Project Diva MegaMix Practice Lessons for Beginners.
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Wait, how do you skip around in songs? Or do you have to wait until the segment happens every time?
you press R3 to fast foward, and L3 to rewind. then press - to retry from where your checkpoint is. So you want to set your checkpoint to where I show you in this video and keep pressing - to retry it nonstop until you master it.
I think if you do a song in practice mode you can chose where you want to start from? Idk tho, I've only played the demo lol
@@rowan4301 While selecting a song you can choose where you want it to start from, from there you can jump back or forward in the song.
@@bthportugal is this in mega mix? I cant see any options
The Gay From Gallifrey where you start the song you can chose practice in the menu
hisokee: you have to use the other side of the controller
me: i pretend i do not see it ︶👄︶
Sadly it's true :/ but it's very useful so try to get used on that
I still struggle a bit with that because somehow my brain is still partially stuck in OG Project Diva mode >.
Yeah, in Project Mirai I always played on the right side with one hand. xD (Expect the times when you had to press multiple buttons.) But I'm getting used to it.
idk how new players can play with just one side cause my hand would get tired af lol
I can play with both sides of my pro controller but my dpad keeps messing me up. And I usually don’t use joycons (because of the stick drifting) because my hands are too big for them and it just doesn’t feel right like a pro controller does
As someone with Megamix being their first Project Diva game, alongside wanting to play it really good instead of just casually, I appreciate this video a lot! I'd definitely be interested in future lessons if you make any
i hope u enjoy the game! :)
Rising Dawn Enjoy! I started playing FT a few months ago after learning some of the note basics with PDX, I never even thought I’d get there but I am slowly getting better with hold, double and triple notes. It’s difficult, believe me, but practice makes perfect! Literally!
I've been playing this series for about 4 years and I'm not amazing, (I can at least CLEAR some extra extreme songs,) but if you practice a lot you'll get there.
we need to be friends together because i have just started playing this too and i want to see your progress with it >-
Someone Else aaaa I literally just got the game like 10 days ago and I’m so glad megamix isn’t the first for other people aswellll
mega 39's is my first PD game if you don't count mirai, and everytime I have to press multiple buttons at the same time I just get confused and PANIC
Same. I feel like I do not deserve the stats I've achieved. LOL
felt that ;w;
Lol I’ve perfected two songs on hard, meltdown and hello worker.
Oh hard mode only-
BITCH SAME
I’m the same way, started with DX and just recently got MegaMix. -Just got to the point where I passed my first extreme, being 1/6 out of the gravity-
Kinda irrelevant now that I now got 2 extreme perfects
My biggest problem is with triple inputs. I don't mean the "triplets" from this video, but when you're supposed to press 3 buttons at the same time. I can react to two and four fast enough, but my brain is really slow trying to figure out which 3 buttons I have to press before they pass. Trying to Perfect the easiest ex song and can't because of this (I'll probably just write it down/memorize them).
The triplets there are 4 types, 2 common and 2 uncommon. In my controller video I show the pattern how they always appear so you dont need to react at all
@@hisokeee That's interesting, I'll watch that vid again, thanks.
Hi I’m kinda late to responding to this soz!! Multiple buttons at once the way that this game shows it was a new concept to me and unlike the other games that I saw. It took me a second to get adjusted to it but I typically just look for which icon isn’t there and I work around that. It takes less time than just trying to process what’s there.
So let’s say you have three at once and its up left and down
You don’t see the right there so you know it’s the other three
For this to work you have to have all combinations of three memorized
So like up down right, up left and right, up left down, and down left right
It might not be as effective but this is how I managed to get it down
Basically how I figured them out was I just practiced and slowly got it. I found out that the most used are specificity two of them. And so I memorized those two three holds so I would remember them.
"for Beginners"
bro, I can't even press the double notes quick enough
Don't worry keep practicing ! I didn't even knew how to press a button without looking at my controller lol
Macros
for lesson one, i also recommend 2:10 of This is the Happiness and Peace of Mind Commitee
which difficulty tho
@@colorbar.s hard, probably. It feels a bit easy for a 7 star song, imo, but thats probably just cuz I've played it so many times
I've recently been trying to get into Project Diva due to my growing interest in Vocaloid and rhythm games as a whole. I watch a lot of your content and am delighted that you released this video as I plan on purchasing MegaMix whenever it goes on sale. Your gameplay inspires me to become a better player and learn. My only practice has been through the Japanese demo and Future Tone Prelude songs. Will do my best to get better, thank you for the video!
that's an awful lot of big words
waif i didn’t even know you could rewind and restart practises and just hold for a second and let go and get hold bonuses watching a video of someone else helps a ton!
tysm, as a (mostly)one-hand project mirai player of 5 years, learning to alternate hands is gonna be p tough
It worked very well.
It took me 3 days.
The way I did it was the next:
-Try to do the thing
-Keep trying until notice some kind of advance.
-Inmediately, do it again 2 or 3 times with that advance, and stop for 10 min+ (30 up to 1h is what I recommend, but you can stay longer)
-Retry now, and repeat the whole process. You may mastered the exercise in 1 day at least.
Extra pro tip: play 1 time at least doing the exercise you're mastering **before** sleep.
Pay attention and copy ALWAYS the way hisokee use the inputs.
I skipped ZL-R ones, due I personally hate macros, and I didn't care so much about the points more than perfect a song.
The alternate one took me more time than I imagined to master than the others.
I was used to play and perfect average extreme F, F2nd and X song, so I had a basis.
I would mention in the intermediate lesson with I started these videos, the alternating notes with one hand was pretty easy, and I think it would be considered as a begginer lesson more than intermediate.
(To be fair, I'm pretty used to, even I perfected songs like extremd F2nd Miku Miku ni shite ageru and extreme F2nd Magnet on the past, then maybe simply was easier for me by that reason)
5:02 Oh my god. That's so much easier than what I was doing lmao, I just mashed 🔺️ with my right and □ with my left every other. Thanks hiso!
... I've been a beginner for years now... I had no idea about using ZL and ZR with all 4 notes.
I've been using the claw grip for hold notes whenever I needed to hold and alternate hands. Which has been pretty difficult/uncomfortable to hold for long.
i went from f2nd to megamix and wOw the transition has been kinda hard ngl so i’m glad i found this
Practice summary (for anyone too lazy to skim through the video every time like me)
Song 1 - Remote Controller / リモコン { 2:23 } Hard
// For practicing basic consistency and getting used to macro holds
1. Normally
2. Alternating
3. Normal w/ holds
4. Alternating w/ holds
| Extra song: Intense Voice of Hatsune Miku / 初音ミクの劇症 { 1:44 } Hard
Song 2 - Luka Luka Night Fever / ルカルカナイトフィーバー { 0:02 } ExEx
// For standard triplets
Song 3 - ROKI / ロキ { 1:13 } Ex
// For standard triplets (bit more focused)
Song 4 - Common World Domination / ありふれた世界征服 { 2:44 } Ex
// For those annoying three note triplets
Song 5 - Gemini / ジェミニ { 0:35 } Ex
// Practicing 4 note holds w/ macros
Song 6 - AgeAge Again / アゲアゲアゲイン { 2:55 } Ex
// Alternating combo & single notes (also annoying)
| Extra song: Odds & Ends { 1:05 } ExEx |
this seems v helpful, i’ll be sure to try it out! the only miku game i’ve played before is mirai dx so i’m really excited to actually get to play megamix now. my main problems are with remembering to alternate joycons and hitting a+b or x+y, i think mostly because i panic trying to hit two buttons with one thumb lol (i normally do a+b buttons right handed and x+y buttons left handed so i just instinctively do that instead of trying to adapt better to the situation ig)
This is so helpfuuul I was having trouble with the mechanics of FT/megamix because I was too used to F/F2nd :0 thank youu! You should keep making these-
damn ive been playing future tone for like 3 years and i never knew about switching between macros for holds, really helpful!
As someone who is trying to get better at this game, but having trouble with triplets, I'm really happy to have specific points in songs to go to to work on them. Would definitely love to see more videos like this.
i'm great at Hard difficulty already but Extreme difficulty is on a whole other level but i did pass my first 8* on Extreme with adolescence recently and i still haven't got used to alternating between the D-Pad and face buttons yet but i'm getting there (that controller cam is a huge help, thank you, i always press the D-Pad, the button and the D-Pad, when alternating between them, too fast for now but i'll get there, as they say, practise makes perfect)
Really glad you made this video. Look forward watching the next video about overlapping notes. I'm struggling with them.
It's in the description
you are seriously my savior in this game 😭😭
Him: Marco the quads
Me: *the f is a Marco quad*
He has a controller setup tutorial for Future Tone that explains it and it works exactly the same in MegaMix!
Micah Jenkins bruh thank you so much I get it now
@@bacterialcontamination I don't blame you from not knowing the macros, I only recently got to know about them too. I really just hit all 4 face buttons at once on the joy cons and took it as an extra challenge.
i remember watching his tips for future tone, and that really helped me tbh, i dont use bumpers as sliders anymore too, i got used to the joysticks
How do you press the button so quickly when doing Intense singing? I’ve been playing since X but I still just can’t press the button quick enough. I’ve tried the alternating way but I much prefer non alternating. Is it just a thing that happens over time where u eventually become fast enough? Or is there some sort of trick?
Not a trick just gotta find most comfortable way to hold and build stamina. I know how you feel because I can't single tap in osu lol
my cat was enthralled by this video, so it has dual purpose - a tutorial, and a cat toy
I saw this and was super excited to get tips on mix mode but was bamboozled when I saw it was for arcade mode. It's still a very good video for beginners! I'm going to be ordering an adapter soon for my ps4 controller because the pro controller and joy cons are much tougher to hit and not as smooth as the ps4 controller.
I bought a whole PS4 controller just for Megamix lol (that and I didn't want to buy a Switch Pro controller). Check out 8bitdo's controller adapter. It doesn't have any noticeable lag and 8bitdo is well-known for its Switch stuff. There's also the mayflash adapter that's apparently better because it supports more controllers but I can't vouch for it.
@@cephi_sui ty think i might take a look at this adapter since i can't get used to switch controller at all. way to used to the good old ds4 controller. i will mainly play megamix for new songs and mix mode since i have ft and it looks so much better.
i don't dislike the toon shader tho.
Thank you hiso I will try common world domination triple notes
Oh God yes! You are the best! I do alternate hands on Holds but I will put all of this into practice right away 💖 thanks a lot
*watches intently*
*Left wrist w/ muscle + nerve damage* : imma go ow ow
this is really helpful as someone newer to the series, thank you!
Damn I was wondering how you were supposed to get some button combos without doing weird thumb exercises
LMAO ikr I thought my hands were just too small for this game
We need a lesson with overlapping notes xD
Triplet is the foundation to mastering overlapping notes. So once you master it overlapping is much easier. I will do that on the next tutorial
As someone that suffers from slow left thumb disorder, this is very helpful
Ah triplets, my old archenemie
I think the best song to practice triplets and 270 note is Kimi Ni on extreme. It has a lot of it near the ending
It is, but that song doesn't exist in megamix. Otherwise I always recommend that chart to future tone players to practice.
@@hisokeee Oh, Kimi Ni is not on Megamix?
Thanks hisokeee! This will really help me out!
i'm not a stranger to rhythm games and stuff but never once did alternating cross my mind when first booting this game, i was just using one side of the controller LMAO
Wow this really helped... Thanks!
hiya! i noticed in your previous videos when there are 4 different notes at the same time you dont really use the keypad on the switch? what do you use to hit those 4 notes?
thats when I hit the triggers in the back, since my triggers are always mapped to quad notes for holds. I also use them to hit multi 4x notes too.
Good video, but I wanna note that beginners probably won't have extreme mode unlocked. xD At least for me, I have problems with hard mode so far.
What I take this to mean is I need to get away from the 360 controller. The D-pad is horrendous and misreads the notes I'm inputting all the time.
this helped me alot :) i cleared all songs in hard mode now!!!!
Whoa hisokeee made a serious video? What’s next flying cars?
4:46 and that part is precisely why I haven’t passed AgeAge Ex yet. I always seem to drop out right there
Yes, please make more videos like this!
thank you for this video! ive been stuck unable to play extreme for atleast 2 years now lol, maybe this will help
Megamix feels so weird to me for difficulty, same thing with Future Tone but they're basically the same in terms of the regular arcade mode with the exception of some songs, but like, I can perfect a good amount of songs on extreme in stuff like F, F2nd, X, but in this it feels like most songs i can't even pass on extreme, let alone perfect. so its a weird stage where Hard is generally to easy to be really enjoyable, but extreme is too hard to have fun yet for me.
1:22 How do I do this for Nintendo Switch controllers?
have i managed to get several songs perfected on hard and extreme? yes.
is this the first time ive heard of practice mode? also yes.
this video is very helpful! do you have any tips for future tone? if there is another video on that that i have no seen i apologise for the trouble ^^'
Ty even tho I've been playing for like 6 months it was really helpful bc I can only do hard lol
THANK YOU BECAUSE TOKYO TEDDY BEAR
Thank you :)
Senpai, gracias por compartir sus secretos.
hisokee how did you get that ps4 controller at the bottom and can i get that on mega mix?
google gamepad viewer, you have to plug usb to pc
On project diva f, f2nd and x, i could almost perfect all the songs but on diva39, i could not even do two faced lovers on ex
But I have a question , I want to clear catch the way in ex and there a moment when it's yayay and I cant have good notes so I'm confused
see I've played all of the project diva games including the three psp games and pressing multiple buttons at once is something I still haven't gotten used to in this game. especially when it's three instead of 2 or 4? like ugh
I'm actually a brand new player so I'm trying to get used to patterns and the buttons because I didn't grow up with PlayStation. I would use the ABXY but my brain takes too long to be like what letter is that- shapes are easier to process in my brain XD
Hisokee: Use the joysticks for slides
Joy-con Drift: PREPARE FOR TROUBLE!
Nintendo Factories Shut Down: AND MAKE IT DOUBLE!
This actually happened to me and I had to send them in to get repaired, they're good now but I'm sticking to the ZL/ZR buttons for slides lmao
*TEAM SEGA*
If you use electronic repair spray down in the joycon stick it helps temporarily but immensely
*Laughs in pro controller*
Lois The Gacha Freak el
I struggle severely when it has me press several buttons at the same time. I tend to panic in the moment and forget that the other side of my switch exists.
unrelated but i love your pfp!
“play on both sides when doing fast clicky”
my left hand which is 50 times slower then my right:
“play on ex/exex”
me, who only beat one song on hard:
Yeah, there's only a few sons I beat in heard so far. xD I wanted to start with easy and normal mode. But we'll get there.^^
exactly, I feel like this is kinda his expert diva player tunnel vision. you can't make a tutorial for BEGINNERS and add ex/exex
colorbar.s exactly how do you expect a BEGINNER to play the game on exex you cannot
(also off topic but i love your name and pfp)
@@whiteegretorchids8234 I mean, you don't have to play the entire song. You only have to practice certain patterns and can ignore the other notes. But it's still very hard for beginners. Especially since you have to clear songs in "hard" in order to unlock exex! And maybe not all complete beginners can do that.
Sailor Cat yea, actual beginners wont be able to beat songs on hard to do these practices. beginners can maybe clear normal mode on some songs, thats about it. really this is intermediate practice except for the sections actually accessible to beginners
There’s a comment in this comment section that says “wanna be friends?” I’m pretty sure it’s a hack thing so don’t reply to it
Other than that it would be great to have more vids like this one
I reported it for spam since there's no better alternative until youtube does something about it.
slodkalili yeah I will too, they’re really annoying and I hope they get dealt with soon
Yeah i got that in one of my project diva vids and i reported it
I legit scrolled through all the comments to see this xdd
WaNnA bE fRiEnDs
megamix was my first project diva game (I had an interest in the series but I only owned nintendo consoles so rip) so this is very helpful, thank you!
Literally same
Same, I used to only play the Mirai series for 3ds. I've heard that Diva is way harder than Mirai so I'm kinda scared that I won't enjoy the game or get frustrated at the difficulty
@@gray2424 same here, I played mirai for a couple years and while project diva is much harder, I've had a lot of fun with it after getting used to it
@@gray2424 as one who went from mirai to diva, its definently a lot harder to read, but you get used to it. I'm still insanely better at spamming than hitting the multi notes but im not as bad as when i first started. Also handheld mode is easier imo cuz input lag and ur eyes arent spazzing and trying to read notes
@@deadacc7140 As someone who is into the Extreme charts now, I can guarantee you there's NO perceivable input lag on the wireless mode of the joy cons or any wireless controller from the Xbox 360 and upwards. Anything related to that is either you losing connection from range (can happen even if you think you are close enough), but then you really do miss presses entirely not just out of time, or the most likely culprit: your TV acting up.
Like Hisokeee said here, setting the TV to game mode or monitor mode is necessary. There's also a lag calibration function in-game, I never needed to use that thankfully.
TV mode being harder I won't say against tho as that's personal and dependent on your TV size and view distance. For me tho, the Switch in standard size (non-lite) is way too massive to play Diva on it easily, the grip on the controller can be changed easier in my case if it's docked.
much appreciated hiso-senpai
I’ve been playing f and f2nd for years and getting started on mega mix feels like I’ve reverted back to when I could only just clear extreme songs, thank you for the tips and tricks on what to practice first hiso!
The charts from this game comes from the arcade where they pump up the difficulty to get players to spend more money. So compared to the console diva games its normal to feel like you are suddenly worse than you remember
Same! When I first played the extreme charts on mega39 I was flabbergasted by how awful I did. Fortunately I got better and now aiming to perfect most ex songs and possibly exex’s as well
@@hisokeee DAMN they rly do that??
@@rugrat222 Seems like a very smart decision on Sega's part.
same here. my first games were f/f2nd 5 years ago. i can handle extreme songs easily on there and it took me only a week to get into extreme. as a nintendo main and megamix being my first arcade based port of pd, this shit is like torture. i can only stand hard lvls. i’m trying to practice but so far, mix mode is the thing distracting me away from arcade mode. it’s too good.
“for beginners” and then “practice on the ex versions of songs” yet i cant even perfect a song on E A S Y yet how am i supposed to unlock extreme bro
Me who always get 50 to 70% on easy,normal,and hard : 👁️👄👁️
Then there's the secret technique that I call "the hiso's technique": By playing a sped up version of a song and getting used/consistent at it will make the regular version way easier. This is more helpful on harder songs/petterns (especially on f2nd) and overtime you really feel the difference while playing songs with higher bpm. As for mega39s, perhaps the best way could be by speeding up replays of yt perfects but then you are not sure if you are doing it correctly. Speaking of bpm (idk if hiso is planning a video about speed and/or spam), there are imo 5 main stages of spam learning:
3:23 Heck, until now I've done these by fat thumbing. Never thought of doing it this way.
omg ty, megamix is my first pd game so this is gonna save my ass
i’ve played extend for the past two years and thought i was at least good at pd but playing mega mix makes me feel like i’m just starting in the series with the multi button presses and the slides 😭 but this really did help thank youu
Yeah these charts are designed to get more money at arcades from players, so the difficulty spike is a surprise to console diva players
Ok serious question is it ok if your arm hurts after single tapping singing passion cause like ow
The pain means you are breaking down the muscle so when they heal its gonna be stronger 😎
Hisokee? Wow. now that's a name I recognise. I think I used to play a lot of your custom songs on project diva/Vita.
I'm working on a little beginner guide on the Project Diva subreddit and this is definitely getting linked. Keep up the good work Hiso!
"so theres tripple presses"
Me who doesnt understand the 2 button hold press icons when they show up: 👁️👄👁️
"A-.. age age age again, to-"
Any tips on the 360's near the end of Intensive Voice Ex? I've been playing arcade charts on PPD for years with just the keyboard but now Megamix feels like a wakeup call, but somehow I was able to perfect Luka Luka Night Fever exex with the joycons
You need good precision with 360 both ways, it's tough even I didn't get it right away when I first got ft. I'll probably try to demonstrate in future tutorials
@@hisokeee Thanks dude, nice video btw
I needed this, I can’t get perfects at all
perfects? I'm still tryna pass
I found another good spot for practicing alternative pressing. Ghost Rule on hard at 2:12 really helped and I found it easier than remote controller or singing passion. You can put it earlier than 2:12 if you don’t want it to start suddenly.
don't you have to pay for dlc for ghost rule or is that only for future tone
coming from taiko
most of the tips I just learned on my own first time playing it I just get really overwhelmed by multis
I’ve been playing project Diva for years and this was helpful even for me. I struggle with triplets of 3 different notes so having a specific part of a song to practice will be very helpful! Thank you Hiso
I just wish I could slow down the tracks in practice mode. My brain has a such a hard time comprehending things. I can get it eventually but I'd get it so much faster if I could slow it down.
hisokee: use other side of controller
Me: I don’t use playstation I use Nintendo so the point is do I have to do with my Nintendo controller too?
"Make sure to record your hands"
Me, who plays on a Nintendo Switch lite:
This is really helpful cause I've been struggling with the double to single buttons like in Ageage again and also the triple button tapping in Common world domination
Hopefully someone sees this; Megamix is my first Project Diva game, and I've played for ~63 hours with the ABYX on screen. Would it be worth trying to practice with the triangle/circle buttons? I don't have any consoles I could play other Project Diva games on, but I understand that if I do, the buttons will likely be unfamiliar. Am I okay?
Very helpful tips, but I still don't understand the hand motion thingy for 270 triplets. I can master everything else yet I don't get the 270 triplets.
Also, do macro holds work in future tone on PS5? ;;
I find using the arrow melody icon instead of just the controllers XYAB helps a lot more
It makes more sense in my pea sized brain lmao
My non-dominant hand (left) literally can't respond fast enough when doing the disappearance song i'm going to cry 😭
ugh. I cleared all the songs on hard (though jitterbug and gaikotsu gakudan to riria were a pain in the ass) but I can't seem to make the jump to extreme in most songs. I simply can not process what it wants me to press quickly enough. By the time I realize what I'm supposed to press, I've already missed the note.
Playing Remote Controller on hard with one hand? Easy.
Playing it with two hands...f***, this is hard. I can not do this....
I'm gonna try to use some of these in future tone (though I'm not really a beginner anymore) I wanna get more than just excellent on hard
The one time I'm glad I devoted months into taiko. Triples in this game just got so much easier 😭
when i saw luka luka night fever i felt like crying because i just got excellent on hard recently-
i feel like the only reason I can play triplets well is due to being an orchestra student who constantly played songs with triplets
it's literally the only thing I've never had trouble with in PD
I can't do doublea and tripples very well no matter how I try it doesn't work. My left hand doesn't want to play lol
I can actually play the songs despite not hearing them ever, And I hop right in on hard mode until I can play it lmao
I cant even figure out how to play this game on practice mode 😭 and google dont even help
Now I’m confused cause my controls are A,B,Y, and X