New Spiritborn Evade Setup for the Upcoming Nerf

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @1ntern
    @1ntern Місяць тому +408

    For me evade build is not about the damage or pushing the pit tiers. It is about the speed and the FUN.

  • @tormgart5137
    @tormgart5137 Місяць тому +64

    Im just sad that they nerfed the speed... zooming threw all of the dungeons was the most fun i ever had in Diablo4...

    • @Gergoool
      @Gergoool Місяць тому

      yes, but the quill volley build just do that with dashing all the time to the next monster

    • @erichicks2357
      @erichicks2357 Місяць тому

      Hacking GTA online and shooting tanks out of my machine gun was the most fun I ever had in GTA!

    • @simhanssens7331
      @simhanssens7331 Місяць тому +3

      @@Gergoool Nah not even close to comparable on speed.

    • @cola263
      @cola263 Місяць тому

      It took me back to d3 that's why I loved it. Speed running through maps crazy fast and killing everything on the way is great

    • @MrRobot864
      @MrRobot864 Місяць тому

      15 november

  • @meitwasnt6705
    @meitwasnt6705 Місяць тому +52

    I dont think it's about the cd. It's about the animation of evade being cancelled by spamming it. The nerf will make you do the full evade animation, even will 0 cd, your atk speed will be fixed.

    • @Vell1981
      @Vell1981 Місяць тому +2

      Yep and the speed through the animation canceling was primary why this build was fun the dmg was secondary.

    • @xSpeakerYT
      @xSpeakerYT Місяць тому +12

      I don't think you understand why he was wanting all the CD on the build.

    • @theovanua
      @theovanua Місяць тому

      With his new build CD is necessary since Sepazontic is gone. Much higher dmg to make up for the loss of speed.

    • @NastaiGaming
      @NastaiGaming Місяць тому +1

      Yep. This. Don't think the build will feel nearly as good as it does now.

    • @yamispade
      @yamispade Місяць тому

      ​@theovanua Which just means it's a weaker Quill build that also now moves as fast as any other spiritborn build but slower than Sorcs.

  • @kompott_addict
    @kompott_addict Місяць тому +97

    One could say, people are gonna EVADE this build now. Badoom tss

  • @budz-nt3rf
    @budz-nt3rf Місяць тому +14

    wish there was armory so we could keep the build for mindless helltiding or other easy tasks.

    • @Thallium212
      @Thallium212 Місяць тому +3

      It’s killing me that it is STILL not a thing. I’m making another SB just to try different builds without all the hassle.

  • @Travnorton5
    @Travnorton5 Місяць тому +2

    I just found Shako from a pit run last night, my first mythic, and very good timing for this. Thanks!

    • @JodouTR
      @JodouTR Місяць тому

      T1 or higher? I can currently clear T4 but missing resist cap to make it a smooth process and die occasionally.

  • @JonathanVanSmith
    @JonathanVanSmith Місяць тому +129

    The gear requirements to make up for the damage loss is just unrealistic for the VAST MAJORITY of players. The reason people enjoyed the evade build was because all you need, literally, was the Sepazontec. It wasn't uber strong on gets outpaced after T2 but that just tells you that most players don't enjoy the early progression and want it sped up.

    • @PostprandialTorpor
      @PostprandialTorpor Місяць тому +7

      Sad Diablo dads everywhere

    • @YeastyBoy
      @YeastyBoy Місяць тому +5

      @@PostprandialTorpor can confirm. 😢😢

    • @rofls06
      @rofls06 Місяць тому

      Plus it's another build dependant on a bugged legendary node and all these other bugs that come with it. I bet it will be fixed in the mid season patch and all these high DPS builds will crumble.

    • @anonsidious358
      @anonsidious358 Місяць тому +1

      @@rofls06 If the "buggy" nodes are not running other player experience they have said they would not do nerfs mid season. If people shift and work and get this setup he lays out and they decide to nerf thier showcased class for this expansion they will see a revolt worse than season 1.

    • @rofls06
      @rofls06 Місяць тому +2

      @@anonsidious358 there is a difference between nerfing and fixing. get it straight.

  • @ViktorFoka
    @ViktorFoka Місяць тому +2

    Really appreciate the guide, yesterday I was confused on why I was following a build that has changed out of nowhere, then realized it was a pre-patch change. Evade build seems super strong now, but gameplay wise it seems so boring. Not only you are moving slowly-ish, but the dynamic is not there anymore. Two minutes and a half to kill a P100 Boss when we have Crushing Hands and Quill Volley (pre patch BTW, QV is getting its double cast from weapon fixed) and others spamming Rift 150, feels like Evade is gone to a ton of players.
    At least lag will be reduced, but don't think I'm giving a try to this one again, watching you trying out P85 and P100 was boring (not the content, but the dynamics of the gameplay), doing it will be even worse. Time to find my new build! Thank god we use Shako for CH build, this way at least I can keep mine.

  • @a2daj83
    @a2daj83 Місяць тому +23

    yeah, this aint happening for most people. its basically a dead build unless you just happen to have some incredible gear laying around in your stash. if you already had this gear you were probably already doing it this way anyway. rip

    • @mdtsstuff
      @mdtsstuff Місяць тому

      Yeah, no. 6 EOM .runes and a handful of blues and yellows, and you got your Shako for 5k gold. The only "difficult" item to get and you can farm it in the out
      You already get the two respeldent sparks you need from the season journey

  • @KyronLee
    @KyronLee Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the videos Rax. First time I ever outsourced playing information and I chose you. Just leveling guide. I played last season but entering expansion threw me off a bit.
    ❤🎉

  • @NeillSmith
    @NeillSmith Місяць тому +14

    Seems like even higher gear requirements than the core skills builds for worse results.

    • @godofm3tal1
      @godofm3tal1 Місяць тому +2

      Imagine not having the end game handed to you for free. Just imagine.

    • @Ccubed92
      @Ccubed92 Місяць тому

      ​@@godofm3tal1 I mean it is with these bugged exploit builds they are making

  • @phunkym8
    @phunkym8 Місяць тому +5

    everybody is freaking out about sparks yet the runes are the real problem

  • @Widikus.
    @Widikus. Місяць тому +18

    As others have already stated it's not really about the damage, its primarily just the speed. It felt amazing to blast through all content except mythic bosses/95+ pits. Without the zoom zoom this build just isn't all that fun anymore and you might as well just play one of the other ridiculously strong spiritborn builds.

    • @godofm3tal1
      @godofm3tal1 Місяць тому

      Why would you want to blast through content? There are games out there where you just walk around aimlessly not actually engaging with anything around you. Seems asinine to buy a game and go to maxroll or whatever else and follow a guide that allows you to not play that game.

    • @TheDuemaster
      @TheDuemaster Місяць тому +3

      @@godofm3tal1I have fun playing something that makes me feel strong? Why would I want to play jank. I don’t have the time to theorycraft, I just want to kill demons.

    • @Widikus.
      @Widikus. Місяць тому

      @@godofm3tal1 By the time you get to the point of having this build up and running you've likely already done all the content the game has to offer for the most part. So when you're at the point of grinding the same content over and over the speed makes it feel significantly more satisfying to do in my opinion. I've played almost every season so far so it's not like I'm going into season 6 without having played the game.

    • @yamispade
      @yamispade Місяць тому +2

      ​@@godofm3tal1 Why use a mount to travel when you can just walk/run places.

    • @Allicat
      @Allicat Місяць тому +1

      @@godofm3tal1 This is such a weird take. Why is following a build guide allowing someone to "not play the game"? Literally makes no sense. I follow build guides because I'm not a theorycrafter, but I also find builds I think I will have fun with, rather than rolling with whatever is meta no matter what. People are allowed to play however the hell they want. Stop trying to control how others play a game, lol, it's weird. The only thing that matters is the individual person having fun and feeling like they are getting their money's worth. If they aren't, well, that still isn't your concern, is it?

  • @andysampa
    @andysampa Місяць тому +5

    THANKS Raxx. I was almost giving up. Took a time to build it and you show us that we can keep the build. Always supporting your channel from BRAZIL!

    • @waltercoyle6393
      @waltercoyle6393 Місяць тому

      "Took a time to build it..."
      How long has this expansion been out?

    • @andysampa
      @andysampa Місяць тому

      @@waltercoyle6393 for me that work and have 2 kids, 1 week is a lot of time

  • @gisellewong4057
    @gisellewong4057 Місяць тому

    I started the season as a sorc and will be making a SB soon, so this is good to know. Thanks Raxx!

  • @maciej478
    @maciej478 Місяць тому +2

    Im going to EVADE this season and wait for poe2 !!

  • @bongchoof
    @bongchoof Місяць тому +60

    Clicked off the video as soon as I saw that 44% CD Shako. The build is dead then for most normal players running it. Also, it uses that resolve stacking that EVERY build uses along with the broken Vicious Shield. Stacking stats is so frustrating because it leads to bricking so many items.

    • @yamispade
      @yamispade Місяць тому

      Its dead regardless, Noone played it for the damage, they played it to zoom around the map with the tradeoff being lower damage that's on pay with standard A tier list.

    • @raymondvandenbos1271
      @raymondvandenbos1271 Місяць тому

      Go cry its kinda easy to get ga cd shako this season

    • @Mordwyn11
      @Mordwyn11 Місяць тому

      Huh? How slow are "normal" people u think? A tripple cdr shako is so easy to get this season....

  • @stevenr5772
    @stevenr5772 Місяць тому +44

    Tormented bosses haven't dropped me a spark yet either

    • @klooks
      @klooks Місяць тому +3

      And they won't as they no longer do, THE ONLY BOSS that drops sparks is Lilith now, that is a feature not a bug as mythics only take 2 sparks not 4 now.

    • @stevenr5772
      @stevenr5772 Місяць тому +8

      7:54

    • @derekbridgerii2102
      @derekbridgerii2102 Місяць тому +5

      I've had very few Mythic drops myself. I dont know about yall but junk mythics are just called "sparks".

    • @BH-zo4nq
      @BH-zo4nq Місяць тому +1

      @@klooks Pretty sure I got my second spark from my first tormented boss

    • @klooks
      @klooks Місяць тому

      ​@@BH-zo4nq prolly thinking of last season lol

  • @FlashySenap
    @FlashySenap Місяць тому +1

    I am willing to test this build out. But I don't think I will enjoy it as much. The very idea to just zoom through a dungeon in seconds and kill everything at the same time was the thing that I enjoyed the most. The speed was my crack cocaine and now I'm gonna be in enduring a massive withdrawal DX

  • @jrl5k
    @jrl5k Місяць тому

    I hit 61% CDR and build is still good enough for me. Thanks Raxx for the theorycrafting

  • @Notfallhamster
    @Notfallhamster Місяць тому +4

    Imagine blizz didn't fix the reset when you use the aspect that makes you a swarm of bats.

    • @zaann1550
      @zaann1550 Місяць тому

      Exactly, this has always been a bug, but now its a problem

  • @TinManOutdoors
    @TinManOutdoors Місяць тому

    Dayam, thanky Brother! Great news! I have been a yelling and hollering idiot since I read the patch notes, and seeing your build makes my Wife's ears alot happier🤣🤣🤣...Cheers, kudos, and cheers again🍻🍻

  • @damienkrawczuk1435
    @damienkrawczuk1435 Місяць тому

    I know it's irrelevant to this but your pizza hut story was hilarious 😅 it cracked me up good, and you've given me some great ideas for my own builds with this, great vid! Love your work

  • @JThelen1031
    @JThelen1031 Місяць тому

    Hey Raxx, just did Uber Lillith on T1, it does complete the challenge that rewards a Resplendant Spark now. Cheers and thanks for the tip.

  • @SevenBlades
    @SevenBlades Місяць тому +1

    Honestly the evade build felt like a cool zoom build more than a be all end all endgame crusher.

  • @Ketonomics
    @Ketonomics Місяць тому +2

    I was playing evade and had already started grabbing quill volley gear. It’s worth it to make the change. Quill volleys power level is so higher in comparison. Both are fun, but in the end I think quill is worth the change with the fix incoming.

    • @elestra1504
      @elestra1504 Місяць тому

      Quill is slow AF compared to Evade and Crushing Hand

    • @Ketonomics
      @Ketonomics Місяць тому

      @@elestra1504 Anything is slow compared to Evade, but the power level is so much higher. I am completing 110s minutes faster with quill, then with evade. Cant speak on Crushing hand. Quill bounces around, so its pretty quick.

    • @Touchin-Grass
      @Touchin-Grass Місяць тому

      ​@elestra1504 No, it's not... I tele across the map and clear as quick as evade build. I do more damage as well.

    • @godofm3tal1
      @godofm3tal1 Місяць тому

      Bros out there one shotting everything and asking about how he can do more damage.

  • @skikke18
    @skikke18 Місяць тому

    Okay, now i have nice use for my GA cdr shako. Nice job Rax

  • @MatthewCannon-b8w
    @MatthewCannon-b8w Місяць тому +9

    I didn’t get a spark from Lilith (killed her twice on torment 1) or from any of the 300+ tormented boss runs I’ve done (including a couple in torment 4).

    • @CJW0056
      @CJW0056 Місяць тому

      There's a retro change in the patch that'll address that

    • @droid5785
      @droid5785 Місяць тому

      Some ppl under a rock idk how they are on UA-cam and don't know this lmao ​@@CJW0056

    • @marcottm25
      @marcottm25 Місяць тому

      Yeah me too

  • @Tyrineal
    @Tyrineal 9 днів тому

    I just picked up the expansion and I honestly though what I was seeing tonight was pre-nerf, it is insanely powerful I can't imagine that it was actually stronger at one point as currently I'm one shotting groups with a single evade

  • @onceuponatimeonearth
    @onceuponatimeonearth Місяць тому +7

    Can confirm T1 Lilith drops the spark. That's how I got it last week. Then a seperate spark for the season and for a T4 ladder boss. I now have 3 sparks.

  • @kevinparker5738
    @kevinparker5738 Місяць тому

    so glad to hear that the only thing I need to keep running this build is a fully masterworked cd reduction shako (or insanely lucky GA cd reduction drops on half my equipment). My build is definitely not dead, I just need to farm glyphs for the next seven years!

  • @ChaosWolfGames
    @ChaosWolfGames Місяць тому

    Hey raxx this is Chaoswolf(Dulmagus) is my character name for D4 I just wanted to say that the eagle evade spirtborn I followed the build on maxroll but I'm using sep-tec with skulls for life on kill fists of fate undying amulet starlight ring and band of firs breath items are not optim by any means im paragon 55 and almost single handely took out ashava on T1 Yea build is not nursed or I don't think so
    Thank you and insane Bob SO Much for this build AKARAT INNA and the others would be SO Proud of your accomplishments.

  • @LightNovelEnthusiast
    @LightNovelEnthusiast Місяць тому +20

    It's a shame that all spiritborn builds thus far take advantage of the resolve/block chance bug. I thought the evade build was different than the overpower build but seeing Raxx with 24 resolve stacks and the same aspects and paragon focus was quite the let down. Is anyone even theorycrafting builds with the new class that dont rely on bug damage?

    • @trxe420
      @trxe420 Місяць тому +3

      Doesn't seem like it, but I look forward to you building one and sharing it here :) Maybe a Gorillapede build.

    • @godofm3tal1
      @godofm3tal1 Місяць тому

      No. Cuz we live in a generation of participation trophy pansies. Nobody actually wants to be challenged, they just want to get all the shit for free and say they played their best.

    • @JodouTR
      @JodouTR Місяць тому +2

      My wife ragequit after the build she wanted to play just wasn't panning out and she saw just how much fun I was having with evade spam. Blizz really painted people into a corner this expansion, for better or worse.

    • @bongchoof
      @bongchoof Місяць тому

      I wonder how long Blizz has been balancing Spiritborn with those bugs in place. Would they even do good damage with those bugs fixed? I can't build craft in this game. Too many disparate pieces.

  • @AYMUHAISEN
    @AYMUHAISEN Місяць тому +3

    Hi Raxx
    Thanks so much for the updated build, I have a major problem with evade cooldown as it doesn't reset fast and I have to wait for about 2-3 seconds.
    what am I missing here ? how do you keep evading
    Thanks again

    • @kieranblachford5154
      @kieranblachford5154 Місяць тому +1

      Put thunderspike on your bars it will fix it

    • @AYMUHAISEN
      @AYMUHAISEN Місяць тому

      @@kieranblachford5154 It does not work with the legendary wepon

    • @furiouschicken8202
      @furiouschicken8202 Місяць тому +1

      You probably have the Juggernaut Aspect equipped. It increases the evade cooldown by 100%.

    • @HatredLLC
      @HatredLLC Місяць тому

      Not enough cdr

    • @terrorking8893
      @terrorking8893 Місяць тому

      you need 4 evade charges and at least 62% cdr

  • @Maksifron
    @Maksifron Місяць тому

    I have noticed that everything you said in the video was already in the guide on maxroll :D if you build the toon like in the guide there is no problem with anything, sepazontec and other things resets the cdr on evade so you always have it on, just can't spam the button for it.

  • @GameZB0nd
    @GameZB0nd Місяць тому

    I don't know how meta this may be but I added a little sorciness to my spiritborn.
    I run a jag/gorilla build with Aldkin/Raheir. I playtested the meteor rune when moving 5 meters+ added lightning 🪶s to my extra evades. With evade cooldown buff it can look like the sky is falling ☄️+🌠 plays and looks good in action imo

  • @FieseFliese
    @FieseFliese Місяць тому +10

    When D4 launched i was one of the players who was super exicted to play the WW Barb and then got rekt by all the nerfs.
    This nerf feels just like back then, so D4 got killed for me... again.
    A lot of the people already wrote it here and i just can confirm it. Its not about the dmg its about the speed and fun.
    So lets hope for the goblin blaster next season

    • @danlufc95
      @danlufc95 Місяць тому

      Was a bug fix, not a nerf. It was literally making servers unstable.

    • @deadpool5264
      @deadpool5264 Місяць тому

      ​​@@danlufc95never had a problem, neither any of my friends.
      Maybe they should update their servers, instead of "Bugfixing" .
      Animation cancel is a tale old as the fire, almost every game had it.

    • @danlufc95
      @danlufc95 Місяць тому

      @@deadpool5264 Me and mine had multiple dc’s on both console and pc due to the bug so it was definitely a problem. Not had any today with it being fixed. Spend money updating servers or fix a bug to get the same outcome? lol. No company has perfect servers.

    • @deadpool5264
      @deadpool5264 Місяць тому

      @@danlufc95 yeah ur right, spend money that they get from us to deliver a better performance for us. But I think this logic doesn't apply to Blizzard, since they don't give a shit about their customers.
      And ik a lot of Smaller companies that have way more stable servers with less money and games to get that money from.

    • @danlufc95
      @danlufc95 Місяць тому

      @@deadpool5264 For the most part the servers have been stable though. The build was bugged, quite badly, so they fixed it. And no indie company with the player count blizzard can pull have the servers to cope with that load. Wayfinder is a perfect example to that. So much so they had to completely change their game.

  • @plague6079
    @plague6079 20 днів тому

    not the one button build but Super Strong! Nice Raxx

  • @pokenshin
    @pokenshin Місяць тому +29

    The age old lesson with blizzard games: play as soon as possible on new releases to exploit the broken builds, be miles ahead of everyone that didn't use it when they nerf it.

    • @sstruve1
      @sstruve1 Місяць тому +2

      this! I am maybe about 10h in, P110, just switched to evade eagle, had one 2h session of tons of fun last night, i audible giggled. Now, people with p250 will simply regear, but I am not eve n near that

    • @Neonmirrorblack
      @Neonmirrorblack Місяць тому +2

      Yep. Exploit early and often...because it's going to get fixed.
      Once Blizzard actually moves the decimal point on Viscous Shield, there's going to be a lot of tears.

    • @XerXcho
      @XerXcho Місяць тому +1

      Yeah i played all the content already with it

    • @Vell1981
      @Vell1981 Місяць тому +2

      It is a Bug so according to you Blizzard should only fix bugs that are not fun in the first place. 🤦‍♂

    • @pokenshin
      @pokenshin Місяць тому +3

      @@Vell1981 No. My point is blizzard should've fixed this on day 1 or better yet during PTR, because that's the whole point of spoiling the expansion.
      I can only speculate that it wasn't fixed because so many streamers were playing it and it looked so goofy/powerful that brought people into the game.
      It's the exact modus operandi of the Dungeon Experience drama on the launch of WoW's The War Within. People from early access leveled dozen of toons during the weeks it took Blizzard to nerf it and people who bought the standard edition got stuck with "regular" dungeons.

  • @chrisds4242
    @chrisds4242 Місяць тому +2

    They broke my thunderspike build with their evade nerf. I’m furious…
    Power, gone, speed, gone… ultimate cooldown was nearly zero due to evade cooldown with flickerstep… so many hours, down the drain.
    Tier 57 in the pit, now I can’t mangage a 10.’
    That’s it, I’m out
    So sorry I bought VoHl f@ck I’m mad

  • @AdhalMK1
    @AdhalMK1 Місяць тому

    as someone who doesnt have the time to rebuild every 3 days, im just gonna take a break for a few days after patch before i decide what to do. just stacking mats and levels for now

  • @Veliconis
    @Veliconis Місяць тому +2

    Needing a Shako for this is gonna make getting this up and running quite difficult unless you're super lucky. >.>
    On another note: it's not "Vicious Shield." It's "vi-skuhs."
    So long as nothing gets nerfed that will affect this build, I'll go after it if I ever get a Shako.

    • @Thecelestial1
      @Thecelestial1 Місяць тому +1

      I say it 'viss kiss'

    • @Veliconis
      @Veliconis Місяць тому

      Sounds the same way both ways. :D

  • @DamReapr
    @DamReapr Місяць тому +40

    I'm still waiting for my resplendent spark that I haven't gotten yet for killing my first tormented boss

    • @Mike-om4tv
      @Mike-om4tv Місяць тому +1

      I got one from Lilith, and from the end of the season journey reward. Are we supposed to get one from a tormented boss?

    • @DeathComeInPeace
      @DeathComeInPeace Місяць тому +2

      You'll get it by next dlc

    • @MessyBandit23
      @MessyBandit23 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Mike-om4tv Your first T4 Tormented Boss gives you a spark, I know it is bugged for some just like Lilith is. I got my spark from the T4 Boss, but nothing from Lilith.

    • @Rothbard_is_God8082
      @Rothbard_is_God8082 Місяць тому +2

      Same. Killed all the tormented bosses and Uber Lilith. No reslendent spark.

    • @DamReapr
      @DamReapr Місяць тому

      @@MessyBandit23 it says after you slay your first tormented boss, doesn't say it has to be a T4 boss- who the hell knows

  • @Thun777
    @Thun777 Місяць тому +10

    Only reason why spiritborn are so powerful compared to other classes is that every build is exploiting the same bugs with the shield legendary and stacking +block above 100% and getting insane crit damage from the aspect. I’m playing a spiritborn and I really hope they fix those bugs, all other classes just feels inferior because of them

  • @Munushew
    @Munushew Місяць тому

    I love how we can still hit super high damage number. And this is after the "stat squish".

  • @klooks
    @klooks Місяць тому

    YES LOVE THIS! THE SERVERS ARE SLOWLY DYING! The bugs and stuff not working and glitching out like totems of akarat not being on the map in some spots intermittently or how goblins drop zero loot sometimes and opals don't increase any drop zakrum remnants STILL

  • @Stefiou974
    @Stefiou974 Місяць тому +1

    While I can understand the frustration of the majority of player wanting to play a "sh'm'up simulator", I'm glad they are fixing the (non intended) evade animation cancel. Because now, that's something that I can enjoy playing. Never been a fan of playing the meta or cheating in games, which is basically the same thing in this genre LUL

  • @bagboybrown
    @bagboybrown Місяць тому

    The number shortening is gonna be great. Also, you forgot that players are able to go over 100% block chance so that nerf is gonna hurt too.

  • @trxe420
    @trxe420 Місяць тому +1

    Raxx, you are awesome for doing this. The build is still going to slap, but the whole point was the zoomies not the dps really, at least for me. Still though, excellent guide and explanation.

  • @IDislikeTheNewYoutube
    @IDislikeTheNewYoutube Місяць тому

    Raxx says "just get a shako". There is surely a space inbetween everybody having multiple mythics and nobody having them. And right now, nobody has them.

    • @StegosaurusRex
      @StegosaurusRex Місяць тому

      I know right, hes like just farm runes in the undercity...like ya sure but at max they drop 4 or 5 and their are like what 45 at different rarity? Ya super easy....

  • @yamispade
    @yamispade Місяць тому

    The ability to move quickly through pits and around the map while mowing down mobs is the point of Evade build. If it becomes just a weaker Quill damage output build that can move slower than Red Wedding/Jon Snow Sorcs, its not really viable anymore for why it was a desirable build. Its nice to see theres a way to play it still even if its effectively no longer worth playing for the reason people were playing it to begin with.

  • @XerXcho
    @XerXcho Місяць тому +5

    Shouldn't we just wait for the evade change to drop to be sure how it performs?

    • @Sinuvil
      @Sinuvil Місяць тому

      just play it and wait the evade animation as rax has done it in the vid, then you know how it will feel

    • @BH-zo4nq
      @BH-zo4nq Місяць тому +2

      I mean it's pretty easy to test how it will work, since the only thing they're changing is you can't evade again until you've completed an evade

    • @yamispade
      @yamispade Місяць тому +2

      ​@@BH-zo4nqAka they're killing the point of the builds entire purpose as you'll now be weaker than the insta 1 tap Quill builds but move just as fast as them but with a roll every 1.7 seconds. So you'll even be slower than Dance of Knives Rogues/Red Wedding Sorcs and weaker than 1 Tap Quill builds.

    • @BH-zo4nq
      @BH-zo4nq Місяць тому

      @@yamispade Yes.... Idk what your comment has to do with mine

    • @yamispade
      @yamispade Місяць тому

      @@BH-zo4nq You said the only thing they're changing is that the way the build works with evade with it being slower via having to wait until the Evade CD finishes. My reply was thats what they're changing is the point of playing the build as the understanding was you move fast but will probably not solo Teir 4 tormented bosses or do high tier pits due to damage not being high enough to down them comparable to Quill builds that essentially 1 tap the bosses but aren't dashing through the map at the speed of or or faster than a mount like the Evade build.

  • @cargelock
    @cargelock Місяць тому +1

    Is there a setting, or something you can do with your computer, that allows you to hold down the space bar (evade) and it will just evade constantly? Doesn't seem like there is a way to "channel" evade, it's just lots of pushing (which is fine, but would be nice to not).

    • @fatandfluffy220
      @fatandfluffy220 Місяць тому +1

      Of course. Download auto hotkey and map a macro on repeat to your key of choice. Just make sure that the delay between presses is realistic. 90% of the reason for the nerf to dodge was because people were using macros that could activate the skill faster than any human was capable of doing and the second you get 2 or more people running that it would lag every other player in the server. I tried to keep it to 3 presses per second to not be a dick. But yeah it's definitely possible

  • @Kinjara
    @Kinjara Місяць тому +4

    The average player is not going to be able to simply swap to a Shaco unless their build is already way into deep T4 content. Anyone still stuck in t1/t2/t3 is going to feel easily a 90% nerf. If you're able to spam an evade every 50ms now and its going to be somewhere north of 500ms then well.. its gonna feel really bad. I appreciate seeing the pivot and im going to wait until thursday to swap to quill rain, but I really dont think this build is going to be played by the vast majority of players anymore.

    • @godofm3tal1
      @godofm3tal1 Місяць тому +1

      End game was never intended for the "average" player. Be exceptional. Start by doing your own build and stop logging into maxroll

    • @Kinjara
      @Kinjara Місяць тому +2

      @@godofm3tal1 If youre here watching this video youre likely an average player.

    • @kevinparker5738
      @kevinparker5738 Місяць тому

      I'm fairly deep into t4 content (50-60 solo boss kills) and I haven't had one mythic unique drop, and I'm nowhere near the rune requirements for crafting. I definitely have to play a different build, at least until I get runes for a shako or it drops through sheer luck. Mythics are so much harder this season

    • @Ccubed92
      @Ccubed92 Місяць тому

      Endgame wasn't intended for you and 99 percent of others. Yal just got their with a bigger out build

    • @Kinjara
      @Kinjara Місяць тому

      @@Ccubed92 I can assure you that I am one of the endgame players and this change wont affect me since im on a diff build anyways. But I do agree with you, this build carried people to highs they normally wouldnt have gotten

  • @TFCxSwagx7
    @TFCxSwagx7 Місяць тому +1

    since they are slowing down the evade, you actually need much less cooldown than you do now, so you probably wont need to try very hard to hit the cooldown requirement and can fit more offensive tempers

  • @crosis2
    @crosis2 Місяць тому

    Finally my pet will be able to pick up all the materials instead of despawning in front of it because I've travelled through 3/4th of the dungeon

  • @WarriorDogz
    @WarriorDogz Місяць тому +1

    This is Blizzard telling me once again not to have fun with their game so I'll wait for POE2 where I have player agency

  • @Bumlock
    @Bumlock Місяць тому

    If you're going to do the resolve stacking, I feel you might as well just play quill volley since you dash between targets anyway so the speed is comprable. Then you just end up 1 shotting anything you run into, even bosses, which would make quill volley net faster anyways.
    Also, there are version of resolve stacking that do not require any mythics, like the mystic circle version, that actually hit for trillions. So this may be easier/harder depening on what type of player you are.

  • @apoc5412
    @apoc5412 Місяць тому +3

    Evade build is the most fun build I've played in D4, its awesome for speed farming but struggles against high hp pool bosses later endgame. I really hope they don't totally annihilate this awesome sonic build, it is just super fun 👌

    • @yamispade
      @yamispade Місяць тому

      Sadly it's dead unless you want to play a weaker Quill build that rolls every 1.7 seconds vs instantly.

  • @milo7463
    @milo7463 Місяць тому

    My build was not even close to power level as yours but after nerf today I managed to kill Uber Lilith within like 4 tries. Last time I fought Lilith was at the end of D4 campaign when the game got released. The only issue were these blue projectiles. I can still run through stuff without any issues. It's just not as fast so not as fun as it used to be. Wish it was faster to play. It was so refreshing to play something like this after going necro like 3 times. Its still way way faster than necro but damn I'm gonna miss this so bad.

  • @Thrice_1904
    @Thrice_1904 Місяць тому +2

    It’s not a nerf. It’s fixing the evade animation. How it is intended.

    • @Daft_Ideas
      @Daft_Ideas Місяць тому

      If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

    • @Thrice_1904
      @Thrice_1904 Місяць тому

      @@Daft_Ideas this reply means nothing.

    • @Daft_Ideas
      @Daft_Ideas Місяць тому

      @@Thrice_1904 it means a fix can be a nerf and vice versa.

  • @zacharybrowning4918
    @zacharybrowning4918 Місяць тому

    The evade build now feels like playing Pac-Man when the ghosts start running. I’ll miss that.

    • @robertwelch1443
      @robertwelch1443 Місяць тому +1

      That’s exactly what I was telling people 😂 So fun. Exactly like pac-man when you look at the mini map.. and then you get the 3d version when you look at your screen

  • @tomtom2052
    @tomtom2052 Місяць тому +1

    so why is their inner calm aspect on ring now? 13?% dmg, triple is stand still for 3sec. When do you ever stand still with this build?

  • @vincentnguyen4375
    @vincentnguyen4375 Місяць тому

    You can just get a CDR GA amulet and triple crit evade cooldown along with resolve and a GA CDR Rak that put you at 72.8% CDR. Use a Legendary Resolve helm or Hier of predition instead. My crit with Fist of faith is 50-100b.

  • @majorca619
    @majorca619 Місяць тому +1

    Nice cooldown 😎

  • @Batlas
    @Batlas Місяць тому +1

    my friends got 2 resplendent. 1 from ubers and 1 from lilith when I ran them through both. I only got the 1 from the season journey. They hadn't competed the journey yet as they just finished the new campaign. I was :salty:

  • @theMisfit81
    @theMisfit81 Місяць тому +1

    Appreciate the effort, but i just switched to Touch of Death, no need to ride a dead Horse.

  • @chrispierce1454
    @chrispierce1454 Місяць тому

    Yes speed has been so fun zipping around, sad day. Im going to try crushing next

  • @alb3rth0fmann
    @alb3rth0fmann Місяць тому +1

    Raxx how does this actually perform now that the patch is live?

  • @Crazy_Charlito
    @Crazy_Charlito Місяць тому

    I wish they had a "Chance to Evade Twice" temper for boots.

  • @TpPO79
    @TpPO79 Місяць тому +2

    I agree with others here, the fun was the speed of moving through stuff. If I just want to hit hard there are lots of builds for that.

  • @Daft_Ideas
    @Daft_Ideas Місяць тому

    As I said in other post, I'm not good at builds...but it looked to me like there might be some mileage in a Thorns build using Spiritborn...utilising some of the skills/codexes that give thorns damage a bonus based on movement speed...or am I just seeing things?
    What character has the best thorns build right now, and is it any good?

  • @Daft_Ideas
    @Daft_Ideas Місяць тому

    I never did get a Sepazontec to try this out 😢 but I did make a rubbish version of it (I'm not good at builds, I get information overload and can't seem to "see" the big combos) using a pair of boots that gave +2 evade charges...it got me through Torment 1 at least.
    Short version; I'm sure there'll be plenty of life in the Spiritborn yet; I doubt Blizzard would be so short-sighted as to kill their new prize pig this early on.
    D'you ever wonder whether they sit around on launch day of new content and think "Hey, let's watch them use the clever new "resolve" mechanic we created to get the big damage", but then at the end they are all like "Evade? They're using evade? Bloody players eh? I never saw that coming..."😂

  • @ChadThurston
    @ChadThurston Місяць тому

    .. yeah I was already do this as I thought this would be the outcome

  • @sgtSerGUNt
    @sgtSerGUNt Місяць тому +2

    Where would this build be when vicious shield and block chance are fixed?

  • @arsene_7
    @arsene_7 Місяць тому +1

    Raxx, u mentioned u are constantly giving feedback to blizzard, please let them know that we as players (proofs in comments below) love that typ of build. Good visual, momentum, using abilities in completely different (and fun!) way than they were designed for. Mostly important u feel like u cracked the game. Godly feeling.

  • @theguyinurbed
    @theguyinurbed Місяць тому +1

    Oof. That showcase was rough. You can obviously fix the damage, but this new gear requirement for the build, and the insane reduction at how fast the build is has totally killed my interest in this build.
    What a shame :(

  • @yestonb1117
    @yestonb1117 Місяць тому

    You can equip metamorphosis now to practice with the new animation

  • @fabienb
    @fabienb Місяць тому

    I have worked round the bugs and done all the season journey and all the new activities, I’m not going to waste time trying to masterwork unachievable gear to a T… See you all in season 7 folks!

  • @AlanSmithee-r3t
    @AlanSmithee-r3t Місяць тому +3

    Midnight Sun is a solid choice if you're struggling with cdr. You don't get any benefit from the unique aspect, but it's still got crit chance, crit damage, dex and cdr.

    • @Hakkdunu
      @Hakkdunu Місяць тому

      you loose your storm feather temper too, but for the road to cdr it might still be viable. thanks for the tip, gotta try it out till i find my amulet

    • @AlanSmithee-r3t
      @AlanSmithee-r3t Місяць тому

      @@Hakkdunu The storm feather potency temper isn't a great loss, it's like 50 or so when you've already got hundreds, but yeah it's just a stopgap measure til you can get a good ammy and MW everything

  • @druu988
    @druu988 28 днів тому

    Keep in mind folks in order to do this you need to be unemployed like this guy and have nothing going on because you need a master work at 12 out of 12 all the stuff takes hours and hours of time that we don’t have

  • @cody5780
    @cody5780 Місяць тому

    Seems like regular quill shot gonna be better now

  • @Ephiji
    @Ephiji Місяць тому

    The point of playing this build instead of quill volley is to zoom around, if that's gone there's no reason to play this build instead of the one that deals 10 times the damage. And remember to achieve the numbers he's showing and perma evading you need an insane amount of cdr, he has shako with triple masterwork bonus on CDR which is insane to get.
    Sadly blizzard is killing the fun, at least for the majority of players that cannot afford to spend hours to either get 3 masterworks on cdr of shako or shako with GA (and probably 2 GA)

  • @savingstumps
    @savingstumps Місяць тому +2

    why inner calm when we keep moving?

  • @RobertBRRN
    @RobertBRRN Місяць тому

    i saw this build on a stream, which was the only reason i bought diablo, hearing this getting now i feel kinda sad lol and im not even half way through to get the build or start/play it~ T^T

  • @chaddrusso8850
    @chaddrusso8850 Місяць тому

    I can confirm that you can kill lilith on torment 1 and get the spark I just did it this morning!

  • @beatrageGameSalad
    @beatrageGameSalad Місяць тому +1

    Man....I tried every single combination of aspects yesterday to boost my damage and you saved my ass! I knew it was that crap weapon's fault!
    As an old pro player thank you! 😎

  • @quotethenovanevermore9565
    @quotethenovanevermore9565 Місяць тому +1

    I didn't get a spark for killing tormented bosses... I've killed them all on t4 so I didn't think they were given that way

  • @UniversalSecretsPs3
    @UniversalSecretsPs3 Місяць тому

    After the nerf will you even need so much CDR if you can only evade 2~ times a second? Seems like you could get some more damage out of this build with less CDR.

  • @CaRLoSC2011
    @CaRLoSC2011 Місяць тому

    Finally got my second resplendent spark from lillith. Now im gonna get the shako

  • @yitzhakcohem17175
    @yitzhakcohem17175 Місяць тому +2

    Season 5 wizards op with builds with double graphics and never nerf until next season is that what they promised

  • @rhaegoti
    @rhaegoti Місяць тому

    I can verify that I got the spark from Lillith (Torment 1) and the spark from killing a Torment 4 boss (one spark for any boss, not one for each). I have not completed the season journey yet, I have two sparks currently.
    The reason I love this build is it allows me to never need to mount in this game. The mount system is just awful here, randomly getting stuck on things, and base speed is slower than someone who stacked movement speed items. But, my left thumb is killing me now so the Quill Volley build looks pretty attractive haha

  • @alibby22
    @alibby22 Місяць тому +1

    I've killed the tormented versions of all the bosses except lillith and have not gotten a resplendant spark from them. Must be only Lillith now.

  • @romanwalat122
    @romanwalat122 Місяць тому

    You just need a Shako and bunch of top tier GA items with perfect rolls xD that's it! :D
    BTW. this version of the build is called Pit pushing and that's nothing new, just requires a lot of gear just like Overpowered Quill.

  • @JodouTR
    @JodouTR Місяць тому +4

    Build nerfed? NP, just throw on a shako. . .lost me right there. I don't even consider builds that require RNG to get going because I would need a better build just to farm for a build that isn't even required by that point. Safe to say, nobody is going to really care about this build anymore unless they're being sweaty.

  • @sixtimesdead
    @sixtimesdead Місяць тому

    Hey Rax, could you share planner for your character to see what items/tempers/masterworks you run ? Cheers

  • @roz1281
    @roz1281 Місяць тому

    Love how it's becoming diablo 3 . I hope for a pet build in future where you can just walk and your pets kill everything like the WD

    • @godofm3tal1
      @godofm3tal1 Місяць тому +1

      You know, for people that just want the easy road, you can just play on "normal" and have the same brainless power fantasy with any build you throw together.

    • @roz1281
      @roz1281 Місяць тому

      @@godofm3tal1 I don't like it because it's easy, I like it because I have fun with a pet class who's pets are the main focus. I also liked in d3 how I could build up the pet WD and have the character auto follow my girlfriend while I'm not actively playing to keep her alive lol. I realize that doesn't work in D4 though.
      I alternate between these and self-built as well as meta try hard builds

  • @Dadbot
    @Dadbot Місяць тому +5

    So is this just the mythic version of the same build from maxroll?

  • @Arcelux
    @Arcelux Місяць тому

    Thanks for letting Blizzard know what to nerf extra this patch

  • @PhiloftheFuturama
    @PhiloftheFuturama 25 днів тому

    LMAO I didn't even think Cooldown Reduction was a thing this season. I've played up to Paragon level 226 and STILL haven't gotten anything with cooldown reduction.