Drazhar's precision can really help with pain tokens and while +1 to wound looks redundant with the lance after disembarking, his unit wont be hampered by that if you lose the transport.
Great video! Would love to see an Aeldari, Harlequin and Druhkari tier list for a Ynarri army. I know it’d be a massive video, but it’d be very interesting!
Having at least one ravager helps if all your scourges are killed by indirect fire. Oh, and Lelith is anti-infantry 2+. We should have more new units for sure, but it seems we will actually lose units, which is ridiculous. Don't worry though, there was that squats army that everyone was crying out for. Thank God.
I think you are a bit unfair to wracks. They are dirt cheap and screen really well. And you don't mind them dying since just the pain token they give you is worth the 60 points
Idk coming from an Eldar background they seem to die with no purpose because unlike Wytches who can tie up enemies really well (for significantly cheaper) Wracks just don’t do well on that front I just don’t think they are really worth the points but idk I’ve used them a couple of times and have been unimpressed… maybe I’m just not using them to their full potential 🫤
@@ProxyHammer1 I like to think of them as scouts without the infiltrator keyword. They screen well and they give pain tokens on top. They are useful especially vs armies that have a lot of units in reserve, grey knights come to mind. They definitely aren't auto include though and you can make a case for taking other units over them. I also like reavers more but wracks are decent.
@@ProxyHammer1 But Drukhari do need more Characters. Kruellagh Vect Kheradruakh & Invent one or two. Because they are in desperate need of a CP generator.
I think Wracks do have a place in Skysplinter assault, enough to be B tier. 1) They activate the Viscious Blades Stratgem effectively. 5 incubi + Archon + 5 wracks in a Raider usinf Viscious Blades will often deal 5 mortal wounds. Extra style points if you chsrge with the raider + wracks, then wraithlike retreat your incubi into the raider, then activate viscious blades. 2) Skysplinter Pain Token economy can be really tough. Wracks help with that. 3) Theyre OC 2. They make a great "second wave", after you missile some incubi into the enemy, wracks can pop into those venoms and fly around with viscious blades and a tonne of OC. Theyre at least as good as reavers in my book.
Ya maybe I just need to play them more! Truthfully they have lost most engagements I’ve put them in and are 15pts more expensive than 5 Wytches. The pain token is nice but I was running x3 cronos so my pain economy was booming
It does really suck that haemonculus can only join wracks. But even if they could join cronos it wouldn’t be enough. Why can’t they join kabalites? It’s the weird limitations of unit joining.
The Beast pack unit is more than likely not coming back when they get their codex. Again this range needs fleshing out, they have not much to pivot to if suddenly something becomes point costed to oblivion.
The thing is they wouldn't even need to make new minis for Drukhari to get more datasheets. Let's take wracks as an example, we all know for a fact that if they were marines drukhari would have a datasheet for a squad of wracks with only hexrifles, a datasheet for liquifier guns, etc... Just give us special weapons datasheets and a couple characters ! Archons don't even have a special character and incubi dont have a default character it's crazy ! Same for bikers and hoverboards !
@@ProxyHammer1 agreed. I absolutely LOVE wracks my dream would be that they get remade as a box of 10 with all their weapon options. One of my friends used a box of Kairic Acolytes for his wracks (he just had to file the tzeentch heraldry and get his hands on some deldar weapon bits) for one box you get 20 modern plastic bodies it's a steal !
He delivers! Great vid. Edit: Drazar is still tier S imo, obv no Lilith tier, still strong pick, there's been plenty of games where's it's transports has been destroyed in the enemy turn and having it in my turn saved the game.
Skysplinter assault seems good but the downside is having to own enough transports to make it work. Another issue i had in my very limited experience is that playing an armour heavy list makes a lot of the units hard to get use out of. The index encourages spamming the same units which as a casual player doesnt appeal to me. Still love using a lot of them in ynnari though.
Apparently scourges are selling like hot cakes at my flgs. I don't think I want to have to buy four boxes to make a single squad full of dark lances though. So sticking with Skyweavers for now. The new mandrake models are very tempting though. Hopefully they will get a solo release soon.
Skyweavers are just as good in Ynnari imho but ya it’s kind of ridiculous but the good news is that the warrior boxes come with dark lances too that I think are scourge compatible
Yeah, true born, bloodbrides, just like Eldar Exarchs are something we really should have in our index. All we can hope for is that they are in the codex and not a loss to NMNR
Good list but Id put Talos in S tier honestly. It is the only thing in our army that has objective staying and contesting power and has the ability to deal with almot anything. Haywire cannons are stupidly powerful, i warn all my oponents beforehand on what they can do but they still have that look of amazement and awe when i tell them that their vehicle just suffered 12 devastating wounds from a unit of two and its easy to do too when it rerolls hits and wounds with a pain token. flamers help with crap units and their fists melt heavy infantry. I dont know what else to ask from a unit honestly. Oh and of course if it kills something it becomes permanently empowered which is nuts
Ya dude they are really awesome and I like them a whole lot! I think they are better in Realspace Raid but I agree they are fantastic I think if they were a bit faster they would be S tier for me personally in every list I made
Considering the Drukhari roster is so slim, are there any Corsair or Harlequin units you think are worth taking? Actually for that matter, do you know if Death Jester and Voidweaver can generate Pain Tokens with their Battleshocks or does that not work?
Corsair Voidreavers are a consideration but imo not a great one, as for Quins both the Troupe and Troupe master are good choices but the unit that takes it for me is the solitaire who is really awesome Yes the battle shocks for the void and jester also generate pain tokens which is awesome!
I think that the one thing the Drukhari really miss is something that can stand on an objective and stay there. The pain engines get sorta close? Perhaps Grotesques can fit that role if when the dark kin get their codex and the Haemonculus Covens get a detachment that pumps them so full of stims that they can stand there and just tank hits? Something new from those weirdos would be the pipe dream solution to this issue. I'm sure that they can just make a Grotesque bigger, stitch a couple dozen thralls together into a big hunk of meat and combat drugs and set them loose on the battlefield?
i use drazhar as a budget archon if im trying to get an archon in a warrior unit. He is probably A tier in realspace raiders, but i dont play that ever, its so boring next to skyplinter
Played a fun list with drukhari recently vs Dark Angels 3 raiders 3 ravagers 1 VRB 1 Venom Archon with 10 incubi Draz with 10 incubi Lelith with 10 wyches Archon with 5 kabalites and Court Remaining 5 special weapon Kabalites in Venom 5 scourge with DL 5 hellions It was wild how this army devoured terminators in melee. And the ravagers/VRB/scourges was a stupid amount of antitank. Lost 2 raiders early, but all opponent’s efficient antitank was gone by t2, so the remaining raider was able to survive to deliver a different melee unit every turn.
A Ynnari tier list would be great too
Definitely!!
Drazhar's precision can really help with pain tokens and while +1 to wound looks redundant with the lance after disembarking, his unit wont be hampered by that if you lose the transport.
Yes true I don’t think he’s bad but I think in comparison to an archon he is a bit iffy… I like him though he is cool!
Great video! Would love to see an Aeldari, Harlequin and Druhkari tier list for a Ynarri army. I know it’d be a massive video, but it’d be very interesting!
Oh absolutely I’ll try to get that going soon! Was fully intending on making one as well but it got away from me!
Having at least one ravager helps if all your scourges are killed by indirect fire.
Oh, and Lelith is anti-infantry 2+.
We should have more new units for sure, but it seems we will actually lose units, which is ridiculous. Don't worry though, there was that squats army that everyone was crying out for. Thank God.
Lmfao the Dark Eldar are the hated step child of GW I know!! I’m really hoping for a big codex drop with a bunch of new units
I think you're the only person I've heard say the archon looks awesome. The pose is pretty bad and he needs a helmet option IMO
Hoy shit does it look AWESOME as CW player
Easy to convert though!
Ikr?! 😅
I think you are a bit unfair to wracks. They are dirt cheap and screen really well. And you don't mind them dying since just the pain token they give you is worth the 60 points
Idk coming from an Eldar background they seem to die with no purpose because unlike Wytches who can tie up enemies really well (for significantly cheaper) Wracks just don’t do well on that front I just don’t think they are really worth the points but idk I’ve used them a couple of times and have been unimpressed… maybe I’m just not using them to their full potential 🫤
@@ProxyHammer1 I like to think of them as scouts without the infiltrator keyword. They screen well and they give pain tokens on top. They are useful especially vs armies that have a lot of units in reserve, grey knights come to mind. They definitely aren't auto include though and you can make a case for taking other units over them. I also like reavers more but wracks are decent.
Skysplinter Assault does have the Swooping Mockery Strategy for 1 CP so the Ravager can move 6" in to cover.
Yes it does but I believe enemies have to move within a certain range
@@ProxyHammer1 But Drukhari do need more Characters. Kruellagh Vect Kheradruakh & Invent one or two. Because they are in desperate need of a CP generator.
@@b2g7h8 Absolutely agree! I’ve always though that’s what the archon should have done and the Haemunculus have the very ability
I think Wracks do have a place in Skysplinter assault, enough to be B tier.
1) They activate the Viscious Blades Stratgem effectively. 5 incubi + Archon + 5 wracks in a Raider usinf Viscious Blades will often deal 5 mortal wounds. Extra style points if you chsrge with the raider + wracks, then wraithlike retreat your incubi into the raider, then activate viscious blades.
2) Skysplinter Pain Token economy can be really tough. Wracks help with that.
3) Theyre OC 2. They make a great "second wave", after you missile some incubi into the enemy, wracks can pop into those venoms and fly around with viscious blades and a tonne of OC.
Theyre at least as good as reavers in my book.
Ya maybe I just need to play them more! Truthfully they have lost most engagements I’ve put them in and are 15pts more expensive than 5 Wytches. The pain token is nice but I was running x3 cronos so my pain economy was booming
It does really suck that haemonculus can only join wracks. But even if they could join cronos it wouldn’t be enough. Why can’t they join kabalites? It’s the weird limitations of unit joining.
Ya I totally agree only joining wracks to me means they are on the shelf… imagine if they could join Grotesques or Talos!
The Beast pack unit is more than likely not coming back when they get their codex. Again this range needs fleshing out, they have not much to pivot to if suddenly something becomes point costed to oblivion.
I hope not that would absolutely suck… but yes absolutely very little pivot room and pretty one dimensional
The thing is they wouldn't even need to make new minis for Drukhari to get more datasheets. Let's take wracks as an example, we all know for a fact that if they were marines drukhari would have a datasheet for a squad of wracks with only hexrifles, a datasheet for liquifier guns, etc...
Just give us special weapons datasheets and a couple characters ! Archons don't even have a special character and incubi dont have a default character it's crazy ! Same for bikers and hoverboards !
Wracks really need a plstic kit honestly and they need to bring back trueborn and bloodbrides
@@ProxyHammer1 agreed. I absolutely LOVE wracks my dream would be that they get remade as a box of 10 with all their weapon options. One of my friends used a box of Kairic Acolytes for his wracks (he just had to file the tzeentch heraldry and get his hands on some deldar weapon bits) for one box you get 20 modern plastic bodies it's a steal !
@@CatroiOz They will def. get a kill team in the future is my guess
He delivers!
Great vid.
Edit: Drazar is still tier S imo, obv no Lilith tier, still strong pick, there's been plenty of games where's it's transports has been destroyed in the enemy turn and having it in my turn saved the game.
He is really good don’t get me wrong I was just looking at him through the lenses of skysplinter but I should have given him A tier overall probably
@@ProxyHammer1 Your tier list overall is pretty cool.
@@PedroPedro-k9p 😊Ty!!
Skysplinter assault seems good but the downside is having to own enough transports to make it work. Another issue i had in my very limited experience is that playing an armour heavy list makes a lot of the units hard to get use out of. The index encourages spamming the same units which as a casual player doesnt appeal to me. Still love using a lot of them in ynnari though.
Totally agree! It’s definitely a spam playstyle that’s not appealing to a lot of players me included
Apparently scourges are selling like hot cakes at my flgs. I don't think I want to have to buy four boxes to make a single squad full of dark lances though. So sticking with Skyweavers for now. The new mandrake models are very tempting though. Hopefully they will get a solo release soon.
Skyweavers are just as good in Ynnari imho but ya it’s kind of ridiculous but the good news is that the warrior boxes come with dark lances too that I think are scourge compatible
Well if you do buy 4 boxes, you get a squad of Darklances, a squad of Heatlances, and one of Haywires.
@@OniGanon Good point, well made. Still not buying four boxes though 😂😂😂.
@@OniGanon the haywires are absolutely amazing
Yeah, true born, bloodbrides, just like Eldar Exarchs are something we really should have in our index.
All we can hope for is that they are in the codex and not a loss to NMNR
I agree! We need more units in the dex when it comes out we really do!
Good list but Id put Talos in S tier honestly. It is the only thing in our army that has objective staying and contesting power and has the ability to deal with almot anything. Haywire cannons are stupidly powerful, i warn all my oponents beforehand on what they can do but they still have that look of amazement and awe when i tell them that their vehicle just suffered 12 devastating wounds from a unit of two and its easy to do too when it rerolls hits and wounds with a pain token. flamers help with crap units and their fists melt heavy infantry. I dont know what else to ask from a unit honestly. Oh and of course if it kills something it becomes permanently empowered which is nuts
Ya dude they are really awesome and I like them a whole lot! I think they are better in Realspace Raid but I agree they are fantastic I think if they were a bit faster they would be S tier for me personally in every list I made
I’m here still wondering I can’t take Archons on Reiver jets? Seriously? You telling me he’s always on foot? Never anywhere else?
Agreed I think that was really lame they need new models for sure!
Aren't the Reavers part of Wych cult?
Considering the Drukhari roster is so slim, are there any Corsair or Harlequin units you think are worth taking?
Actually for that matter, do you know if Death Jester and Voidweaver can generate Pain Tokens with their Battleshocks or does that not work?
Corsair Voidreavers are a consideration but imo not a great one, as for Quins both the Troupe and Troupe master are good choices but the unit that takes it for me is the solitaire who is really awesome
Yes the battle shocks for the void and jester also generate pain tokens which is awesome!
I had the Kruellagh model... sold her for a nice price too! Wish I hadnt of
she is a gem!
Would you rank reavers or skyweavers higher? You placed them both in A tier in your eldar tier list and here
I would rank the Skyweavers higher but honestly but perform different roles
I think that the one thing the Drukhari really miss is something that can stand on an objective and stay there. The pain engines get sorta close? Perhaps Grotesques can fit that role if when the dark kin get their codex and the Haemonculus Covens get a detachment that pumps them so full of stims that they can stand there and just tank hits? Something new from those weirdos would be the pipe dream solution to this issue. I'm sure that they can just make a Grotesque bigger, stitch a couple dozen thralls together into a big hunk of meat and combat drugs and set them loose on the battlefield?
I’d love to see some additional Haemunculus coven units!! I think it would definitely fix a huge weakness to the DE
Any units you'd change in ynnari? I feel like drazhar and his incubi could be cool coming out of a falcon
He is definitely way better in Ynnari!
I would have to change a bunch of the units honestly!
39:00 give us Lady Malys
Yes!!!
I really hope we don’t lose tantalus. But I suppose I better find a Chinese supplier
When in doubt put your trust in communism!! Seriously though Chinese suppliers are great !
Problem is finding them :'D @@ProxyHammer1
i use drazhar as a budget archon if im trying to get an archon in a warrior unit.
He is probably A tier in realspace raiders, but i dont play that ever, its so boring next to skyplinter
Ya he is much better in real space for sure!
Can't disagree with the vast majority of your opinions.
I think they are relatively accurate based on what I’ve seen and experienced, really don’t like wracks lol 😂
Played a fun list with drukhari recently vs Dark Angels
3 raiders
3 ravagers
1 VRB
1 Venom
Archon with 10 incubi
Draz with 10 incubi
Lelith with 10 wyches
Archon with 5 kabalites and Court
Remaining 5 special weapon Kabalites in Venom
5 scourge with DL
5 hellions
It was wild how this army devoured terminators in melee. And the ravagers/VRB/scourges was a stupid amount of antitank. Lost 2 raiders early, but all opponent’s efficient antitank was gone by t2, so the remaining raider was able to survive to deliver a different melee unit every turn.
That does look really fun! I like the inclusion of the VRB! Definitely want to do a unit review on it!