How sad that this 17-year-old girl was first stood up and then killed the same night. She probably looked sad and vulnerable which made the killer approach and perhaps ‘comfort’ her. If only the guy had enough manners to cancel the date.
It was not so easy to cancel a date in those days, I doubt either of them had a home phone, and he probably had no idea of where she lived as they had arranged to meet at the dance. Being stood up was more common in the 50's and 60's. Even if he had turned up, she would probably have still gone home alone, if he lived in the opposite direction or used public transport I doubt he would have seen her home, you didn't expect to be taken home in those days, especially after a first date.
While I agree, the sad truth is that if it weren't HER, it would have been another girl killed. so if the guy had the manners to cancel the date, it'd only have saved her, not prevented a murder.
While his manners were rude I do not think you can blame the guy of what happened. He would not have known that this would have happened and I am sure that it still probably eats him away inside to know had he just cancelled it it would have possibly been different but regardless like said here he would not have prevented a murder cause there still would most likely have been someone else that the killer would have murdered so to put kinda a young girls death over the shoulders of a guy due to his manners is quite a lot.
@@tak4832 It was her decision to go to the dance alone, she was supposed to meet her 'date' at the bus stop, when he did not show up she caught a later bus and went anyway.
cases with young adults/kids in their late teens dying is so saddening, they have so much to be exited about in life right before it gets taken from them.
@@D3V_Official It’s not that we are mad about. You pointed it out in a very rude manner( like you were laughing about it). You really could just say that It’s excited not exited.
As saddening as it is for anyone from fetus to centenarian to die. I hate when people refer to youth/beauty/intelligence/personality as particularly tragic to lose in a person. The old, ugly, stupid, grouchy person is not easier lost nor are they worth less. Human life is sacred regardless. God is no respecter of persons.
Imagine being the “date” of this young girl. I would feel sooo guilty for standing her up. If he did show up then maybe the killer wouldn’t of targeted her. She must’ve been so sad when he didn’t turn.
@@juminhan7625 it would have mattered in the sense that this girl would have been safe. But yes, it would have been equally as terrible for someone else to get murdered.
@@tiajoseph7309 I usually don't like kids but cases that include babies are always so tragic, especially when the baby survives and has to go through trauma it's one of the worst things ever and humans can be disgusting sometimes.
@@oskr_0873 They can. They really can be despicable and disgusting. It's terrifying that these people exist.All I know is that there's a special place in Hell just waiting for them.
I don't get how Mr. Watt was a suspect. If he had multiple affairs why would he suddenly sexually assault his own daughter? I know being a father does not stop one from abusing their own children, but it makes no sense if he had a long history of being in affairs with other adult women outside of the family. I think the fishing trip was to cover up one of those affairs, which was why he seemed shady to police.
Kinda late, but i think he was a suspect because of the generalization that men just want sex/theyll do anything for sex/men cant be trusted. its very misandrist, but some people do think like that. the police may have also thought "mr.watt wouldve killed his daughter anyway, why not get free sex out of it??". Its VERY fucked up. That + him being very sus already wouldve only made the police against mr.watt more.
@@pee9570 i do agree that the generalisation of men in that area can be pretty bad in some cases, but it's simply happened too many times that we cant rlly blame ppl who believe in that
That guy was definitely a jerk for standing her up, but I don't think it's fair to blame him for her murder... he had no way of knowing that something like that would happen...
Can we just appreciate that Eleanor hasn’t changed het content over time to be ‘monetisation-friendly and had stayed true to the stories every time despite the issues with ads🥺a true crime queen x
Haha, true crime queen. She really does a great job. Her intro is perfect, I like how she uses the same words each time. Theres only a few others that even come close to Ellie. Based upon presentation and content. Plus they all love what they do for real reasons, and they think about their viewers while publishing content. Projectdarkknight, Nick Crowley, Steve Ronin & CoffeeHouseCrime! Highly recommend them! All true crime except Ronin, he explores but lately has been publishing paranormal content, oooooo! My husband brings up a good point, we like them because they all give what their fans want.
Tobin was a a psychopath, in prison he boasted about killing 48 people, but never named them, that is the control that a psychopaths like to exert. There are similarities between photographs of Tobin from that era and the photofit artist's impression of Bible John, and Tobin had moved from Glasgow in 1969, the same year as the killings officially ended. Another similarity is that eyewitnesses told police that the suspect had one tooth missing in his upper-right area of the mouth; dental records proved that Tobin had a tooth removed around the late 1960s
I really love how Eleanor adds trigger warnings. I know some people who watch/listen to true crime but can't handle the ones with SA and other stuff like that, so the trigger warnings are really helpful to them, and it makes me happy to know that Eleanor wants her viewers to be comfortable with the videos :)
As sick as the Watt family murders already are, I'm not gunna lie I'm pretty relieved the father was not responsible for the Murders and the SA of his own 16yo daughter.
It was not uncommon back in the 50's to be stood up, if either party changed their minds about meeting up they usually had no way of contacting the other person, (especially if it was a first date) not many households had phones back then, and if they had arranged to meet at the dance he probably had no idea of where she lived.
@@janetpendlebury6808 to be fair, he could've still just met up with her and told her there? i don't get why people ghost people it's so mean and confusing for the other person :(
@@SouperPie. He may of had an emergency or had to take care of something. It may have taken a lot of time for him to go all the way there just to walk back. We just dont know where he lived or his situation either. He just may of not been able to do that. Theres just a lot to think about
William not showing emotion to his family’s death would of course be shocking and make everyone more suspicious, however a lot of people deal with grieve in a different way obviously at first he didn’t know how to react and just had no emotion.
Oh girl. Im sitting here in "bonnie Scotland" feeling all the shame and fear right now. Stay safe out there everyone ✌🏻❤ Oh and hogmany is just what we call new years celebrations. Often just a replacement word for new year.
For the longest time, Hogmanay was the biggest celebration in Scotland and Christmas was not as much of a fuss. Hogmanay come from the gaelic (old spelling) "oge maidne" meaning "young morning/new morning".
Did anyone consider that the reason this SERIAL ADULTERER was trying to cover his tracks wasn’t because he was killing his wife for his own SERIAL ADULTERY but rather that he was committing another in his SERIES OF ADULTERIES that night, and that the murderer was reasonably sure they wouldn’t be interrupted due their prior knowledge of the husband’s scheduled ADULTERY which, and I apologise if I haven’t mentioned this already, was part of a SERIES?
I really really applaud the way Eleanor cut these stories in a way they are not annoying cliffhangers or stale enough to not be curious about the next part.
I was the discoverer of what turned out to be a triple homicide November 2nd, 2019. I was 2 driveways from my remote home here in Alaska and glanced down a long driveway that lead to an unfinished, abandoned house and saw a women’s legs. Strangely enough, the first thought in my brain was that it was a Halloween decoration dumped (this was a common dumping ground unfortunately) or prank. Then I thought it was an overdose so I ran up to her to see if I could provide assistance or at least cover her and provide warmth, but it was evident that there was nothing that could be done the moment I got a full view. I was on the phone with my Dad at the time and I turned around to see another woman in the woods, also obviously dead. I didn’t ever see the man that was also a victim. The scariest part was the fact that, as I walked out of the driveway, I saw a car had pulled up and 2 people were getting out to see what was up. I told them what I had found and had called the police, and while they went to “take a look” a trooper pulled up. I learned later that those two people had actually been at the scene about 5 minutes before I had showed up. The neighbor directly next to the abandoned property had actually had a camera pointed directly at that driveway due to the frequent illegal activity there. I had chills when I saw them in the footage. They had walked up to and over the more obvious body without so much as batting an eye. It was obvious that they knew she was there and likely knew why. My security footage showed a car drive by at 1am the morning before, gunshots, and a man saying “hurry up”. The part that haunts me was the obvious whimpering of a female that could be heard. No arrests have been made and we sold our house as soon as we could to get our young family somewhere safer. Let’s just say that therapy was a must and if there is a trash bag or something on the side of the road, I feel like I could throw up and immediately panic. I’m not one to panic, so it’s safe to say it had some real repercussions in my everyday.
I just wanna say to all the international fans that are fucking up their sleep schedules just to watch this video I just wanna say I love you all and your dedication doesn’t go unnoticed 🥺🥰
omg yes, i’m so excited for this one, i live so so so close to where he committed all of these kills, my grandad used to see him walking about in the fields at the back of his house! parts of the show in plain sight was filmed near me so i watched it be filmed! thank you for doing this one!!
Omg that must be so intense for your grandfather to think about, it’s so crazy to think that everyone all over the world could literally be seeing a murderer regularly🤯
Strange to see a picture of my home town on here,. Coincidentally , I just watched the series about this case last night, I remember when I was growing up overhearing my parents discussing it, his name always scared me. Another Scottish serial killer was Bible John, who was never caught although some linked his murders to Peter Tobin . Great content Eleanor, thank you xx
Shes done two videos one on peter tobin and one on bible john :) so eerie when i drive to my grans house i drive past the church he committed a murder in :/
i’m from scotland and have never heard of this case, my grandma was 19 at the time of this and living in lanarkshire so i wonder how much of it she remembers.
im absolutely obsessed with the way you tell these stories because of your commentary, its like we’re out getting tea and you’re explaining cases to me🥺
See if I stole money and it looked brand new, I would be doing everything in my power to make it look less new. Crumpling it, folding it, throwing it through the wash a few times....
Eleanor: he's done so much more. But that's where I'm gonna leave it for this part of the video... Me: NOOOOO... 😭😭😭... She is my favorite UA-camr... And can we just talk about her cliffhangers... I've never had or heard anyone give a cliffhanger.. where I'm literally on the edge of my seat in disbelief this part of the video is over lol
Its incredible how you upload so consistently, yet put in so much effort. There is noone so concise in putting this information together as vividly as you do, and it feels like we should only be getting this quality once a month or so- but you somehow do it every few days 😱
Ooof. You’re going to have a lot of problems later in life. Marijuana causes horrific long term problems, especially in people who start their addiction young and smoke often.
As a Scottish person we do not claim these evil, disgusting creatures, hope they are actually burning in hell, rest in peace to all of their victims , forever in our hearts❤️
Genuinely a tragic case, can we all just take a moment to appreciate how much work goes into these pieces of content! Love the levels of detail you bring to your cases, inspiring to the true crime cases I'm covering for sure!
Woke up to this and am so DANG excited!! I love your energy Eleanor, you are just the top and just such a great role model for retelling true crime for us littler true crime channels. You are lovely! Also a TWO PARTER?!?! You spoil us. 😍
I doubt anyone actually leaves when she says "if you don't want to hear about that type of thing, go ahead and click out, Im Sure I'll see you on another video" lol everyone's like pffff that's why I'm here! Gimme the details girrrrl 😜
Everyone talked about in this part I just feel so bad for. The young girl who was stood up and then chased and murdered. The boy who stood her up having to live with the guilt that the crime may have never happened if he hadn't done that. The other girl who survived the shot and bled to death slowly after her attack knowing the others in her home were dead or dying. The man on a fishing trip coming home to be told his family was killed and then being blamed for it and threatened with the death sentence. So many people hurt by this and this is just part one!
Scotland is so much more fascinating than most people (I'm speaking as an American) realize. The industrial revolution, and thus essentially modernity, was born from the Scotts.
Hogmanay is literally what we call New Year's in Scotland. I don't know if everyone does this or if it's just Scottish people but we make a meal and eat it with family. Usually this meal consists of Homemade Steak Pie, Carrots, Peas, Sweet Corn, Gravy, Roast Potatoes and sometimes Pigs in Blankets (sausages wrapped in bacon it's a Christmas food in the UK). It's a good dinner and is just something we do with family every year. I don't know if everyone does this but I know we do.
I know the guy that stood her up sucks for doing so, but I don’t think we should point out things like, “Had he not, she likely would still be alive.” I know he’s a douche but that’s straying towards victim-blaming kind of narratives to me.
No it isn't. It could've saved her if he maybe properly canceled or even if he showed up, maybe she wouldn't have been a target. It's all just opinions. We would never know.
@@jessiejnbaptiste3791 People got stood up a lot in the 50's and 60's, not many homes had phones, so if you did not know where the person lived you had no way of letting them know you would not be showing up. It was a first date so he probably had no idea of where she lived.
jesus christ, El, I just saw that you posted 14 hours ago and was like "sweet new content" AND THEN I saw this video was posted literally 15 minutes ago!! girl you need a break!!
Thank you for yet another great video. Oh my goodness, this case just gave me so many shivers and such a sickening feeling at the pit of my stomach. What an evil evil man. I was actually binge watching some of your videos. You are fabulous. Keep them coming. Definitely love how you put your videos together as you are so descriptive and as someone who is totally blind audio is so important, and your videos are awesome. Thanks for being so inclusive. X
You know what's Weird about all of this William Watt Case Sounds Very Similar To Chris Watts Case how he killed his whole family to run away With mistress.
Yeah, I also thought about them. :( But tbh, I didn't expect William would in fact be guilty, I only kinda expected, that he'd get an alibi from a mistress, he'd spend these days with in that hotel on the fishing trip. Bc killing his whole family (including his wife's sister) and r*ping his own daughter didn't make any sense to me, if he was successfully having affairs his whole life long without having any problems with his own spouse. I bet, Chris Watts was basically a virgin, when he met his wife, that's why he was so blown away by his new mistress.
I love that you do the disclaimers. Like I usually have no issues, but it’s nice to know that if I’m a little sensitive on a particular topic at the time I find the video I know if I can watch it or not.
Hogmanay is New Year’s Eve! It’s just our term for the holiday 😂 it’s very patriotic on Hogmanay in Scotland, back then especially! Lots of bagpipes, pipers, traditions etc take place on Hogmanay / when the bells go at new year
I don't know why but I have a feeling that the guy who said the man at the pub to not threaten him and that he would regret it might be responsible for it, but I could be wrong.
Does anyone else want a nail pic tag for every video so bad that you just pause it at certain points to see if you can see them in detail? Or is that just me 😅
Said it before, I'll say it again: identity parade is a much cooler title than police lineup. I want this universally. Identity parade sounds like an EVENT. 🎉
Back in the 50s people didn’t have cellphones to easily communicate. What if something had come up in her dates life so that he wasn’t able to make it? Or even if he did just stand her for no good reason, it’s not really an excuse to put him on blast basically insinuating that she’d be alive if it weren’t for him. I’m sure he felt guilty enough
I just watched some more videos on this case. & whoever killed the Smart family & ate their food actually fed their cat. I just thought that was a very odd bit of Information because usually as you see all so often that It usually starts with them as a child harming animals. The fact this person killed 3 people as they lay sleeping but was affectionate with the cat Is just bizarre.
OMG!!! Whens the next part? Brilliant case Ellie. I love your story-telling, you make really horrible cases easier to bare. Keep it up gorgeous, can't wait till the second part. xx
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How sad that this 17-year-old girl was first stood up and then killed the same night. She probably looked sad and vulnerable which made the killer approach and perhaps ‘comfort’ her. If only the guy had enough manners to cancel the date.
It was not so easy to cancel a date in those days, I doubt either of them had a home phone, and he probably had no idea of where she lived as they had arranged to meet at the dance. Being stood up was more common in the 50's and 60's. Even if he had turned up, she would probably have still gone home alone, if he lived in the opposite direction or used public transport I doubt he would have seen her home, you didn't expect to be taken home in those days, especially after a first date.
While I agree, the sad truth is that if it weren't HER, it would have been another girl killed. so if the guy had the manners to cancel the date, it'd only have saved her, not prevented a murder.
While his manners were rude I do not think you can blame the guy of what happened. He would not have known that this would have happened and I am sure that it still probably eats him away inside to know had he just cancelled it it would have possibly been different but regardless like said here he would not have prevented a murder cause there still would most likely have been someone else that the killer would have murdered so to put kinda a young girls death over the shoulders of a guy due to his manners is quite a lot.
@@tak4832 It was her decision to go to the dance alone, she was supposed to meet her 'date' at the bus stop, when he did not show up she caught a later bus and went anyway.
@@janetpendlebury6808 blaming people wont do any good especially the victim:)))
cases with young adults/kids in their late teens dying is so saddening, they have so much to be exited about in life right before it gets taken from them.
@@D3V_Official -_- u didn't have to point that out-
Wow, really, is it so important to point out such a tiny error???
@@D3V_Official It’s not that we are mad about. You pointed it out in a very rude manner( like you were laughing about it). You really could just say that It’s excited not exited.
@@hawkeye_pierce oh i'm sorry that you thought about it that way! :(
As saddening as it is for anyone from fetus to centenarian to die. I hate when people refer to youth/beauty/intelligence/personality as particularly tragic to lose in a person. The old, ugly, stupid, grouchy person is not easier lost nor are they worth less. Human life is sacred regardless. God is no respecter of persons.
eleanor: scotland has a lot of serial killers
me, who lives in scotland: 👁👄👁
There's not much to do up here I guess 😂
me who lives in lanarkshire: 🥲🥲🥲
Lol you beat me to it. A proud moment to be Scottish...😂
Same. Ian brady was born here too. As was mary bells family. Terrifying.
@@neelasorable it is the weather for me LOL
Imagine being the “date” of this young girl. I would feel sooo guilty for standing her up. If he did show up then maybe the killer wouldn’t of targeted her. She must’ve been so sad when he didn’t turn.
Ultimatly the killer would have targeted someone
@@thewill9847 This is true, the killer would have done the same thing to someone else, so it wouldn't matter at all.
@@juminhan7625 it would have mattered in the sense that this girl would have been safe. But yes, it would have been equally as terrible for someone else to get murdered.
@@YesIlikebananasSo While yes, that girl would have been safe, another girl would have been killed sooner or later.
@@juminhan7625 maybe someone older tho not someone who still had her whole life ahead of her
I’m committed at this point, it’s 6AM here and I woke up briefly to use the restroom, but I’m gonna be up for a while now 😂
Literally same but it's 5
Sameeeeeee! Got up to take my dogs out but now I’m UP up
Same here
Same. I woke up do early and I was browsing but I'm so glad she posted and I'm up. Yt didn't even bother sending a notification 🙄👊
@@justimani8228 you shut up😐
“Maybe he killed his whole family to run away with his mistress and start again”
Me, instantly: Chris Watts?
even the last name 😕
I heard he is still in contact with the mistress too
@@monetmonroe4644 what a prick
I Know I thought that too 😭😭😭 🥺 it's just so unfair!
Same!
cases with teens/children make me so upset, it’s crazy how serial killers think.
I agree
Especially babies. These people are sick.
@@tiajoseph7309 I usually don't like kids but cases that include babies are always so tragic, especially when the baby survives and has to go through trauma it's one of the worst things ever and humans can be disgusting sometimes.
@@oskr_0873 They can. They really can be despicable and disgusting. It's terrifying that these people exist.All I know is that there's a special place in Hell just waiting for them.
Same:((
If I get murdered and eleanor doesn't talk about it I don't want it.
This
@Emma McCaffrey gonna be watching her FILM it haha
@Emma McCaffrey instead of watching it over someone shoulder I’m gonna be haunting Eleanor and watch as she films it lol
Yes
I'm reading it like Billie Eilish said it
It’s always the poor dog walkers 😭
Dog walkers in the UK and deer hunters in the US I’ve found
And joggers 😭
Everytime. 😭
Those poor people
its god punishing morning people
Eleanor: “this case takes place in Scotland”
Me, who lives in Scotland: 😦
Eleanor: “in a place called Lanarkshire”
Me, who lives in Lanarkshire: 😨
Me in East Kilbride 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
me in birkenshaw/tannochside :/ :/
XD stay safe
@@wiggl3s_821 WOAH ANOTHER PERSON IN EAST KILBRIDE
Me in Falkirk 🤷🏻♀️
Don't think there's many /known/ killers here.
I don't get how Mr. Watt was a suspect. If he had multiple affairs why would he suddenly sexually assault his own daughter? I know being a father does not stop one from abusing their own children, but it makes no sense if he had a long history of being in affairs with other adult women outside of the family. I think the fishing trip was to cover up one of those affairs, which was why he seemed shady to police.
Kinda late, but i think he was a suspect because of the generalization that men just want sex/theyll do anything for sex/men cant be trusted. its very misandrist, but some people do think like that. the police may have also thought "mr.watt wouldve killed his daughter anyway, why not get free sex out of it??". Its VERY fucked up. That + him being very sus already wouldve only made the police against mr.watt more.
@@pee9570 i do agree that the generalisation of men in that area can be pretty bad in some cases, but it's simply happened too many times that we cant rlly blame ppl who believe in that
@@fatinahhusna983 yes.
Yes! I literally thought i was the only one who thought this!
Bill Watt would not name the woman he was with therefore he had no alibi.
That guy was definitely a jerk for standing her up, but I don't think it's fair to blame him for her murder... he had no way of knowing that something like that would happen...
Agreed. The killer would have found another target
I agree he made a simple mistake that usually would have less dire consequences there was no way he could’ve known x I hope he has found peace x
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@@elliebeanland6416no we don’t he obviously paid the killer
Can we just appreciate that Eleanor hasn’t changed het content over time to be ‘monetisation-friendly and had stayed true to the stories every time despite the issues with ads🥺a true crime queen x
Haha, true crime queen. She really does a great job. Her intro is perfect, I like how she uses the same words each time.
Theres only a few others that even come close to Ellie. Based upon presentation and content. Plus they all love what they do for real reasons, and they think about their viewers while publishing content.
Projectdarkknight, Nick Crowley, Steve Ronin & CoffeeHouseCrime!
Highly recommend them! All true crime except Ronin, he explores but lately has been publishing paranormal content, oooooo! My husband brings up a good point, we like them because they all give what their fans want.
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@@modernfamily4550 what do you mean what do I mean?
@@shannonmiller3444 What do you mean at your comment under my comment
@@modernfamily4550 she's just agreeing with you and giving you some recommendations that produce high quality content like eleanor lol
“I don’t know who would think that far into it tho- well maybe someone who killed their family I don’t know”. Eleanor I love you to absolute pieces.
eleanor is literally spoiling us at this point
She always dose she’s a queen
Her research must be taking her hours to get
When Eleanor started naming all the Scotland murderers...I am immediately terrified with this case..and so . . . . . it is absolutely TERRIFYING😬
and she didnt mention bible john who was never actually caught!!
@@allanahmullen9 Many think that serial killer and rapist Peter Tobin may be Bible John.
@@janetpendlebury6808 I think he was that cocky that he would admit to those crimes though as he would want the recognition
Tobin was a a psychopath, in prison he boasted about killing 48 people, but never named them, that is the control that a psychopaths like to exert. There are similarities between photographs of Tobin from that era and the photofit artist's impression of Bible John, and Tobin had moved from Glasgow in 1969, the same year as the killings officially ended. Another similarity is that eyewitnesses told police that the suspect had one tooth missing in his upper-right area of the mouth; dental records proved that Tobin had a tooth removed around the late 1960s
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Scottish gal here Hogmanay isn’t a separate celebration it’s just what we often call New Years in Scotland!
Yup!
From wich country is she from
@@luisandcoleta9035 Scotland
@@luisandcoleta9035 Hogmany is in Scotland, Elenor is from the North of England
I really love how Eleanor adds trigger warnings. I know some people who watch/listen to true crime but can't handle the ones with SA and other stuff like that, so the trigger warnings are really helpful to them, and it makes me happy to know that Eleanor wants her viewers to be comfortable with the videos :)
As sick as the Watt family murders already are, I'm not gunna lie I'm pretty relieved the father was not responsible for the Murders and the SA of his own 16yo daughter.
honestly what a bastard her date is for leaving her at the dance alone and vulnerable
Makes you wonder if the killer didn't know that she was meeting someone and knew she was being stood up...
Maybe he's the killer!!!??? Can't wait for part 2
It was not uncommon back in the 50's to be stood up, if either party changed their minds about meeting up they usually had no way of contacting the other person, (especially if it was a first date) not many households had phones back then, and if they had arranged to meet at the dance he probably had no idea of where she lived.
@@janetpendlebury6808 to be fair, he could've still just met up with her and told her there? i don't get why people ghost people it's so mean and confusing for the other person :(
@@SouperPie. He may of had an emergency or had to take care of something. It may have taken a lot of time for him to go all the way there just to walk back. We just dont know where he lived or his situation either. He just may of not been able to do that. Theres just a lot to think about
I didn't expect another upload so soon, I'm happy to spend my weekend watching Eleanor 💕
I didn't either. What a nice surprise.
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Me too.
@Leia and editing
@@Maria-kp4ws I think she has an editor
Hogmanay is just what some of us call New Year’s Eve in Scotland!
William not showing emotion to his family’s death would of course be shocking and make everyone more suspicious, however a lot of people deal with grieve in a different way obviously at first he didn’t know how to react and just had no emotion.
and it may have seemed like he had no emotion when truly it just appeared that way to other people. people can retreat into their own minds
petition for Eleanor to start posting these on spotify
yes yes yes yes!!!! podcast true crime queen
oh my god yes, ic ould fall asleep to these lol
Oh girl. Im sitting here in "bonnie Scotland" feeling all the shame and fear right now. Stay safe out there everyone ✌🏻❤
Oh and hogmany is just what we call new years celebrations. Often just a replacement word for new year.
My new word of the day! Thanks for the definition. 😋
calm down, every country has its crazy psycho killers. bit over the top
@@HouseOfMitchell You just had to be that person 🙄
For the longest time, Hogmanay was the biggest celebration in Scotland and Christmas was not as much of a fuss. Hogmanay come from the gaelic (old spelling) "oge maidne" meaning "young morning/new morning".
Did anyone consider that the reason this SERIAL ADULTERER was trying to cover his tracks wasn’t because he was killing his wife for his own SERIAL ADULTERY but rather that he was committing another in his SERIES OF ADULTERIES that night, and that the murderer was reasonably sure they wouldn’t be interrupted due their prior knowledge of the husband’s scheduled ADULTERY which, and I apologise if I haven’t mentioned this already, was part of a SERIES?
The commitment 👏🏾 I was in the middle of watching yesterday’s case, when she uploaded this one. 2 cases in less than 24 hours … thank you ❤️
Girl, same. SAME. 🙌
I had to look twice to make sure it wasn't an old video suggested!
and she posted part 2 today too
Yh if i was getting paid amount she is from youtube id proberly upload 200 more vids in a day lmao but yeah i followed her from her 1000 sub days
Note to self: Do not eat cheesecake with strawberry topping while Eleanor is talking about brain matter LOL
Well if it makes u feel any better brain matter isn’t in any spectrum of pink/red etc it’s actually more grey..like oysters. So enjoy ur cheesecake!
@@cleoglover3572 Good thing I do not like oysters then! LOL Thank you for clearing that up for me! :)
@@nikkistuart4211 Lol I completely get it.. I love cheesecake tho!
That would not stop me, I love cheesecake too much :-‘)
I really really applaud the way Eleanor cut these stories in a way they are not annoying cliffhangers or stale enough to not be curious about the next part.
Wonder how much therapy it requires for the people who find dead bodies. I'd be traumatised and scarred for life.
I was the discoverer of what turned out to be a triple homicide November 2nd, 2019. I was 2 driveways from my remote home here in Alaska and glanced down a long driveway that lead to an unfinished, abandoned house and saw a women’s legs. Strangely enough, the first thought in my brain was that it was a Halloween decoration dumped (this was a common dumping ground unfortunately) or prank. Then I thought it was an overdose so I ran up to her to see if I could provide assistance or at least cover her and provide warmth, but it was evident that there was nothing that could be done the moment I got a full view. I was on the phone with my Dad at the time and I turned around to see another woman in the woods, also obviously dead. I didn’t ever see the man that was also a victim. The scariest part was the fact that, as I walked out of the driveway, I saw a car had pulled up and 2 people were getting out to see what was up. I told them what I had found and had called the police, and while they went to “take a look” a trooper pulled up. I learned later that those two people had actually been at the scene about 5 minutes before I had showed up. The neighbor directly next to the abandoned property had actually had a camera pointed directly at that driveway due to the frequent illegal activity there. I had chills when I saw them in the footage. They had walked up to and over the more obvious body without so much as batting an eye. It was obvious that they knew she was there and likely knew why. My security footage showed a car drive by at 1am the morning before, gunshots, and a man saying “hurry up”. The part that haunts me was the obvious whimpering of a female that could be heard. No arrests have been made and we sold our house as soon as we could to get our young family somewhere safer. Let’s just say that therapy was a must and if there is a trash bag or something on the side of the road, I feel like I could throw up and immediately panic. I’m not one to panic, so it’s safe to say it had some real repercussions in my everyday.
@@lydiawatkins6878 wow, that’s crazy! And to encounter dangerous people on your way? I’m glad you’re safe… and sorry you had to see that
I just wanna say to all the international fans that are fucking up their sleep schedules just to watch this video I just wanna say I love you all and your dedication doesn’t go unnoticed 🥺🥰
Yep!!! I am in NY so it was about 7am so I am up!! Even though its a Saturday i have 3 boys so no such thing as sleeping in!!
I just watched her other upload at 11 last night!!
I am from nepal🇳🇵🇳🇵
I wait til I’m up and at work.it makes the day go better lol 😂
I gladly sacrifice my sleep schedule for a while to watch her uploads! I'll fix it soon... Maybe.
omg yes, i’m so excited for this one, i live so so so close to where he committed all of these kills, my grandad used to see him walking about in the fields at the back of his house! parts of the show in plain sight was filmed near me so i watched it be filmed! thank you for doing this one!!
Omg that must be so intense for your grandfather to think about, it’s so crazy to think that everyone all over the world could literally be seeing a murderer regularly🤯
Pretty good drama. It didn't really touch on the brutality of this killer. More about his charisma and rivalry between him and the copper. Good tho.
Oh damn-
I’m local too! My grandad used to serve Peter regularly at the pub he worked at in birkenshaw
I'm from birkenshaw also ! 😊
My brain is still half-asleep, Eleanor. I keep seeing the title as "The Beast of Birkenstock".
wait i thought it said that too what
So it does not say that!?😀✋🏻
Strange to see a picture of my home town on here,. Coincidentally , I just watched the series about this case last night, I remember when I was growing up overhearing my parents discussing it, his name always scared me. Another Scottish serial killer was Bible John, who was never caught although some linked his murders to Peter Tobin . Great content Eleanor, thank you xx
Shes done two videos one on peter tobin and one on bible john :) so eerie when i drive to my grans house i drive past the church he committed a murder in :/
@@graciee6615 thanks for that Gracie, I'll have a look. Tobin was evil, it is spooky especially so close to home x
i’m from scotland and have never heard of this case, my grandma was 19 at the time of this and living in lanarkshire so i wonder how much of it she remembers.
You've covered so many brutal cases and you do is so kindly, thank you.
FR FR!?💙:-P
Imagine how much guilt the boy who stood her up felt, he no doubt blamed himself for her murder.
im absolutely obsessed with the way you tell these stories because of your commentary, its like we’re out getting tea and you’re explaining cases to me🥺
Am i the only one that puts her videos on to relax before bed and they put me to sleep? 😂
P.s. Not in a bad way.
Yep just jumped into bed freshly washed sheets hooray!
@@amandatuner4677 phew! Not just meee 🤣
Same here! ✋🏼
Yh!?SAME👻✋🏻
Same here
See if I stole money and it looked brand new, I would be doing everything in my power to make it look less new. Crumpling it, folding it, throwing it through the wash a few times....
I know how stupid can you get!
isolation + Eleanor Neale = binge watching
Yeah. I think I watched every video of hers that uploaded at that time
nothing better than waking up on a saturday morning to see eleanor’s uploaded ❤️
It’s 4am in Canada and bet your ass I’m gonna put off sleep even longer to watch this 💀
Same 😭 3:25am cali 😂
It's 4pm in india😂
She literally dropped this in England at half eleven in the morning 😭
Its 7pm in Malaysia rn
It’s 7:13am Rn for me 💀
Eleanor: he's done so much more. But that's where I'm gonna leave it for this part of the video...
Me: NOOOOO... 😭😭😭...
She is my favorite UA-camr... And can we just talk about her cliffhangers... I've never had or heard anyone give a cliffhanger.. where I'm literally on the edge of my seat in disbelief this part of the video is over lol
My exact reaction! 😭😂
21:35 makes me laugh really hard
"Well, maybe someone who killed their family"
Its incredible how you upload so consistently, yet put in so much effort. There is noone so concise in putting this information together as vividly as you do, and it feels like we should only be getting this quality once a month or so- but you somehow do it every few days 😱
watching true crime all day and getting stoned are the only things keeping me sane during the pandemic
Same buddy
@@rileyswack5402 nice to know its not just me
@@not.alexanderr you're never alone
so true
Ooof. You’re going to have a lot of problems later in life. Marijuana causes horrific long term problems, especially in people who start their addiction young and smoke often.
This man murdered one of my grans friends and their family. Was awful and quite a terrifying time
Actual queen! Eleanor if you're ever in Liverpool dinner, true crime and cocktails? #iwish 🙈
Can i come too?
I'm joining!
that would be such a fun event!!!!
The whole video it seems like Eleanor has cat ears
Phaha yes
Didn't notice now can't unsee it. Lol
i can not believe i have watched eleanor for 3 years and this is the first time i have been atleat a little early.
Congratulations!
"I'm getting really good at uploading part 2s really quickly" ...less than 12 hours later! no kidding!
As a Scottish person we do not claim these evil, disgusting creatures, hope they are actually burning in hell, rest in peace to all of their victims , forever in our hearts❤️
idk if you’ve heard of the game “granny” but apparantly the game is based off of a true story, could you maybe go over the true story of the game? :)
omg i played that game all the time and never knew this…..i rlly hope she talks abt it
Never heard of that game.. now I'm interested about what it is?
whattt that must be a really fucked up story then…
It's not based off anything real. It's all lore built into the game. It was NOT based off of a true story
Can we talk about Eleanor's nails? They're so pretty!
I'm glad you're like them little too long forme just saying
@@janetrawlings1691 they are for me too but the pattern are so pretty, I wear contacts so I can't have long nails🥲
Yh!?😫
Eleanor is so pretty 😍
@@cherylmayhew8423 very true
As someone who was raised in East Kilbride, this is an extremely surreal experience to hear Eleanor talk about this case. Great content!
I like how she posted part 1 and 2 within 8 hours of each other
Genuinely a tragic case, can we all just take a moment to appreciate how much work goes into these pieces of content! Love the levels of detail you bring to your cases, inspiring to the true crime cases I'm covering for sure!
Woke up to this and am so DANG excited!! I love your energy Eleanor, you are just the top and just such a great role model for retelling true crime for us littler true crime channels. You are lovely! Also a TWO PARTER?!?! You spoil us. 😍
Wow, imagine being killed while you sleep😳You go to bed, start dreaming, and never wake up again😔 So tragic.
omg blessing us with an early morning upload, thank you
I doubt anyone actually leaves when she says "if you don't want to hear about that type of thing, go ahead and click out, Im Sure I'll see you on another video" lol everyone's like pffff that's why I'm here! Gimme the details girrrrl 😜
"That sign won't stop me because I can't read!"
Everyone talked about in this part I just feel so bad for. The young girl who was stood up and then chased and murdered. The boy who stood her up having to live with the guilt that the crime may have never happened if he hadn't done that. The other girl who survived the shot and bled to death slowly after her attack knowing the others in her home were dead or dying. The man on a fishing trip coming home to be told his family was killed and then being blamed for it and threatened with the death sentence. So many people hurt by this and this is just part one!
Scotland is so much more fascinating than most people (I'm speaking as an American) realize. The industrial revolution, and thus essentially modernity, was born from the Scotts.
Eleanor: Scotland has so many serial killers!
Me from Scotland: T_T
Hogmanay is what we call New Years Eve in Scotland 😊
I love Hogmanay. Best New Years night out in Edinburgh
Me: I should go to bed it's already morning 😩
Eleanor at 6 am: *uploads*
Me: Gots to see it through my boy 🥴
Hogmanay is literally what we call New Year's in Scotland. I don't know if everyone does this or if it's just Scottish people but we make a meal and eat it with family. Usually this meal consists of Homemade Steak Pie, Carrots, Peas, Sweet Corn, Gravy, Roast Potatoes and sometimes Pigs in Blankets (sausages wrapped in bacon it's a Christmas food in the UK). It's a good dinner and is just something we do with family every year. I don't know if everyone does this but I know we do.
A second video...girl we ain't worthy 🙌💜💗💕💓💕 NUMBA ONE!!
I know the guy that stood her up sucks for doing so, but I don’t think we should point out things like, “Had he not, she likely would still be alive.” I know he’s a douche but that’s straying towards victim-blaming kind of narratives to me.
No it isn't. It could've saved her if he maybe properly canceled or even if he showed up, maybe she wouldn't have been a target. It's all just opinions. We would never know.
@@jessiejnbaptiste3791 People got stood up a lot in the 50's and 60's, not many homes had phones, so if you did not know where the person lived you had no way of letting them know you would not be showing up. It was a first date so he probably had no idea of where she lived.
Also they had arranged to meet at a bus stop, when he didn't show up, she caught a later bus and went to the dance alone.
THANK YOU.
jesus christ, El, I just saw that you posted 14 hours ago and was like "sweet new content" AND THEN I saw this video was posted literally 15 minutes ago!!
girl you need a break!!
Patreons get it early
Thank you for yet another great video. Oh my goodness, this case just gave me so many shivers and such a sickening feeling at the pit of my stomach. What an evil evil man. I was actually binge watching some of your videos. You are fabulous. Keep them coming. Definitely love how you put your videos together as you are so descriptive and as someone who is totally blind audio is so important, and your videos are awesome. Thanks for being so inclusive. X
Just found Eleanor like a month ago and now I watch her every morning before work. 😅🥺 can't wait for part 2!! ❣💞💝 keep up the great work beautiful!!
He used to say to my great gran be careful there’s a dangerous man going about here
Rolling over and waking up to Eleanor... am I dreaming??!! 😍🤗😉
❤🧡💛💚💙💜💋
i hope that guy who stood her up never forgives himself for that😤
You know what's Weird about all of this William Watt Case Sounds Very Similar To Chris Watts Case how he killed his whole family to run away With mistress.
Yeah, I also thought about them. :(
But tbh, I didn't expect William would in fact be guilty, I only kinda expected, that he'd get an alibi from a mistress, he'd spend these days with in that hotel on the fishing trip.
Bc killing his whole family (including his wife's sister) and r*ping his own daughter didn't make any sense to me, if he was successfully having affairs his whole life long without having any problems with his own spouse.
I bet, Chris Watts was basically a virgin, when he met his wife, that's why he was so blown away by his new mistress.
William , where' s yir troosers ?
@@Anita-k Very true!
@@i.rankin6711 Hmm? I don't Know what you mean?
@@beomgyuuuu3895 based on the popular tune - 'Donal' where ' s yir truusers' just a bit of inappropriate humour on suspects' names..
6 am, got my coffe in hand and I'm ready to dive into this case
Let’s all appreciate Eleanor for uploading 2 videos in 24 hours ! Love you girl
I love that you do the disclaimers. Like I usually have no issues, but it’s nice to know that if I’m a little sensitive on a particular topic at the time I find the video I know if I can watch it or not.
Hogmanay is New Year’s Eve! It’s just our term for the holiday 😂 it’s very patriotic on Hogmanay in Scotland, back then especially! Lots of bagpipes, pipers, traditions etc take place on Hogmanay / when the bells go at new year
Hogmanay is what we call New Year’s Eve here in Scotland 😅😂
Elenor: Scotland has a lot of serial killers
Me who’s going to Scotland tomorrow: 😳
OOP-✋🏻😪
Have a safe flight
Thanks
am i the only one that wants Eleanor to have her own show on netflix
I’m so happy that the Eleanor Neale channel isn’t blocked here in Australia
Me too🇭🇲🇭🇲
Why would it be blocked?
Girl is 5:00 a.m. and I was just about to go to sleep but I saw this and I was like you know what who needs sleep
Ive been having a really tough morning, I had to put one of my pets down, so thank you for posting this
aw i’m so sorry! hope you’re feeling better
Aww so sorry for your loss ♥️ true crime and chill with us!
Sorry for your loss I’m sure they were a beautiful animal xx 😚
I'm sending virtual hugs ❤ I'm sorry for you loss hun
So sorry!! 🥲🙏❤️
It's 5 AM for me and I'm just getting ready to sleep, this is perfect, thanks Eleanor
Not us being blessed with ANOTHER Eleanor upload this early in the morning!💕
Stfu
@@justimani8228 nobody asked you to speak x
I don't know why but I have a feeling that the guy who said the man at the pub to not threaten him and that he would regret it might be responsible for it, but I could be wrong.
Seems almost like I woke up just to watch this. Even though it was really to go to work. Cant wait for part 2!
7:45 on a Sunday morning waiting for the client to wake up so I can plaster there front room listening to this 😅🙌
Does anyone else want a nail pic tag for every video so bad that you just pause it at certain points to see if you can see them in detail? Or is that just me 😅
Said it before, I'll say it again: identity parade is a much cooler title than police lineup. I want this universally. Identity parade sounds like an EVENT. 🎉
Idk why Identity Parade sounds like a pride month event to me
@@YesIlikebananasSo that works, too! Lol
Back in the 50s people didn’t have cellphones to easily communicate. What if something had come up in her dates life so that he wasn’t able to make it? Or even if he did just stand her for no good reason, it’s not really an excuse to put him on blast basically insinuating that she’d be alive if it weren’t for him. I’m sure he felt guilty enough
Why are you defending a man
@@rileyswack5402 probably a pick me girl
I just watched some more videos on this case. & whoever killed the Smart family & ate their food actually fed their cat. I just thought that was a very odd bit of Information because usually as you see all so often that It usually starts with them as a child harming animals. The fact this person killed 3 people as they lay sleeping but was affectionate with the cat Is just bizarre.
"another victim family was the smart family"
me: um so you're calling watts dumb?
"dorice smart, her husband-"
me: *oh*
As soon as Eleanor mentioned a fishing trip, I got an ad for fishing booker and my heart dropped😅😅
OMG!!! Whens the next part? Brilliant case Ellie. I love your story-telling, you make really horrible cases easier to bare. Keep it up gorgeous, can't wait till the second part. xx