Wdym by that? On one end, your wording is confusing and someone might think you're being rude. On the other, and I feel this is the case, you're just saying they don't have to only do solos and we will appreciate whatever they pull out.
It's funny, watching it, it feels like the empty charge into Spinning Axe is quick, but when you're playing it feels like it takes FOREVER compared to when you have phials to bank.
Saw CB is hard to use on fast monsters, and it is nice to see how the help of Slugger 2 made an "hit and run" monster like Teo doable This speedrun starts from the build itself and that's amazing!
@@Edujs23 Unfortunely it doesn't really work like that. From my tests on the training room I think each of the CSS multi-hits deals roughly 1/5 of the damage from the original axe attack, including both raw and elemental. This means that if all 5 of them connect you are essentialy delivering double attacks. Still it works quite well with elemental damage, just not as crazy as one might think at first glance.
It's actually even better than in World There jumping from too high would cancel the animation, now you can jump from pretty much wherever and keep drinking
This hunter knows how to play CB, soooo many times where they DIDN'T use their guard point counter immediately despite having a good target for the counter hit. This is hard to master, since if you wait too long you lose the opportunity AND if you don't wait long enough you get knocked out of the attack by a follow-up hit that COULD have been blocked by simply waiting another .2 seconds. That kind of restraint is a lot harder to learn than any of weapons attack combos! 😄👍
I think that’s with the extended guard point switch skill because normally the guard point is at the end of axe to sword, the switch skill changes that.
I'm watching this for some confidence. Since for some reason in every Teo hunt, my fellow hunters often run face first into explosions rather than away from it. He wasn't this much of a pain in the ass when I was farming him for the bow in GU.
At 4:47 you do a regular element discharge that you normally only do if your shield isn't charged. How do you do that? I've been in the training room trying to replicate this with every possible button combo I know and it doesn't happen.
you have to hold the left joystick backward just before you land the super amped element discharge, to be more accurate you have to hold the joystick the opposite way of where your character is facing, for example if your character is facing right you hold the joystick left. Let me know if this make sense
@@ikramzainal498 thank you! I always forget some weapons have inputs that require directional input because I'm so used to just holding forward with greatsword. Definitely makes sense
It's just a matter of time. Keep playing and using the chargeblade until you get use to the controls and mechanics. It's also a matter of knowing the monsters. I started of the same way in world but, the more I got use to it, the more consistent I was getting
Practice man, CB is all about knowing the telegraphed attacks and kind of lining yourself and your windup animations up to meet in the middle. Rise seems to be a lot faster as well. In World, you are buying an engagement ring for your vial storage to SAED. It's about sticking with the weapon, cause it's one of those that pay off in the long run but make you feel like hot trash when you are learning. It's worth it though. 260 hours World CB main.
I just learned how to pull back from a super amped into a regular amped discharge. I usually just do that unless the monster is down. It helps me I hope it helps you.
3:45 i think it might have been a better option to launch rakna to mount teostra and wall bang it into the lava spout for good damage and refresh the down time for teostra
Awesome! I’d like to get a better handle on how to use the charge blade. It feels kind of clunky and slow for me since I haven’t had much experience with it yet. How do you make it spin like that in axe mode?
3:40 this whole bit is just so weird to me. It used to be that non elder dragons besides deviljho and rajang cleared the hell out when an elder dragon is in the area. Also, it somehow set teostra on fire? How is teo not immune to fireblight?
I know the Jurya charge blade is trash as an elemental, but do we think the impacts with element are better than elemental phials in rise? I.e rathalos and mitzu.. Are elemental phials worth at all? i.e rakna and thunder?
I use the rathalos charge blade because of the element exploit and go for spinning axe skill. For the rakna cb, I use it when I'll be using phials to deal damage. I do think elemental phials increase damage with elemental attack skills and impact increases damage with the artillery skill. Not sure about the last sentence 😅.
From what I understand chainsaw is just superior because you can focus all the damage in one spot and keep going Discharge uses all your vials and you have to spend time rebuilding after every use
Doing a ASED (Axe super element discharge) has a lot of stun damage in a short time window. So if the opurtunity arise u have to hit it at the head. Otherwise using the chainsaw allows for constant damage, even the phials reload. As i heard if u use a elemental weapon, having mutliple hits is stronger that biger smaler hits. So that can play part in it too i guess.
For stun. That CB has impact phials which has a potential to stun. He only uses AED for stunning, the three ticks on the hit with an AED can stun unlike UED which releases the phials in a cone, so no stun (please correct me if I am wrong 😅).
switching weapons helps sometimes, also elemental advantage helps. but if you want to copy the build exactly they show it for a a split second right at the end.
How can you still use a simple SED instead of UED while your shield is charged up? I tried recreating this heavy stun combo but I always get UEDs when the shield is charged (as told in the notes)
I'm not a CB player but maybe it's because of the Counter Morph Slash switch skill? I know that one changes the guard points a little so that could be it idk.
for the small time frame I think that is the best option, but it ruins your constant aggression, so for speedrunning it's usually better to go for overall damage per minute than damage per second.
There are two types of Chare Blades, elemental und impact phials. Mizu's Charge blade has ipact phials meaning i can stun monsters if the head is hit. Jyura only does waterdamage on phials without the stun. The overall damage of elemt phials can be higher, but u have better oportunites to do damage if the Monster ist stunned on the ground.
Charged Axe mode seems to have more consistant damage which makes the monster stagger or trip a lot more. That's vital for speedrunning since you're controlling the fight. In MP you go for big damage more since you have friends controlling the monster while you're setting up for the SAED.
Watching this makes me realize I need a lot more practice with the Charge Blade, Awesome hunt.
Classic teo, doing nothing but fall over
This one stands up a bit more than World's Teostra at least, and in its defense, he had slugger 2 which helped a lot knocking it down
Showing your weapons and skills doesn’t have to be speedrun to, you know!
Gives us more then a second guys.
Anyways amazing work like always.
Wdym by that? On one end, your wording is confusing and someone might think you're being rude. On the other, and I feel this is the case, you're just saying they don't have to only do solos and we will appreciate whatever they pull out.
@@17deluxe51 what? He's saying they can show their equipment on screen a bit longer.
@@GrandGigas Is that so? Lol damn I was way off
@@17deluxe51 lmaooo what bruh
@@GrandGigas Oh wait I see it now
It's funny, watching it, it feels like the empty charge into Spinning Axe is quick, but when you're playing it feels like it takes FOREVER compared to when you have phials to bank.
is spinning axe only in rise?
@@redcomet7916 It was first introduced in Monster Hunter World: Iceborne as Savage Axe.
@@JoedT ah ok
You can charge your pizza cutter faster if you have yellow/red phials. I'm not really sure if rapid morph helps
@@damonzen rapid morph it's help alot. I'd test it myself already and difference is massive.
The way you stun locked him in the beginning gave me MH4U vibes
nice time, but the real speedrun was how he was showing his set..
Yeah lol, little time was given to see the set. Had to multi pause to see it.
My thoughts exactly 🤣
I dont know why speedrunners rush this.
@@MingMingDumpling idk saving some time to carve?
@@kzy__ most speedrunners dont even carve
Saw CB is hard to use on fast monsters, and it is nice to see how the help of Slugger 2 made an "hit and run" monster like Teo doable
This speedrun starts from the build itself and that's amazing!
Everytime i see a CB run of you guys i always hope its the a Saed version, but in the end it always the Pizza cutter xD good run tho
I think it is because it Just goes really well with elemental damage, since every hit is supposed to proc the damage
saed is booty
check their magnamalo speedrun of the CB SAED style. the first discharge happens like 7 seconds in and then it doesn't stop
@@Edujs23 Unfortunely it doesn't really work like that. From my tests on the training room I think each of the CSS multi-hits deals roughly 1/5 of the damage from the original axe attack, including both raw and elemental. This means that if all 5 of them connect you are essentialy delivering double attacks. Still it works quite well with elemental damage, just not as crazy as one might think at first glance.
Pizza cutter is optimal when the monster is immobile for a long time.
Man just giving Teo a brand new haircut and all.
0:16
Ive been playing since it got released and I didnt know u could drink stuff while jumping ._.
It's actually even better than in World
There jumping from too high would cancel the animation, now you can jump from pretty much wherever and keep drinking
you just gotta make sure you start drinking before you start falling
If you drink while falling and hit the floor before you can finish it, it will cancel it. That happened to me once I think
@@idgaf4184*Cough cough* demondrug
Seeing tds members took damage is oddly satisfying
Reminds us that theyre human
Gods do bleed lol
I'm loving the CB speed runs. Keep it up.
Daumen hoch für Wiener und Schnitzel!
Ja Mann
0:45 is there a frame drop or my eyes are just getting weak
yes there is
動画の最初のタイトル"チャアクソ"って書いてあって吹きかけた
This hunter knows how to play CB, soooo many times where they DIDN'T use their guard point counter immediately despite having a good target for the counter hit.
This is hard to master, since if you wait too long you lose the opportunity AND if you don't wait long enough you get knocked out of the attack by a follow-up hit that COULD have been blocked by simply waiting another .2 seconds.
That kind of restraint is a lot harder to learn than any of weapons attack combos! 😄👍
Great Tostada run man!
Uh is it possible in Rise to go straight to guard mode from axe mode like in 1:51?
Yeah it is! but then after the guard point you are back in sword mode
Yeah. It’s a guard point with a simple RT press.
I think that’s with the extended guard point switch skill because normally the guard point is at the end of axe to sword, the switch skill changes that.
@@Ophelia7438 ah thanks a lot for replying. This explains it
The cape and weapon of choice made him look like a heron haha
I'm watching this for some confidence. Since for some reason in every Teo hunt, my fellow hunters often run face first into explosions rather than away from it.
He wasn't this much of a pain in the ass when I was farming him for the bow in GU.
it hasnt even been a week and TDS is alreayd 100+ HR ;-;
in rise it's pretty easy to rank up, it actually gets very very fast
I'm 136HR
yeah, 7 star missions give stupid HR points
@@SnakeTheBoss13 up to 3 or 4 HRs at a time even lol
@@vonix9199 it significantly decreased the higher you go though it seems
At 4:47 you do a regular element discharge that you normally only do if your shield isn't charged. How do you do that? I've been in the training room trying to replicate this with every possible button combo I know and it doesn't happen.
you have to hold the left joystick backward just before you land the super amped element discharge, to be more accurate you have to hold the joystick the opposite way of where your character is facing, for example if your character is facing right you hold the joystick left. Let me know if this make sense
@@ikramzainal498 thank you! I always forget some weapons have inputs that require directional input because I'm so used to just holding forward with greatsword. Definitely makes sense
Teostra loves rubbing the ground.
Ehi, You must thank Kadachi, man XD
Nice Hunt, Congratulazioni
Im tryna get into chargeblade but holy crap i just cant land the big hits. Any advice for not missing like a complete dummy?
Spacing and practice
It's just a matter of time. Keep playing and using the chargeblade until you get use to the controls and mechanics. It's also a matter of knowing the monsters. I started of the same way in world but, the more I got use to it, the more consistent I was getting
Practice man, CB is all about knowing the telegraphed attacks and kind of lining yourself and your windup animations up to meet in the middle. Rise seems to be a lot faster as well. In World, you are buying an engagement ring for your vial storage to SAED. It's about sticking with the weapon, cause it's one of those that pay off in the long run but make you feel like hot trash when you are learning. It's worth it though. 260 hours World CB main.
Practice bud.
I just learned how to pull back from a super amped into a regular amped discharge. I usually just do that unless the monster is down. It helps me I hope it helps you.
After getting rekt by teo I watch this to feel better
sick run!
Nice CB run!!
Nice cheval pfp
@@RathaGamerGirl Thanks!!
@@RathaGamerGirl your lute is so cool!!
My man spent 13 hours for this run, good stuff
that’s some fiiiiiine airborne drinkin’, if i do say so myself.
Palico came thru at the end and finished it off they really buffed them up!
3:45 i think it might have been a better option to launch rakna to mount teostra and wall bang it into the lava spout for good damage and refresh the down time for teostra
How did the phioles load that fast in the beginning?
Teostra theme in rise : E M P E R O R J A Z Z
where is the jazz part
There is literally no jazz. In fact there isn't even a suggestion of anything that sounds remotely similar
can a similar style be done with a narga spinning axe build? having a tough time getting knock downs
Juat like the “after you beat 1000 teostra run”
There is something very satisfying about the switch axe rotating blade.
Dude
@@the_scales lol
@@Tactavious my guy, I don't know how you haven't been swarmed with "nO, it'S Ch4rgE BLaDe yoU dumMY!!!1!!"
Awesome!
I’d like to get a better handle on how to use the charge blade. It feels kind of clunky and slow for me since I haven’t had much experience with it yet.
How do you make it spin like that in axe mode?
Charge blade go BRRRRRRRR~
Haha, Charge Blade go Brr, always great to see. You guys never fail to impress with this kind of weapon finesse, amazing
That talisman is wild
3:40 this whole bit is just so weird to me. It used to be that non elder dragons besides deviljho and rajang cleared the hell out when an elder dragon is in the area. Also, it somehow set teostra on fire? How is teo not immune to fireblight?
Teostra: Look at my majestic mane.
TDS: Time to shave it.
Teostra: Oh noes!
TDS: Oh yeos!
Great run like always!
How does he get the icon in the top left to look like an axe instead of a sword?
判決〜地獄行き〜
Shepard is crying rn
Me, still on ps4 casually seeing them add new monsters to rise
Random dude : just buy a switch lol
@@literalidiotiguess5688 rich*
Sad world noises
@@literalidiotiguess5688 not everyone can afford though but if you can, yep, go buy it
@@bohenian you are aware i said random dude : just go buy a switch and not just go buy a switch right?
Props to Wiener and Schnitzel
oooo nice run
Incredible gp end
Anyone know how to use wirebug to move without seath weapon like this guy do in 2:19 ? I'm using keyboard and mouse
what skill is on the charge blade?
Any tips for parry monster roar?
Beautiful
What attack is he inputting after the counter?
im loving these savage axe runs
01:45 wait but you have the shield red, why the full attack din't come out?
It's called saed cancel, check the weapon controls
@@jamestdfm Thanks!
@@jamestdfm I donr think the cancelling part is shown in the control
@@AsterionIsaac it is
@@jamestdfm Never seen that, might check later then
Did Xiahoudun from dynasty warrior come hunt monster already?🤣
First 4 seconds of the video: instant epilepsy.
How do you make the switch axe do the regular elemental discharge instead of the amped one?
You use the elemental discharge before your amp gauge is full
During SAED input hold the left stick in the opposite direction during the animation.
@@NetogeZero Amped is the one, with max amp gauge, where you stick to the monster
@@17deluxe51 im aware but i presumed he got CB and SA mixed up as this was a CB video.
Elemental impact phial is meta now?
I know the Jurya charge blade is trash as an elemental, but do we think the impacts with element are better than elemental phials in rise? I.e rathalos and mitzu.. Are elemental phials worth at all? i.e rakna and thunder?
I use the rathalos charge blade because of the element exploit and go for spinning axe skill. For the rakna cb, I use it when I'll be using phials to deal damage. I do think elemental phials increase damage with elemental attack skills and impact increases damage with the artillery skill. Not sure about the last sentence 😅.
Noice!!👍
What's his layered armor? Looks pretty sick.
Don’t know if it helps anymore but is the Damascus armor without the helmet shown
How could i do the discharge without wasting all my phials (the quicker move)?
1:50 是怎麼直接檔的?
Sorry i dont speak your language but yeah i would also like to know how he guardpointed so fast
Why does he never use UED? Is it just too much time commitment? I just picked the CB up a few days ago and am looking to improve myself.
From what I understand chainsaw is just superior because you can focus all the damage in one spot and keep going
Discharge uses all your vials and you have to spend time rebuilding after every use
Doing a ASED (Axe super element discharge) has a lot of stun damage in a short time window. So if the opurtunity arise u have to hit it at the head. Otherwise using the chainsaw allows for constant damage, even the phials reload.
As i heard if u use a elemental weapon, having mutliple hits is stronger that biger smaler hits. So that can play part in it too i guess.
For stun. That CB has impact phials which has a potential to stun. He only uses AED for stunning, the three ticks on the hit with an AED can stun unlike UED which releases the phials in a cone, so no stun (please correct me if I am wrong 😅).
Nice video
Can you pls tell me what build did you use for this I’m having trouble with teostra.🙏🏽
switching weapons helps sometimes, also elemental advantage helps. but if you want to copy the build exactly they show it for a a split second right at the end.
Thank you so much 🙏🏽
How can you still use a simple SED instead of UED while your shield is charged up? I tried recreating this heavy stun combo but I always get UEDs when the shield is charged (as told in the notes)
With shield charged: axe mode: X+A > L Stick Back+X
As said by the person above. I practiced it in the training room to get a feel for it. Muscle memory will do the rest. Lol
What a beast....
1:50 How does he do that? that GP so fast and not silkblind
Its counter morph slash silkbind. It gives axe to sword mode attack a guard point and it starts as soon as you do the attack.
I'm not a CB player but maybe it's because of the Counter Morph Slash switch skill? I know that one changes the guard points a little so that could be it idk.
counter morph slash gives gp when morphing from axe to sword
@@vladielx ohh okay i just didn't know it can be that fast xD
@@Tenma295 yeah, as soon as you tap ZR, it is a gp ;)
how does he do amped elemental discharge instead of ultra amped when his shield is red?
As your character winds up to do ultra amped, you move your joystick opposite of where your character is facing + X
@@johnhoac6570 oo naise
Can't wait to get rise
Why haven’t you gotten it yet?
warum schnitzel und wiener?
Im the only one that likes the restrictions on the arena quest better :)
I think they should add replays for the top 3 times on arena :)
I want a quest to hunt all 3 dragons back to back
Let's go Weiner!
interesting to see what attack has the best dps for CB
i always thought its always better to chain all phials into the fullcharge attack
for the small time frame I think that is the best option, but it ruins your constant aggression, so for speedrunning it's usually better to go for overall damage per minute than damage per second.
It's too amazing to use weapons other than swords!
If someone tells me he is the avatar ill absolutely believe
Sword and shield speedrun when ?
Wiener Schnitzel! My favorite.
How does he do the normal amped discharged with an amped shield
You press X and A for regular UAED but hold down back and X just before the swing.. downgrades it to a single hit
Why Mizu CB? Doesn't Jyura have better raw?
There are two types of Chare Blades, elemental und impact phials. Mizu's Charge blade has ipact phials meaning i can stun monsters if the head is hit. Jyura only does waterdamage on phials without the stun. The overall damage of elemt phials can be higher, but u have better oportunites to do damage if the Monster ist stunned on the ground.
how come you did want to land a Super Amplified Elemental Discharge?
For KO damage.
Charged Axe mode seems to have more consistant damage which makes the monster stagger or trip a lot more. That's vital for speedrunning since you're controlling the fight. In MP you go for big damage more since you have friends controlling the monster while you're setting up for the SAED.
@@sanderwillems8603 thanks for the great explanation. I understand now 😄
Those buddy names though.
Had to slow down the vid to pause just to see the set. Amazing run though 🤣
Teostra, more like Teosted.
ええぐ
Rip headphones users on that end card
There are four horsemen of charge blade and HCZS is one of them
It was just like a week or so. TDS is breathing heavy for the map even loads speedrun
Can someone explain this to me? So the shield is charged and when I want to only do I AED I can't I only can do SAED how do you do that?
Left Stick backwards relative to the character + X. Spamming X makes it easier for me.
@@Chileno4Live Ok thx man
🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
I like seeing other weapons besides narga/tigrex
Preach!
I still like seeing Tigrex weapons because they dont feel so overused to me yet.
I like seeing charge blade gameplay that isn't just SAED spam 80% of the time.
@@shrimp8545 they will in time.
I blinked, what happened?
どんだけやったらこうなるんだ？
hey can you guys STOP going through your skills list at break neck speed? I'm trying to look at those.
how did you cance saed to sad
That one dislike is just Teostra 😏