MHRise: How Wyvernriding Can Break the Game
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2021
- Vycery practices her wyvernriding skills everyday before bed so she decided to show what she has learnt so far and that it's kinda OP actually.
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“So, what’s your main weapon?”
-“Monke”
Monke> longsword
"And Tiger"
Monke mains represent
Literally me
Hero ahahahahahha
>Barges in riding a Rajang
>Chains lasers and performs a finisher
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Leaves
>Comes back with a Magnamalo
@@S.I.L. comes back with rajang again
>Takes your skin and uses it to make a poking stick
Teostra: _"NAKA ICHA DAMEEEEEEE........AAAAHNnn~"_
Now with Sunbreak TU1 someone in CN has already successfully did a 3'04'00 on Gold Rathian with a single Furious Rajang.
Truly the hidden 15th weapon in the game
I thought that was felyne assistants. Saw someone take down a couple monsters with just their helper.
@@That-No-Moon 16th then
Don't forget barrel bombs
There are many actually:
1. The 14 weapons
2. Tonfa (Frontier/Online Exclusive)
3. Medium Bowgun (Frontier/Online Exclusive)
4. Prowler (MHGU Exclusive)
5. Heavy Weapons Only (Siege Weapons, Bombs etc.)
6. Wyvern Riding (MH Rise Exclusive)
@@doubled6995 You forgot the Magnet Spike boss.
The fact that you can make a build based around “I want to ride monke”
ride wife
@@seanashley1873 life good
@@swishyswashy706 wife fight back
@@catgod1433 kill wife
@@monke4611 wife gone.....
"How to abuse a Monster with a Monster" TDS
At this point it is TDS's mission to just abuse a monster in every single way possible.
How to play Pokemon in Monster Hunter
So true
Hahaha
That Rajang's throat has GOT to be sore. Get him a Ricola or something.
lol
rajang the throat goat
Nah hes probably used to it 😏
Exactly what I was thinking
Go look at 5:23 of MH Rise Gone Wrong #10. That's the result.
It's probably why Deviljho isn't in Rise yet. He'd probably continue attacking the poor creature after you dismount from him lol
Honestly I would love that feature as it fits quite well with deviljoe
Yeah xD
Deviljho is basically this in world
the difference is that in rise we must control the monster, and in world deviljho just do this from it's own free will 😂
@@xthintz yep iirc savage jho actually prefer to fight other monster than you
Jho is always after a update cause his gear is better on most cases
when a Rider becomes a Hunter
Imagine if Capcom comes up and says: "No mate, It was absolutely intended to be like this"
It would make sense that they wanted the main feature of the game to be good so the players wanted to use it
@@marcoasturias8520 at least the new mounting is cool and the whole session always tries to be first at a mountable monster, remember in iceborn when clutch claw got introduced and you were basically forced to use it?
@@No__Vanity didn´t play the expansion but I´ve heard how was it
@@No__Vanity but you are forced to wyvern ride too
@@Amoeba_Podre Not constantly though, in Iceborne you have to tenderize the monster every five or so minutes it be kill the monster effectively but in Rise you can wyvern ride one time during the hunt or as many times as you want depending on the cooldown and either way you can kill you target effectively since each wyvern ride does a large amount of damage.
Wow, I can't believe you guys got your hands on monster hunter stories 2 early!
lol
People actually play those?
@@AK-hl6cv yeah
@@AK-hl6cv yea
@@AK-hl6cv stories is an amazing rpg of course people love it
This is the Rise equivalent of killing monsters using your secret buddy, Savage Deviljho.
It is different. Savage Jho attacked naturally and freely. This is a complete mess... It really doesn't look like MH anymore. I like the """new""" ridding option, but this is not ok to a MH game. It's broken and actually turns the game into a joke, to those how don't know it.
@@pequizaoaflito2643 "Broken" only if you can have Rajang and Magnamalo on the same map as they have the fastest/strongest attacks with little wind up. Also around 9 minutes of total hunt. You don't really save time doing this, it's just stress free. This is far from breaking the game, considering you need specific skills and dango for it to be optimal. This is just another option of the plethora you have as a hunter. You aren't gonna see everyone suddenly try this strat in multiplayer lobbies, because the scaling wouldn't have the wyvern riding do enough damage to kill.
@@duskyer2391 in real MH (everything else before Rise) no monster van be killed without a weapon, not even the easiest monster in the game. Iceborne have the claw, but it was well thought, since you can't use it multiple times in sequence, because the monster gets angry and it doesn't work. The mechanic in Rise is broken. So broken that I only play trying to ignore the problems (they are a lot), like the spiderman movement. Dudes crossing the entire map without touching the floor. I'm sorry, but what the Dog for?? You can go faster than the dog with the magic insects..... Rise have a LOT of problems. The only way to enjoy it is not thinking about all of them.
@@pequizaoaflito2643 peppo finished world and iceborne without drawing his weapon tho?
@@pequizaoaflito2643 In World you can kill monsters with enough bombs. If you count Bombs as a weapon then Wyvern Riding, which uses Silk Bugs is also a weapon. The key issue of something being broken is if it's easily abused and negates other strategies. This specific instant not only requires a unique build, but specific monsters to be present. The speed is decent, but it's not at speed runner levels and isn't necessarily easy enough to invalidate all other hunting methods.
I would agree with you if it was both easy to use any hunt and strong enough to make other hunting methods obsolete. It's not and just another cool option you can pick if you build for it.
this may seem broken af yea, but this really only works best with rajang and magna. the other monsters riding attacks aren't nearly as fast or strong. so as long as not every quest has magna and rajang as the other monsters, this is fine. but capcom underestimated the determination for cheese
What about valstrax? His a really fast and agile wyvern ride
@@jackkrell7313 His attacks actually have a long startup.
The thing is if it's other monsters with slower attacks, I think it may be just another cycle of timer but the fact remains that it is still possible with only wyvern riding.
Mizutsune strong attack while holding right summons a bunch of bubbles that do good damage and dont fill up the bar much, he is my go to always
Its also worth it to get somacanth, his finisher ends with a guaranteed sleep breath which can lead to great damage
This is super interesting, actually makes you realize how much damage you end up doing when you mount monsters normally, not to mention how much you can actually optimize around it.
This actually reminds me of playing as a Palico in MHGU in terms of niche strats
Imagine what this must have looked like from the teostra’s perspective
Toestra: Aw. Not again!!! Why you guys gaming up like this
AND THEN MAGNAMALO COMES IN WITH THE STEEL FOLDING CHAIR
first ride: "Oh hey Rajang what's going onnnnnohhhmygod stooooop"
Second ride: "Maggie you won't believe what Rajang just did, he came in and just started shooting me with lazers..... why are you looking at me like that?"
5 minute break: "okay, I think I'm safe here, no one saw me move here."
third ride: "AGAIN Rajang?! SERIOUSLY!?"
Forth ride: "WHYYYYYYY?!!?!?!"
@@PerfectBrom GOOD GOD, IT'S PANDEMONIUM
Nice pfp, sns 2 coming out! So excited :)
0:23
"Here, we're using sword and shield because it's the s-"
Me: "...superior weapon. Yes yes."
*Stops the video and looks out the window with a sense of pride and a tear in my right eye*
"What weapon do you main? I have 300 hours on Magnamalo but also use Rajang every now and then."
I would love to see some kind of guide about the most efficient combo for each monster during wyvern ride. Normally it just boils down to spamming A or Back+A and cancelling the animation with B, but some monsters have multi-hit attacks or even combos that make them harder to compare.
Lagombi, Volvidon, and Azuros all share the same Heavy Attack combo, because they all share the same skeleton.
For Tetranadon, Back-B to Back-A works well. You get waterblight, then you get to do big numbers.
For the most part the Mash A and animation cancel is the best method. There's a couple monsters that have different attacks or attack power depending on their state when you mount them. If you mount Rajang when he's fully powered up, his beams do significantly more damage. Valstrax, if you mount him when his wings are red, you can shoot his giant chaos beam, otherwise you just get the jet dive. Tigrex, for his Down+A, do the spin then cancel, don't do the roar unless it's your final attack before punisher. The biggest thing is making sure you get your stagger out before the monster staggers you. Some Elder dragons can take 1 hit stagger free and interrupt you. There really isn't much finesse to wyvern riding though. A face roll on the controller will suffice in just about every scenario. The direction the monster is facing when you try to launch your ride into another monster to transfer does matter though. If your attack leaves you facing towards the wall and not the monster, beep beep here comes the wall.
@@BlackBeltGamers88 you also have to take blights and status into consideration. Most monsters have the ability to inflict at least one of them, and I'd say it's generally worth it to sacrifice 1 or 2 of the strong attacks to get a quick poison or fireblight.
Are there any monsters that can inflict a status on a light attack?
"Emperor of flame gets bullied by angry cat and angry monke"
Even without maxing out the damage this is a very effective strategy. I did this last week on Valstrax and it was very effective. Mitsuzune and Almudron are very good targets for the wyvernride too.
最後のチャンネル登録への誘導が外国の人って感じで好き
そこがいいよけ
"I use the Monster to hunt the Monster"
--TDS
all this jumping in the air, I almost can't believe this is monster hunter
ye it makes the game really easy and compared to the past mh games this far easiest for me
Makes it so fun to move around
I see you haven't met our lord and saviour Insect Glaive yet
@@Havainus All praise our savior in the high high heavens
I love it but I wish climbing the wslls didn't force a wirebug
"I used the monster to destroy the monster."
Imagine they misspelled the game title and just published it anyway.
S is right beside D.
It should have been Monster Hunter Ride.
Clever and underrated comment. Needs more likes 👍
That's totally the first thing I thought when they teased the Wynvern Riding x)
Basically TDS made MHRise into MHStories.
Alternate alternate title: Pimp my Monster
How to Train Your Monster
"It's not a cheese, it's a feature." -Fugen maybe
They did not even used a weapon and still took them less time than me on a normal run
they? it was just one guy playing this
@@coaiemandushman1079 I think he ment they as a team planned this all out but only one did it
"They" is also used as an agender pronoun that describes a singular person. A lot of non-binary people prefer they over "He", "She", or "It". In this case, Vycery is female (as far as I know), so "she" would have been more appropriate. However, "they" is not technically incorrect since it doesn't have any connotations about gender. "He" is just plain wrong, and "it" is rarely used since it objectifies and dehumanizes people. The more you know.
TLDR: They can be used to describe a single person when you don't want to say anything about gender.
@@Oshawott315 "Vycery practices his wyvernriding everyday before bed so he decided to show what he has learnt so far and that it's kinda OP actually.
" literally the description, your point?
Both Magnamalo and Rajang do enough damage already. This just makes them your new Palamutes.
This hunt flows so well it's a pleasure to watch it
"Mom i want Monster Hunter Stories 2."
"We have Monster Hunter Stories 2 at home."
Monster Hunter Stories 2 at home:
underrated comment
日本語字幕がすごくありがたい！面白い動画をありがとう😊
Ah yes, Team Darkside. Answering questions you never knew you had.
Ohhhh so this is the Monster Hunter Stories everyone's been talking about
Guess I don't need to buy Monster Hunter Stories 2 to experience hunting using monsters.
I love games with dynamic builds like this. Making so many things possible and so many ways to play.
what's an example of a static build?
you earned my subscribe with that smooth ending xD(i just didnt know i havent subscribed yet)
I'm already subbed but that ending was brilliant.
bought me too
Monster hunter makes u super smart damn i love when Chris does this
"You're not dealing with the average Monster Hunter anymore."
Teostra: Oh my GOOOOOOOOD.
I was curious to see how a hunt would go if skills were focused towards riding, but never invested the legwork to actually try it. Thanks for the Showcase and congratz on gaining a subscriber!
U deserve like
Never thought that Monster Hunter would have a build made around becoming Sasori of the Red Sand.
That is amaizing, I need to try this for fun :D
Wow, I didn't know Magnamalo was playable weapon class. Maybe I'll learn to play it soon
This is why I love Wyvern Riding. It’s such a sick mechanic
Too overpowered
@@Yourmom-oo1zr It's supposed to be powerful but I guess it does too much? Maybe extend the cooldown or something and make it so you can only ride one monster every 15min or something.
I like how this unofficially told me how much health teostra can have during a quest lol
I know right :) I was looking for that to
Lol
How much health he has with one person, remember the more people you have the stronger the monsters get. So this is the weakest teostra in terms of health
In the words of Ken Watanabe in Godzilla King of the Monsters:
“Let them FIGHT!”
Man! Every time these guys never fail to make my jaw drop with the pure skill. I never seen such knowledge they deserve all the praise.
All I'm saying is that I know what the strategy is going to be for the MH:Rise no damage run..
Damageless, hitless, armorless.
*weaponless*
If he ever does it Rise gives some pretty awful hitboxs a lot of the time so going damageless is going to be absolutely insane of not impossible
@@Lator_Gator why would they ever take damage if they're invincible while wyvern riding, no hitbox can stop that lmao
@@THE_Mirage you can't infinite wyvern ride and he would still need to grind for the skills he has so wyvern riding is not always the answer
"What's up guys, Chris here, and welcome back to fire kitty abuser rise"
The thing I love the most about Wyvern Riding is that you make the monster you're NOT riding drop materials, probably more than you'd get by just carving. It makes farming for large quantities of a monster's common materials so much easier.
Also, the Puppet Spider's method of making a monster ride-able isn't quite what the video states. When placed on the ground, it shoots some webbing that makes the monster instantly enter a Ride-able state if it hits.
I have just been forgetting, I'm finally subbed thank yall for the content:)
Team Darkside - Here's how to kill an elder dragon with just Wyvern riding.
Me - Wow that hunter is cute.
The "my main weapon is the monster" meme is real, they did it the madlads
Aboslutely impressive. Well done. I gotta try this out.
When ever I come to Team Darkside Channel I always though "hmm what ever crazy videos are these guys going to make" and they never disappoints XD hahaha
6:11
あまりにも自然な導入
"Rajang use Hyperbeam"
*It was supereffective*
With an awesome content like this, impossible to not be subscribed
“So what weapon do you main?”
“You ever seen Zoids?”
Lol what a throwback with that reference! Now with Zoids Wild, it's more like it 🤣
@@ferchio4801 Right! This is pretty much just Zoids Wild!! 🤣🤣
1回の操竜のダメージは20%であり、1回だけ見る視聴者もまた20%であった…
I need to know that layered armor setup
It is the Spio set (Skalda for the male version).
最高に分かりやすくて良い動画でした！
The real icing on the cake is the Teo Gem that Vycery got from quest rewards.
So this is the collab with Monster Hunter Stories 2 that capcom was talking about
I wish the UA-camrs would quit calling for nerfs. It’s annoying for solo players who aren’t trying punish themselves. Higher difficulty - Fine but “nerf everything it’s too easy” it’s very annoying to me and it’s primarily said by people who just play to game too much for it to be a challenge anymore.
3:05 that throwback to black ops 2 and it’s music oh my god
So, no one's gonna talk about the awesome OST played in the background of the vid? It's Black Ops Rooftops and the Black ops 2 theme. Both are my favorite COD games of all time. I think you earned yourself a subscriber.
Interesting... I always felt like riding was cool conceptually but pretty underwhelming in terms of damage done. It's still worth because of parts breaking but otherwise I didn't care too much for it. It's so cool that you managed to find a build to make it work so good!
ライズの動画色々みて来たけど、操竜乗り方によってクールタイムが変わってくるのは知らんかった...
あと語り口めっちゃ軽快で好き...
日本人ですが動画を見させてもらいました。
普通に参考になりました。
特に別のやり方をすれば操竜クールタイムが5分ということが
I'm Japanese, but I watched the video.
It was very helpful.
Especially if you do it another way, the cool time of Monster Ride is 5 minutes.
(Because it uses the translation function, there should be something wrong)
I'm more impressed by how familiar they are with lava caverns. Always get lost. Fuck that map lmao.
It’s funny, I already knew all the methods and the skills needed to extend the move damage and the other factors too, What I didn’t know was the time between each ride so thank you for explaining that. Whenever I go on a hunt I always go get as many rides as possible at the same time hunting the main monster!
海外にも笑顔の時間みたいな人がいるんだなって
i recognized the blackops music from kowloon-rooftops immediately from the vocals at the start, gives me nostalgia pog
Ride wife, life good.
Also the BO2 music was used pretty good, great video mate 👍
最後の急激な話題転換まじで草
自分はver.1の太刀最強装備の動画から登録させていただいていつも楽しませてもらってます😊
ちゃんと狩ってる自分より早くて草
Freaking awesome video!
This is e exactly my natural play style but I definitely learned a few things. Thank for the video.
Rather than being broken, I feel like this is another intended playstyle for hunter to build and execute. There are some obvious limitations to this build but it is a viable one nonetheless. And it does certainly seem a stronger build than the companion one.
yes, I can see this build being used well in rampage quests
笑顔の時間を論理で超えてきたか
You actually counted the 1 damage from the puppet spider, GOATED.
操竜が強いのもあるけど、それを使いこなせるここの人たちがもう流石ですわ
teo def has more health than that when Im using a LS for sure
Yes and no. A monster's health has a bit of randomness to it, but it is unrelated to your weapon. First, a monster has a base HP which is common for all monsters. Than, that base HP is modified by a multiplier depending on whether it is encountered in a village, LR Hub, or HR Hub settings. That's not all, there are some other parameters : basically, all what influences it then are the following : the exact * number of the quest, how many targets there are for this quest, the number of players, whether or not a player has eaten the food skill "felyne weakener", and finally a tinge of randomness added each time you start a quest. For a Teostra in the "Emperor of Flame" quest with 1 hunter, its health can go from a tad less than 17k to almost 20k. So with the teostra in the video having between 17352 and 17520 HP, it's truly on the low side, but the difference isn't enormous.
You could hit the blue waterfall when mounting theostra for more extra 2k damage
Yeah most people forget about the volcano water and lava walls lol
You'd be trading the ability to mount Magnamalo and kill Teostra after the 5 min cooldown for 2k damage and having to wait another 5 minutes or find a second puppet spider.
For this strategy specifically, it'd be detrimental.
Wow this really does help me
this is like that one crash bandicoot game where u can ride monsters to fight other monsters
日本語字幕を本当にありがとう！
9 minutes, i don't think this is broken at all. i think it's great to have that as a viable option. especially when skilled hunters can clear with weapons under that time.
Man the way they find ways to break the game is just amazing
good idea! i have issues navigating lower and higher lava caverns though, hopefully i can make it in time to do the damage. What crafting items are needed for the ramp up skill?
This isn't broken. I'd venture to say that most players can't easily accomplish what you did here, as you'll gather from most of the comments about constantly wirebugging through the air, and then mounting both Rajang and Magnamalo with only a few well-placed hits...
TDS eats, sleeps, and breathes Monster Hunter, so it's to be expected. Just give yourselves a pat on the back, and let the rest of us appreciate the skills of players who have invested tens of thousands of hours in the series.
Welllllll this is actually pretty easy to pull off and I'm not a professional just takes closer to 10 minutes for me
Yeah it's doable. :) just takes a bit of lactose.
This is really easy, so yeah Its fucking Broken.
as a veteran, playing since mh2fu, i like where the game is going. it went from build attack and crit modifiers to more creative ways of killing the monster. i think this should stay in the game. because only a small minority will be able to come up with this, lead alone used it forever. and even if. i kill teostra faster than 8 minutes. so what's the big deal.
i think this was, is and should be intended.
The best thing about this game is the mobility. It's nice to have this mobility after years of walking in this game. Really changes things up.
Im very sorry but i have to disagree. I played since mh1 days and there was beauty in taking things slow and i feel the best iteration of how monster hunting is was done best in MHW. This game doesnt feel like a monster hunter game in my opinion. It is a good game still but i just dont feel for this rise game as much :/
@@russelllee5594 MHW and Rise aren't so different, MHW mobility post iceborn was actually insane.
Lances could charge almost forever.
Dual blades zip zapping around like nothing.
Longswords ... well are longswords.
Tbh only the omega heavy weapons were not as mobile.
Fucking hammer was super mobile.
I think MHW is the best monster hunter iteration by far, BUT at the very very VERY endgame some things just went TOO fucking far.
AT Nergigante + AT Lunastra + AT Teostra + Fatalis were just TOO much, they could have been toned down and would still be a challange and NOT be an absolute nightmare fest at times.
If you had bad RNG Lunastra would hunt you down worse than a yandere does other women man.
Rise is even more mobile, I like that at the moment, BUT we dont even have extreme challanges in the game yet, I hope they will not overtune the super endgame monsters again.
I like to run my dual blade evasion build with the evade extension, very long dashes, quick escapes.
In and out + still doing good damage.
I rather have the freedom of mobility + builds than being extremely locked into DMG DMG DMG.
I do not know how this build scales when there's more players around and if it can negatively impact other player experience. This is probably the answer to whether the solution is good.
@@russelllee5594 ah yeah mhw where you pick hbg with divine blessing + guard up and just afk in front of the monster
Its amazing Bro
Nice hunt
Great Segue from teostra hp to subscriber percentage
You can also use a Stinkmink on yourself to lure a monster towards another. If you stinkmink, the monster will chase you even past the fight zone until it either meets another monster or the stinkmink wears off.
I dont understand why that mechanic was necessary tbh, it just feels weird and i dont like it as well as other aspects of the game, looking forward to the game after rise
I really hope this mechanic is born and dies in MH Rise
@@vitorhugo9800 agreed
Crazy, and crazy good too! Thanks guys.
This is dope, my kind of monster hunting
I dont think you of all people can call anything in a monster hunter game broken when you kill elder dragons in less than 5 minutes solo regularly, I'm just sayin
Next on monster hunter.
2030: Use mind control while on camp to slay the objective for you.
2077: You want monster dead? Press this button (x).
I've just started Monster Hunter Rise recently, so it was really helpful! thank you! Of course, I'm a brother who subscribed to the channel!
お団子乗り名人のスキルがそのままDango riderなのワロタ