IA32 isnt Itanium, Itanium never had a 32-bit version, and in fact, didnt even support running 32-bit code. IA32 is Intel Architecture 32-bit, or what everybody except for intel calls it apparently, x86
@@Endermanch don't worry, a lot of people get really mixed up with it all. The only reason I noticed it is I constantly have to remind people that the gigantic shite stain on Intel's record named Itanium even exists
Some real-world cases of pure 32-bit UEFI hardware that I can think of were Intel Atom-based laptops and tablets that used Bay Trail SoCs. Ironically the CPU itself is 64-bit, but from what I've gathered is that 64-bit UEFI was too buggy to release, so 32-bit UEFI was a stopgap to get things going. I don't know how well Windows XP would handle an eMMC-based boot device, though.
Yeah, it was a PITA trying to get Linux Mint installed on one of these. Everything seems to work. it's just that the bootloader requires manual installation because heaven forbid someone has 32bit uefi.
I actually own an Atom CPU laptop, and I didn't try getting Windows XP on UEFI there yet. But the XP Integral edition works just perfectly. the laptop is an old Acer Aspire One and just as mentioned, the x86 efi is visibly rushed, due to how poor it is in editable variables
i'm guessing emmc drivers would have to be backported, because windows 8 was the first to have basic emmc support (discovered this while trying to boot windows 7 on a braswell celeron)
Hey, if you want to boot XP x64 on UEFI, I assembled all the required files in an ISO a couple months ago. I made a video about it as well, using VMware. You’ll need to copy a BCD file from the 16497 ISO to use it though.
You’re going insane with those uploads! Which I don’t criticize, it’s really cool! I love Enderman‘s Content on UA-cam, I watched him since early 2018. Your knowledge about windows is also really amazing 😉
FYI VMware's UEFI firmware contains a kinda-CSM, basically most of it is gone but the graphics stuff is still there. VirtualBox or QEMU's UEFI are pure class 3 (no CSM at ALL), and XP still boots there, just with no bootscreen. I'd say VMware's UEFI is still closer to what you'd find on real hardware though since most UEFI firmware still contain CSMs, although some newer hardware (post-2020) doesn't. Oh well, CSM won't be possible with x86-S coming in the future anyways.
Only reason that x86 stays today is compatibility with software from ancient times. If they simplify x86, compatibility may be dead. Is shutdown /s /t 0 of x86 soon?
@@vaiovmnobody is running 16-bit OSes and programs without emulation. And x86-S if you read up what it means is just removing support for 32-bit OSes(there are 0 reasons to run a 32-bit version of windows and old versions of windows already struggle with modern hardware) and support for 16-bit protected mode code(which only Wine uses to run 16bit windows apps, they can just emulate) and neutering features OSes didn’t use like segmentation(outside the bare minimum), rings 1 and 2(which nobody used), ring 3 io instructions(which outside of a few niches wasn’t used either)
@@tennesine as soon as ARM becomes a real threat to Intel and AMD, x86 efficiency will improve massively. I personally will stay on x86 as long as it's viable OR until ARM is standardized like x86 is (proper ACPI + UEFI implementations) x86-S is already a step towards more efficiency, Intel is dropping legacy 16 and 32-bit mode, and leaving 32-bit software only able to run in a VM essentially.
Recently found your channel. I would love to watch your videos, but I need voiceovers. Seems like really cool and interesting content otherwise. Cheers!
You briefly mentioned Vista support. The 32-bit version does not support any EFI version/architecture, but I believe the 64-bit version of Vista does feature 64-bit UEFI support.
this just proves that 5219's LOADER_PARAMETER_BLOCK (on x86) is compatible with XP, which, considering that Vista only added to the end of that structure, and to the end of LOADER_PARAMETER_EXTENSION, makes perfect sense. quibble can apparently boot AMD64 XP, although I haven't tested that.
There's not much point in doing that since all Intel Macs support Bootcamp, but it would be interesting. I believe Apple's EFI isn't quite the same thing as UEFI, though.
6:17 this is what happened when I tried to boot Hiren's Boot CD PE on VMWare. After 15 minutes of changing the screen resolution, I finally got it to not be stretched
i'm guessing here, but your newer hardware failed to boot maybe because of UEFI Graphics Output Protocol? i've tried olders OS's with UEFI and it should work in a "compatibility" mode by your bios vendor, but some "newer" hardware is most likely to not have that mode and force UEFI GOP on every uefi loader, at least with my experience trying uefiseven by manatils i wasn't able to run it, not sure why, more likely because i'm still no great developer or just too dumb for this level of OS "patching" xD
Есть куча китайских планшетов на атомах (я про архитектуру bay trail), которые не могут грузить ничего кроме UEFI IA32. Так что ты можешь купить за пару тыщ на авито дешманский планшет на винде, и попробовать это на реальном железе.
@@Endermanch yes but on Linux it's actually /boot/efi/EFI/boot because /boot/efi just gets you to the partition but the EFI spec states bootloaders need to be stored at \EFI\boot\boot.efi. Usually on Linux there's an NVRAM entry so the bootloader sits directly in /boot/efi but without that you'd have to have EFI/boot on the end
@@Endermanch /efi/ is a valid, new esp mount point on linux, /boot/efi/ is a legacy/historical one and is discouraged #check wiki-archlinux-org/title/EFI_system_partition#Mount_the_partition (4.1 Typical mount points) -> note
I dunno about all that, and I maintain MicroXP just for the hell of it. Windows XP can at best run DirectX 9, while Windows 2000 with kernel patches can run DirectX 10.
I managed to transfer windows 7 x64 to an external disk, using wintohdd just today 5 may 2024. next time: days/or months I want to succeed in transferring windows xp or even windows 98 to another disk, with same way!
enderman i really like your vidoes but when i tried that windows 10 taskbar method on my laptop wihch it runs windows 11 version 23h2 the file explorer keeps crashing after doing an sfc /scannow i got back the standard windows 11 taskbar any solution please (sorry for bad english)
@@myk1_spmore like people so fatherless they spend their time massreporting a channel thats actually good like enderman and youtube doesnt care one bit
Much simpler than what I thought, 😂 My idea was using m1n1 + some uefi files with the dsdt tables of the bios + chainloading into some kind of uefi aware bootloader lile grub but I lacked the skills to do it. Now you could make windows arm boot into apple virtualization framework since it only lacks a proper uefi. Apple only let linux macos run in it, no BSDs no windows. But I figure it can be done with the proper skills. From running armbian one can see it is just a generic arm vm using RedHats virtio for most of it.
install windows 7 in uefi with no csm + nvme disk thats a challenge from me!!! hope you make video about this because installing windows 7 in uefi no csm and nvme disk is pretty hard so goodluck enderman!! :)
Dear Enderman. Thank you for the Video. DO you believe that there is a way to make possible boot windows 7 x86 in uefi mode using the 7850 uefi files? Thank you
hrm i think my 2006 imac might be 32bit uefi, though you can get xp working on that with bootcamp, maybe that just switches to legacy boot or something
I plan to install windows xp on a VM, then ghost them, and take the ghost file to add to the partition on the real hard drive, then use easyBCD to create a boot. Is it possible? Because if I install it the normal way it will get BDOS because it's not an IDE drive (maybe)
I have a spare AMD E2 laptop and I'm installing Windows 7 just for the heck of it, tried XP but lsass always crashed, just for experimenting how usable would it be, laptop was released in 2017 and came preinstalled with 10 so 7 support was not even in mind the only driver that works out of the box is the audio and usb2
hey there was a another windows xp actually its windows xp lost edition wiches windows xp 64 bit edition only had the aero edition no windows media player no lunar theme no classic theme just aero theme you cant even run on your pc or as virtual machine its impossible. i know the lost edition the end...
IA32 isnt Itanium, Itanium never had a 32-bit version, and in fact, didnt even support running 32-bit code. IA32 is Intel Architecture 32-bit, or what everybody except for intel calls it apparently, x86
Can't help but almost puke when I deal with the computer architecture nomenclature! You're right, but it's really sad that you are.
@@Endermanch gotta love when marketing > usability
@@Endermanch don't worry, a lot of people get really mixed up with it all. The only reason I noticed it is I constantly have to remind people that the gigantic shite stain on Intel's record named Itanium even exists
@@Endermanchbtw ia64 windows XP have Efi support
@@Endermanchsince ia64 does not have legacy boot at all
Legacy boot is x86 thing, not on arm, risc-v, mips, ia64…
glad to see you still going strong after the youtube fiasco, also luke the absolute legend is back
this is what i tune in for, strange ways to install windows, honestly great vid as always
You're only getting likes because you're a member
@@Abigblueworldratio
@@Abigblueworld i love being a condescending dickhead for no reason at all
@@Abigblueworlddoes that matter
@@Abigblueworld you realize that i don't care about likes, also the video just came out and it takes time for comments to get liked
Some real-world cases of pure 32-bit UEFI hardware that I can think of were Intel Atom-based laptops and tablets that used Bay Trail SoCs. Ironically the CPU itself is 64-bit, but from what I've gathered is that 64-bit UEFI was too buggy to release, so 32-bit UEFI was a stopgap to get things going. I don't know how well Windows XP would handle an eMMC-based boot device, though.
Yeah, it was a PITA trying to get Linux Mint installed on one of these.
Everything seems to work. it's just that the bootloader requires manual installation because heaven forbid someone has 32bit uefi.
Also, early intel MacBooks were 32bit, but they don't use standard UEFI bootloaders.
I actually own an Atom CPU laptop, and I didn't try getting Windows XP on UEFI there yet. But the XP Integral edition works just perfectly. the laptop is an old Acer Aspire One and just as mentioned, the x86 efi is visibly rushed, due to how poor it is in editable variables
Yes, you are absolutely right. In fact, the CPU is x64 but installing 64bit OS is a pain in the arse, due to the x32 UEFI bios
i'm guessing emmc drivers would have to be backported, because windows 8 was the first to have basic emmc support (discovered this while trying to boot windows 7 on a braswell celeron)
Hey, if you want to boot XP x64 on UEFI, I assembled all the required files in an ISO a couple months ago. I made a video about it as well, using VMware. You’ll need to copy a BCD file from the 16497 ISO to use it though.
yooo wassup hru laglife
Can you send me the iso
stop trying to break/install windows 11 everywhere
yo man
Send me the link for that iso please or upload it to the internet archive thank you..
Because of you, I've got into OS's! Thank you man, I am watching you for 2 years now, videos are always fun to watch
You’re going insane with those uploads! Which I don’t criticize, it’s really cool! I love Enderman‘s Content on UA-cam, I watched him since early 2018. Your knowledge about windows is also really amazing 😉
6:22 Ahh, yes, Windows XP, totally how I remembered it, literally tilted and scrunched to the right.
How about you put everything all in one instead of commenting again and again? Unnecessary comment sounds like attention seeker
It's sheared.
windows xp on uefi is the greatest invention in human history
5:10 Guys he has windows 12 already, we should praise him for all he's worth
What a legend... 😔
i do have Windows 12 too (a newer build than his)
He had it since April 1st
I thought I was the only one who saw that! BTW the VM is from an April Fools vid of Enderman (That video actually fooled me :( )
What you do is state of the art. I love to be part of this niche. Amazing video
Enderman uploading videos so quickly!
There was a time when I would wait weeks for him to upload!
Thank You!
FYI VMware's UEFI firmware contains a kinda-CSM, basically most of it is gone but the graphics stuff is still there. VirtualBox or QEMU's UEFI are pure class 3 (no CSM at ALL), and XP still boots there, just with no bootscreen. I'd say VMware's UEFI is still closer to what you'd find on real hardware though since most UEFI firmware still contain CSMs, although some newer hardware (post-2020) doesn't.
Oh well, CSM won't be possible with x86-S coming in the future anyways.
Only reason that x86 stays today is compatibility with software from ancient times. If they simplify x86, compatibility may be dead. Is shutdown /s /t 0 of x86 soon?
@@vaiovmnobody is running 16-bit OSes and programs without emulation. And x86-S if you read up what it means is just removing support for 32-bit OSes(there are 0 reasons to run a 32-bit version of windows and old versions of windows already struggle with modern hardware) and support for 16-bit protected mode code(which only Wine uses to run 16bit windows apps, they can just emulate) and neutering features OSes didn’t use like segmentation(outside the bare minimum), rings 1 and 2(which nobody used), ring 3 io instructions(which outside of a few niches wasn’t used either)
@@Notevenmad955 That'll affect compatibility, how you put it.
x86 isn't the future, ARM is. x86 is inefficient and power-consuming. So, you mean CSM won't be possible in the future with ARM 😃
@@tennesine as soon as ARM becomes a real threat to Intel and AMD, x86 efficiency will improve massively. I personally will stay on x86 as long as it's viable OR until ARM is standardized like x86 is (proper ACPI + UEFI implementations)
x86-S is already a step towards more efficiency, Intel is dropping legacy 16 and 32-bit mode, and leaving 32-bit software only able to run in a VM essentially.
enjoying the daily uploads! feels good for you to be back!
Here We Go.
Recently found your channel. I would love to watch your videos, but I need voiceovers. Seems like really cool and interesting content otherwise. Cheers!
I love it when people tinker with old stuff to make it work and compatible for the nowadays stuff
Keep the good work 👍
I know many people have said this, but I really love that you make so much Uploads recently. Really missed the content!❤
Whats good enderman. Love ur videos!
You briefly mentioned Vista support. The 32-bit version does not support any EFI version/architecture, but I believe the 64-bit version of Vista does feature 64-bit UEFI support.
Some early longhorn post reset builds did have 32 bit efi support, until it was removed and re implemented in betas of windows 8
What about an iMac from 2007/2008? They had the weird 32bit locked down EFI didn't they? Maybe it's theoretically possible on them
Nice music selection. I didn't knew that Neovaii was a no copyright artist.
Wow! Impressive job!
Thanks for the video!
Awesome video Enderman!
Keep going! ❤❤❤
The fact that you can get Windows XP working on UEFI while I can't even get Windows 7 working on UEFI is insanely impressive.
What PC you using? I've gotten it to work
@@DanTDMJace At the time it would've been some generic ASUS Windows 8.1 tablet and a Lenovo ideapad D330 Two in One
A video I've been waiting years for!
Love your videos, keep experimenting
Windows XP is the godfather of Windows OSes, it can handle anything.
Except DirectX 10 or above..
More like you are tryna get attention
Great job on your videos! All very entertaining and interesting. Could you do a video on windows RT and how to break it/jailbreak it?
Windows RT is for ARM archtechture only
glad to see you uploading daily now:D
this just proves that 5219's LOADER_PARAMETER_BLOCK (on x86) is compatible with XP, which, considering that Vista only added to the end of that structure, and to the end of LOADER_PARAMETER_EXTENSION, makes perfect sense.
quibble can apparently boot AMD64 XP, although I haven't tested that.
Fun fact: all Intel Macs use EFI, so this would probably work on a 32-bit Intel Mac
There's not much point in doing that since all Intel Macs support Bootcamp, but it would be interesting. I believe Apple's EFI isn't quite the same thing as UEFI, though.
@@pikachuchujelly7628 It’s close enough to boot stuff, and I’m more so suggesting an easy way to get a 32-bit EFI machine
That moment when Vista betas save the day XDD LONG LIVE LONGHORN
This is relevant to my needs!
Dreaming of adding an install like this to my Ventoy stick. 😈
Same
6:17 this is what happened when I tried to boot Hiren's Boot CD PE on VMWare. After 15 minutes of changing the screen resolution, I finally got it to not be stretched
i'm guessing here, but your newer hardware failed to boot maybe because of UEFI Graphics Output Protocol? i've tried olders OS's with UEFI and it should work in a "compatibility" mode by your bios vendor, but some "newer" hardware is most likely to not have that mode and force UEFI GOP on every uefi loader, at least with my experience trying uefiseven by manatils i wasn't able to run it, not sure why, more likely because i'm still no great developer or just too dumb for this level of OS "patching" xD
🤓
@@Abigblueworldwhat's that emoji for
the emoji is there because "hey look someones being smart on the internet"
Calmest enderman video
Imagine Windows 98 UEFI support...
impossible
@@b3c8143 i know
I think it is possible you just have to port MS-DOS or freedos to uefi and then you can run windows 98
@@milaszxxxdos is heavily bios dependant
not possible. there’d have to be a way to boot DOS on UEFI.
I love this mans vids.
Wow! ❤
Watching since 2019!😊
I'm actually astonished that it didn't crap out given the fact that on Windows 7 you need CSM enabled or the GPU won't initialize
my 17 hour edging streak broke when back from the dead started playing
cool vid! keep up the gud work!
5:27 can’t you have changed the os VMware should virtualise for windows 8
YEY ENDERMAN IS BACK!
The black screen may be the Windows Boot Manager, as you set your timeout for 30 secs (mentioned in 3:53)
Есть куча китайских планшетов на атомах (я про архитектуру bay trail), которые не могут грузить ничего кроме UEFI IA32. Так что ты можешь купить за пару тыщ на авито дешманский планшет на винде, и попробовать это на реальном железе.
The \EFI\boot location is actually an EFI spec for bootloaders not an MS one.
The /boot/efi partition on Linux:
@@Endermanch yes but on Linux it's actually /boot/efi/EFI/boot because /boot/efi just gets you to the partition but the EFI spec states bootloaders need to be stored at \EFI\boot\boot.efi. Usually on Linux there's an NVRAM entry so the bootloader sits directly in /boot/efi but without that you'd have to have EFI/boot on the end
@@Endermanch /efi/ is a valid, new esp mount point on linux, /boot/efi/ is a legacy/historical one and is discouraged
#check wiki-archlinux-org/title/EFI_system_partition#Mount_the_partition (4.1 Typical mount points) -> note
Why don't you make a video on swapping the Windows XP explorer with Longhorn's
because Samuka did it with patching files for Shothorn Project
Finally we've got new videos
Windows XP is literally perfect with any software or computer, in fact, it's Microsoft's Best and most famous OS ever made.
for its time
@@G_Fantasticstill their best
beg to differ
I dunno about all that, and I maintain MicroXP just for the hell of it. Windows XP can at best run DirectX 9, while Windows 2000 with kernel patches can run DirectX 10.
Wow everyone knows that. God stop attention seeking
5:15 why just not change OS in settings virtual machine and not install efi?
Good Job Installig Windows XP on UEFI!
I managed to transfer windows 7 x64 to an external disk, using wintohdd just today 5 may 2024. next time: days/or months I want to succeed in transferring windows xp or even windows 98 to another disk, with same way!
I am now one step closer to reviving an old laptop of mine that runs on EFI.
Another day, Another enderman video!
i have actual IA32 hardware :3
i agree it's super rare and a pain in the butt to get working
enderman i really like your vidoes but when i tried that windows 10 taskbar method on my laptop wihch it runs windows 11 version 23h2 the file explorer keeps crashing after doing an sfc /scannow i got back the standard windows 11 taskbar any solution please (sorry for bad english)
Yes. Don't run sfc after modding system files. Duh.
i mean i run sfc bcs the taskbar was crashing on me so i run it to restore the original file explorer@@southernflatland
Nice work.
You make videos with your team))?
can you please list every music you used in video in description?
It's great you started making more videos today, why did you take a break?
UA-cam being absolutely stupid with treating Enderman is my guess.
Why are you not liking my comment Enderman why does always shit go wrong.@@myk1_sp
@@myk1_spmore like people so fatherless they spend their time massreporting a channel thats actually good like enderman and youtube doesnt care one bit
Geez, who would have thought you could get WinXP on UEFI? This is not Windows 7 on UEFI! 👀👀
these are some juicy daily videos if you ask me 🎉
IA32 isn't Itanium. IA32 means Intel Architecture 32, or more commonly, x86. Itanium is a much later architecture, that was in fact, built on 64-bit.
I’m honestly surprised he doesn’t get views anymore 😢 what happened?
UA-cam hates him for some reason
youtube algorithm says no
Much simpler than what I thought, 😂 My idea was using m1n1 + some uefi files with the dsdt tables of the bios + chainloading into some kind of uefi aware bootloader lile grub but I lacked the skills to do it. Now you could make windows arm boot into apple virtualization framework since it only lacks a proper uefi. Apple only let linux macos run in it, no BSDs no windows. But I figure it can be done with the proper skills. From running armbian one can see it is just a generic arm vm using RedHats virtio for most of it.
install windows 7 in uefi with no csm + nvme disk
thats a challenge from me!!! hope you make video about this because installing windows 7 in uefi no csm and nvme disk is pretty hard so goodluck enderman!! :)
bro speaking facts
(3:24/3:25) - Hey, you forgot to censor the inappropriate parts of the lyrics!
i just realized you are doing "daily upload december"
Hi, can you please try install and boot windows 8.1 x64 on 32bit UEFI but with 64bit processor? I have such a tablet and many apps are now 64bit only.
Hey enderman what does uefi stand for
Fuck me, I read it as XP on UEFN... Great vid as always tho!
Does anyone know what the screwed video output was all about? I had it in a linux machine and I never figured out why.
imagine windows 95 98 and windows 2000 support efi
What's next? Windows in a linux partition scheme?
ua-cam.com/video/w_Aw5SpzMLM/v-deo.htmlsi=uZmA2Jb0voHOXTip
WinBtrfs moment
NTDev did a video doing just that with 10 running from Btrfs
100/10
I actually have a windows xp media center 2005 pc!
it is possible to make Windows XP installer using Windows Vista or 7 or maybe 10/11 setup?
can you do it using multi partition approach?
This still needs csm on motherboard to be done ? and then later you can switch back to uefi!
Dear Enderman. Thank you for the Video. DO you believe that there is a way to make possible boot windows 7 x86 in uefi mode using the 7850 uefi files? Thank you
I was thinking older windows in uefi, at the same time. Now you try windows vista in uefi
How about the Mac Pro1,1 and 2,1? I thought they had 32bit EFI that’s why it only officially supported Mac OS X 10.7.5
Have you said that Windows XP Media Center supports UEFI, or did I read it wrong? Can I install a virtual machine with this operating system?
hrm i think my 2006 imac might be 32bit uefi, though you can get xp working on that with bootcamp, maybe that just switches to legacy boot or something
I plan to install windows xp on a VM, then ghost them, and take the ghost file to add to the partition on the real hard drive, then use easyBCD to create a boot.
Is it possible?
Because if I install it the normal way it will get BDOS because it's not an IDE drive (maybe)
It is possible to made a Windows XP installation which run on UEFI, not need to change like this?
I have a spare AMD E2 laptop and I'm installing Windows 7 just for the heck of it, tried XP but lsass always crashed, just for experimenting how usable would it be, laptop was released in 2017 and came preinstalled with 10 so 7 support was not even in mind the only driver that works out of the box is the audio and usb2
Will this work the same for windows 7
Wait, what’s the difference between this and NTDEV’s video
5:41 unexpected Windows 12 (x64)
hey there was a another windows xp actually its windows xp lost edition wiches windows xp 64 bit edition only had the aero edition no windows media player no lunar theme no classic theme just aero theme you cant even run on your pc or as virtual machine its impossible. i know the lost edition the end...
I assume it still can't be installed on a gpt disk though?
This idea is Daniel Myslivets but this video is also cool🤑
♥
that resolution issue is normal even in win10 in uefi
6:26 that reminds me of Rectify11
I hope someone makes a Windows XP ISO with all of this UEFI booting stuff built in.