Travis Haley & John Lovell Discuss Blackwater, Najaf and the #1 Attribute of a Warrior
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2024
- John Lovell sits down with the incomparable Travis Haley of Haley Strategic to discuss the 20th anniversary Najaf gunfight, leadership conation and where the country's gone wrong.
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Always nice to see Garand Thumbs dad in a video.
Dang it. I thought I had an original comment, but nope, you beat me to it 😂
All hail the Clone Father!
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No shit. Good to know. And I can see it now, lol
Made my day
John telling Siri to go pound sand is great😅
"Freedom is created by living free." Thank you for that powerful motivation.
“Pain is mandatory. Suffering is optional.”
Rarely listen to podcasts as of late. Yet, Travis Haley + John Lovell was a must listen. Well done, thank you.
Grand Thumb is so lucky to have such a cool dad. This is two of my most favorite people to listen to. I wish I had role models like this when I was younger.
Really that's his dad. G
Very crazy to think that it's been 20 years since I was in Iraq.
I remember getting the radio call to gear up because some Blackwater contractors had been ambushed in Fallujah, burnt alive, and strung up on the bridge, and we had to go secure and recover the bodies.
I remember having Al-Sadr dead-to-rights, hiding in the mosque, being told to stand-down.
I also remember returning a few months later and finding out that the U.S. was working with him.
It's weird to have such disdain for a place which has largely shaped who you are as a man today.
Semper Fidelis, brothers.
Cpl, USMC
2002 - 2007
Iraq 2004 & 2005
Damn, it HAS been 20 years since my first tour. I don't remember everytime I was told "Don't shoot" but one of the ones that sticks out to me is the first time we got hit with an IED. Outskirts of Sadr City at night, spotted a dude on a minaret with AK, binocs, and radio set. Explained the situation to my platoon sergeant in the truck with me, and asked if I could smoke the guy. "Not unless he's shooting at us." 15 minutes later when we had turned around and headed back down the road(Combat Engineers doing route clearance) we got hit with our first IED. Dude wasn't on the minaret anymore.
Those events piss me off more than the IEDs I got hit with later on. More even than when we lost comrades and even my team leader. Another dude I DID get to shoot turned out to be a civvie who made a mistake. Fuckin hell, what a shitshow.
Its the people you fought against, and the people you worked for that was the problem...Semper Gumby...stay flexible.
Having been in Fallujah as part of 3/4’s assault into the city, and then returning as combat replacement to Najaf with 1/4 , after the militia was destroyed at the mosque, I find this statement questionable.
1. No one had Sadr “dead to rights”. He was holed up in the Mosque with 1/4 and the rest of the MEU queuing up to assault the mosque and the parking garage when that pilot dropped the JDAM on the parking garage and destroyed their center of gravity. This ended the hostilities. And the MEU commander, Col Haslam, allegedly tried to court Marshall the pilot. That Pilot saved countless lives as the entire place was daisy rigged to blow.
What set Sadr off was when CAAT destroyed his security detail 3 weeks prior when they stupidly attacked CAAT when they drove by his house. And there was the utter destruction of the Ag University.
2. Damage payments were made to the local population in response to the Iranians offering to give Sadr $5 million to restart the militia after he surrendered. The US wasted money and paid out 5 to 1 over the Iranians. Sadr di-died out of there to Sadr City. He was still wanted and targeted. Side note, I have pictures of his abandoned house. We were not working with him and actively worked with Sistani to limit Sadrs power.
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Me: "I remember having Al-Sadr dead-to-rights, hiding in the mosque, being told to stand-down."
You: "I find this statement questionable."
Also you: "He was holed up in the mosque with 1/4... queuing up to assault the mosque... when that pilot dropped the JDAM... This ended the hostilities."
If you're going to try to counter what I said, you should probably actually say something counter to what I said.
You repeated exactly what I said, only with more words.
Good job.
As for the U.S. working with al-Sadr, when I returned with RCT-8, in early 2005, he was on the "No Target List" and had told the Mahdi Militia not to target U.S. forces. Furthermore, he attended meetings with the "State Department" and there were reports of him being made an OGA asset. We were told, in no uncertain terms, that we were not allowed to target him with the context that if we killed/captured him, we'd cause a sectarian war, which we were still attempting to avoid.
So, great job repeating what I said, only with more words, while claiming what WE said to be "questionable." You really showed me! LOL
I will agree that the US was strange bedfellows with Al-Sadr after 2004. He won 30+ seats in the government and proved himself a capable statesman. So we HAD to sit at the table with him. He never changed his spots toward the US and was frequently fighting US forces in Baghdad and Basra in 2006.
As far as him being an asset, he has always been outspoken and counter to US policy. I can’t see him working for the US.
Having him dead to rights- you don’t make a 3rd martyr out of the same family. He knew that and used it to walk away and gain power.
You are correct about the targeting after 2004 up to 2006. 2006 he started again and went into self exile to avoid k/c.
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John, Thanks for having Travis on. I do not know him personally, but since the Magpul days; I have found inspiration from him. People ask me why I have a dragonfly decal in my car window. I just smile and say it’s a reminder to be better.
God bless you Travis Haley! True patriot down to the core 🇺🇲🇺🇲
John, your response to the introvert question makes a ton of sense. I got the vibe that you weren't really a social talker when we all piled in a truck for lunch during Pistol 1 in Camden, 2018. I'm generally the same, but of course my buddy and I were excited to pick your brain. haha it was cool of you to humor us.
I'd also like to share, I recently got to pass on some of your instruction to my sisters as they put their first rounds on paper. It was a huge honor to introduce them to firearms, and I credit much of my confidence and articulation to a basis of understanding that I took from your class. I got to explain, demonstrate, and coach them each through safe handling, mechanics, grip, posture, sight picture, trigger press, reloading, and a little bit of mental processing and awareness. As we walked through those concepts, I got to see the understanding you invested in me being sewn into new soil. Appreciate you, brother!
Wow. Two of my most respected warriors on UA-cam and in real life. God bless you both!
When I was teaching Paramedics/ EMTs, Nurses Aides, Nurses, I found that people learn one of three ways. By sight ( show them how to do the task), by speech (or by written word), or by hands on demonstration ( have them do the task while walking them through it, step-by- step. The key is to recognize how each individual learns, then use that method for each individual. They would read the material on their own time ( about 25% would get it), then I would read it aloud while simultaneously demonstrating ( about 50% more would pick it up), then have them perform the task and I would take them through it 1on 1 ( for those that were still having difficulties), and by the end of class, I had everyone able to perform it properly.
Thank you for recognizing that people learn differently. It's so true.
Holy crap. I knew Travis went into the mindset but wow the depth that he goes is amazing
Thanks John and Travis. I'm gonna watch this again!
Great conversation! One thing i would say is there is no "your truth" there is only THE Truth.
I’m only half way through the interview, but so much has resonated with me. After 20+ years of firearms training my fellow cops, I have retired and transitioned to teaching civilians at a local gun store/range for fun. It has been such a wonderful transition and such a learning experience. I completely understood both of your feelings about being “on stage” while teaching with absolute passion during a class, but retreating into quiet time with myself and thoroughly enjoying it. After my career, I have become very introverted and enjoy being in the solitude of my 21-acre forest away from people. I can “perform” when necessary, but enjoy being alone with my family or just myself and my tractor. Thanks for giving me a sense of being normal, John and Travis.
Thanks John! You have exposed Travis as a kindred Warrior Poet. This was a very mature and inspiring dialog.
This is much better than TK as a guest. I was worried for a while. Awesome interview, John.
This, right here, is the American Spirit in the flesh. May God bless you both.
“Thinkers before shooters.”
Heard that somewhere….
You forgot to mention Travis is garand thumb’s dad.
He's flannel grandaddy?
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Travis didn't have the experience as Thumb , but Travis Hailey is a very squared away dude. Recon and Blackwater team leader
Travis as far as your son joining, I agreed whole heartedly that we need kids that come from solid family values to join and change the current military culture. My son joined the Marines a year ago and I want him to be part of the change!
THIS CHAT IS PURE GOLD
Loved seeing Travis Haley on! #DieFree #ThinkersBeforeShooters #HaleyStrategic
Great conversation gentlemen. I am proud to have been born into this nation where I can call men like you my countrymen.
God bless you both and the rest of our American family.
Wow! Two of the best at the same time! You need to do this again John.
Based Travis Haley over tim anyday. great interview
Quite a different talk than the one with Tim Kennedy, and a much better one. I don't even follow or have any desire to train in a Haley class but I respect him for this and the work he is doing
That’s because Tim Kennedy is a tool and a half.
I never really thought of myself as an introvert. I was a musician for many years and always had a ton of people around me constantly. But I have always really enjoyed being alone with my thoughts, and now in my older years, that’s more true than ever. Great observation fellas. This is all great information.
Always great guest and podcast John. Thank you very much for your time and energy!! 💯👊❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
After The Bridge podcast took that long break I was itching for more. Re listening to old episodes. Then bam they dropped a new one. And now this. Good stuff.
Great discussion John, thanks!
Thank you Travis for your service and great commitment to defense of freedom
Thank you ,John and Travis.
Siri go pound sand 🤣 John is such a crotchety old man and I love it.
Hi Jon,
I’ve lost track of how many of your videos I’ve watched… I’ve read your book and I have to tell you - every time I watch and listen to videos like these I feel like I’ve wasted my life, chosen the wrong path, I’ve lived a good life and I have a great family a wife who I love, two daughters I am infinitely proud of. But as a young man, looking for an escape from college, I wanted to join the Marines. I had my mind made up, and I let my mind be changed and was talked out of it. it was during the first Persian Gulf war in the early 90s, my brother was in the Air Force and I was going to be a Marine.
I feel like I should’ve done much more with my life than I have, I’m thankful for men like you and Travis, and for the countless others that have made the ultimate sacrifice. Being in my early 50s now it’s far too late for me to do anything. I don’t want to be just a guy, I want to be a good guy. Reading your book changed me, I want you to know that. Someday, I hope to meet you in person at one of your classes and shake your, hand, look you in the eye and say thank you.
He's the rral deal, respect. Great combo, these two, great interview. Magpul dynamics and travis haley changed the landscape at the time
That's what originally taught me. Thank you travis for getting me through my tactical infancy and helping set my philosophy around it
Thank you John and Travis for your insight and perspective. I personally greatly appreciate it. Godspeed.
BOOM ! Enough said ! Two great patriots !
The 2 men who define my warrior poet ideology!
This was a great podcast. 100% inline with all of the comment from both poet and Haley. Ie, the dragonfly was my first sticker years ago!
Excellent show. One of your best guests.
Amazing conversation
Great stuff! John I just finished the Warrior Poet Way. It really helps me reflect on my life past, present, and future.
Thank you John for having this great guest on and the fantastic discussion you and Mr. Haley had! Your discussion has given me a lot of clarity on how to handle what is going on now and what possibly could happen in the near future. Thanks again, God bless and continue to fight and pray for Out country!🇺🇸🙏❤️🇺🇸🙏❤️🇺🇸🙏❤️
John thank you for your service as well for defense of our freedom
Phenomenal interview. Thank you for sharing. 🇺🇲
Thanks John.
Great show guys!
God bless you both!
Great show. Such a great, down to earth conversation by 2 well-seasoned voices. No chest pounding, just a calm and strait forward talk.
Thank you both! Much needed!
This is my second day in a row watching your 1+ hour interviews. Both guests have provided excellent input and food for thought. While yesterday's discussion with the owner of T Rex Tactical was more U.S gun/self-defense industry centered, this one was deeper into the national and international civil/political/military arenas. I greatly enjoyed the past 90 minutes and thank you both for your excellent presentations.
These two gentlemen are arguably the best instructors in the business and it not only because their gun handling expertise its also their ability to share their knowledge on so many other topics as well as their unwillingness to compromise their interigity.
I believe that certain men are born with certain leadership skills, but to be a great leader requires learning and these two gentlemen are perfect examples of leaders who have both naturally gifted and learned.
I had to watch this a few times... Guys Like this give me hope for future America
Lessons learned!! We ignore those every single day in this country. The After Action Hot Wash is as important as the event itself!
Outstanding talk gentlemen.
I loved the comment, “quite professional vs silent professional. We must speak truth! Covering or lightening the impact of others blunders is wrong and leads to future mistakes. Love you John and Travis! Keep up the good fight
Really appreciate both you guys.
The collaboration we needed!
Thanks for providing a window into the thoughts and minds of two men's men.
Great interview. Thanks for posting.
Talk about community being key. Make sure to invite the single dudes out they could be a saving grace in a hypothetical where you have a family. Every family can use a “ranch hand” until that single guy gets his family.
Thank you, both, for sharing your thoughts with us.
Loved the conversations , really made me think once again.
This was a great watch to help me better understand myself, thank you!
2 of my favorites together. Love it.
Thank you, Mr Haley
At Fort Lewis in 1983, a team from the President's One Hundred came and showed us young Infantrymen how to shoot with irons out past 600 meters. Spectacular Insight. We could do anything after that.
Outstanding Word!
Great content John! Really appreciate you and all you stand for. Enjoyed listening to you at the Cincinnati Convention last week!
John, love ya guys!
Fantastic episode. Thanks guys for your time,and knowledge.
To both of you thank you for this. Been kind of down in pit lately and just listening to this getting ready today really helps
Keep the great vids coming John we love to see it !!
I really enjoyed those one John!! Thank you for what you do and help us grow as men!
Thanks for what you guys are doing. To God be the Glory! Keep it up
Incredible pod!
Thanks guys... For this video... It makes me feel less alone...
I have found myself lately feeling like that I need to "unleash" a part that I have kept and still keep locked away... But I am currently allowing my mind to "play" mental wargames as part of my preparation for surviving this...
Thank you guys for everything!
That was Simply AWESOME!!!!! 🙏
I put this on to run in the background and wound up stopping my project and just listening. Great conversation! Thanks!
Great show and great content guys! Thank you for all you do!
Wow. So much truth spoken here. thank you guys for what you're doing.
Two of my favorite guys to listen to.
Excellent. Thanks
Great ways of thinking, thanks mate
Excellent video John.!
Great Interview!
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!!!. Great show John.
Two of my idols right here
Great content from two of the greatest men i can think of as examples in our lifetime
I love the wisdom Imbued by these men. They're impressive.
My allegiance is to God. I believe the US Constitution is inspired of God. But my master is Christ. No any man, even if I am temporarily subject to him.
Well done, gentlemen
I didn't get into guns because of Magoul Dynamics. I got into training because of them. I still have those videos. I have the art of dynamic handgun, Carbine I &II, Shotgun, Long range gun. I think it's all of them.
To this day, not based on the knowledge only and I know things have changed. It's still the best video when it comes to production wise in the industry. Super informative and fun to watch. It would be awesome to come out with another series with Travis and Costa one more time. Like an update version.
Eric princes’s account for the square shooting was quite eye opening from only ever hearing the mainstream media narrative.
We need a Part 2 for sure
Damn , Travis is one of the very few OGs , I learned a lot from him back when I was barely getting into this , he was a fast azzz perfect form .
Great video ! Two good men ! We need more like you !
Fantastic interview!
Awesome!