Now this is the video I have been waiting for Initially I hated the looks of the Sportster s, I went to a dealer to look at it in person and my good it’s beautiful, photos and videos do not do this bike justice I have been comparing these bikes on paper (being in Australia the scout 101 is still months away) Thank you for the video and for me, the sportster s takes the win and probably the money in my wallet
Lmfao glad I could help. I will say this if you only have one bike total the 101 is probably a better choice as it’s slightly more comfortable for longer rides and more customizable as far as bags and touring commodities. The as is faster and more fun in my opinion. But I have a comfortable longer range bike that I ride as well so I can look past the comfort and focus more on the fun of the sportster s
@@NostalgicMotorcycles That’s something to keep in mind. I generally don’t do long rides, so the time I need to I was just going to tough it out on the sportster s. In Australia the sportster s is $24,000 and the 101 is $28,000 ride away. Is the scout worth the extra $4000 in your mind?
Comfort and features yes. It’s a better all around motorcycle. If I could only one motorcycle and these are my 2 options I’m picking the scout. Having multiple bikes I’m taking the sportster. The sportster S is faster which to me is more important.
Sportster has quite hard suspension, feels awesome to ride though. It’s a unique look. Would have to ride the 101 before making a decision. Bought the Nightster Special for my wife which was $7500 less than the Indian 23 scout. Nightster Special is a fantastic bike, highly recommend checking it out. Great vid mate, from Aus 🇦🇺
Incorrect. Indian is owned by Polaris, but does their own design, engineering and construction. Calling a Lamborghini a VW doesn't change that fact that they aren't actually built or designed by VW. Spreading false information. I live 1 hour away from the Indian factory. Polaris does not design the Indain machines, they are simple the umbrella parent company.
101 would be my preferred cruiser of these two. if more juice is needed, I would go for an FTR. Having said that- the Sportster S is a VERY cool bike for the right person.
I've got the FTR Carbon and I test rode the 101 last week. I was really impressed at the torque on it! But to me it's almost too similar to the FTR to trade it so I'm thinking about the Sport Chief or Super Chief.
As far as engine and power delivery ya. They are both Indian 1200 cc big twins it’s very similar obviously completely different ergos but I get it. And chiefs won’t be as fast. Awesome for cruising but a lot slower.
Anything is possible. It’s not the best tool for the job. But 3-4 hours for sure is doable. I personally think this bike would be pretty u comfortable after about 300 miles but the bike can do it. And with bags a taller screen and maybe a different seat that’s changed my answer as well. As far as starting. Many have started on a scout. It’s easy to handle very balanced easy inputs. My answer is yes if you’re not scared of the power. Some people require a lot less power you just have to know yourself. But this bikes is smaller easy to move around even with the weight it has 👌🏽👌🏽
Greetings! great video. Good job. My only issue with the Indian engine is that it requires valve clearance checks & adjustments, much better looks than the Sportster S but the HD has more HP and more Torque.
Sportster S is my pick. It’s very fast, and if you dial in suspension correctly. It’s not bad at all. With that said, brakes is an issue, the 101 superior in that aspect. I am a 101 fan also, but the power and torque of HD Sportser s is uncanny
Fulling ? Filling like fuel ? The scout almost the sportster no. Sporty gets terrible range maybe 150miles if it’s 90% highway. I usually fill up around 110 during city driving. The scout can go 170-180 maybe 200 all highway. That bike has more range for sure.
I chose the Sportster S. I had the previous Scout. I love both bikes, but I am a bit sportier. Lifted the rear and about to replace the shock absorbers in the back. Changed the front tyre to 150 Matzler. It's getting a bit sportier now. :)
Oh man does that new front tire make it fall more into corners ? I feel I have to guide it all the way down and out of turns. Does that change with the new front tire ?
@NostalgicMotorcycles a 140 with a trick can be put on the rim. For Sportier handling I would do front fork lift too, throw away both tires and replace them with the ones on the FTR sport. Since there's Adaptive ride height technology available I don't know why HD hasn't gone for that option; imagine that engine and chassis with a 42-43 lean angle, easy tip in and longer suspension but with the aquat down at low speed....it would be a killer
I ride a twin cam fat boy so I do like some Harleys. But I can say after test riding the sportster s, it's horrible. Quick yes. But brutally uncomfortable and controls not ergonomically placed such as the signal light switch as you need to extend your thumb awkwardly to get to it. I felt like I was always on the verge of falling forward over the sportster and was very uncomfortable on my neck, and back. I haven't ridden the 101 scout yet but I have ridden a previous model scout classic and i can say that the scout was so much more comfortable and better ergonomics. However, the scout at the time felt cheaper and more plastic like. The harley feels a little more premium feeling, but overall, the scout feels much better and more thought out. I'd take the scout hands down over the sportster s and I'm a harley guy
Clearly, the Scout is a cruiser. My question is what is that Harley thinghy? is that a naked bike, a euro café rig? Does it even know what it wants to be?
Lmao it’s fast it wants to be fast! But seriously regardless of lucks. It’s a cruiser rides and feels it too Honeslty. Doesn’t look that way but it’s pretty much there.
@ I can’t buy it’s a cruiser. Maybe a sort of scrambler? I don’t think this is the Scout’s competitor. You should probably measure this Harley thing against the Indian FTR 1200. IMO.
It’s not a naked bike. No where close ftr at all and these bikes are a completely different category. The ftr is tall with pulled back foot rest. It’s a true naked. Engine to engine ya maybe. But literally nothing else. I’ve ridden both I own one and made a video about the other. The ftr outside of engine has nothing to compare to the sportster s. At all. Like nothing. The sportster s is a cruiser regardless of what you think from picture. Go see one in person. Sit on it and 100% it’ll make sense to you. This bike is short with a low seat. The only thing that makes it not look “cruiser” is the fact that the tank is low and the bike has a flat appearance across the top. But where your butt is. Where your hands are. Where your feet are. Is 100% cruiser. It’s not even cafe because cafe bikes have mids or rear controls and the seat is so far back (almost above the back tire) where you have to lean forward in a sport bike position. That’s not the case for the SS. What you see visually (which I fully understand) and what you feel when sitting on it. Is not the same thing.
The sportster has better specs but it's not really a traditional cruiser so I'd compare to an FTR but regardless I'd pick the 101 it looks fantastic and has nice components Edit: Different class entirely but the low rider s is in my opinion the best sport cruiser you can buy.
Ehhh the I agree with you in that it’s not a traditional cruiser. But there is no comparison between the ftr and this outside of the actual engines. Which would be a fun comparison. The ftr is an upright naked. Very different. When you sit on one it’s a different planet for sure.
i think u forgot something.. u get litel bitt more woke on the harley!! xD I love the indian and i love that one of the founder is swedish !!! GREETING FROM SWEDEN !! great video youst finded u and i will look more of your stuff.. ! sorry for my bad french :P
Sportster s keep breaking down and they never finished the left side of the harley engine. Breakes arnt as good as the Indian the harley is fun but not finished or reliable. Indian smashed harley out of the park with 101. And Harleys response is now they going to move overseas.......?
Well owning the Harley and having about 10k miles on it. I can’t agree with you. So if your own is be I’d love to hear your personal issues and not what you read in the internet. I will say the left side of the engine does look unfinished as it doesn’t have the same bronze pop as the other side that’s spot on. Brakes are better on the Indian but it’s not as much as you think. They are marginally better not substantially. The real feel difference is as higher speeds the 101 brakes feel as if they grab more faster but sub 80mph they feel dam near the same.
Im a 100% Harley guy. The Sportster S looks good. But the 101 looks better. Better looks cant get me to buy it tho. Its not a Harley so for that reason it automatically loses. I have a 13 year old Vrod and it also has a 60° 1250cc. It has 9hp more and 5lb-ft tq more than the scout. The Scout is just a Slower version of Harleys Vrod and Sportsters S.
I’m also a Harley fan boy…I also have a v-rod with a full exhaust and tune making about 130hp…. but I gotta say the wind protection, 6 speed and cruise control do sound damn nice The Indian badge is tough to swallow tho… I’m torn 😅
@tannercroft5024 I have pipes,power commander and tune. The launch is so fucking gnarly I litterally feel my blood getting pulled to the back of my body from the g force. I don't know. You can always buy a windshield for your vrod. As far as 6th gear goes,me personally I wouldn't use it. Top speed in 6th gear would be too much. I never use 6th gear on my 2019 FXDR 114. I can't do anything other than Harley. Especially Indian. 🤢🤮. Rocket 3 was close but ultimately bought my FXDR instead. I can't stray away from Harley.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles I couldn't live with the guilt. I've never ridden any cruisers except fir Harleys. I've never even sat on another cruiser besides Harleys. Can't do it.
@@davidcottingham3834 lmfaooo that’s never going to happen. Companies don’t lower pricing outside of competition. Harley isnt know for being cheap. They are known for being expensive.
Fun claims but we have yet to see 😜 sportster s has more ponies and in it too. Proven. It’ll get 115/90 at the wheel. Not sure the 101 will get that. I do think it’ll clear 100 at the wheels my guess is 100/85tq at the wheel after exhaust and tune.
@NostalgicMotorcycles We have to remember a bb scout 1300cc can put 120/90 to the wheel. This scout is a 1250cc stock. The bike de-reg'd like a m***er. It's brand new, and llyods have not got his hands on it. Just wait for it.
Not sure what a bb scout is ? But my goal with the sporty will be 150/90 to the wheels. Thanks for watching its helping me get there. The pan am can do it so can this. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Not exactly true. The 101 is more comfortable in general but the sportster isn’t bad actually. It’s not a 500 miles a day bike but it’s not uncomfortable. Sportster has equal adjustment as the 101 and can be soften substantially but does come stiff from the factory. Tire does negatively effect the turn in but people have gone with non oem and that goes away with a proper front tire (even being big) the peak on the oem tire causes this issue.
Sportster s is not a cruiser or sport cruiser, is more of a street bike with some cruiser elements, that said, we ahould compare it with the cb family, mt or even ninjas. If we do so, ih boy how trashy it will be. I am not an indian fanboy, but harley is just out of the picture.
The sportster S shares nothing in common with naked bikes, nothing. Aside power in the case of mt09 but plenty of bikes make 120hp that doesn’t mean they need to be compared. But I find it funny you mentioned these and the ninja because it’s not as trashy as you think. It’s faster than all the Mt and CB except for the 1000’s because duhh. And you mentioned. A ninja. I have one. A zx6 which I raced the sporty and this ninja because it won’t be trashy and it’s basically as fast as a 600. See proof below. ua-cam.com/video/IXZsVue3U58/v-deo.htmlsi=efRZFiLc4iyGK5kZ
@@NostalgicMotorcycles top speed does not count, where the naked bikes or the sport city bikes like the mts or the cbrs put their power? From middle to high rpms, where sportster is lacking. Top speed is not a measure of compare anymore. We should see accelaration, throttle response, rpms response, even customisation if we want to take it a step futher ( meaning remaping, performance only). Weaight to hp rario, still harley lacks. They tried to touch that category and failed, indian lacks too compared to the EU-JAPS but at least they made a pure sport cruiser.
Lmfao I don’t think you actually understand. Again the ss is not a naked. Or a bike to compare to those. The sportster S is as fast as a 600, has the midrange and torque of all those naked and more 90 ftlbs is more torque than most 1000s. Way more than the average 50ish on a parallel twin. And 2 lbs over 500. There are nakeds very close to that mark. Especially with screens and luggage with none of them bring. It’s a respectable weight. It’s not 6-700lbs like average cruisers. Hell 50lbs short of most 600 is very very very solid for American bikes. It’s lacking in handling compared to nakeds and super sports. Yes but I said it’s not compareable to a naked from the get go. 100% if you want a sport bike the Harley and Indian are not your bike. Period. Don’t compare. But each of these will out perform standard cruisers in all “sport aspects”. They are not sport bikes. They are not meant to turn a 600 squid into a cruiser guy. They are meant to give cruiser guys a faster better performing bike. And that they do well. The fault is in the comparison. Not the bike.
I never thought I'd say this but I'd take the Indian. I think it looks WAY better and with the tech, it's a no brainer. 10HP increase isn't going to do much and the better ride in the corners make it the clear winner. I've been a Harley guy since I bought my first in 2008, Softail Crossbones (FLSTSB) and while I've loved that bike, I simply cannot stand supporting a company who's gone as woke as Harley has. Motorcycles should NOT be political tools but unfortunately Harley has brought that crap into the discussion. SO my money will 100% not be going to Harley anymore. I know I know, they'll be broken hearted to not get my hundreds to thousands of dollars a year that I spend on merch, repairs, parts, and more so I'm under no delusions that I'll impact the bottom line. Mine is a small, small voice but it's the only one I have and I'm screaming as loud as I can. I doubt the idiots on HD board or executive team can even hear me but they need to change course ASAP while there might be time to save the company.....otherwise, we're sadly witnessing the final days of HD
Lmfao something I discovered Harley is owned by private equity ! They know what they are doing for sure. The company will be profitable and live. It may change but it’ll live.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles - First of all you're only partially correct. Harley is a publicly traded stock so anyone can buy Harley stock. So it's not a private company....which is what is implied by saying it's owned by private equity. However you are correct that it's owned by large companies that are privately held or that are public but the vast majority of shares are owned by like minded companies. BUT you simply cannot say Harley is owned by private equity cuz that's factually false or incomplete. To say that Harley will be fine is also not accurate. Disney stocks after going HARD into the woke culture has never recovered, same with BudLight and Target. All of these companies have been severely impacted by their woke policies but softened their stances long ago but the damage is done. Time will tell if Harley does the same. In the wake of a tighter economy, Harley picked the worse time to have this revealed. When stock prices tumble public companies have trouble raising money - something which Harley was already experiencing prior to the economy hammering the every day consumer. Their problems are multiplying exponentially and the longer they wait to change, the worse it'll be. Like I said, I will be VERY surprised if Harley survives this. I honestly do not think they will.
Only time will tell my friend. I will say this. Harley has been around for an extraordinary amount of years. I can say longer than you and I have been alive. When I say Harley will survive looking at a 1/4 year just isn’t meaningful. Same with these other companies we are talking almost and some more 100 year companies like a bad year isn’t going to knock them out trust me. If Harley has a down 10 year maybe we can start talking about them going by the wayside but one quarter in a market where all sticks are falling is really meaningless. Same with bud and Disney. Market will go down eventually correct and when the total economy gets back on ride these companies will rise as well now how much is yet to be determined.
As long as the H-D doesn't throw Engine codes, stall, not start, transmission Gremlins, non-start issues, especially that 2021 that was a shit-show of problems, and as long as H-D stays woke..I'll Take the Polaris.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles That’s 2-3% (alleged) more than I would accept getting a 21-22 of this model is just pure stupidity unless you enjoy check engine lights and warranty trips to the dealer. And now, the 2025 models are ALL going to be built in Thailand, so eventually, some monkey making 12-cents an hour will be assembling Rev-Max engines , and with that you think this Nazi CEO will lower the prices of these bike now that they’re going to be built in that shithole country ,??, doubtful. 👎👎
Wow 🤦🏽♂️. I’m not sure about that one. I would suggest changing your expectations slightly. Perfection on a bike isn’t going to be had when you make thousands of bikes. Warranties exist because they are not all 100% perfect. All vehicles fall under this it’s been a lot of years since companies made something as bad as a Pontiac fiero and that’s what it sounds like you think this is, when it’s not. that’s not remotely close to true.
I’m a loyal Harley guy but really like the look of the 101 better. That’s a first for me👍
It is dam good looking isn’t it !
Now this is the video I have been waiting for
Initially I hated the looks of the Sportster s, I went to a dealer to look at it in person and my good it’s beautiful, photos and videos do not do this bike justice
I have been comparing these bikes on paper (being in Australia the scout 101 is still months away)
Thank you for the video and for me, the sportster s takes the win and probably the money in my wallet
Lmfao glad I could help. I will say this if you only have one bike total the 101 is probably a better choice as it’s slightly more comfortable for longer rides and more customizable as far as bags and touring commodities. The as is faster and more fun in my opinion. But I have a comfortable longer range bike that I ride as well so I can look past the comfort and focus more on the fun of the sportster s
@@NostalgicMotorcycles
That’s something to keep in mind. I generally don’t do long rides, so the time I need to I was just going to tough it out on the sportster s. In Australia the sportster s is $24,000 and the 101 is $28,000 ride away. Is the scout worth the extra $4000 in your mind?
Comfort and features yes. It’s a better all around motorcycle. If I could only one motorcycle and these are my 2 options I’m picking the scout. Having multiple bikes I’m taking the sportster.
The sportster S is faster which to me is more important.
We had indian demo day last Saturday and I rode the 2025 101 and man!! It's a beautiful bike
Isn’t it. ! It really does stand out and grabs attention. It’s hard not to look at
Indian 101 all day!
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 it’s. A dam good bike !
Sportster has quite hard suspension, feels awesome to ride though. It’s a unique look. Would have to ride the 101 before making a decision. Bought the Nightster Special for my wife which was $7500 less than the Indian 23 scout. Nightster Special is a fantastic bike, highly recommend checking it out. Great vid mate, from Aus 🇦🇺
Thank you thank you. I will soon ride one. I know I will !
Nobody ever shows the clutch side of the revolution max engines. There’s a reason for this, it’s unfinished and looks cheap.
I do my best not to show the kickstand side of the bikes as it’s a weird angle since it’ll be leaning down. That’s my reason but. You are correct lol
Indian is not a manufacturer, it’s a brand. The Scout is a Polaris product. That said, I like the looks of the Scout better.
It is a good lookin bike !
Incorrect. Indian is owned by Polaris, but does their own design, engineering and construction. Calling a Lamborghini a VW doesn't change that fact that they aren't actually built or designed by VW.
Spreading false information. I live 1 hour away from the Indian factory. Polaris does not design the Indain machines, they are simple the umbrella parent company.
@@jordanjoestar8839 yeah? Who’s the CEO of Indian? What exchange are they traded on?
Ohhh that must be cool ! Get to see any top secret stuff ?
🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
101 would be my preferred cruiser of these two. if more juice is needed, I would go for an FTR. Having said that- the Sportster S is a VERY cool bike for the right person.
The 101 is the better all a rounder for sure !
I will say I’m not sure the ftr is the same class as these 2 but it is faster.
I've got the FTR Carbon and I test rode the 101 last week. I was really impressed at the torque on it! But to me it's almost too similar to the FTR to trade it so I'm thinking about the Sport Chief or Super Chief.
As far as engine and power delivery ya. They are both Indian 1200 cc big twins it’s very similar obviously completely different ergos but I get it.
And chiefs won’t be as fast. Awesome for cruising but a lot slower.
The Indian looks so much better , the Harley looks, terrible , sorry HD lovers ,but i am sure it is a good bike . Ride safe !
No worries bro I fully understand. I would say the sportster s is polarizing. One way or the other not many in between.
When you ride the 101 holler back.
To me it’s a clear winner. 6’1” 270
The 101 might be a better fit. More adjustable for yourself as well.
Do both scrape pegs when leaning?
I didn’t but they both can fairly easily.
The Sportster has a car radiator hanging on the front of it and makes it look like $hit lol so...
Interesting. The radiator in the 101 is actually larger 🤣🤣🤣
On the 101 scout, what is the gas mileage on a full tank of gas. How far does it get you?
I rode it rather aggressively and still got 40+ Owner is getting almost 200 (170-180) miles to tank.
@NostalgicMotorcycles is it possible to ride state to state like a touring bike? Could this be the first bike for someone?
Anything is possible. It’s not the best tool for the job. But 3-4 hours for sure is doable. I personally think this bike would be pretty u comfortable after about 300 miles but the bike can do it. And with bags a taller screen and maybe a different seat that’s changed my answer as well.
As far as starting. Many have started on a scout. It’s easy to handle very balanced easy inputs. My answer is yes if you’re not scared of the power. Some people require a lot less power you just have to know yourself. But this bikes is smaller easy to move around even with the weight it has 👌🏽👌🏽
Dude, you didn't show the left side of the bikes. The Sportster is just ugly.
Not intentionally I actually didn’t move them hahaha. And I rarely show kickstand side since it’s angled down lol
Did you use sport mode on the 101? also i love my scout 101.
Only sport mode lol. I personally don't think rider modes are anything special and I always go to the fastest less restrictive mode.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles i just hope they come out with a better seat.
They already do. Oem accessories lol
Greetings! great video. Good job. My only issue with the Indian engine is that it requires valve clearance checks & adjustments, much better looks than the Sportster S but the HD has more HP and more Torque.
Ya I see that but valve maintenance it’s something that exists for most vehicles since for ever lol. 🤷🏽♂️. Annoying to pay for for sure but expected.
I'll take the Scout so my engine don't blow up!
lmao its not that serious !!
What about the weight to power ratio?
I don’t know the actual number but the sportster weighs less and has more power so it will have more.
If they’re both same price definitely the scout 101
It is a more well rounded bike if that’s the only one in the stable !
Sportster S is my pick. It’s very fast, and if you dial in suspension correctly. It’s not bad at all. With that said, brakes is an issue, the 101 superior in that aspect. I am a 101 fan also, but the power and torque of HD Sportser s is uncanny
It’s a beast for sure !!
Can you take both of them them to a 3 to 4 hour trip without fulling
Fulling ? Filling like fuel ?
The scout almost the sportster no. Sporty gets terrible range maybe 150miles if it’s 90% highway. I usually fill up around 110 during city driving.
The scout can go 170-180 maybe 200 all highway. That bike has more range for sure.
I chose the Sportster S. I had the previous Scout. I love both bikes, but I am a bit sportier. Lifted the rear and about to replace the shock absorbers in the back. Changed the front tyre to 150 Matzler. It's getting a bit sportier now. :)
Oh man does that new front tire make it fall more into corners ? I feel I have to guide it all the way down and out of turns. Does that change with the new front tire ?
@NostalgicMotorcycles it's 15 not 16 and better shaped. It's much easier to steer but it's not a 120 tyre though
Ya true but that’s good to hear. I don’t know if there is a world where a 120 fits this bike lmfaoo. That’s for nightsters
@NostalgicMotorcycles a 140 with a trick can be put on the rim. For Sportier handling I would do front fork lift too, throw away both tires and replace them with the ones on the FTR sport. Since there's Adaptive ride height technology available I don't know why HD hasn't gone for that option; imagine that engine and chassis with a 42-43 lean angle, easy tip in and longer suspension but with the aquat down at low speed....it would be a killer
I know. It will actually be effective. It would have to be the pan am engine but those are seriously respectable numbers !
I ride a twin cam fat boy so I do like some Harleys. But I can say after test riding the sportster s, it's horrible. Quick yes. But brutally uncomfortable and controls not ergonomically placed such as the signal light switch as you need to extend your thumb awkwardly to get to it. I felt like I was always on the verge of falling forward over the sportster and was very uncomfortable on my neck, and back. I haven't ridden the 101 scout yet but I have ridden a previous model scout classic and i can say that the scout was so much more comfortable and better ergonomics. However, the scout at the time felt cheaper and more plastic like. The harley feels a little more premium feeling, but overall, the scout feels much better and more thought out. I'd take the scout hands down over the sportster s and I'm a harley guy
I understand. For a single bike it is better for sure. I have a few and prefer the speed. Since I have another bike for flat out comfort
The Indian Scout 101 is so much better overall.
I don’t disagree but I love speed more hahaha
Clearly, the Scout is a cruiser. My question is what is that Harley thinghy? is that a naked bike, a euro café rig? Does it even know what it wants to be?
Lmao it’s fast it wants to be fast! But seriously regardless of lucks. It’s a cruiser rides and feels it too Honeslty. Doesn’t look that way but it’s pretty much there.
@ I can’t buy it’s a cruiser. Maybe a sort of scrambler? I don’t think this is the Scout’s competitor. You should probably measure this Harley thing against the Indian FTR 1200. IMO.
It’s not a naked bike. No where close ftr at all and these bikes are a completely different category.
The ftr is tall with pulled back foot rest. It’s a true naked. Engine to engine ya maybe. But literally nothing else. I’ve ridden both I own one and made a video about the other. The ftr outside of engine has nothing to compare to the sportster s. At all. Like nothing.
The sportster s is a cruiser regardless of what you think from picture. Go see one in person. Sit on it and 100% it’ll make sense to you. This bike is short with a low seat. The only thing that makes it not look “cruiser” is the fact that the tank is low and the bike has a flat appearance across the top. But where your butt is. Where your hands are. Where your feet are. Is 100% cruiser.
It’s not even cafe because cafe bikes have mids or rear controls and the seat is so far back (almost above the back tire) where you have to lean forward in a sport bike position. That’s not the case for the SS. What you see visually (which I fully understand) and what you feel when sitting on it. Is not the same thing.
The sportster has better specs but it's not really a traditional cruiser so I'd compare to an FTR but regardless I'd pick the 101 it looks fantastic and has nice components
Edit: Different class entirely but the low rider s is in my opinion the best sport cruiser you can buy.
Ehhh the I agree with you in that it’s not a traditional cruiser. But there is no comparison between the ftr and this outside of the actual engines. Which would be a fun comparison.
The ftr is an upright naked. Very different. When you sit on one it’s a different planet for sure.
Indian is a much better looking bike
🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️.
Indian's first for me.....Better looks & dynamics.
I can see that ! 👌🏽👌🏽 it’s a great bike !
The win goes to the Scout 101% of any day!
Lmfao !! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@NostalgicMotorcycles Glad I made you laugh! Great video, thank you, subscribe after watching it. Greetings from Melbourne, Australia. 👍😎
Thank you !! Seriously. I appreciate it !
Indian all day long looks better sounds better
lol i want to hear both with exhausts !!
saying this is a polaris is like saying to a bugatti owner ohh nice volkswagen lol stfu 🤣🤣
That’s a great analogy but it’s close to Audi than Bugatti lmfao. But I get it !
i think u forgot something.. u get litel bitt more woke on the harley!! xD I love the indian and i love that one of the founder is swedish !!! GREETING FROM SWEDEN !! great video youst finded u and i will look more of your stuff.. ! sorry for my bad french :P
Lmfao thank you thank you !!
I will say that happened after I recorded this 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Sportster s keep breaking down and they never finished the left side of the harley engine.
Breakes arnt as good as the Indian the harley is fun but not finished or reliable.
Indian smashed harley out of the park with 101.
And Harleys response is now they going to move overseas.......?
Well owning the Harley and having about 10k miles on it. I can’t agree with you. So if your own is be I’d love to hear your personal issues and not what you read in the internet.
I will say the left side of the engine does look unfinished as it doesn’t have the same bronze pop as the other side that’s spot on.
Brakes are better on the Indian but it’s not as much as you think. They are marginally better not substantially. The real feel difference is as higher speeds the 101 brakes feel as if they grab more faster but sub 80mph they feel dam near the same.
What are you talking about! The scout has less Horsepower,less torque annd weighs more 😂😂😂😂. It automatically loses.
Riding in a straight line I agree. The 101 does handle a little better.
Being that the 101 is a 2025, what do you know about the HD 2025 quality ?
Haven’t released the lineup yet so no one does
Harley all day
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 my man lol
Indian. Any Indian over any Harley any day.
That’s one perspective not sure everyone will agree
Im a 100% Harley guy. The Sportster S looks good. But the 101 looks better. Better looks cant get me to buy it tho. Its not a Harley so for that reason it automatically loses.
I have a 13 year old Vrod and it also has a 60° 1250cc. It has 9hp more and 5lb-ft tq more than the scout. The Scout is just a Slower version of Harleys Vrod and Sportsters S.
It does make less power that’s for sure.
I’m also a Harley fan boy…I also have a v-rod with a full exhaust and tune making about 130hp…. but I gotta say the wind protection, 6 speed and cruise control do sound damn nice
The Indian badge is tough to swallow tho… I’m torn 😅
Ride one when no one is looking 😂😂😂
@tannercroft5024 I have pipes,power commander and tune. The launch is so fucking gnarly I litterally feel my blood getting pulled to the back of my body from the g force. I don't know. You can always buy a windshield for your vrod. As far as 6th gear goes,me personally I wouldn't use it. Top speed in 6th gear would be too much. I never use 6th gear on my 2019 FXDR 114.
I can't do anything other than Harley. Especially Indian. 🤢🤮. Rocket 3 was close but ultimately bought my FXDR instead. I can't stray away from Harley.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles I couldn't live with the guilt. I've never ridden any cruisers except fir Harleys. I've never even sat on another cruiser besides Harleys. Can't do it.
If HD moves to Thailand, I think they need to lower the price
@@davidcottingham3834 lmfaooo that’s never going to happen. Companies don’t lower pricing outside of competition. Harley isnt know for being cheap. They are known for being expensive.
The indian is detuned from factory. Open the exhaust, better intake and a llyods tune could easily get 13 more hp out the bike😊
Fun claims but we have yet to see 😜 sportster s has more ponies and in it too. Proven. It’ll get 115/90 at the wheel. Not sure the 101 will get that. I do think it’ll clear 100 at the wheels my guess is 100/85tq at the wheel after exhaust and tune.
@NostalgicMotorcycles We have to remember a bb scout 1300cc can put 120/90 to the wheel. This scout is a 1250cc stock. The bike de-reg'd like a m***er. It's brand new, and llyods have not got his hands on it. Just wait for it.
Not sure what a bb scout is ?
But my goal with the sporty will be 150/90 to the wheels. Thanks for watching its helping me get there. The pan am can do it so can this. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@NostalgicMotorcycles you a cool man bro. Let's go.
Thank you. I appreciate it !
Indian.❤❤❤
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I think the nightster would have been a better comparison.
More neck and neck but i don’t have one lol
Why? It has a smaller motor.
Ergonomically it’s a lot closer. Nightster and 101 would be very close in seating position and handling. Actually dam near the same power too
@@tedcity5861 their power to weight ratio is really close. The nightster is much lighter than that 101. Would be an interesting matchup.
Agreed. I need to get my hands on them
Indian 101 !!
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼. It’s a good bike man !
No, the sportster is ugly. It looks like someone bloated it with air. So ugly.
Lmfao 🤣 I’ll take it.
Should be a 8 sec video lol
😂😂😂
101 wins
By tally count it does. But in my book speed wins 🙌🙌🤣🤣🤣. Also don’t need the most well rounded bike as I have more than 1
Harley has terrible ergos, and the suspension/hardware doesnt come close to the Indian. Especially with the collasal front tire that hates to turn in.
Not exactly true. The 101 is more comfortable in general but the sportster isn’t bad actually. It’s not a 500 miles a day bike but it’s not uncomfortable. Sportster has equal adjustment as the 101 and can be soften substantially but does come stiff from the factory.
Tire does negatively effect the turn in but people have gone with non oem and that goes away with a proper front tire (even being big) the peak on the oem tire causes this issue.
Sportster s is not a cruiser or sport cruiser, is more of a street bike with some cruiser elements, that said, we ahould compare it with the cb family, mt or even ninjas. If we do so, ih boy how trashy it will be. I am not an indian fanboy, but harley is just out of the picture.
The sportster S shares nothing in common with naked bikes, nothing. Aside power in the case of mt09 but plenty of bikes make 120hp that doesn’t mean they need to be compared. But I find it funny you mentioned these and the ninja because it’s not as trashy as you think. It’s faster than all the Mt and CB except for the 1000’s because duhh. And you mentioned. A ninja. I have one. A zx6 which I raced the sporty and this ninja because it won’t be trashy and it’s basically as fast as a 600.
See proof below.
ua-cam.com/video/IXZsVue3U58/v-deo.htmlsi=efRZFiLc4iyGK5kZ
@@NostalgicMotorcycles top speed does not count, where the naked bikes or the sport city bikes like the mts or the cbrs put their power? From middle to high rpms, where sportster is lacking. Top speed is not a measure of compare anymore. We should see accelaration, throttle response, rpms response, even customisation if we want to take it a step futher ( meaning remaping, performance only). Weaight to hp rario, still harley lacks. They tried to touch that category and failed, indian lacks too compared to the EU-JAPS but at least they made a pure sport cruiser.
Lmfao I don’t think you actually understand. Again the ss is not a naked. Or a bike to compare to those. The sportster S is as fast as a 600, has the midrange and torque of all those naked and more 90 ftlbs is more torque than most 1000s. Way more than the average 50ish on a parallel twin. And 2 lbs over 500. There are nakeds very close to that mark. Especially with screens and luggage with none of them bring. It’s a respectable weight. It’s not 6-700lbs like average cruisers. Hell 50lbs short of most 600 is very very very solid for American bikes.
It’s lacking in handling compared to nakeds and super sports. Yes but I said it’s not compareable to a naked from the get go. 100% if you want a sport bike the Harley and Indian are not your bike. Period. Don’t compare. But each of these will out perform standard cruisers in all “sport aspects”. They are not sport bikes. They are not meant to turn a 600 squid into a cruiser guy. They are meant to give cruiser guys a faster better performing bike. And that they do well.
The fault is in the comparison. Not the bike.
I think the amount of zoomed in views of you head, take away from the video, I'd rather see the bikes.
Understood ! Throw in some B roll 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
*cough* Bonneville*cough*
I need to ride one I know !! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Indian!
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Sporty is absolutely hideous lmao....
Ouch. It’s not that bad !!!
Harley is done. Indian all the way.
Ahhhh man. Im not too sure about that. I know they both have more to come !
HD bike looks horrible...
@@yorchgaram5281 ouch it’s not that bad
I never thought I'd say this but I'd take the Indian. I think it looks WAY better and with the tech, it's a no brainer. 10HP increase isn't going to do much and the better ride in the corners make it the clear winner.
I've been a Harley guy since I bought my first in 2008, Softail Crossbones (FLSTSB) and while I've loved that bike, I simply cannot stand supporting a company who's gone as woke as Harley has. Motorcycles should NOT be political tools but unfortunately Harley has brought that crap into the discussion. SO my money will 100% not be going to Harley anymore. I know I know, they'll be broken hearted to not get my hundreds to thousands of dollars a year that I spend on merch, repairs, parts, and more so I'm under no delusions that I'll impact the bottom line. Mine is a small, small voice but it's the only one I have and I'm screaming as loud as I can. I doubt the idiots on HD board or executive team can even hear me but they need to change course ASAP while there might be time to save the company.....otherwise, we're sadly witnessing the final days of HD
Lmfao something I discovered Harley is owned by private equity ! They know what they are doing for sure. The company will be profitable and live. It may change but it’ll live.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles - First of all you're only partially correct. Harley is a publicly traded stock so anyone can buy Harley stock. So it's not a private company....which is what is implied by saying it's owned by private equity. However you are correct that it's owned by large companies that are privately held or that are public but the vast majority of shares are owned by like minded companies. BUT you simply cannot say Harley is owned by private equity cuz that's factually false or incomplete. To say that Harley will be fine is also not accurate. Disney stocks after going HARD into the woke culture has never recovered, same with BudLight and Target. All of these companies have been severely impacted by their woke policies but softened their stances long ago but the damage is done. Time will tell if Harley does the same. In the wake of a tighter economy, Harley picked the worse time to have this revealed. When stock prices tumble public companies have trouble raising money - something which Harley was already experiencing prior to the economy hammering the every day consumer. Their problems are multiplying exponentially and the longer they wait to change, the worse it'll be. Like I said, I will be VERY surprised if Harley survives this. I honestly do not think they will.
Only time will tell my friend. I will say this. Harley has been around for an extraordinary amount of years. I can say longer than you and I have been alive. When I say Harley will survive looking at a 1/4 year just isn’t meaningful. Same with these other companies we are talking almost and some more 100 year companies like a bad year isn’t going to knock them out trust me. If Harley has a down 10 year maybe we can start talking about them going by the wayside but one quarter in a market where all sticks are falling is really meaningless. Same with bud and Disney. Market will go down eventually correct and when the total economy gets back on ride these companies will rise as well now how much is yet to be determined.
HD over Native American motorcycles . 😊
Lmfao 🤣 that’s one way of looking at it !
As long as the H-D doesn't throw Engine codes, stall, not start, transmission Gremlins, non-start issues, especially that 2021 that was a shit-show of problems, and as long as H-D stays woke..I'll Take the Polaris.
🤣🤣🤣 it’s a good bike.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles
Not the 2021-22’s, Pure Dumpster Fire of Problems, it’s all over UA-cam 👎👎
I own the bike lmfao. “All over youtube” literally represents maybe 2-3% of the population. There are more videos of good info all over UA-cam.
@@NostalgicMotorcycles
That’s 2-3% (alleged) more than I would accept getting a 21-22 of this model is just pure stupidity unless you enjoy check engine lights and warranty trips to the dealer.
And now, the 2025 models are ALL going to be built in Thailand, so eventually, some monkey making 12-cents an hour will be assembling Rev-Max engines , and with that you think this Nazi CEO will lower the prices of these bike now that they’re going to be built in that shithole country ,??, doubtful. 👎👎
Wow 🤦🏽♂️. I’m not sure about that one. I would suggest changing your expectations slightly. Perfection on a bike isn’t going to be had when you make thousands of bikes. Warranties exist because they are not all 100% perfect. All vehicles fall under this it’s been a lot of years since companies made something as bad as a Pontiac fiero and that’s what it sounds like you think this is, when it’s not. that’s not remotely close to true.
Indian will never be as good as harley, they can keep trying but will never be on the same level
Ooo I would go look at this in person you might be surprised.
@Sam123QU29 Lol, have you tried an Indian like the host of this channel. He gives props to both manufacturers.
All bro lmfao I just love bikes
Lol😂
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I don't like either one.
No one asked you Graig!
Interesting what’s your preferred ride. Middle weight cruiser?
That’s funny !! But what do you think ?
Polaris vs Harley lol. Thats like who's the most masculine out of RuPaul vs Dylan Whats-his-name
Age old question with truly no best answer lol