Social Media Parents Must Be Stopped
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The first “social media babies” are hitting adulthood and pushing back on parental oversharing and the commodification of childhood.
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"What the f do you know about them?"
1. They are half White half Asian.
2. I assume they have Canadian citizenship.
3. There's three of them, two girls and one boy.
4. The latter is already cooler than his father.
The girls probably are too 😛
Don’t forget number 5. They play video games. Number 6. Their father runs ltt.
There is a non-zero probability they know how to play badminton.
Their mom will probably be very involved with their first tax returns.
@@SteveBrownRacing Excellent use of "non-zero probability." Sometimes you just can't get kids to share in your interests, as my father regularly laments regarding heavy metal music.
Their spoiled rotten and will never have to have a real job cuz daddy will just invent some position in his company.
My wife and I had our first child. We decided we will give our children 0 social media presence. Firstly to protect them and secondly to let them make these decisions when they’re older. This culture of over sharing needs to stop. Social media isn’t even safe and we know it
The fact that you two even have a social media presence is telling
@@georgexander7170 You know both of them personally?
Spot on!
@@KyleRuggles how can you choose to give your child "0 social media presence" if you don't have social media?
It's like saying "I chose to keep my children in public school" when you make $3000 a month, as if it's a choice.
Anyways, you just got outenglished by a non native speaker. Consider DuoLingo
@@KyleRuggles you can't keep your children from social media presence if you don't have one.
I cant believe famed actor Linus Sebastian from hit show The X-Files is the chief vision officer of a tech company
I want to believe!
The truth is out there.
Do do do do do *whistle*
kinda want to find which episode he was in tbh
@@namelessalias0007 I looked it up, it's Red Museum -- from season 2 (1994) -- which is the one with a cult that abducts teenagers. Linus' role was "inoculated child (uncredited)", and he was 8 years old at the time.
The amount of parents who pimp out their children on social media is absurd.
X-Files Season 2, Episode 10: Red Museum. Linus was 'Inoculated Child (uncredited)'
H-How..How did you find that out
They were uncredited. How did you find that? And so fast??
more importantly what was he inoculated with
Probably saw it when it aired and always realized it but never had an opportunity to share the knowledge lmao
.....or just google
I remember a house video that Linus made where I noticed they cencored the names on the doors to the childrens' rooms, which made me think "That was stupid because we already know their names... wait, he never uses their names on camera! It's always young man or sweetie".
WTF LINUS WAS AN EXTRA ON THE XFILES? THAT IT SO RANDOM WHAT
and he didn't see the ep wtf
@@a19k he doesnt remeber ... he probly could find out i searched youtube to see if anyone found it and posted it didnt see ti
As soon i saw this video the first thing that came to mind was a mother who posted a UA-cam short that her baby girl just got her period. And she used a meme song as background music. I think it was the "all the pretty girls walk like this song". The kinds of things some parents post about their children's private life on social media is insane.
I started a podcast with one of my kids.
I was so concerned about the idea of child exploitation, that I actually set up a separate bank account just for that podcast, and didn't touch any of the money from it before talking to a lawyer about the appropriate way to distribute funds. I absolutely support the future kid suing their parents for fair compensation.
Do you talk to your child about issues like this, and what their opinion is about it? If so, I would love to hear their opinion and see what they think about it at their age.
Fair compensation is not the only issue here, or even the main issue. The main issue is does the kid even want to do it at all? Is the kid old enough to even meaningfully consent to being put on the internet at all?
Woah didn't expect to see you here. Love your channel ❤
@@karlhendrikse I agree, there are other more pressing concerns, specially when anything that goes up on the internet, always stays on the internet, but knowing VicedRhino, he probably did everything the best he could, so his kid is comfortable, and knows what's happening, heck I would even guess that his kid was the one wanting to do a podcast in the first place.
@VicedRhino Keep up the awesome work you do in your channel!, love the content :)
I remember there was a story of a couple in the US, who wanted to adopt a kid from, I believe the Philippines, maybe Indonesia (don't quote me on that). And as soon as they learned that they weren't allowed to post anything about the child for at least a year after the adoption. They immediately backed out.
Grandparents would grow up with 10+ siblings on a farm and they all full sun-up to sun-down alongside their parents, often either not attending school or only through lower education because it was seen as a way to help the family farm. Even that wasn't as bad as the parents who are actually mentally and physically abusing their kids for clout and financial gain.
I really don't think a childhood of working on family farm is as harmful as family blogger childhood. There are way too many presidents, world leaders, celebrities, businessmen... etc that came from a family farms, they all seem to look back fondly on it, saying that it made them who they are now. Unlike the family bloggers.
nah, its both harmful. honestly I never saw the appeal of having kids. hell I can't see the appeal of my own life, how was I supposed to appeal life to somebody else aka my children?
actually, do you even have a job?
You can take the work part out of it and just talk about the privacy. And it's a no-go just for that.
@@komocakeps527look, I can't pretend to know you or what your life has been like. But nothing make me sadder than seeing someone say they don't see the appeal of having kids. If you have nephews/nieces, the appeal becomes pretty obvious quickly.
This world is full of darkness. And adulthood amplifies it. And yet, when I see my nephews precious face, giggling at the smallest things, that innocence helps to shine a light back on the world. For me, raising kids is a chance to get some of that innocence back as an adult.
That being said, it's better not not have kids than to raise kids you don't care about, so i can't judge you.
@@komocakeps527I mean this kindly: get help. You sound super depressed
The interesting thing is that Child Actors are covered by the The Coogan Act where exactly this stuff happened. The Child Actor coogan was working until he was 18, exepceted money to be in his account, but his parents and family had spent it all. A lot of suing and lawwyering happened and eventually the Coogan Act was established to protect kids.
Its really interesting to read what happened in the Coogan Act and how Coogan was harmed by it.
Sue them... Sue them to the ground.
Agreed! Give them the share they are owed, plus compensation for psychological damage and possibly even defamation of character.
It is SCARY to think that by the time I was in highschool, children entering elementary school could have their entire life documented via pictures, videos, audio recordings and other means all on their parent's iPhone.
Stuff like this makes me glad to have finished high school just before the smart phone age really began.
After a good college buddy got married, his wife basically took over his facebook page and started sharing EVERYTHING about their family happenings, and was getting beyond absurd after their second child. The whole "look at us be jealous" aspect was also beyond tired. And he just kept going along with it. I stopped keeping in touch with him after a while.
_edit:_ because pecking on a touchscreen keyboard is hard
My wife takes thousands of pictures of our kids, and 0 of them are online. WAY too many creeps out there to be doing that.
Hold up Linus was an extra on X-Files and doesn't drop the episode??????????????
Redditors found it, Season 2 Ep 10, but didnt provide a time. Its a short panning sequence
Just look for the kid who's presenting the schematics of a Nokia cell phone.
sharing your daughter's private medical info on social media, it's straight up evil! I'm glad my mom wasn't and Isn't, a camera Freak! parents that truly don't love their Kids. Just the money they can generate.
I'd argue most people don't understand the responsibility of parenthood. They just think providing for the family is good regardless of how without comprehending the cost to their child.
Imagine growing up having to think about "Was I born just so my parents could make money off my existence?"
It's not every family vlog child but it seems way worse than the 'was I a mistake' thoughts I still get as an adult.
I also have a coworker who's wife runs a VERY successful 'mommy-blog' who has 7 kids already at 32 & openly says 'yeah we're going to keep having them or else (wifes) blog will run out of content.' Their market is mothers of newborns to 3 y/os - their point is you kinda need one to keep being an influencer.
Yuck.
yes yuck indeed. but you know what's worse? God. God putting all of us into this pathetic existence and He wants us to GLORIFY HIS DESIGN.
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is horrible. Truly does not care for her kids, only thinks of them as moneymaking opportunities 😢
@@komocakeps527there's no solid evidence for the existence of god(s)
@@silk1435 Totally, I mean i hear him talk about his kids & it's obvious he loves them like a good father buuuuuuuuut.... it's gross
Linus said pretty much all of this many years ago when his kids first started appearing on LTT videos, he said then that officially they would be treated as external subcontractors and paid (into trust funds) as such
The channel Crazymiddles is even worse - they constantly vlog about their huge ADOPTED family. It all looks very wholesome, and the kids all seem happy, but I'm reminded of the two female vloggers who adopted loads of black kids and vlogged about it before killing them all in a murder suicide. Point is, appearances can be deceptive.
Wtf
That turned to 100 to 0 real quick
@@wibs0n68 ummmm... other way i think....
@@shawn4116 if you're telling a murder suicide a 100, sure
Depends on how you look at it, I guess?
Parents thinking their children are their possessions.
mY bOdY mY cHoIcE
Parents never have asked for their unborn child for consent to be born, it's always about the parents as justification to bring a future adult into this world.
and they should be. otherwise they're not their responsibility. as the saying goes:
not my beach not my problem. not my kids not my problem. you want the government to "possess" the children instead? I have many horror stories to tell you then!
@@komocakeps527 There has to be a balance between the child's autonomy and the parent's authority. Nobody is suggesting the government should have property over children. That is a strawman.
@@FinnStel weak argument. the moment you "negotiate" authority is the moment you lost it. have your own kids then!
Watch X-Files jump to the top of streaming with people looking for Linus
S2e10
This was a problem in the times of blogs, where kids that grow up did law suit against their parents about things that was posted on their blogs this should have regulation a long time ago, now is worst
Agreed. Parents should respect the privacy rights of their children, and the government and everyone else should respect the privacy rights of the entire citizenry.
Extra on "The X-Files"? Which episode, at what time?
pretty sure there's at least several people already on it lol
S2 EP10 around the 43 min mark
@@agiell163 Holy sh*t dude, you're the man! Altough I can't pick him from the group of kids, hehehe.
kids are not accessories. everything that you do should be for your kids (until they reach adulthood) not the other way around.
When I'll have kids, I will NEVER share info about them on social media, and probably won't even upload pictures for the world wide web to see. If I do share pictures it will ONLY be to my family and friends. There are way too many creeps online and I don't want to take the risk. When they are old enough to be on social media (I'd say about 16), then THEY can share photos from their childhood if they want to. Still, though I'd advise them against it unless it's with friends and family.
Agreed, these shameless exploitations need to stop being on my kid's recommended feeds. It's also ruining perception of reality.
Question: at what point do kids in aspiring family vlogs become child laborers? Theres obviously a floor because if someone decides to post home videos somewhere or a pic of their kid on their **personal and private** social media, no one would consider those children to be performing labor. But if you’re a child participating in making content for an extended period a la The Ace Family, that obviously does count as child labor. So I think the issue is finding the line
as soon as money becomes involved
The line is, whenever it is monetized, or whenever there is a public following.
@@nathanielhill8156 I would agree with that more actually because some people just want the attention and the money is secondary.
If you're way there point where it's an "aspiring family vlog" then it's already child labour.
lol I guess it's just my gen-x attitude but labor as a child was normal and expected.
I remember chopping wood, cleaning stalls, picking berries and bucking hay as young as 8 years old on my parents friends farms, and my parents got all the money.
I do think there should be protections though for not putting kids in online videos like public youtube, tik tok and other crap like that.
There's no reason to expose your kids to public social media. That's just child abuse.
This is a shock to me, that part of the internet is just something that I never see. My mind is now blown that YT will allow that type of content but in any other video you can't swear and any talk about sexualities or sex health/sex ed is heavily suppressed.
This has been my go to platform for entertainment as I just don't watch traditional TV and I rarely use streaming services, YT is making me hate this platform.
Mommybloggers make a _lot_ of money. Acknowledging that sex exists scares credit card companies. Just follow the money and everything will make sense.
@@orngjce223 Silence any bad language and talk of sex/sexuality but exploitation of children is okay. I don't care what sponsors or credit card companies may think, there is a clear right and wrong.
I'd argue that famlly blogger children are worse than child actors. There are paper trails with child actors and it's clear just how much money the parents are getting and using for their children. With family bloggers, everything gets laundered by the parents and no body knows just how much the children are owed.
Nah, Hollywood is filled with vile predators targeting children. Atleast the kids are relatively safe at home under their parents supervision.
Our (small) kids don’t know what social media is, they don’t have phones (other kids in kindergarten have phones with ticktock and tvs in their bedrooms! …it’s insane). They obviously know technology, but only use them together with us. On the other hand they know the woods here around like the the back of their hands, know the difference ant species and their hills here and can distinguish the bird calls. They ride bicycles and can swim and dive. We just handle it the way WE would like to grow up, no more, no less. And yes, on a long vacation drive they get a tablet to watch sesame street (offline, without ads) or fireman sam (which i dislike, but the other kids in kindergarten watch it, too) when the games and painting gets boring. But it’s the exception. And the best part: we had some rainy days 2 weeks ago, and i asked the little one if she wanted to watch TV and eat an apple. She obviously wanted the apple…but not the TV, and we assembled a (silly) board game from a cereal box instead, and played it. I hope we can keep it this way for a bit longer, and when the inevitable happens and they get un contact with social media, we need to have a talk about it…
honestly, thats what i hope for when i have kids,
This made me remember a girl from school that had a baby like in 2021... Every single day posting two or three things about her baby, sharing the baby life... The mother stuff...
Dude, people has the right to NOT know about your life, you don't have to share every single detail about your life... Next time people see you and you say "oh, this X thing happened" the only answer someone could say is " yeah, everyone on internet knows about every detail; thanks for over sharing your private life".
I’ve always felt very uncomfortable with family vloggers. Glad you have your head in the right place on this one.
Absolutely!! These kids were never given the choice. And totally agree that one or more of them should sue the parents
The children yearn for the mines. Who are you to deprive them?
This "kids sue parents" already happened once here in Hungary around a popular children's book (published around 2006-9). The author made stories about her kids and even included pictures of them at the end of each book. Needless to say, the kids who sued won easily and the books are really hard to come by nowadays. Tho I don't really know of any laws that were put in place to stop this happening again.
We went very far in the other direction with our kid. We don't have any social media, and we're very careful about who we share photos with, narrowed down to immediate family. I'll happily show friends photos and videos on my phone IRL, but I don't ever send them electronically without censoring the face with an emoji. This is partly because you can't control distribution once it's on the internet, and because we don't want them going through any sort of face recognition. Once she's 18 she can make her own decisions on this.
Yea having your family in your "business" videos from time to time isnt the same as your family being the business.
I’m so glad this is getting attention. Parents sharing their kids most private moments and turning them into their own advertising piggy banks is one of the most grotesque things that’s come from social media
I left facebook years ago and I didn't put any information about my first kid on social media. It's to a point where I'm meeting people I haven't seen in years that are like "Wait you have a kid now?"
wait you have a kid now?
I'm actually glad to see that Linus and Yvonne are keeping their kids private.
Reminds me of what happened to Gary Coleman from Different Strokes in the 80s. He never had a penny from all the years he did the show. He even had cameos on Buck Rogers. He ended his life dirt broke working in a mall as a security and passed away a few years back. And don't forget the girl who was his adopted sister. She died of a drug overdose in a trailer on someones driveway. Kids never made a penny for all the movies and shows they did until lawsuits started happening
Mad respect dude, your kids are pretty much "extras" in videos only because it's an episode where you're doing something in your house. That posting about pubescent times is only allowed on film not in general posts as "content."
I've been talking about this for years. I don't think photos of children should even be allowed on social media. These kids are having their entire lives documented by parents. Photos of them in the bath, on the potty, every one of their life milestones is documented on the public Internet. These kids never gave their consent. It's horrible and I completely feel for them.
Even back in like 2009, I was seeing FB posts of people whoring out their kids online for likes and/or shares. e.g. "Well take them to Disney World if we get over 250 likes" I thought it was disgusting back then even
Even if the kids get a fair portion of the income, that won't stop this from happening. The parents won't be like "oh no I only get $5.3 million instead of $8 million, I guess I won't make a family vlog channel"
Everyone trying to social media influence need to cease existing. Social media doesn’t make anyone important or meaningful
Great content and point!
The only way social media parenting becomes less popular is people actually grow a brain and quit giving a crap about what other people are doing with their lives just think NO Karens getting into peoples' business. I personally dont care about 99.9% of celebs .. I would rather meet real people hell I would hang with the dudes in the LTT fab shop and play with the big toys or help the Rudan Brothers in Canada over Kim Kar on a beach somewhere
It all started with Reality TV, I couldn't give 2 shits about celeb drama or reality shows but most of western society does.
Lawsuits move faster than the deeply ingrained instinct for social validation
It's not just vloggers, kids were/are overshared in general. My wife and I shared some on social media when our kids were little but stopped about 10 years ago. Just didn't feel comfortable putting their image out there. There will be fallout for sure.
Looking at child images in the first place is cringe
no more kids on camera with their knees on the edge of the brand new tv laid out on the floor for unpacking, it must be stopped
Sadly it will take that lawsuit, I'm sure... and it NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
The worst scum are the parents who 'prank' their kids for clicks. Some people don't deserve to have children.
It reminds me of that woman who was recently done for Child abuse while running a parental vlog.
I don't understand why people would want to share their intimate family moments with the world. But I also don't understand why people interact contentless media. I blame the viewers just as much as the parents.
one of the Duggar kids would be the ideal ones to go after the money made by the parents filming and sharing every moment of a kid's life but so far none have gotten far enough out of the cult they are part of to try.
imagine watching The X-Files and noticing little Linus Tech Tip eating a sandwich in the background. i would first assume hallucination
This reminds me of those big youtube channels with tens of millions of subscribers: generating LOTS of revenue just by capturing their toddlers playing with toys (and the parents making money off of it).
I love how nobody is talking about the elephant in the room. Who is the main audience demographic for these “family vlogging” channels? Especially little girls? PDF FILES!
Grandparents also sharing social media photos of grandkids.
"They're mine until they're 18" is such a psychotic take. No, dude, children are not slaves, or pets, or household items. You don't own them. They are people, and we decided you can't own people, remember? I mean, the US had a whole war over it and everything.
Kids are people, people have rights, and while you have the responsibility to make sure they make it to 18 healthy and as functional members of society, you as a parent don't have a lot of "rights". Your kids do. There are a lot of limits to what you can do to your kids - you can't kill them, in most civilized countries you can beat them, can't keep them from getting an education, you're not allowed to starve them or force them to take drugs… The list is long.
Kids need protections from abusive parents. Using your kids for social media clout or whatever can absolutely be considered a form of abuse. They are too young to consent.
WHAT??? Linus was on X-Files?? That's awesome! I'm gonna go find that episode if I can. I loved that show.
Shocking that kids having their entire childhood monetized didn't like it.
Luke getting distracted by a butterfly is the best thing I've seen this year
A kid will never be able to sue their parents for this after all they need their parents' approval to have anything officially (like a bank accounts) before they are considered adult (18+ here).
Yes the idea is that they sue after turning 18
I've said it before and I'll say it again, there are people who despite having kids really shouldn't have kids. Whether it being they aren't mentally mature enough, really not the caring type or they do things like this. IMO the whole idea of being successful of "have a house, a few kids etc" needs to stop, because I truly feel sorry for these kids that have to go through this BS.
I must be living under a rock as I didn't even know this was a thing. Then again I don't really use social media.
If a child is in a youtube video for a significant amount of time (except for educational or for short film videos), that video should not be allowed to be monetized, full stop. In fact it should just be a criminal offence to monetize your children on social media (there is nothing legally in place to protect children from being exploited on youtube).
I believe Illinois legislature had/has introduced a bill about the kid's needing to be compensated for appearances in digital content. I could see an amendment to California's coogan bill to include digital content. The way you talked British Columbia or Canada as a whole as a similar law that may see an amendment to include include digital content. This makes me wonder what's my locality on this.
Update: There's nothing for my state. So it will take someone successfully suing their parents or state legislature to find a way to tax it.
Fully agree with Linus on this one, Kids appear in video? (IF they are willing!) they get paid, and Paid Fairly, not less than an adult would get paid but the same amount. Because its the same Job, On Camera Talent, hosting a Show or Acting as adults are equally doing alongside should result in the Exact same pay as the other Cast.
Those parents have an easy excuse of using this money that the children created for food, toys, holidays and similar that they received. Pretty much how Linus said he and his dad went to eat somewhere with the money they got.
What a coincidence. Yesterday I was disgusted by what I saw about children's exploitation on UA-cam. On my personal account I don't see such things but yesterday I was doing some research on UA-cam to see how thumbnails work, so I was in incognito mode. Man, I saw dozens and dozens of videos with suspicious and borderline clickbait thumbnails with children, some of those videos had hundreds of millions of views.
This should be banned period because unless it's regulated, parents are going to abuse that and the limit between acting (in a movie i.e) and the parents exposing their children's personal life will disappear.
Couldn't agree more.....the amount of children I see on Instagram being what look's like being "pimped" out by their parents is unbelievable scary and then you look at the comment section...it's terrifying and you begin to fear for a child you don't know and ask are they even safe at home. I have a friend who was recently stalked by a mentally unstable man, who was able to work out where she lived just by the background from videos on tiktok. Its doesn't take much if your seriously committed about stalking someone to find out where they live, if your that way inclined.
It's crazy to think the menace you could be to society if you were so inclined. Like there's already a bunch of skills I have that could be misused. and I bet plenty of other people. The most you see of this is crimes of oppurtunity. People typically won't steal but if you leave a laptop unattended on a table. you gave the least amount of resistance possible.
It's still also a criminal issue to exploit minors, but would The FBI even bother? "Mommy vlogging" is so trendy that women would cry witch hunt. I've publicly shamed a couple of stand-up comedians for basing tours on their 5 or more children. That's about as bad in terms of bullying potential.
$2.7M dollars or whatever the calculation would be...
PLUS INTEREST.
4:39 That's just compensation for their work. They should 10X that amount for taking away their childhood and also as a warning to other parents to think twice if they were planning to go down the same road with their kids
Yeah, it solves the slave labor part, but it doesn't solve the child labor part.
Damn it Linus what episode of x files.
I still want to know what episode of the X-Files he was on!
s2 ep10
Legit, the level to which people post about their children’s lives online is just not ok in the least. I don’t understand the kind of person who would post such private things about their children all the time, it’s really disgusting.
Neah... life is hard and not always fair. Instead of money the child gets a life lesson.
Which is?
As a parent it’s your responsibility to do everything you can to protect your children. Putting them online can be extremely dangerous, you have no idea the intentions of the people you’re posting for. I think the best thing to do is to just keep pictures of your kids and family between your family and friends by text and not putting up photos of them online because why does someone that isn’t important enough to have your phone number needing to see your kids? It’s your free will to parent as your please but why do strangers need to know anything about your family? These “family accounts” , “mommy daughter accounts” whatever you want to call them are playing with fire because they’re posting their family online to make money and get brand deals with the number of followers they accumulate and it’s at the expense of their children’s privacy. Let kids be kids and go have fun and enjoy their childhood, forcing them to talk, dance or do whatever in front of a camera because you want followers and recognition is simply not right. Enjoy the beautiful family that God has blessed you with and don’t do anything to jeopardize it.
Atleast they didn't put cameras in you
I’m old school man. Almost 30. I don’t post my kid. I just don’t.
I don't even post anything about myself online. I don't care to have everyone knowing what I'm doing. nor would i care for people to know what my hypothetical future children are doing. not to mention who the F*ck cares about some random wealthy people's lives. Like the value from your most "Similar" content the smartifying of your house. It provides value in seeing someone else spend money on something cool that I cannot.
I'm fine with people posting pics or vids of their kids on social media but NOT in the way it's said is being done in this video.
"regulate vlogging"
You got a license for that .mp4?
Ok, which episode was it? IMDb doesn't know.
😢
People have been talking about this for a few years now
About time
The difference is if the children are the content vs if the children happen to appear in some content.
It should be fucking illegal for parents to use their kids in any promotional materials of any capacity - and if caught, should be separated from the child as part of child protection services
Luke cardboard body fits perfecty during 1:24
Go away.... Choppa is the reason I need to be on my phone while I drive or listen to random Language songs in the car cause I can't put songs for kids in a playlist or in the Background. How the hell does that help anyone
Can't watch with an ad on the screen. Bummer.
how is it different from kids working in farms for free in agriculture based societies?
Its not and both are bad