What gives me chills is the chief officer screaming everyone out and running for the air horns. And even after the horns stop, you hear the one officer saying - "I got two in there." We've all got to look after the guy next to us, but it's command who has to look out for EVERYONE. Right decision to just pull back all man power and rethink the situation.
The county I was in did the same thing with the air horn. Except when they called an all out all engines were required to blow!! Very erie feeling being on a fire and hearing 6 engines blowing there air horns at once. Sends a chill down your spine every time!
Here in NJ we have all apparatus do a 20 second blast at the same time. All pump panels should have a button for the air horn. It is one on the eriest things to hear.
@MsAutobodyman A flashover occurs when ambient air filled with particles, i.e. smoke, gets superheated by the fire eventually igniting the particles causing the room/porch to "flash"over. A backdraft occurs when you ad oxygen to an smaller oxygen-deprived fire allowing it to grow substantially larger. I hope that answered your question. Feel free to ad anything guys if I missed it.
When you see thick black smoke boiling out of the structure like that, that's the fire's way of telling you that it's about to kick your ass. The IC on that fire was not doing his job there.
Dain Bramaged honesty it’s every firefighter, doesn’t have to be the IC if you can see the evidence showing itself. But yea he should have caught that. It’s a tough job and sometimes our best intentions doesn’t work well with fire
Agreed, that much smoke pushing that hard, combined with the jackass smashing out every window he could find, letting air into a fire that they haven’t apparently found yet, it’s a damn shame they let it get this far. You ought to have a crapload of water going in the rear side, to the left of Smashy McSmasherson, and in that front door. Get those temps down, throw off the fire’s groove.
my station does that even if where training, it may not even happen every training but they do it to keep you ready.. for anything even though im a junior every time i hear it, i know to just back out its kinda creepy cuz they blew it when i was on the third floor one time in training lol. was not expecting it...
that has been around for along time..if ur any kinda of firemen and have been trained right...u know what that horn blowing means,,,,,,,,east coast firemen...17 yrs in...
things will and can happen despite our best intentions and best training we are all a family a brotherhood so stop haten on eachother its discusting to see how people treat eachother in todays world so much hate... grow up !
Defensive attack recommended here - unless persons reported. Jets from a close range are good, plenty of water on the fire needed. In WYFRS - 3 blasts on the whistle indicates evacutation. This will also be relayed to BA teams via radio. This is a flashover situation, not a backdraft. The neutral plane is very low in this clip - hence the smoke rolling out the front door so much. Good work by the driver and the teams working on this non-salvageable property. Brotherly love from across the pond
@dfkjyhnoetyujh The air horn as always been the signs to pull out. As been used for ever and is known to all dept's. I'm not sure your point, it is the "Known" sign of trouble and to pull out are get off the roof. I'm pretty sure every fire dept use's and knows the meaning (speaking for the US anyhow). However it should not be the only warning, setting off the interior teams radios along with it works best. We might not hear the rigs when deep inside. Stay safe.
Sorta. Flashover occurs when everything inside the room reaches it's ignition temperature and all the gases inside the room ignite at once and becomes fully involved. It doesn't always explode out windows, but most likely anyone inside will not survive, The average Firefighter's turnout gear will fail after 3.8 seconds in a flashover.
Had one call, legit first trek into burning building, knocking down 2nd division, hear horns blowing, and in any particular pattern, it the horns are blowing, get the hell out of dodge. Turns out it was our chief who ordered the horns, not command. Great choice, we didn’t hear the evac tones or order, but the horns do the trick.
Can’t they blast SOS in Morse? I feel like almost anyone can recognize that in any situation. I feel like if they just heard a horn they might think backups arriving lol obviously not a fireman here
@dfkjyhnoetyujh actually that is pretty much the universal evac my dept uses it the second command says evacuate the building every piece of apparatus on scene blows the siren like that until the horn starts fading
What gives me chills is the chief officer screaming everyone out and running for the air horns. And even after the horns stop, you hear the one officer saying - "I got two in there."
We've all got to look after the guy next to us, but it's command who has to look out for EVERYONE. Right decision to just pull back all man power and rethink the situation.
The county I was in did the same thing with the air horn. Except when they called an all out all engines were required to blow!! Very erie feeling being on a fire and hearing 6 engines blowing there air horns at once. Sends a chill down your spine every time!
In my area, EVERY SINGLE RIG equipped with an air horn blows the horn when the decision is made to pull everyone back
Here in NJ we have all apparatus do a 20 second blast at the same time. All pump panels should have a button for the air horn. It is one on the eriest things to hear.
the chills go over me when ever i hear it lol. when i hear it i just freeze...
Am I on the only one here who knew at about 10 seconds into this video that this was about to flashover? Good job on the evacuation.
@MsAutobodyman A flashover occurs when ambient air filled with particles, i.e. smoke, gets superheated by the fire eventually igniting the particles causing the room/porch to "flash"over. A backdraft occurs when you ad oxygen to an smaller oxygen-deprived fire allowing it to grow substantially larger. I hope that answered your question. Feel free to ad anything guys if I missed it.
That so far was one of the biggest fires I had ever seen.
When you see thick black smoke boiling out of the structure like that, that's the fire's way of telling you that it's about to kick your ass. The IC on that fire was not doing his job there.
Dain Bramaged honesty it’s every firefighter, doesn’t have to be the IC if you can see the evidence showing itself. But yea he should have caught that. It’s a tough job and sometimes our best intentions doesn’t work well with fire
Agreed, that much smoke pushing that hard, combined with the jackass smashing out every window he could find, letting air into a fire that they haven’t apparently found yet, it’s a damn shame they let it get this far. You ought to have a crapload of water going in the rear side, to the left of Smashy McSmasherson, and in that front door. Get those temps down, throw off the fire’s groove.
holy crap flash over! that must have been scary.
my station does that even if where training, it may not even happen every training but they do it to keep you ready.. for anything even though im a junior every time i hear it, i know to just back out its kinda creepy cuz they blew it when i was on the third floor one time in training lol. was not expecting it...
that has been around for along time..if ur any kinda of firemen and have been trained right...u know what that horn blowing means,,,,,,,,east coast firemen...17 yrs in...
nice job hittin the horn. watchin this gave me the creeps. hope i never have to deal with flashover..
Gave me the creeps too, hope I never hear it. Especially if I am indie
things will and can happen despite our best intentions and best training we are all a family a brotherhood so stop haten on eachother its discusting to see how people treat eachother in todays world so much hate... grow up !
Defensive attack recommended here - unless persons reported. Jets from a close range are good, plenty of water on the fire needed. In WYFRS - 3 blasts on the whistle indicates evacutation. This will also be relayed to BA teams via radio.
This is a flashover situation, not a backdraft. The neutral plane is very low in this clip - hence the smoke rolling out the front door so much.
Good work by the driver and the teams working on this non-salvageable property.
Brotherly love from across the pond
@dfkjyhnoetyujh The air horn as always been the signs to pull out. As been used for ever and is known to all dept's. I'm not sure your point, it is the "Known" sign of trouble and to pull out are get off the roof. I'm pretty sure every fire dept use's and knows the meaning (speaking for the US anyhow). However it should not be the only warning, setting off the interior teams radios along with it works best. We might not hear the rigs when deep inside.
Stay safe.
As far as i know all fire dept. do that, or have a similar way of alerting fireman inside. My fathers one, and thats what that do.
This is a very good idea. God bless.
in buffalo ny area we do federal q's of all trucks on scene for evac.
thankfully as a driver and sometimes the one in command on sceen i have never had to give an order or received on for evacuation
probably one of the best training videos
For what Not to do. These guys were PLAYING fire man. You hit this with WATER, not Walk into it! This was childish stupidity not fire fighting.
the horn should be done all the time when you finsh driving school that is in the class you cant hear that well so the horn is a key to get out fast
Hear the 3 gotta leave. Good job boys
Sorta. Flashover occurs when everything inside the room reaches it's ignition temperature and all the gases inside the room ignite at once and becomes fully involved. It doesn't always explode out windows, but most likely anyone inside will not survive, The average Firefighter's turnout gear will fail after 3.8 seconds in a flashover.
I knowtest that this fire truck has a Detroit Diesel 6V92 turbo engine!
@wolfec So do we!
0:33 and the first horn made me laugh seeing all firefighter get scared and fall...
everyone got out ok?
Neal Matthews bro that shit is hot af, but yea my dumbass would probably stumble and fall too lol
@TheVincentVega1982 I was thinking the same thing its great and would of been a lot better if it was done before the biulding flashed
most of the dpts including mine in my county, do three blasts by every piece of apparatus counter clockwise
easy to say it in hindsight.
wether its 3 long or 3 short bursts if you any type of smart firefighter you know what it means and what to do.
Had one call, legit first trek into burning building, knocking down 2nd division, hear horns blowing, and in any particular pattern, it the horns are blowing, get the hell out of dodge. Turns out it was our chief who ordered the horns, not command. Great choice, we didn’t hear the evac tones or order, but the horns do the trick.
when i took my ff1 they taught us long horn blastes
Im not even a firefighter and knew EXACTLY what was going to happen just from seeing what the smoke was doing
Does anyone know what year did the when the air horn came to play during the evacuation part
@dfkjyhnoetyujh that is SOP for 2 blows everyone out. The problem is is that when you are in a burning structure all sounds and sight is gone.
@dfkjyhnoetyujh They all use the airhorns as the universal "get out" alert to the firefighters inside.
Can’t they blast SOS in Morse? I feel like almost anyone can recognize that in any situation. I feel like if they just heard a horn they might think backups arriving lol obviously not a fireman here
@dfkjyhnoetyujh actually that is pretty much the universal evac my dept uses it the second command says evacuate the building every piece of apparatus on scene blows the siren like that until the horn starts fading
@firemanwwr Looks like it
@dfkjyhnoetyujh we already do... it's a widely used signal...not a new idea.
no dis-respect or anything, firefighters are the best but the guy at 00:33 made me laugh really bad :D
WHAT HORN??!!
@rdm258 24/7 365
OIC Was a muppet
@dfkjyhnoetyujh my dept started that this year well 2010 we did a drill with it and its great but we just hold the rope until the airtank is drained
gtfo button ftw
Clueless!!