomes an unfathomable horror game to me toward the end
As someone who has musical knowledge this is still a horror game
what is musical knowledge
@THEAlexpotatosumania style or stuff like GD or ADOFAI
i can tell you as someone who tried with no music knowledge, its not *that* bad, eventually you just trust that your fingers know better than you do and it kinda works
Basically what piano lessons are like
having done my stint in concert band, my heart sunk as soon as I saw "slow down" the slow ones are brutal always
The human brain is built upon speed and efficiency.
Which is why speed games are so popular
And why slow notes are so excruciating
@@5upertnt_ng73 um..... no lol. we are not remotely fast.
average human reaction time is 250 ms. that's not fast compared to many many many animals
this is the one and only thing being in an orchestra class has truly prepared me for.
Marching and concert band for me lol
Worchehaiaushahehfsturwshire
My first day at orchestra class the teacher started by drawing rhythms and calling everyone in front to read them
Orchadork
@@noobtuber10 mf you do choir 💀💀
I HAD NO IDEA THEY MADE IT AN ACTUAL GAME looks like a nightmare for me, W video btw
Its looks kinda funny but also kinda uncanny valley for me.
Uncanny
only 2 comments?
Fancy seeing a rusty lake fan here
@@breakcor3what is that
As a percussionist, this is still actual hell.
fr 😭
I can confirm as a percussionist.
@desmondhenderson3253 same
I brought out my drumsticks for the fun of it to see how I'd do and it was very bad lol
@@adustycat dang I just did it with my hands didn't go horrible but still bad
@desmondhenderson3253 it got worse without cues haha
The beginning with cues wasn't as bad
As a composer and engraver, there are far too many unfairly notated rhythms for the harder syncopations. The quarter note rest displayed by a 16th note is absolutely unforgivable, even in this game
That’s really interesting
Thanks for sharing!
Truly informative.
Thank you for sharing
I like your funny words magic man!
I mean that’s kinda the point I think
Yes I Understand Words
THE SCREEN SHAKES SO FOUL LMAO
The sped up bits is what it feels like to play a march as a french horn player
REAL
TRUE
As a former choir kid and rhythm heaven lover this game looks fucking amazing haha
bruh
Same lol this was a ton of fun to try to play along with, my skills have decayed much less than I thought. Def still a challenge though
lol im someone who has been doing music things my whole life but can't read musical notation well and this really gives me conflicting feelings
also i don't remember once seeing a choir using musical notation (granted, i was only in choirs like twice)
i used to be in choir and i would actually love to play this
Maybe a hot take, I dislike it when rhythm games slowly drain your life over time even without mistakes. Its an old arcade hang-over to keep quarters coming in
It is called hell for a reason tbh, otherwise the criticism is valid
@@sashali6666 yep
hp drain sometimes can force you to play perfectly... which sux when you already have the tools to force that upon yourself on your own
Osu player here!I only know that too well
@@chrispham6599i mean tbf in osu it’s only significant on songs that are above ur difficulty range
I got 19 on my first try too! Learning the timing was a bit difficult, but once you learn it, it's not too bad until the higher scores
Yeah because the input lag is absolutely atrocious
@@Roblafo that's my main issue with this game, why can't they just minimize input lag and make it playable?
As a music major this looks like a blast without cues
The speed decreases look like they were overkill.
As a musician, I have to say that was genuinely so impressive though, especially when he freaking sight read them almost perfectly 😭
great at polyrhythms but terrible at triplets 😅
Honestly, as an amateur drummer, I did a bunch of similar-ish practice exercises when practicing Jazz improvisation that it felt not that bad. I would struggle at the end as well, but outside of the screen shake, it sounded not too bad
THIS SHOULD ADD TO NEW RHYTHM HEAVEN FRANCHISE AS AN ENDLESS GAME AND NORMAL GAME
As a music student who used to have a pretty dang good sense of rythm for what I was asked to do, I was following the whole thing very well by hitting my finger on my leg as if I was playing, but then the whole red blurry section was just impossible to me.
This honestly looks like the rhythm warm-ups we do everyday in band
I'm very glad to see this actually exists in official format now
I’m just clapping along but damn this is fun as hell lol
theres a channel on yt called sight read drums, from time to time it posts videos on snare exercises like these. they're super fun and a lot harder than this
same
I laughed so hard at 2:43 cuz my brain just automatically crashes when it sees triplets
thanks for showcasing this game i never even knew it existed, got 22 first try
Really good for a first try lmfao I was horrified watching once cues disappeared
❤❤❤❤❤❤😍😍😍
As a musician, it was joyful when I heard you singing rhythm before clapping
My first score was 20, but the last 5 or 6 were all on the brink of death haha! (and I definitely got a lot of easier patterns earlier on)
We had the same reaction when cues disappeared too, the slow ones are definitely health drainers...
one must imagine seals happy
the desperate and shocked "I CAN READ!"at 5:35 made me laugh until i was weeping and also hiccupping
“NOH, I CAHNT READ”
I live for the occasional gasps of dispair
The seal that’s giving your character the side eye.. it deserves a chokehold ngl
I think rhythm hell is a cute game! my highest score is 14 which is not that bad just for me! Oh yeah the creator of rhythm hell also did rhythm purgatory but did it as a April fools joke (not a real game tho, maybe it be a real game someday? Who knows) and it also has my favourite jazz song giant steps which is the best jazz song and also a FORBIDDEN song ofc but yeah glad you like it!
(Fun fact, the creator of that game also does storyboards and backgrounds for different animated series like We Bare Bears, We Bare Bears: The Movie, Centaurworld, The Ghost and Molly McGee, and We Lost Our Human!)
Oh yeah I'm aware of Louie his stuff is rly cool
_Bro, this guy has a very good musical flair, if I were him, I could not. Keep up the good work bro, you are one of the best players in this game!_
Why’d you write in italics? Like, all italics
the no cues would send me to the abyss immediately
subbed. why is this channel underrated
I found this so reassuring lol. I really thought my sight-reading skills had decayed (years of mostly neglecting practice and not being in ensembles like I always used to be) much more than they apparently have. I didn't do perfectly playing along (made myself clap/tap/whatever with the first time each phrase appeared too) and I'd prob have failed the game sooner lol but I did way better than I thought I would XD this was fun, thanks for posting it, I might have to hunt up this game now
Edit: Found it in description and installed it, does anyone know how to tweak the game files so that I can throw in some compensation for latency?
imagine the cbat guy finds this
No
I was tapping this out on my knee and I was stressed, I can’t imagine actually PLAYING this game
as a not-actively-practicing-or-playing-piano player this looks incredibly agonizing
This game will make any drummer cry
I hope this gets people interested in rhythmn heaven
Haha wow that was great, didn't know someone actually made a game of it! Here's a comment to help boost your channel
I thought 8 minutes was too long to watch rhythm hell yet me following the rhythm not knowing how time flies xD
subbed! hope you make more content like this this is great!
🗿
the only thing is, when the cues are removed, it isn't a rhythm game anymore. rhythm games always involve hearing, with or without a visual representation of the tempo, that lets you recognize and predict the _rhythm_ of the sequence of beats. reading musical scores completely lacks this
it turns into a sightreading game. pretty fun if you have a music background, turns into hell otherwise
though i suck at reading actual rhythm games (how are you supposed to read taiko no tatsujin when they come so fast)
That's why it's rhythm hell
What do you mean? The _sheet music_ is how you predict when to tap, and you still have to tap in the context of the rhythm of the song (pretty much the fundamental thing about rhythm games). Besides, there are plenty of rhythm games that only have visual cues as indicators of when to tap, such as Taiko no Tatsujin like the other guy mentioned
You’re using your inner hearing
But it's hilarious
Wait I thought this was a Louie Zong video, man you’re great lol. You’d also do a good impression of him 😂
im flattered LOL i love louies stuff
I got it second try.
First try was the "not bad the audience is entertained"
Seems like playing rythm games really did the trick despite not knowing much about music even at the weird times.
Jesus Christ, I wouldn’t be able to process anything towards the end, idk how you managed that
3:35 that "ew" was super justified
This game makes me physically rage with anger, and I never even played it.
Damn you deserve more subscribers
no i dont this is just a vod dump account LOL
Being a drummer, after a little while.
I use this as a warmup, both for arms and feet.
I got 23 first try, but got 19 on any further tries
Edit: HOLY CRAP I GOT 39
39? how the hell is it even possible?
@@youssefbencheikh8637 Mainly good rhythm and luck, but mostly luck... When you're on a slow part and it starts with a rest, you're screwed no matter what, which is what happened to me lol
you have a nice voice for someone with 200 subs
keep up the good work
This feels like that one time i tried getting teached to play the piano but ended up basic stuff and faster and faster endlessly instead of advancing so basically i started messing up cuz of repetitiveness
This has the potential to be a good channel
4:15 you played this really clean. good work
I can keep and copy rhythm, but I cannot read music. Not even when i was in band (I really just repeated what I heard). So this game turning off the claps is hurtful.
As a percussionist i see this game as a fun exercise
My first reaction to this was
...OH MY GOD THIS ISN'T JUST A GOOFY ANIMATION?!
Same
Not anymore
>Play game for the first time
>beat it in one try/8 minutes
> „I‘m done with this game“
Madman
This is something that band has prepared me for, alas i am quite bad at the slow bits without cues
I was so ready to play the game but I'm having latency issues. Wish there was a setting for it! Either that or I'm perpetually late, but I hit right on time when I'm just tapping along to your video.
I couldn't get past 10 on the web browser but I got to 19 my first try after downloading. Finally that music minor pays off
you sound like manlybadasshero
YOU HAVE 500 SUBSCRIBERS??? I TOUGHT YOU WERE A THOUSAND SUBSCRIBERS UA-camR!! THE VIDEO IS SO GOOD!!
as someone who cant read notes very well, i was able to survive without much mistakes (in my head, im not going to itch,io for this) until the sound cues turned off
this looks really fun, might try it as well
5:32 "I CAN READ!" took me back to my kindergarten days :D
ngl the splitting was more impressive 1:05 😭😭
I play an instrument but I still don’t get why you did better 😭
I like the fact that during the video you kinda also sang the beat as well.
4:02 has me chuckling lol
This unironically has improved my reading skills measurably
I dunno what to comment but Imma just push this one out there for the algorithm
As someone who was in choir and plays an instrument, I'm prepared
Whiplash: the video game
Music student for decades, those quarter rest followed by sixtheens rhythms are hell
This video will go viral. Pls remember me
As a trumpet player for 7ish years of experience i can say for certain this is hell
you did pretty good
When they turned off the sound- my autism could never 💀
Damn dude you killed it SHESSSHHH ON GOD
🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
@@clayspace its just like that new vtuber maoi maoi kyun
damn ur cracked
felt like playing Hard Mode Elite Beat Agents toward the end there, just watching your health in pointless freefall without enough opportunities to get points back
i was you 200th sub
Congrats on hitting YT algorithm
was tapping along on my kitchen table and doing great until the cues were gone cuz im pitch and beat perfect in my ears but cant quite read music yet 😭
I cant belive they actually did a game of a 1 min video...
mkay, you did good man
the audacity of that seal to give the snarkiest side eyes after giving the most unfathomable beats is so funny
Ive played instruments my whole life and i probably couldn’t do this
I got a score of 11 my first try, idk if it's just me but the input felt a bit weird. Nice score!
congratulations buddy
Mozart dictating the last few lines of Requiem to Salieri toward the bitter end there🔻🔻🔻🔥🔥☠️.
What about rhythm purgatory? Is it the dlc? Will it have 3d spinning cow physics?
man, i would literally play like that
super nice voice!!
Percussionists: Amateurs
These seals remind me of that tanasinn meme but instead of being creepy they're just genuinely silly little guys
I like when you talk during the speed changes.