BENDING WOOD with STEAM to create an LED PENDANT LIGHT

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  • Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
  • This episode shows how to make a DIY wooden LED chandelier or pendant lamp using Rockler’s steam bending kit. This LED chandelier / hanging pendant light is part of the Rockler Bent Wood Challenge It took many attempts to steam bend the wood for the LED pendant - I tried maple and oak, but in the end the LED chandelier turned out pretty cool. I’m just using LED strips with an acrylic diffuser to diffuse the light from the LEDs. This LED chandelier or pendant light is a challenging but rewarding DIY woodworking project, which anyone can make with a bit of can-do-it-ness.
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  • @rafaelfloresta592
    @rafaelfloresta592 4 роки тому +172

    Next time just go to Home depot and get some 2x4. They already come bented for you.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +13

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @robinsonkaspar3395
      @robinsonkaspar3395 4 роки тому +5

      It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!

    • @RussellTelker
      @RussellTelker 4 роки тому +6

      No joke! I watched a pallet of 2x4s grow about 8" vertically when they unbanded it at the local Menards!

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣

    • @arrozconmgtow5026
      @arrozconmgtow5026 4 роки тому +1

      I really hate that there's a reason for all that unevenness in their final product at the local big box. Anyone know if independent lumber dealers have a better final product or is this the way it is with white and yellow pine (along with whatever they provide out west which I've heard is a different breed of soft wood)?

  • @fungalcoffee
    @fungalcoffee 4 роки тому +95

    That bathtub is nicer than my whole house, and you're using it to soak wood in

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +2

      I thought there was a bit of irony in the bathtub 😁

    • @timault8209
      @timault8209 4 роки тому +4

      a bit of cast irony from the looks of it.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      lol

  • @JTWoodworks
    @JTWoodworks 4 роки тому

    It's nice that you were able to save the oak pieces. These turned out look great and thanks for sharing all the tips!

  • @WickedMakers
    @WickedMakers 4 роки тому

    Nice work, man! We built an almost identical steam box and used a clothing steamer. Worked well for small pieces but the output was too small for anything larger than a couple feet. Solid design as always.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! That is a cool hack for smaller bent wood projects... And good to know for bigger ones like this that the Rockler kit is worth it 😃

  • @-djs
    @-djs 4 роки тому +1

    WOW, another home run, fantastic project, thank you for leaving in all your learning curves, pardon the pun, looked like a lot of work this one but I must say it looks amazing.
    I'm not an electrician but I have had 4 strips 150cm long of 5050 LED's (60 per metre) side by side double taped to a length of wood, no heat dissipation at all, they've been running 24/7 for over 3 years without any problems, heat marks, nothing,
    Anyway thank you so much as always for sharing your work,
    Take it easy from accross the pond 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks brother! I've never had any problems either... I just get a bit more nervous when doing a permanent install.

    • @-djs
      @-djs 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial
      I know what you mean, luckily the ones I mentioned are above my lounge TV and they and their power are easily accessible,

  • @Itslvle
    @Itslvle 4 роки тому +9

    Just using aluminium won't really take away the heat since the aluminium is in the same blocked up space as the leds are. That is, if you're planning on leaving the light on for more than 15 minutes at a time so that the aluminium will reach the same temp as everything else. Once it's up to heat, it'll essentially be the same as not having it. Basically no matter what you put inside a box won't matter how the outside of the box conducts away the heat. Can't escape physics.
    So like some others suggested, before you do any problem solving, find out if you even have a problem if the first place. See how hot the thing will get. Compare it to other lamps you have. If you've created a stylish, high-end led-breaking-toaster-oven (you're not going to be setting up a fire, the leds will just break because of the heat), open up the backside of the lamp (drilling holes or preferably route a channel) so the heat can get out. No need to worry about airflow since the acrylic will not be an airtight seal and even if it were, a groove would still allow airflow (efficacy can be debated but it's still a very significant amount unless we're talking widely spaced pinholes) and even if it didn't, enough heat can radiate out to cool any normal lamp. You'll probably want to prevent light from leaking out the back so here some aluminium will let the heat conduct more easily, but obviously just having a lot less wood in the way will help out as well.
    I seriously doubt you'd need active cooling (a fan) unless you're looking for film industry level light power. It's a lamp for a home. Even large open buildings don't need that despite having much more power-hungry lighting. And there are leds we're talking about, most of the energy comes out as light as opposed to classic light bulbs where over 95% of the energy used just comes out as heat.
    Now if all this is a bit of a long-winded ramble, allow me to summarize: It's a lamp for a normal house. It's a led-lamp (efficient). Many led-lamps are completely closed of with light diffusers. Regular solutions are enough for regular applications.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      I like the summary 😃 and all the other info is helpful too 😉

  • @GreyElement
    @GreyElement 4 роки тому

    Hey Mike, has become a great video again, I like the design of the lamp very well! Best regards Frank

  • @BruceAUlrich
    @BruceAUlrich 4 роки тому

    Man, you really went through a bunch of different things to make it work. I totally understand the frustration. Way to stick with it! The light turned out cool in the end!

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the kind words Bruce!

  • @raulrincon3
    @raulrincon3 3 роки тому

    Dude.... they look awesome! thanks for sharing...

  • @BevelishCreations
    @BevelishCreations 4 роки тому

    Awesome video! Lots of great information! Thanks Mike

  • @RhysDaKingVR
    @RhysDaKingVR 4 роки тому

    always happy when you upload grate project mate

  • @celeste4humanity891
    @celeste4humanity891 4 роки тому +5

    I’ve been wanting to try steam bending, thanks for doing this!!

  • @DevinTrierMaker
    @DevinTrierMaker 4 роки тому

    Really nice results! And good reflex on that kickback 🤭

  • @kurt2rsenjazz
    @kurt2rsenjazz 4 роки тому +73

    As Bill Burr said: "Losing your shit is part of the process" 8-)

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +5

      🤣🤣 I concur!

    • @TheOneWhoMightBe
      @TheOneWhoMightBe 4 роки тому +5

      I had a drawer - a simple rectangular drawer - decide to engage in a fight to the death with me this afternoon. The dry fit was fine but the moment I applied glue it wasn't having any of it.
      It ended up halfway across the yard and its replacement went together swimmingly.

  • @HenryTriplette
    @HenryTriplette 4 роки тому +1

    That's an awesome idea and you gave me tons of ideas for a new project.
    Btw, for those who are about to replicate your bending jig I suggest looking for longboard wheels, they are usually larger, flat and more durable than skateboard wheels, who tend to be smaller.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks Henry! And good tip...I think the ones I used were longboard wheels, but I didn't make that connection until you pointed it out 👍👍

    • @georgedegooijer7950
      @georgedegooijer7950 4 роки тому

      Steambending is about compression, not about stretching. Your cracks seem to be a result of stretching.

  • @politicalpartyagnostic268
    @politicalpartyagnostic268 4 роки тому +1

    Inspiring!!!🌼🌿🌺🌱🌸🍃💫👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤗
    *THANK YOU!!!*

  • @kustikum
    @kustikum 4 роки тому +10

    You could use hanging steel cables as wires, one cable is + and second is - .
    Just in case is possible to cover steel cables with some clear

    • @kustikum
      @kustikum 4 роки тому

      .... with some clear rubber or silicone tube

  • @notwaitingtolive
    @notwaitingtolive 3 роки тому

    Inspiring work. Thanks for putting so much time into this.

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre 4 роки тому

    Really cool Mike! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

  • @UrbanShopWorks
    @UrbanShopWorks 4 роки тому +4

    You are making me want to build a chandelier!

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Go for it! Would love to see you put your spin on it!

  • @MikeTheMaker1
    @MikeTheMaker1 4 роки тому

    Cool use of the steam bending.

  • @LadyLuvGemStones
    @LadyLuvGemStones 4 роки тому

    💖💖💖💖💖 GORGEOUS 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @EthanCarterDesigns
    @EthanCarterDesigns 4 роки тому

    Such a cool design, Mike! So many learnings in this one, including the benefits of powering the LEDs from the middle...makes so much sense! Also nice to know I'm not the only one that loses their sh!t in the shop sometimes haha.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Ethan! (And sorry for the slow response, was having a bit too much fun at makesgiving 😁)

    • @EthanCarterDesigns
      @EthanCarterDesigns 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial No problem haha - you're still the best/most consistent responder out there! It looked like it - so many great minds and creators all in one place...so awesome!

  • @MindToMade
    @MindToMade 4 роки тому

    Steam bending opens up a lot of opportunities. I might try to combine it with woodturning 😎

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      That combo would be really cool 👍👍

  • @tswrench
    @tswrench 4 роки тому +1

    Nice work, Mike! I've never seen you get so steamed over a cracked piece of wood.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks! So "steamed"... Good one! 🤣🤣😁

  • @eyeDavid
    @eyeDavid 4 роки тому +1

    Love seeing the mess ups

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +2

      I always try to include the mistakes so that others can learn from them 😀

  • @wandakowalski7063
    @wandakowalski7063 2 роки тому

    Just found your channel and really enjoyed watching you going through the bending process in an honest way … stuff happens! I was wondering if there is a transformer somewhere that would have to be in the ceiling somewhere?

  • @BauBoomBang
    @BauBoomBang 4 роки тому

    Great Job!!

  • @ch8gb16
    @ch8gb16 4 роки тому

    I like it!!!! And the chandelier also!!!!!

  • @Poopdar
    @Poopdar 4 роки тому +9

    As a recurve bow builder, I felt all of those steam bending pains in my bones.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      It was definitely a learning process!

  • @gstarmj
    @gstarmj 3 роки тому

    very creative design!

  • @createforpeople
    @createforpeople 4 роки тому

    Amazing 😍

  • @fishstonestudio
    @fishstonestudio 4 роки тому +3

    Great stuff...I've always wanted to try bending wood....just might have to give it a go...

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks Tom! It definitely takes practice, but is a lot of fun.

  • @Nervous66
    @Nervous66 4 роки тому

    Real nice design Bro. Greetings from Poland.

  • @PassportCalifornia
    @PassportCalifornia 4 роки тому +1

    So cool!

  • @TheFlyingKiwiNZ
    @TheFlyingKiwiNZ 4 роки тому +2

    Depending on how many watts each LED uses, the spacing of the LEDs, and how bright you run them, they shouldn't get too hot to worry too much, but the aluminium tape is a good idea to dissipate the heat into the wood. Making sure it is stuck well should help, which you did. Nice project mate, I'd like to do something similar, cheers!

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks much! 🍻

    • @TushhsuT
      @TushhsuT 4 роки тому +1

      To dissipate a heat into the wood? bad idea... One side of wood can burn at 1000degC, the second side you can still touch with your hand!
      Aluminium tape? Also bad idea. It just creates here an additional heat resistance.
      Wood from one side and no air flow at all because of scatterer - this is really bad idea... I like wood style, but really - it does not fit for LED projects as it shown here. as a night or evening "warm" lamp, down-powered, - probably fine. But once you take it for correct room illumination with 20-40-100Watts - forget it - you need cooling.
      Especially for the LED stripe, which is so dense filled with LEDs...
      Good idea would be to check the temperature. if it goes above 60 degC, and I bet that with 12V in this case it will - scatterer should be redone and backside should be drilled to let air flow. Or one could mount LED stripe on appropriate alu stripe (1mm thick or similar) and have at least part of it, if not all, be open to the air. From the backside of course to not ruin a design.
      I would even add a hidden 12V blowing fan, downvoltaged to 9-10V from the side, purging the air along the stripe.
      In case I would do it for myself, not for someone who wants to have a nice design and don't care how long it lasts.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the advice.... It's very easy to drill holes in the back for passive cooling... No one will ever see them. I'll probably do that and then test to see how hot it gets

    • @TushhsuT
      @TushhsuT 4 роки тому +1

      @@modustrial hi. Just holes on upper side will not help a lot. You need to create an air flow. Holes above should serve as warm air outlets and other small openings from sides or below will be cold air inlets. The air flow will be created itself because of temperature difference.
      But I would say it is tricky to make it in a current design...
      First try to measure temperature. I would be glad to know I'm wrong and it is kept below 60degC after 10-20 minutes.
      Although, I have several LED DIY lamps ( far not so nice as yours) and have experienced quite high warming of LEDs . Especially in closed volumes.

  • @Bobacheck94
    @Bobacheck94 4 роки тому +3

    I like It! Can I suggest you to use, if you can, the same cord used to hang up the chandelier for a cleaner design? You can use one cord for positive and the other for negative.
    OBVIOUSLY WITH ONLY VERY LOW VOLTAGE LEDS STRIP.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      I looked into this, but there really are no good solutions out there... The only ones I found were very high end.... The type of companies that tell you to "email for a quote".

    • @alexmozmtl
      @alexmozmtl 4 роки тому +3

      You can just use those compressible wire attachments (with a plastic sleeve) to attach wires to the hanging cables. Two wires inside of the lights to solder to the strip and two more inside of the hanging top plate to attach to a transformer.
      Very similar idea to the track lights used in stores and offices.

  • @FL0RI4NN
    @FL0RI4NN 4 роки тому +15

    Please use the cables that you hang the lamp from for power, therby eliminating the need to have that white cable go down :D

    • @iZebraHD
      @iZebraHD 3 роки тому

      Is that safe?

    • @MrBrndin
      @MrBrndin 3 роки тому

      @@iZebraHD Not for AC, but DC should be OK and you can get wire thats coated

  • @St34mPunkPrivateer
    @St34mPunkPrivateer 4 роки тому

    looking forward to confirmation from electrician. I had my uncle (who is a one) check out my diy light, he said that I needed to swap out wires and organize them better. I wasn't working with LEDs but regular socket bulbs. Im updating my build with a 18-3 braided wire pack inside the fixture to connect everything rather than have the 3 wires running seperatly. Idk the code on ground wire for fixtures , I know alot of desklamps dont have em. I wonder how the LEDs will be, as I noticed you dont have a ground wire.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Yea LED strip themselves don't need a ground wire, but there will be a ground wire running to the ac/dc power supply for them.

  • @TIODIY
    @TIODIY 4 роки тому

    Cool toys, I wish that all stuffs in my workshop one day later so I can make something better to show in my channel..😁

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 4 роки тому

    Beautiful job, dude! 😃
    A tip: next time try RGB LEDs with a controller! You can wire everything like that (but with 3 or 4 wires I think) and use only one receiver for the remote controller. 😃

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I did something similar with individual addressable LEDs. I couldn't find white shielded 3-pin wires so I opted for the basic LEDs in this one, but it would definitely be cool with RGB 👍👍

  • @hectorgerco2963
    @hectorgerco2963 4 роки тому

    Hi , I'm Hector from Argentina , love your work and explanation , I can't find here that stemear. Didn't find it in Amazon too. If you put into water 10 hrs the piece of wood can you bend it ??
    Any special wood to use??
    Thank you

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Hi, just soaking in water isn't enough, it's actual the heat that makes the wood bendy. I think Rockler sells in South america. You can order directly from their website.

  • @AlisherIbraimov
    @AlisherIbraimov 4 роки тому

    Awesome!

  • @user-rw5gh6if1w
    @user-rw5gh6if1w 4 роки тому

    Огонь!!

  • @bentebrunsvelt319
    @bentebrunsvelt319 4 роки тому

    Beautyfull work ♥️♥️👍👍

  • @imsoviolent
    @imsoviolent 4 роки тому

    Awesome project! The end result looks great and the process was super informative. Could you include a link to the hardware you used to hang the lights? Those quick release things would come in handy.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks Andy! I'll update with links soon, or if you check my older Rings of Saturn pendant light video, there is a link to the same ones I used in that video description.

    • @imsoviolent
      @imsoviolent 4 роки тому

      Oh, awesome. I will just look back to that video. Thank you so much!! And thank you for constantly innovating and showing us awesome projects. Love it!!

  • @BenTen-jt4wt
    @BenTen-jt4wt 4 роки тому

    Would look great over a pool table!

  • @timothycastillo9263
    @timothycastillo9263 4 роки тому

    Thoughts on a white Cement farm sink? Is there a cement strong enough to withstand everyday sink use?

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      This would look great. GFRC is used all the time for sinks, so it's a great choice.

  • @createdesign
    @createdesign 4 роки тому

    Hi Mike you conjured a very big smile on my face. I almost could't believe it thank you🙏💪
    great video and great design, as always👏

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks brother! Not quite the same level as your bench, but I'm learning slowly....

    • @createdesign
      @createdesign 4 роки тому

      @@modustrialno way!!! ash wood is much easier to bend as the most woods.... I really like how you show your mistakes .. thanks Brother 💪

  • @Maniwasaki
    @Maniwasaki 4 роки тому +8

    When I have to make sharp bends, I don't use steam bending. Rather for me it works better (faster) to use a router and layering many smaller pieces

  • @NicoleHerrickDIY
    @NicoleHerrickDIY 4 роки тому

    Sleek and beautiful

  • @barsgursoy5976
    @barsgursoy5976 4 роки тому +2

    How about using many skateboard wheels bolted in pattern so that your bend would be standardized?

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      That might work....good thought!

  • @ApexGuardian
    @ApexGuardian 4 роки тому

    I just got a table saw. I'd say kickback is my biggest concern. is there a way to completely avoid it?

    • @ferb7452
      @ferb7452 3 роки тому

      No
      But after 30 something years of using a table saw I have only 1 kickback
      Just take your time & don’t rush
      Always cut thin stock so it can clear the blade on it’s own & not get jammed between the blade & the fence

  • @ItsJustGilly
    @ItsJustGilly 4 роки тому +1

    3:53 happened to me as well.. I was holding a piece of wood by hand and it just flew away. Very scary experience

  • @DrLoveQc
    @DrLoveQc 4 роки тому

    great project as always. do the led strip give good lights? it seems pretty dim at the end of the video. maybe its just the ambient light that is very high.. if not there is some double row led strips that could maybe help. without thermal heatsink I never saw very powerfull led strip. the one We use at work for datacenter are so powerfull they gave us 3x the lux compare to old 8ft neon. But they are in aluminum casing ..
    made by philips I think

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      The LEDs I used for this are 120 LEDs/m and very bright....I'll update the video shortly with a link to them (or check the lights I used in my concrete epoxy LED desk lamp, there is a link to the same ones in that description).

  • @clydeulmer4484
    @clydeulmer4484 4 роки тому

    I first saw the poly bag steam bending technique on the Tips form a Shipwright channel. I've abandoned my steam box as a result. You can do far more than bending a board -- I've used the technique to *flatten* boards and to form spirals around a PVC pipe slid over a metal rod.
    Wood fails upon bending because the inner surface is in compression and the outer surface is in tension. If you use metal strapping on the outer surface and pull on the strapping, the entire piece of wood is then in compression. Lee Valley/Veritas makes some really nice stainless steel straps, but with a poly bag protecting the surface, you can roll your own. Clyde

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the tips! I saw the technique with bags on shipwright as well.... Good stuff!

  • @BSANDY
    @BSANDY 4 роки тому

    did you just use primer and the cpvc glue on pvc?

  • @BrenoLuna
    @BrenoLuna 4 роки тому

    Great form factor! Can one swing from it, though? Asking for a friend.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! No swinging from those suspension kits, lol... They are rated for 11 lbs per pair 🤣

  • @hansoncrack
    @hansoncrack 3 роки тому

    fyi when using pvc primer it is meant to be applied and glued while still wet. I have done the same thing you did about 9000x times before a plumber said "it says not to do that on the can" which it does. So no more priming up 30 pieces at a time and the job got messier but if you want maximum chemical bond, wet primer, wet glue and slam it together, rotate. Thanks for all your videos and its good stuff!

  • @umlooad
    @umlooad 4 роки тому

    Strait grain is the one side and a metal or plastic band shall help to prevent cracking.

  • @ScamstinCrew
    @ScamstinCrew 4 роки тому +1

    As a pro-tip/upgrade tip. File/Grind/Remove All But the Last 2 or 3 threads on the Pipe Cap So you Dont have to turn it 10 times to open and close the PVC steam chamber

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Great tip! I'll definitely do that before it's next use 👍👍

  • @1ayvee
    @1ayvee 3 роки тому

    Hi. Did you use glue to stick the acrylic sheet?

  • @fatih2313
    @fatih2313 4 роки тому +1

    This might be a weird idea but how about instead of steam-bending those pieces, just cut them out of a thick, wood plate? No messy bending work needed, because you just wanna make pieces that have a very small width. You could just draw the arc of the bent pieces(from side view) on a wood piece and cut them out. If the thickness of that wood plate is the same as the width of your piece, ta-da you have your piece in minutes!
    Only difference is that the pattern of the wood could tell if its bent or cut-out. Other than that i think for this project you didnt need necessarily have to bend it. Quite fine work thought, good job as always Mike!

  • @BrainBomb
    @BrainBomb 4 роки тому +4

    That rage though - shows you're still human outside of youtube. Lol

  • @dannore8077
    @dannore8077 4 роки тому

    Is it possible to do this with soft wood like pine, if I'm not interested in using expensive hardwood

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      It's actually much more difficult to bend softwoods

  • @OMGitzEDD
    @OMGitzEDD 4 роки тому

    love the idea not great with wood work but great with electronics and electrical .. seeing as its lv (low voltage) 12v i would have used the steel cable suspending the lights as my wires to power it one side positive the other negative that way there is no other cable on show just a personal touch i would make

  • @potatopotatoeOG
    @potatopotatoeOG 4 роки тому

    Awesome chandelier. How long have you been doing woodworking?

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I've been into making all kinds of things for about 3 years now.

    • @potatopotatoeOG
      @potatopotatoeOG 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial that sounds good as your work is really spectacular. I hope you keep coming up with and sharing these cool ideas.
      💫
      I'm just getting started, with my first project being a patio at home.. wish me luck 🤞🏻

  • @BadYossa
    @BadYossa 4 роки тому

    Wow. That's a wallpaper stripper steam doohickey. They retail for around £20 here, including hoses etc. How can a Rockler sticker be worth an additional £60. Crazy.
    Anyhoo, really love your channel and content.

  • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
    @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 4 роки тому +2

    10:35 I would class Hiding Mistakes as the 2nd most important Woodworking Skill...
    The MOST important Skill in Woodworking (or working with any material for that matter) is being able to use Power Tools without hurting/killing yourself (or anyone else)...

  • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
    @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 4 роки тому

    It would be interesting if you made another of these chandeliers replacing the wood with Epoxy Resin (perhaps embedding an Aluminum strip in the mold to attach the LED's to as a Heat Sink)?
    Exactly as you did with this Project but replace all the wood with Opaque Resin, leaving the Translucent White "Window" for the LED's...

  • @BrainBomb
    @BrainBomb 4 роки тому

    Dude I stopped getting your notifications for uploads! Very upsetting 😡 lol, but this is pretty neat, you don't see much of this style lately. I've been trying to figure out how to get some more light into my room myself. Won't be doing a ceiling fixture of anything but I will be doing a nice wall piece! With Hue's LEDs.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      That's so weird! You'll have to send me some pics of your fixture when it's done 👍👍

  • @derisly
    @derisly 4 роки тому

    What is the difuser you use please :-)

  • @RealitaetsverlustTV
    @RealitaetsverlustTV 4 роки тому +2

    It's not the LEDs voltage drop, which makes the LEDs dimmer, the further you get from the power input, because they are parallel. It's the resistance of these superthin copper traces, carrying all that power. Heat dissipation is a good thought. BUT: As you are hanging each strip from two steel wires, why not use them to supply power? Yes these add some resistance, but you can measure the voltage arriving at the strips and turn up the PSU accordingly. You could also use copper wire to hang them. I think this would create an even cleaner look. Nice project though.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks! I definitely thought about it, but would prefer to find a ready made hanging kit that would be up to UL code, since this will be installed in my home (which I will likely sell soon). But yes, using hanging wires for power is a great idea and ill likely try it at some point in the future.

  • @ashiktirur9490
    @ashiktirur9490 2 роки тому

    I didn’t see the drivers, did u install ac strip lights ?

  • @espjason
    @espjason 4 роки тому +28

    So Rockler are trying to sell wallpaper steamers to woodworkers. I suppose they add 5000% to make it feel special. I love your videos. But shame on you rockler

    • @nanuq83
      @nanuq83 4 роки тому +1

      I didn't even know wallpaper steamers existed (learn something new daily!) but if it can be used for the job, isn't it smart to show other uses for the product that some might not have thought of? The PVC pipe encasement didn't work but the steamer worked w/ the plastic bags. Although it did seem a good long soak worked best and that's usually what I see ppl do instead.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Just to clarify, the PVC pipe will actually work well if you aren't pushing the limits of steam bending like I was. With green wood and/or thinner pieces, the PVC works well. The bag is probably the easiest method tho, altho it does make it difficult if you want to bend multiple pieces in the exact same way (which I didn't need to for this project). The main takeaway, I think, is that there are a number of ways to steam bend wood, and it's important to pick the technique most suitable for the particular project 😀

    • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan
      @HappilyHomicidalHooligan 4 роки тому +1

      @@modustrial The PVC may have worked better if you had set it up on the bench directly beside the bending form, minimizing the time between between being removed from the steam and bent in the form...

    • @buddtwin2
      @buddtwin2 4 роки тому +1

      It’s funny to me people get made at company’s for selling things for working another way. That’s just good business that gives people jobs. I’m tired of seeing all these dumbass people get mad at company’s for stupied reasons.

    • @BadYossa
      @BadYossa 4 роки тому +1

      @@buddtwin2 it's probably more do with that the steamer retails for £20 here and not £80. Just usual ripping off customers with cheap Chinese tat at exaggerated prices. No offence intended

  • @thorindwarf
    @thorindwarf 4 роки тому

    Hey, man, it looks great!
    But I have a question: where did U hide a LED driver?

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      It is up in the mounting plate

    • @thorindwarf
      @thorindwarf 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial thx, that's how I thought.

  • @nanuq83
    @nanuq83 4 роки тому

    Very cool! I think, no matter our age, we all throw a tantrum at some point. They just become less frequent and more 'localized' as we age. I throw an internal (sometimes external) fit when my bed sheets pretend to be a boa constrictor and wrap themselves around my legs, preventing me from moving. lol I have very few issues but that's one that'll instantly cause me to turn 5. haha

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Ha! We all have our things! I think a lot of ppl cut those parts out of their videos 🤣 but I figure we all do it, why not share....

    • @nanuq83
      @nanuq83 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial Touchè!

  • @okidokimate1097
    @okidokimate1097 4 роки тому +2

    Bend the steepest curve first!

  • @danieldoyle7337
    @danieldoyle7337 Рік тому

    Having the humility to admit you edited out your immature temper tantrum has earned you my respect lol

  • @MondoRockable
    @MondoRockable 4 роки тому

    With the amount of effort you put in, you could have sliced that wood and had it curved sooner using bend lamination techniques. Good video seeing your issues and successes though. Well done.

  • @falihmehdi5040
    @falihmehdi5040 4 роки тому

    Top

  • @jeannakroenke5881
    @jeannakroenke5881 2 роки тому

    good for all

  • @ianm1898
    @ianm1898 4 роки тому

    hi sir, do you plug the cable in the middle of the light?
    is that right? I dont know electrical,but usually i see it plug in the corner section

  • @omarbrown44
    @omarbrown44 4 роки тому

    looks like some frustrating moments. Cool project though. I watch some boat building videos where they make bent frames. they sometimes slit the frame at half the width and most of length to assist in steam bending.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Yea, I watched some of those boat building vids....that's where I got the idea for the bag.

  • @osgeld
    @osgeld 4 роки тому +12

    low voltage, low wattage no problem, ditch the hot glue, and its not voltage that makes the led brighter or dimmer (well more on that in a moment) its the current.
    Where voltage matters is on those el-cheap-o strips the thing controlling the current is more often than not, a resistor, so math tells you that voltage divided by resistance = current. From the LED standpoint it don't give a crap as long as there's enough voltage to get past the diode junction, you could run 20 volts though an LED as long as you limit the current, though whatever is limiting that current is going to get screaming hot

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks much for the info!

    • @richgilb
      @richgilb 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, but he's not wrong in this instance when he said "lower voltage means less bright" because while the resistance remains constant there is a voltage drop so a current drop as well.

  • @wardencobb7442
    @wardencobb7442 4 роки тому

    Wouldn't it have been easier to make this project out of bent laminate? Why'd you choose this direction? Btw, good job -this is a really cool channel.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks Warden! Yes would have been easier with bent lamination, but would have been a different look

  • @vladimirpronyashin2707
    @vladimirpronyashin2707 4 роки тому

    Думаю паровая баня была слишком слабая и мало по времени. Когда формовал пластик то лучше не применять газовую горелку, она выжигает слой пластика и он может потом мутнеть и трескаться, лучше горячим воздухом - строительным феном например. А молодец, очень здорово получилось!

  • @jdubsvr6
    @jdubsvr6 4 роки тому

    Might I suggest ripping the oak and laminating it to the curves you are trying to achieve. You were pushing the limits of the material. You paid attention to the grain orientation of the material when you're steam bending wood. You want to orient the growth rings parallel to the direction of the bends. You'd probably want to steam the material 2+ hours to have a chance of pulling off those curves though.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      I thought of that, but how would you cut the channel then?

  • @Stormas3000
    @Stormas3000 4 роки тому

    You only need to use aluminium channel if you have a led strip that consumes more than 14.4w/m. For 14.4w/m aluminium foil is good enough.

  • @TrekkerMoto
    @TrekkerMoto 4 роки тому

    Voltage drop will be distributed over all the leds evenly since they are the same load. All LEDs will be lit the same no matter where you make the connection. The dimming will always be uniform with the same LED or bulbs being used across the circuit. For example if you only have 1 led, that led will drop almost the full line voltage. 2 LEDs each one will drop half line voltage. 3 LEDs will each drop one third line voltage and so on.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Ok, maybe I need some clarification here.... I know with individually addressable RGB LEDs, the voltage drop will lead to LEDs at the end of the strip being dimmer and/or not being colored differently than LEDs at the begining of the strip... I assumed the voltage drop would be the same issue here, since power and ground are wired similarly in both strips. Am I missing something?

    • @TrekkerMoto
      @TrekkerMoto 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial it may depend on how the strips themselves are wired but normal voltage drop in a circuit is distributed. I believe if all leds are parallel (which I believe would be how individually addressable leds are wired) you technically have line voltage to each led, but in the overall circuit, they would start to be limited by amperage, but that should still be equal across all since they are the same load to the circuit. What I think may be seen with what you're talking about is slight manufacturing difference between each individual LED that's causing some to dim more at low power than others, but at normal power levels they look uniform. I would need to have a strip in front of me doing what you're describing to know for sure, but I would totally expect each led to have the same voltage voltage drop and the same amperage draw across each. I haven't played with any led strips since the crummy ones when they first came out, so never had addressable ones, but I've always been under the assumption what limits length of the strips is the power supply and circuit sizes inside the strips

  • @ShopSDB
    @ShopSDB 4 роки тому

    Still watching the video, but stopped it at 4:00,
    Why did that kickback occur?
    (Maybe there is some lesson in it for me).

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому +1

      Cutting thin strips of wood, there is always a greater risk of kickback since its easier for them to get pinched and they are lighter. I generally just stand so that my body isn't in the line of fire when cutting thin strips. Rockler also makes a thin rip jig, or you can use a festherboard to prevent kickback in this situation

    • @ShopSDB
      @ShopSDB 4 роки тому

      @@modustrial Thanks for your reply, luckily i never had kickback before but just like you, i never stay in line so should it ever happen, hopefully no harm is done.

  • @christianbroughton1409
    @christianbroughton1409 4 роки тому

    Ricky from the trailer park boys is nice with the woodworking eh

  • @derekcamp9764
    @derekcamp9764 4 роки тому +5

    Cool project. Just FYI the LEDs are in parallel not series so it wouldn't matter if you hook them up in the middle or the end the voltage drop will be the same at each LED.

    • @fgbhrl4907
      @fgbhrl4907 2 роки тому +1

      That's incorrect. If you connect at one end, the furthest end will have have a voltage drop due to the resistance in the copper foil. Connecting in the middle will halve that drop.

  • @deadbeef16
    @deadbeef16 4 роки тому

    To bend wood I usually let it sit 1-2 days submerged in water and use a heat gun to bend it. The less rezin the wood has, the easier it is.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Interesting method....I'll have to give it a try next time

  • @user-ln1zf6rm1q
    @user-ln1zf6rm1q 4 роки тому

    Good

  • @TECsta76
    @TECsta76 4 роки тому

    Erm Metal Work?

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      ??

    • @TECsta76
      @TECsta76 4 роки тому

      Just saying' most of the interesting stuff you make would be better off in metal..
      Up your game man get some wielding equipment..
      👍🏻

  • @g-dog100
    @g-dog100 2 роки тому

    Thanks!!!
    I’ve been trying to develop similar lamps!
    I’ll be ‘borrowing’ some of your hard earned results! Will gladly treat you to royalties!
    Come visit in Granada, Spain!!!

  • @theonlyari
    @theonlyari 4 роки тому

    Don't worry about the heat or the aluminum. You aren't dropping enough power for it to matter. Most of the heat will be in the power supply.

    • @modustrial
      @modustrial  4 роки тому

      Thanks for insight! 👍👍

  • @staff3183
    @staff3183 3 роки тому

    Я не увидел где трансформатор на ленту? Либо при их 110в он не нужен?

  • @RichardHaskins
    @RichardHaskins 4 роки тому

    You could have run the positive and negative power supply down each metal hanging cable. Great video tho.