The Rise and Fall of PTI - Nadeem Farooq Paracha - Imran Khan - Myth of the Middle Class -
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- Nadeem Farooq Paracha comes on a very timely episode of The Pakistan Experience to launch his new book, "Imran Khan and The Myth of the Pakistani Middle Class".
Nadeem Farooq Paracha, also known as NFP, is a Pakistani journalist, author, cultural critic, satirist and historian. He is a columnist for Pakistan's largest English-language daily Dawn and has authored several books.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:15 NFP’s new book, Imran Khan & his parallels with ZA Bhutto
09:29 The urban middle class, the voter split of Punjab, and Maududi’s political Islam
25:10 Democracy & Islam, Allama Iqbal, Maududi and political Ideologues
35:40 “Riyasat e Madina”, is there a major vote bank for religious parties?, the startof the military’s religiosity and Zia’s violence
51:26 the liberal elite, the left & reactionaries, double standards about protests
1:02:04 PTI’s protests and their false sense of security, Imran Khan’s political future and PTI’s hubris
1:17:25 Imran Riaz Khan’s arrest, projecting dreams onto reality, Cuba and his experience with communist movements
1:25:38 Myth of PTI bringing political awareness, how IK got popular and filling a void, IK’s colonial Pashtoon identity
1:42:55 PTI’s propaganda and bullying campaigns, disappearances of party leaders, and attacking feminists and liberals
1:52:58 Teflon Khan, PTI from invincibility to vulnerability, empty Zaman Park and virtue signaling
2:04:40 the Islamic voter, Salman Ahmed and Sufism, Malik Riaz and everyone in bed with the elite
2:13:52 Imran as a father figure and IK’s cricket career
2:17:29 Audience Questions - Розваги
What is truly interesting/unique about Pakistan is that unlike other countries the urban population generally tends to be more conservative/religious than the rural population. Being a Karachiite and having travelled across the country what I truly found bewildering was the average Karachiite/Lahori middle class family is more conservative than a family living in interior Sindh/rural Punjab.
Very true. I'm from the North(Chitral) and I found Lahore more conservative than my village. I was -on several occasions- stopped from entering in restaurants because I'd be wearing shorts. And many people in the streets have admonished me for growing long hair.
I've worn the same dress in my village and no one said anything nor did anyone pass any judgement on my hairstyle
Karachi has always been anti PPP which is a liberal party of a sort. Its direct competitor used to be Jamait e Islami before MQM came about. Those supporting Jamait E Islami, their off spring generally turned out to be conservatives. Secondly PPP supporters have always identified themselves as Sindhis and have a great affinity and self identity. The Karachi people were always confused. Hence Islam became their identity, leading to conservatism.
@@majeedalee9609 I love chitral as it is safe and love there culture❤
So according to this 'intellectual' all politicians are con men. Okay so there goes Jinnah, Gandhi, Mandela, Washington et al. Apparently they must have been the biggest con men of all. Mashallah !
@@majeedalee9609agreed, but during my time in Karachi, I used to have a full clean shaved face. Once this dude from Hunza or Chitral maybe, asked me why I dont follow sunnah (he had a khat beard), I was like: keeping a beard was common back then, and not now. The dude started twisting my words and made it sound like I was a blasphemer. So, yes, large cities have such people, but there are no black and whites.
If Zulfiqar Bhutto can be right off as Complex rather than an authoritarian, feudal, egoistic. So, can be Imran Khan, Zia Khan, Musharraf, Britishers (only colonizer's) and many others. I think excusing someone as complex or nuanced is Intellectual laziness rather than giving a verdict on him upon the morals we agree to follow.
Agree with you. Mr. NFP otherwise eloquent drops his shoulders when Mr Bhutto is discussed.
@@maryamsukaynah559 agree 100%. I find TPE to be the most informative, objective/ impartial content on South Asian current-affairs on the internet yet there's a certain deference to Bhutto. I usually find Shehzad to be ( refreshingly) anti-cult. But Bhutto's references sound borderline fanboy.
That said, it's still amazing and it will be a real treat to have a TPE + MOJO Story ( Barkha) collaboration
@@nikhiltalgeri5910 I would not say he is the most informative on sub-continent but maybe for Pakistan he is. On India he makes quite a bit of unusual remarks and factual incorrect ones too. I think there are many podcasts in India which provide much better information on India than him.
@@vedanshbharadwaj2576 yes and many indians spread false news about Pakistan
Absolutely. Bhutto was a civil dictator.
Excellent talk!
Just want to add one thing regarding Dr. Moeed Pirzada, don't get involve into personal attacks without proper evidence; if your evidence is just a storyline of newspaper, then salute to wisdom; There should be a limit of mocking or joking!
All political parties, including PTI, and All media communities, including those person which you constantly mocked, have as equal share as you have!
Avoid personal attacks!
YOU may differ with opinion of other person, but Mr. Shahzed you have zero right to mock or calling him propaganda or anti-nationalist! This attitude needs to be changed in your side too!
One is amazed to learn that 42% population of the country is middle class. Perhaps we are living in a country situated in Western Europe
Man o man! Speechless! Just got to know a whole lot more about the mindset of Pakistani middle-class than in my entire life. NFP is brilliant, the moderator(!) too. Kudos👍
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He is simply brilliant.. always a treat to hear . 👍
Shahzad, I want to express my sincere appreciation for your decision to extend an invitation to Nadeem Farooq Paracha once again. By doing so, you are demonstrating a deep understanding of the value he brings to any gathering or event. Paracha's intellect, expertise, and eloquence make him a captivating speaker, and his unique perspectives ignite meaningful conversations.
Bringing Paracha back ensures that your audience will have the opportunity to engage with his wealth of knowledge on various subjects. His deep understanding of history, politics, and culture not only educates but also challenges conventional thinking, pushing us to question and explore new ideas.
Your commitment to fostering intellectual curiosity and providing a platform for diverse voices is commendable. By inviting Paracha, you are promoting open dialogue and creating an atmosphere where individuals can broaden their horizons and gain a deeper understanding of the world specially on PTI this time. :)
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Completely enjoyed the podcast while driving on the motorway. Glad my brain worked on time and I ended up listening to such beautiful symphony of words and thoughts.
Interesting, I'm a PTI supporter and am generally 'critical' of this chap, but his experience and acuity can not be denied. I'm looking forward to this one. Pakistan needs more people like him. It is a much poorer place without contrarians and polemics.
Where were you Mr realization?
@Aunty A204 you dont have to be a polemic to appreciate a polemic 🤣 and not all PTI supporters come in the same OTS package. Many of us are also amenable to rational conversations.
@@bellowcloudlion1656 What good has PTI to offer? When IK himself is a Taliban sympathizer and wanted to talk with teeteepee after the APS attack. Mr U turn has no credibility left especially after toshakhana case for me...
We failed to instal restraints on power due to the absence of a General George Washington
We have established a tradition for spectacular rise and fall of leaders: Bhutto, Altaf and now Imran. Bhutto had few villagers in his last rites, Altafs famous pin drop silence is reduced within his London residence and now Imran is ready to become a new example of forgotten past.
Yaar shehzad kese kr lete ho itne lmbe podcast itne interesting bnakr, not even a single second feel boring, hats off to the guest also who devote so much of their time....
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One thing I like about Pakistani people across the spectrum that when same arguments are given against the leader or person, they don't support they will happily accept it without a doubt but that when it is used against their ideologue, they will say that it is delusional or farce. I have heard many points or arguments in this podcast if used in different context or in different circumstances they might be not supporting that points or might even oppose them (specially Shezad).
Intellectual partiality, hypocrisy and Lifafaism.
That is correct and can be said of majority of persons of opinions living in this country.
Actually shehzad still lives in Cement, Concrete era of pmln, and thinks that elite will solve the problems 😂 , well but who is this Nadeem Sb I dont know. They both see politics as a business, IK dont need to use politics as business.
I think its the 4th podcast with NFP. One of the frequent member of TPE but always with fresh ideas and unique insight
3rd hay i think nahee?
Starting my Master's thesis soon on populism in South Asia, this is so helpful, NFP at his best!
Best of luck !
Modi zindabad 😊
really great topic you have chosen..its same all over south asia...populism, fake promises which cant be financed...
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At which institution are you writing?
Excellent program! Just feeling the living history of past and present , watched the whole episode in one sitting. Thanks Shahzad Betta it was a gift.
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Eng Mohammed ali Mirza, Syed Muzammil shah and Especially You mera nazriya badal diya ap 3no ne Thank you 🙏🏻
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“ Shahwaliullah was not a Coke Studio Sufi” I am cracking up! Your one liners are so pithy and hit the nail on the head. 👍
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What a hell of a ride this episode was!
I didn't move from my chair during the whole podcast.
Jab Paracha sb aur Shehzad bhai bethte hain to baithak lambiiiii aur quite fulfilling hoti.
Even it would have been of 3 hrs I would consider it less for myself.
Thank You sooooo much for this gem of a podcast episode!
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Superb podcast. Took a longer way home to listen it uninterrupted!
Superb job shehzad!
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Revisiting in April 2024. Superb discussions with the brilliant mind Nadeem Farooq Paracha Sahib. Kindly extend another invitation and arrange for a lengthy session, at least 3 hours long. We're eager to hear more from him. Also, suggest to him to release AudioBooks of his books for easy access. Much appreciated.
NFP is such an amazing intellectual. I will definitely cherish this podcast for the weeks to come😍😍😍. Thank you Shahzad🤗🤗🤗
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Always a treat to listen to your work. NFP has always put forward very direct and straightforward narratives about the complex relationship between our history and society. Please make a short of 12:27 - 12:58, it's very important for us to realize the facts.
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Two jiyala talking about the Most popular leader in Pakistan right now. Lekin inkeh PDM keh failures pe koi baat nahi karega!!!
Go listen to the podcast we did with Zarrar Khuhro phir aisee baatain karo
I did. But your main focus has always been on IK since last year. Pichle wale koi farishte nahin thay.
@@Rahid.A92 boss inka kaam journalism hai ,inki koi side nahi hoti ,koi bhi aei PDM YA PTI dono pe CRITISIE krna inka farz hai. Krnedo for healthy democracy 🇮🇳
@@Hararyoukoz3106 Na. He’s a not a journalist, he’s a failed stand up comedian who gives high moral lessons TO PTI and it’s supporters. BUT NOT PPP who’s literally made the biggest city (Karachi) of Pakistan unlivable.
Wahan koi nahi hai isliye kyun keh Tumharay Punjab police ne road blocks kiye hain. Bc intellectual dishonesty at its best
the guest is Mr. Nadeem Faruque Paracha, is seasoned writer, author & columnist who writes every Sunday at dawn. he is very professional & a great thinker who tries to explain every complexity in a very easy fashion. I personally follow his scriptures & they help me a lot to comprehend current & social affairs.
Shehzad I want you to comment on the comment of Hassan Nisar ...he said in one show that if Imran goes to jail he will be Nelson Mandela and if he is exiled he will return as Ayatullah Khomeni . Your comment please
Hasan nisar hasnt been right in a decade.
Don’t take his remarks seriously
One couldn't find any other easier explanation of what had happened. This was such an enlightening podcast. This gentleman Nadeem Sahab is a gem! ❤
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A South Indian Hindu here. I followed your discussion about the Philosophical underpinnings of an Islamic State for about 40 minutes. Then , I suddenly realised that all that profundity was applicable only to the Western Half, or the less populous half of your country and dynamic of Political science in the other half was totally ignored only to be discussed later as an unconnected strand of the main discussion.
Post 1971, the discussion might have some Countrywide relevance.
This newly convert point is right ..here using the word "newly convert " because all are converted may be decades ago or centuries ago ...so coming back to the point, the newly convert are very zealous & can be easily radicalised cause they are eager to.prove their allegiance to the new religion
"Riyasat e Madina" Kab dhekhte dhekhte "Riyasat e Pudina" ban gayi. Everyone had High expectations from IK.
When akhand bharat is in plans so why not Medina
Time changes fast ... wait karo
We don’t want AKHAND BHARAT because with that we will have Akhand terrorism .but Apia PUDINA ready hai enjoy
@@rashidaquil5284 We don't want akand Bharat. 🙏 If we think of akand Bharat we would have to deal with Pakistan & we don't want Pakistan & its people as you are a liability not an asset. So don't worry chill no one wants your Pakistan. 😂
Great podcast as always! The commentary from NFP is just pure poetry. I'd really like PTI supporters to give it a listen and understand what went wrong leading up to May 9th.
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9th may is nothing stupid
Invite professor Salvatore Babones. He is Australian. We will get a neutral perspective....
he is a hindu propagandist and a bufffon who thinks india is rising and there is no oppression of minorities
Interesting man but he has nothing to add here.
Enjoyed listening to NFP. Looking forward to read his book.
Finally finished watching the entire episode. What I like about you is that you try to be fair and objective regardless of where your personal opinion stands. Great episode and so informative. ❤❤❤
My wish is that there could be a way of doing épisode notes - which can include the briefest of summaries and mention the names of books/ authors mentioned. Some podcasts that I listen to post these on their websites. Not sure if you have one. Enjoyed and laughed out loud when NFP used the BC word. 😂
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Finally you guys acknowledged atleast briefly, that mqm and karachi has been facing brunt of army operations since 90s uptill now. Because you both give examples of Baluch activists and PTM activists, which is good(that you remember them) but all these operations have continously been conducted in Karachi, which includes still missing persons, killings after abductions by law enforcers, people keep qouting that "MQM ne sirf shuhda qabristan abad kia thaa", while conveniently skipping over the fact that 90%(my estimation, as noone has qouted any figures till now) of the deads were result of establishment activities. Just 7 years ago, Farooq Sattars PA was arrested by rangers and two days later his tortured body was found, Nisar Panwar former MPA was arrested around 6 months ago, after he filed a review petition on ban on AH, thousands of missing persons were recovered suddenly when PSP was created. Police and rangers Raids on homes and apprtments was a common practice untill few years ago, Farooq Sattar was dragged from Karachi press club and arrested by rangers with full media coverage Farooq Sattar has given accounts of how he was kept in solitary confinement for suspected corruption charges while he was mayor. Twice in in 1990s the mqm hq was run by women only because all of the men were either arrested or were in hiding. Even nobody qoutes the fact that the actual court case rulling that banned Altaf Hussain was due to criticizing Army generals, nobody remembers the visuals of young mqm workers lying hogtied and blind folded on footpath when rangers raided 90 in 2016!! (They werent arrested, that means atleast they werent criminals).. All of these actions were applauded and defended by every non mqm supporters. You may not agree with mqms stance and actions (i myself dont agree with around 50%, and think Altaf Hussain became joker after 2000s) but you cant refute what was done to mqm and its support base. Of all the known bigger political party leaders, only AH has had the guts to speak out that Pakistan resolution was actually Lahore Resolution and has been tempered with, he was the only one who has spoken against Ahmadi persecutions, and among all the major parties in parliament, only MQM and ANP opposed the so called peace deal with TNSM in Swat. What PTI supporters are saying now, like you, mqm has been saying for ages about the millitiary.. why do you not qoute this along with other examples???? Burayee apni jaga, lakin jo achayee thee woh to kisi ko bhi yaad nahi mqm kee.
PTM aur Baloch activist Kbhi bh Urdu speaking per kie gaeye zulm ki mazaammat nhi karengy.
Ap chahy lakh dafa in k lie rallies Nikal Len
Dusari baat ye k MQM per Jo ilzamat us wqt ki Punjabi media na lagaye thy
Ab logonko smjh arha Hoga k (PTI k upar Jo media operation ho rha) k ye kitnay sach that.
We've discussed that several times in the past but MQM hasn't been an Anti Establishment party. It would be unfair to paint them as such.
What you're talking about is what AH said right at the end and AH was taken out of the political scene right after that.
@@ThePakistanExperience ki mqm anti establishment nhi thi phr 90s k operation in k khilaf hotay rhy. Ye kea tha?
How can I get this book
Yaar is uncle ko aaj ki date me phir se bulao yaar..... current situation pr analysis krne k liye..... today on February 13,2024 it is still so relatable.
ہاہاہا یہ اب پتہ نہیں دونوں کہاں غائب ہیں
Great podcast with a bright mind of pak Nadeem Farooq Paracha❤
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Hey Shehzad great podcast. I think you should invite someone like Shujauddin Sheikh who strive as a movement for Islamic State so that the point of view of other side should also come across to the people of Pakistan.
The most enlightening, educational and fresh podcast ❤❤❤❤ truly an amazing experience, got lost in it.
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@The Pakistan experience plzzzz is book ka pdf download link de dennn😢😢😢😢
Imran Khan is an idea, a pioneering and progressive thought that has been embraced by the people of Pakistan. His loss is a loss to the nation, a hope of a just, corruption-free and prosperous Pakistan. As a leader, Imran Khan has brought about a sense of optimism and hope that had been missing from the country since its inception. He has worked tirelessly to bring about a new era of progress and development for the country. He has also strived to bring an end to the rampant corruption that has plagued the nation for decades. Imran Khan has been a beacon of hope for the people of Pakistan, a leader who has given them faith to dream of a better future. His vision for a better Pakistan is one that will be remembered for generations to come. Imran Khan's loss is a loss to the nation and its people, but his legacy will continue to shape the future of Pakistan.
Nice..keep doing this work bro
You are living in a dream world. What was his vision, victimisation,self projection.
@@zeebazafar5030 In the realm of armed forces, a stark contrast emerges between the noble institution of the professional army and the malevolent presence of dacoits. Though both wield the power of firearms, the distinction lies not in their weaponry, but rather in their adherence to the principles of law, discipline, and honorable conduct. A profound elegance sets the professional army apart, transcending mere physical prowess to embody a profound commitment to righteousness.
The professional army, as an embodiment of order and righteousness, operates within the bounds of a just and structured society. Each soldier, a stalwart guardian of the nation, willingly submits to the rule of law, recognizing that their duty is to serve and protect. In the face of danger, they embody a resolute discipline, forged through rigorous training and instilled values. Their conduct adheres to a code of ethics, upholding integrity and respect for human life. Like a symphony of purpose, their synchronized movements on the battlefield exemplify the culmination of tireless preparation and unwavering commitment to a higher cause.
Contrastingly, dacoits emerge from the shadows as renegades of society, propelled by lawlessness and devoid of the virtues that guide the professional army. Driven by self-interest, they wield their guns as instruments of chaos, heedless of the devastation they sow in their wake. Their actions are a testament to a decayed moral fabric, where the principles of justice and honor have succumbed to the darkness. Far removed from the symphony of the professional army, their every move is a discordant note in the symphony of civilization, perpetuating a cycle of fear and instability.
In this stark dichotomy, the beauty lies not in the possession of firearms, but in the preservation of humanity's highest ideals. The professional army is a testament to the triumph of order over chaos, embodying the elegance of discipline, honor, and the pursuit of a just cause. Its soldiers, guided by the light of virtue, harmonize their actions with the principles of righteousness. Theirs is a calling elevated above the mundane, forging a path where strength is tempered with compassion, and the power of arms is wielded for the greater good.
So let us marvel at the profound distinction between the professional army and the dacoits. One stands as a pillar of societal order, a bastion of righteousness, while the other embodies the disruptive forces that threaten the very fabric of civilization. In their juxtaposition, we find a poignant reminder of the enduring power of discipline, virtue, and adherence to the rule of law. The beauty lies not only in the strength of arms but in the resolute commitment to honor and the pursuit of justice that sets the professional army apart.
*1:18:44** did he said b******d*
How can i get the book ..any pdf format?
always good and healthy perspective from podcasts but its quite obvious from number of podcast host cannot control himself to come out of Imran phobia...always go way to beyond whenever Imran Khan discussion come and cant hide his love for bhutto even he didnt mention it openly
Waiting to get it on spotify to listen at my work
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Boss se permission le lo Simran, boss se permission le lo
Your next topic should be ' The rise, fall and bounce back of PTI'.
😂😂😂Khuwab dekho ab😂
Bounce back karay gai toh zaroor
@@ThePakistanExperience cult ka ek waqt hota h cult khatam toh party is over
@@Sindh000 teri ama ka bhy time tha
@@ammarz.3654yaar tum chirkut loag bahan, amee par kyo aa jatae hoe... Say what you want to... Gali gallam kayae koo??
Please invite Syed Talat Hussain Sr. Journalist and Analyst in your program.
Bhai how should I contact Nadeem Farooq Paracha sahib? He has disabled comments/messages on Twitter! On LinkedIn he has the follow only option.
Try Instagram
@@ThePakistanExperience thank you. And aap jinab ko? ❤️
Exceptional work TPE. You should try and get someone from the forces in your future podcasts. Would be interesting to see what they say and if they're really up for it :)
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Good that you called out Moeed Pirzada who is actually Mureed Pirzada 👍.
The fellow is an absolute ingrate and thinks no end of himself just because the bloke has a dual citizenship also speaks English.😂
Can you tell me where he spoke about Moeed Pirzada?
I heard his for the first time in this episode. He sounded so logical. I might just place him below my fav. Syed Muzammil Shah. He was so fluent and coherent yet not heavy on ideology side. Loved that! Impactful
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Important conversation, no matter what one's political persuasions are. ❤
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Really engaging episode man. Loved the way both yall elaborated your points. Such discussions helps me understand the history of post partician sub continent and the whole world in the same context. The connection with the Israel, Saudi Jordan war and its repercussions in Islamic Politics across the world sent me down a reading spree!
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What is the empirical evidence of fall of PTI.?
I think in a free & fair elections Imran Khan would be a winner
No. I'll make a video on it soon
@@ThePakistanExperience that no was obvious 🤣
Bhai NFP you have swag , a fan from India
There is no Fall of #IMRANKHAN... till pakistan is on the map of world...
You can see how 2 elites of Pakistan sitting in an air conditioned studio, not talking about economic misery, people of Pak are facing and on the contrary pointing all the ills of PTI and IK... Shabaah keep going...
Yeah while IK only talking about economic misery right?
Well the guest is here to talk about his book so they will discuss. Economic crises wali episode mein they will discuss that. One can't talk about all the topics in one episode
intellectual logon ka bughaz bhi kamal hota hai they will sugar coat any agenda and will make it look like fact …….. iss ka saboot janab ke ppp aur sindhi wali baat ny sabit kia ……. Sindh other than Karachi is stuck in past century …..
Paracha sb is a thorough intellectual. Amazing discussion.
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TO ALL .....
VERY INTERESTING TOPIC ....
KEEP GOING .... WE NEED MORE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS
Excellent podcast NFP is a gem 💎
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Fall of PTI? 😂😂. 8 months later and how irrelevant it sounds now. PTI is stronger than ever now.
and now ??
In Politics : Never say never: Late Queen Elizabeth said: She HAD VAST political exp. more then entire life of some PK politicians.
Is it?
Pracha Saab was like my history teacher 🎉🎉❤❤
I stumbled upon one of your podcasts and now I have watched some of your podcasts. Great content. Hope you are not kidnapped. Stay blessed. 🇮🇳
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Two ppp jiyalas discussing PTIs' future 😂😂😂
Shahzad bhai you are gem ap jase or 2,4 agaye to shayd hum achi raah pe ajyga best of luck bro ❤❤
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The most knowledgable podcast i have ever seen, I feel soo proud that ppl of such High morals and Intellectual standards are among us....
Lots of love for Paracha Sb. And Shehzad for promoting sane, logical and informative content.
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If you think Paracha is sane you need to medical help. This guy reminds me of that character out of Pink Panther movies - Chief Inspector Charles Dreyfus who is driven crazy by Inspectopr Clouseau. The mere mention of 'Clouseau' has Dreyfus go into mental breakdown as he volently utters tirade of profanity against Clouseau. Same with Paracha. This guy can't talk or write about anything these days but Imran Khan. I suspect he is another chamcha of the establishment. But keep this in mind. Imran Khan has achieved more then Paracha would do even in ten life times.
And I would love to ask Paracha or Pk Experiance when will they have the balls to cover the bestial rule of Zardari in interior Sindh? Poor people who are literally enslaved for generations and are killed like wild animals without any justice. But then that would require real journalism.
@@stoopidpaki4806 Poor Wannabe Mr. NOBODY, keep watching Pink Panther, I hope it helps you digest the fact that IK is Politically Over 😉
Is it still "fall" when forced out at gunpoint by corrupt generals?
By that logic it wasn't a rise then when he was forced in at the same gunpoint
@@ThePakistanExperience were all the massive jalsas and protests in his support worldwide also at gunpoint ?
Please dont compare pakistan with india......India is democracy... Pakistan s islamic nation under millitary rule not democracy
Tarek Fateh saheb was so right about Pakistan. RIP 🕯
Unfortunately also a habitual fake news peddler.
@@zh1148 Hope your country becomes stable. No prosperity in near future.
pata nahin kon sa sindh dekha boss app ny jahan ppp done something for sindhis I went to sindh and it looked like just went 50 years back and am not talking about some villages but main cities other than karachi ……..
Larkana is more modern than LHR or isl
Yeh woh sindh hai Jo sirf yeh dekh sakte hai
@@muhammadali7028 Hahahaha yes that’s why crows wear white suits and look whiter than black crows of lahore and islamabad
@@azhariqbal12345 u will see in upcoming years
Larkana will beat Dubai in every aspect of development
@@muhammadali7028 😀 ok
This guy is a gem!
Is it possible to buy the digital version of his book?
Check on Amazon
NFP's/Your argument about people being more receptive to "protesters in jeans" has little substance. The reason why they get more support in leftist/liberal circles is due to the things they represent. A guy in Shalwar Kameez with a beard protesting for values they represent would get similar support.
Why would you expect both protests to get similar support? There's no contradiction in supporting a "pro democracy" movement and rejecting a religious fundamentalist one. Honestly, just comes across as shallow critique.
Upload time of TPE; Shehzad bhai cuts around 2 hrs of our sleep every following night.
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Nice and open discussion. Would be nice if you bring in other perspectives and keep up the good balanced work.
Democracy & Islam wale section main aur Riyasat e Madina main jo discussion ki hai Nadeem Farooq Paracha sahab ne, it seems his knowledge of Islam has some very serious holes that he needs to look into.
Shehzad love your work. I wanted to ask you,when are you going to do a podcast with Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza
Paisay jama kar raha hoon Jhelum janay kay liye, will take another couple of months
@@ThePakistanExperience online karle
@@ThePakistanExperience at least aik building block toh hoga
@@ThePakistanExperience for you to later expand upon
@@ThePakistanExperience money making idea. How to make a million dollar podcast course 😜
What I find funny is your podcast are always about IK and at least revolve around him as if he is only evil in Pakistan.
Podcast before this was on Karachi. The one before that was on Sabeen. The one before that was on the history of Pakistan. I can keep going. No idea how you got that always.
@@ThePakistanExperience what I meant was whenever you sit with someone from media or just journalists or economist.
@@ThePakistanExperience if you really wanna call out, call out these SIYASSI DUFFERS who have been pointing guns at their own ppl.
@@user-ec8rh8db4m ammar Khan was thr last economist on. Us nay PDM kee bajayee. Zarrar Khuhro podcast mai sirf PDM kee bajayee ja rahi hay.
@@urrasscal8380 not funny
From India
i appreciate ur energy and heart (keep at it)
there are very few in our subcontinent that can match your patriotism(love for the nation and its people)
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Looking forward to watching it!!
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I was bored i asked chatgpt suggest me some books for knowledge Even chatgpt suggested someone podcasts so here im again 😆
Young 🌱 journalist.know more than thirty.people were ordered the killings only one FIR was registered ®️ that proved a.nemesis 9:44 thanks 🙏 mrs ghazanfar
How many people have been sent to death 💀☠️💀☠️ by PM IIk PM Nawaz ,PM Shabaz
? 13:15 thanks 🙏 mrs ghazanfar
Middle -class are the 🔊
Career oriented landless people of Pakistan, mrs ghazanfar thanks 🙏 pr
Personal 💻 belief
Where the.Righteous Caliphs rulers Dictators? 59:19 thanks 🙏 mrs ghazanfar
I understand the fact that all politicians are elites and care little about our problems. My question is, ke is saal vote kis ko dena hai?. Dena bhi hai army khudi dekhle gi k kis ko puppet ruler banana hai 😅. Plus, who will u vote and why?
Jisko marzi day do. Everyone should see the candidates in their own constituency
@@ThePakistanExperience you're saying that I have to see ke kon kam bura hai?🥲 Just 16 can't vote
Very good and informative show, thanks for uploading.
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I am currently reading the book.. n I am unable to under the point NFP made in the second chapter.. when he said that the after the departure of mushi the "religious -neutrals" segment of the middle class went for immi ... And the next page paracha says . Immi followers were islamic apologists who went to the extend saying suicide bombers are carried out by non Muslims with in the country ".. I find these two idea quite different. Can anyone explain this .. thanks
Kya timing hai ustaaaaad wah wah wah
Perfect timing :P
An epic midnight drop
NFP rocked again with his speculative analysis. What a gem he is. ❤
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Shehzad - do you mind putting some Info of your educational background in the bios across various platforms ? Every time I share stuff by you, people start questioning me. I have been following for some time now and loving how you are growing (and in the right direction) ❤
I did my BA/LLB from LUMS. The focus of my BA was political philosophy. Then I went to the US on a Fulbright Scholarship to do my Masters in Theatre History. After coming back I taught at Lyceum, KGS, CBM, and NAPA for a few years.
@@ThePakistanExperience thank you. Are you on Linkedin? You look so young ❤️
@@ThePakistanExperience i Will screen shot this.
@@kalsum77 I am but I haven't been active in years.
Shahzad bhai request to invite manzoor pashteen or Taimur Rehman to your show
Ek khuwaish toh poori kar hee sakta hoon
@@ThePakistanExperience bas phir maz he ajaye
Please invite Junaid Akram
There is no fall, only raise of IK, the man is 50 feet over the looters generals, Bajwa ex chief become general. Yet looted billion dollars, but sacred to fight a war with India admitted! PDM and establishment, most hated with Pakistani public every where ! You guys want the thief nawaz and Zardari !
Always informative - great talk
NFP, Brilliant as always, podcast was so engaging that did know I watched it all in 1 go. Would suggest you to invite NFP atleast once in 3 months. Its a big treat to listen to him. Shehzad, i really appreciate the way you do your podcasts. Going to buy the book.
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Are you guys going to plan a podcast with "SHARMEEN OBAID CHENOI". She is a rare jewel that reached to heights of success globally. I would love to hear you interview her and there's alot to her life. It can probably add a lot of value to many of our lives. #sharmeenobaidchenoi
Fall of PTI? Kal election krao pata chle kis ka fall howa ha.
Itni jhaldi kya hai? Abhi to NIAZI ka Salwar utaarna baaki hai... Fiqr mat karo, lully dekhe bina election nahi hoga...
excellent excellent excellent , brilliant discussion ,
Thank you very much for your very informative and very interesting program
It is a *Power Play* between *Imran Khan* (with higher Judiciary and Retd. Army Officers in his pocket) and *Asim Munir* (with PDM government in his pocket)...
*History will be written* by the Victor of this Battle...
And NO prizes for guessing who will win!
yar ye to next level wala scene ha,, NFP ki books prhni prain gi myths torny k liye.
Always good to listen to NFP! Don't agree with some of his political views but he's truly a goldmine of information especially when it comes to the history of our politics. Also Shehzad, really like how you don't agree with everything the other person says. It's good to see you standing firm on what you believe in while respectfully letting the other person give their opinion.
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Shame on you for the caption “fall of PTI”
Ok rise of Pti
bhai puri podcast to sun le 😂😂
bina sune yu judgement paas nahi ki jaati
I am all for delusions but how can anyone argue that currently PTI is at a low?
I am not saying they can't rise again but this is not the best of times for the party, that much is undeniable.
wese bhi Khan ke Malik naam ke logo ke sath gehray taalukat hai😂😂