7:40 You would use a square to place them square. like you have at 11:42 Or a 45* to set a part at 45*. Not everything needs to be jigged at 90* Even if you need something super precise you can still achieve this with setup tools rather than the actual location of the holes to go by. I think those angle buttons are threaded for you to buy the required bolts if you needed to bolt them in place. Someone else put a small drill type vise on their table simply by bolting on a plate that had the pins on it. He just dropped it in place for light duty clamping/cutting operations.
I'm a certified welder and to be perfectly honest this table is pretty good and I bought it for my house the top isn't perfectly flat but for most work that won't make a difference unless you're building something at Aerospace and even then it just barely doesn't pass
Im thinking keeping the table from getting to hot with direct heat helps with keeping it straight. Im about sold in this table, I like that it comes with this many attachments.
The fixtures and price are decent. The table’s shortcoming is the thickness of the table top. It’s susceptible to warping under prolonged heat. And, bends and marring is an issue when clamping force exceeds 100 ft lbs. Thanks for sharing.
Good and useful review. Regarding clamping the round tube between standoffs, I wouldn't do that as it would bend the tube down there, and make the ends go up.
I bought this table over a week ago, was supposed to be delivered yesterday, but still waiting… hope it’s not bent. Looking forward to set it up, I’ll post my findings
I’ve bought a fair number of things from Northern. They’re pretty good. All of these inexpensive tables use the exact same 9 gauge top. I have two from Grizzly. $139 plus about $18 shipping. Out of stock more than in stock. Neither table top was flat on the frame, which it comes attached to, except for the legs. Now, for the lack of flatness. Remove the tops from the frames, and the tops are pretty flat. The top frame isn’t welded flat. Using a good 4 foot level to measure, I ground the frame top flat. Then replaced the top and remeasured. After the grinding, the top was flat to well under 1/16” edge to edge and corner to corner, which is about as good as you can expect other than for a very expensive, thick, ground steel top. You know people, if we’re fabricating, welding, etc. we should be able to fix these problems. One of the problems with the tube adapters is that they’re not really intended for these thin tops. They’re intended for the standard 5/8” thick Stronghand tops. I can’t explain all of this in a post here. Unfortunately. I bought the rebel emp 215 too. I still have it, though I’m going to put it out for sale. Nothing wrong with it. It’s a great welder! But I needed TIG aluminum capabilities, so I bought the rebel emp 205 ac/dc model. I did get the spool gun with the 215, but while it’s great for a lot of work, for thin metal and the electronic chassis and other things I do too, it wasn’t suitable. I just found you, and I hope to see a lot more videos. Good luck.
I bought that same table and couldn’t figure out the hardware. The only thing i new how to use are the holding clamps.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i tried to figure out just like you did but didn’t get anywhere . Ived searched all over you tube and cant find a simple explanation what some of the hardware is for. And i went and bought another one.😂😂😂. Same instruction, got no where.
I have my own channel and been debating if to buy this table. I have materials to build my own but not looking to drilling 320 holes for my DIY table which will be larger.
great vid thanks your review was just what I needed to see. I bought it and so far its been great. and my package was good, table was really flat. yep good value Yep "its a good piece of steel with holes in it" thx
I thought the hole point of the fixture plate and clamps was that you don't have to bolt stuff to the table. is it perhaps just that they include cheap clamps and you can perhaps buy some better ones that just clamp and lever themselves into the holes? I think that the reason your V blocks have threads in them is in order to use them you stack them on the black stop blocks and then bolt them in from the bottom and the magnetic clamp looks like it has a hole in the middle that isn't threaded and it is there to prevent the head of the bolt from going through the hole?
It's still a good table, I've gotten a great deal of use out of it. However I wouldn't pay the current price tag. I think it's a good buy if you can get it for less than $200.
Have that table close to year now .mine was pretty flat no bent corners like I see lot on videos. I always go out help my carrier don’t know if it factory or shipping gets bent up. Any for $ you can’t beat it. I guess we could get them 20,30,40, grand tables but then I have wrap tarp around it and live there well kids gonna be cramped. U did good you’re gonna like it beats the ground or burning plywood.
I'm looking at getting this table! Great review brother! On the threaded v grove picks, can they possibly be put on the shaft of the clamp? Or I'm thinking maybe it's to somehow mount on top of the tubing your working on? That's all I could come up with.
To make it totally portable I wonder if you could attach a crossmember the length of the table and put it on a portable workmate using the vise feacture. The workmate folds for easy storage so when you're not using fold the workmate out of the way and store the top flat against a wall.
The princess auto is now over 300$ and no tools are included. The provided tools alone are worth a lot. I've ordered 2 of those tables from northern. 200$ each. With shipping they will be the price of 2 princess auto tables, but i get all the tools for free. Fixture table without tools is worthless.
You should have watched the Klutch welding fixture table video 1st before you made a review video ... Also Stronghand Tools " Fixture Point " table has several excellent videos ... Have had my table for several years works great, excellent bargain ...
Guys, I’m willing to bet that none of you have a $2k table. Unless you’re doing work on something that’s really heavy, or needs aerospace specs in flatness (for which there are tables that cost $5k, and up for 24x36), then these are fine. What most people don’t understand, is that when you’re welding, you don’t have to tighten a clamp down too hard. Just enough so that the pieces won’t move from the weld shrink, and that really doesn’t take much tightening. So these tables are fine for that. If you’re making so much money that you can afford an expensive table, then great. But for many welding pros, these tables are perfect. I’ve been welding for my own companies since 1973, and I can afford any table I want, but I choose to spend my money on other tools and equipment.
7:40 You would use a square to place them square. like you have at 11:42
Or a 45* to set a part at 45*. Not everything needs to be jigged at 90*
Even if you need something super precise you can still achieve this with setup tools rather than the actual location of the holes to go by.
I think those angle buttons are threaded for you to buy the required bolts if you needed to bolt them in place.
Someone else put a small drill type vise on their table simply by bolting on a plate that had the pins on it. He just dropped it in place for light duty clamping/cutting operations.
I'm a certified welder and to be perfectly honest this table is pretty good and I bought it for my house the top isn't perfectly flat but for most work that won't make a difference unless you're building something at Aerospace and even then it just barely doesn't pass
Im thinking keeping the table from getting to hot with direct heat helps with keeping it straight.
Im about sold in this table, I like that it comes with this many attachments.
The fixtures and price are decent. The table’s shortcoming is the thickness of the table top. It’s susceptible to warping under prolonged heat. And, bends and marring is an issue when clamping force exceeds 100 ft lbs. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the review video. I have that table but it came without instructions. I’m new at welding, so I needed help with the clamp systems
Good and useful review.
Regarding clamping the round tube between standoffs, I wouldn't do that as it would bend the tube down there, and make the ends go up.
Thanks for the review thinking of purchasing one big help with the decision
I really like mine. Had it over 6 months and still doing well. Best price for a decent table
I might have been tempted to buy this table, as I am pretty cheap. Your review makes it clear to stay away, so thanks for that.
I bought this table over a week ago, was supposed to be delivered yesterday, but still waiting… hope it’s not bent. Looking forward to set it up, I’ll post my findings
Update… I got it a couple weeks ago. Two corners bent, not too bad. Still works , but disappointed.
I’ve bought a fair number of things from Northern. They’re pretty good.
All of these inexpensive tables use the exact same 9 gauge top. I have two from Grizzly. $139 plus about $18 shipping. Out of stock more than in stock. Neither table top was flat on the frame, which it comes attached to, except for the legs. Now, for the lack of flatness. Remove the tops from the frames, and the tops are pretty flat. The top frame isn’t welded flat. Using a good 4 foot level to measure, I ground the frame top flat. Then replaced the top and remeasured. After the grinding, the top was flat to well under 1/16” edge to edge and corner to corner, which is about as good as you can expect other than for a very expensive, thick, ground steel top.
You know people, if we’re fabricating, welding, etc. we should be able to fix these problems.
One of the problems with the tube adapters is that they’re not really intended for these thin tops. They’re intended for the standard 5/8” thick Stronghand tops. I can’t explain all of this in a post here. Unfortunately.
I bought the rebel emp 215 too. I still have it, though I’m going to put it out for sale. Nothing wrong with it. It’s a great welder! But I needed TIG aluminum capabilities, so I bought the rebel emp 205 ac/dc model. I did get the spool gun with the 215, but while it’s great for a lot of work, for thin metal and the electronic chassis and other things I do too, it wasn’t suitable.
I just found you, and I hope to see a lot more videos. Good luck.
I bought that same table and couldn’t figure out the hardware. The only thing i new how to use are the holding clamps.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i tried to figure out just like you did but didn’t get anywhere . Ived searched all over you tube and cant find a simple explanation what some of the hardware is for. And i went and bought another one.😂😂😂. Same instruction, got no where.
I have my own channel and been debating if to buy this table. I have materials to build my own but not looking to drilling 320 holes for my DIY table which will be larger.
this was super helpful, thanks for taking the time on this video to explain the kit. As you said, the instructions in the box aren't that great
This is exactly what I’m looking for! Thanks for the review!
Nice table. I would like to have this as a template to drill out my own table. ???? Hmmm😮
great vid thanks your review was just what I needed to see. I bought it and so far its been great.
and my package was good, table was really flat.
yep good value
Yep "its a good piece of steel with holes in it"
thx
I thought the hole point of the fixture plate and clamps was that you don't have to bolt stuff to the table. is it perhaps just that they include cheap clamps and you can perhaps buy some better ones that just clamp and lever themselves into the holes? I think that the reason your V blocks have threads in them is in order to use them you stack them on the black stop blocks and then bolt them in from the bottom and the magnetic clamp looks like it has a hole in the middle that isn't threaded and it is there to prevent the head of the bolt from going through the hole?
Or they're just simple stock they bought from another company because it works and is cheap. Just happens to come threaded, ha
I've seen others where you don't thread a nut onto the clamp - it's a nice tight fit and just clamps down. Something is wrong here
You don’t need to use the nut when you tighten the handle down it puts torque on the shaft
I have had this table for a couple of years now. IMO... It is an excellent "Light Duty" fixture table for the price.
Like to hear your input on this one year later
It's still a good table, I've gotten a great deal of use out of it. However I wouldn't pay the current price tag. I think it's a good buy if you can get it for less than $200.
Have that table close to year now .mine was pretty flat no bent corners like I see lot on videos. I always go out help my carrier don’t know if it factory or shipping gets bent up. Any for $ you can’t beat it. I guess we could get them 20,30,40, grand tables but then I have wrap tarp around it and live there well kids gonna be cramped. U did good you’re gonna like it beats the ground or burning plywood.
"beats the ground or burning plywood" classic ;-)
I'm looking at getting this table! Great review brother! On the threaded v grove picks, can they possibly be put on the shaft of the clamp? Or I'm thinking maybe it's to somehow mount on top of the tubing your working on? That's all I could come up with.
To make it totally portable I wonder if you could attach a crossmember the length of the table and put it on a portable workmate using the vise feacture. The workmate folds for easy storage so when you're not using fold the workmate out of the way and store the top flat against a wall.
One of a few things Canadians don’t get screwed on. Exact same table at Princess Auto $158 Canadian = $127 US.
The princess auto is now over 300$ and no tools are included.
The provided tools alone are worth a lot.
I've ordered 2 of those tables from northern. 200$ each. With shipping they will be the price of 2 princess auto tables, but i get all the tools for free.
Fixture table without tools is worthless.
great video. have you had the chance to weld on the table?
Yes plenty. Works great
Thanks for the review..
Thanks for sharing! And info!🤙🏻
That bent corner is why it was 150.00 because going now is 289.00 in 2021? just saying! Great vid!!
I think 289 is a lot. 150 was fair but this seems to be priced worse now
Have to say northern tool is leaps and bounds above Harbor Freight.
a tip : watch movies at Flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies these days.
@Maximus Westley Definitely, have been watching on flixzone for years myself :)
Great review. Thanks for explaining all of the smaller pieces. I'm going to get one, too bad they're $290 now. 😮
Yes unfortunately I'm not sure it's worth it at that price point. I think 150 was fair
I have been looking at tables myself, for this price might as well go for weldtables certiflat.
@@trailandco Northern Tool ran a sale recently, I was able to get it for $215. Not too bad.
Ebay has similar tables at lower prices than northern and I'm sure it's all the same. I'm sure northern outsourced this with their name on it
Thanks for the review... The table is up to $250 now. ouch.
There are better accessories out there too that I think will work better than some that came with it.
Harbor Freight is not as bad as you say it and also northern is same it all made in China lol
You should have watched the Klutch welding fixture table video 1st before you made a review video ... Also Stronghand Tools " Fixture Point " table has several excellent videos ... Have had my table for several years works great, excellent bargain ...
I'll be sure to do my research next time
I think buying and using the table without a different set of instructions allows for an unbiased review.
The price has almost doubled since you uploaded this video. $289 before shipping, using the link you provided. Not such a good deal anymore.
Agreed
Tempting but I’ll stick with my fireball tool square
Fireball is always the way to go
The price of this table has jumped $100 in less than a year.
They are $200 now
Northern's lower brand products are far superior to harbor freight's stuff.
can only find this table for$289
Yeah lots of others saying the same unfortunately it looks like it went up in price
Bought one today for $239 on sale according to their web. Price in store was $289 but they gave me the web price.
Seen the same table on ebay close to this original price point
I am glad I came across this video, I was about to buy one of these tables but not now, it’s an obvious PIECE OF Crap...!
200.00 bucks no way
if you are looking for a professional table you would not be looking at spending $180
Yah spend 2k plus you won't regret get good tools that last
For sure!
Guys, I’m willing to bet that none of you have a $2k table. Unless you’re doing work on something that’s really heavy, or needs aerospace specs in flatness (for which there are tables that cost $5k, and up for 24x36), then these are fine. What most people don’t understand, is that when you’re welding, you don’t have to tighten a clamp down too hard. Just enough so that the pieces won’t move from the weld shrink, and that really doesn’t take much tightening. So these tables are fine for that.
If you’re making so much money that you can afford an expensive table, then great. But for many welding pros, these tables are perfect. I’ve been welding for my own companies since 1973, and I can afford any table I want, but I choose to spend my money on other tools and equipment.
Price went up $100 lets go
Brandon
At that price point there are probably better options now
@@trailandco But a certiflat for 50 more now.
Lol $150 table with $2100 welder 😂
Thats how I roll!
Hope you didn't pay much for this.
Much less than it's going for now fortunately
Lord and savior?
WTF !!! YOU make a review and don't know how to use a fixture table with its accessories !!! Kutch has an excellent video on UA-cam !!!
I hope you enjoy their video!