Everything is a prototype
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Today I'm building something that I love and hate at the same time...a dining room light fixture. I'm a woodworker, but not an electrician, so the wooden parts of this build turned out great, but the electrical parts are another story. Come along as I come to terms with the fact that everything I make is a prototype.
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0:00 Intro
0:13 Everything is a Prototype
2:42 Why Time Doesn't Matter (to me)
4:52 Multitasking and Making a Light Panel
8:44 Buying New Tools
9:59 Boring Parts Are Important Too
10:48 Curves on Curves
12:21 How to Support the Channel
14:10 Turning Parts Into a Light Fixture
17:16 Why I Hate This Piece - Навчання та стиль
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split the lamp in half long wise behind the darker band, then space the top half and lower half far enough apart that your LEDs will be recessed so it looks smooth, this will also force the light to reflect off the center panel.. your art form is amazing, truly inspiring.. please keep pushing your designs.. thank you for all that you do.
I immediately thought this and came to the comments to see if anyone else had the same idea. Great minds, am I right? 😅
@@Fr0stbyte89 Yep. I immediately thought " Rout a channel in the dark band for the LED and hey, presto!" Does the exact same thing.....
Just commenting to boost this higher as I had the same thought. LED lights just look better when they are recessed into a channel and a router won't get into the curves so cutting the big piece in half and using the accent wood as a structural element to hold them together is the way to go.
I would also consider using a blind dovetail or rebate joint at the top for the cross pieces to avoid using plugs but that's getting very fancy.
Overall I love it.
Yep. This is the way forward. Recess and indirect light for LEDs. Also ensure one uses enough density so that individual lights are not discernable.
My original thought was to route a channel to recess the LEDs, partly because I thought there were multiple levels of strips and they wouldn't be the full depth of the wood, but this idea works too. You could split the inner layers of the bent lamination for the grooves on the ends. As they say, there's always more than one way to accomplish something.
Also, I'm pretty sure white acrylic is a thing and would be easier than making an epoxy sheet.
Despite you not liking the LED guts the view from almost every angle looks great! Well done Shaun!
Appreciate it! And you're right!
Felt potential disaster awaiting as soon as the project idea was presented, immediately I questioned “how is Shaun ever gonna lay on a light?“ ~Smile oN
Haha, I always figure out a way!
I did have thought Shaun. Why not route a channel in the inside in the centre- the thick bit - inset the LED’s and cover with a directional diffuser. It would then shine onto the centre and not be visible from below. Still a great build👍
Definitely a good idea, and something I considered. But honestly by the time I realized the issues, the lamp was too far along to make any big changes like that. Maybe if I ever get around to making a new version!
@@shaunboydmadethis: I understand you could have pressure to leave it in place, it’s only 6 screws to take the centre out and a bit of router work🤔. Maybe🤭. Will follow with interest. . .
The curved ends would be a problem. Cut it in half. Mount the light channel in the middle, cover the outside with the accent bar. Lights and wires would be recessed.
@@shaunboydmadethisplease do and then make plans! This is too good not to.
@@MattGilliesCwnAnnwnthe solution is to plan ahead and basically build the groove into the lamination process. Start with two thinner strips, aided by a raised portion in the form for alignment, and then once thick enough move to the full width strips
I highly recommend getting thin, self adhesive COB Led strips, and doing multiple loops across the inside. They are super pretty and even when you look at them directly, it looks like a continuous glowing string without any cables or fixtures etc.
Came here to say this - COB strips!
You have all the tools - so you could get the super thin ones (2.7mm) and use a router to make a groove for it on the inside. It will also fit nicely on the curved pieces.
I concur. I'd go one step further and embed a thin aluminum channel for the COBs, and you could even put a frosted diffuser on them if you like. They make channel/diffuser kits that are only 3/8" deep, so that would look very trick! The aluminum would add some polish and help with heat.
Shaun I have a fix for this light fixture. Inside flat screen TVs there are sheets that cover the LEDs that backlight the screen. The sheets diffuse the light. If you installed a thin sill of sorts above and below the led stops you would now a piece in between the sills and would completely cover the LEDs on the long portions. You could probably do the same around the curves on the end of it was accordion folded then bowed. Just an idea I thought I’d suggest. Regardless the fixture came out amazing.
You're a great storyteller (and woodworker)! Happy holidays. I hope 2024 is a great year for you and your family.
Thanks Jay! Same to you!
May I suggest the following.... de-montage the white epoxy panel ..plane the top edge really plane and sand as smooth as possible (by hand NOT with Your Mirka!) ..then place on this "edge" a strip of LED lighting ( check if the lighting needs more oumpf or not) ...when this gives You suffient light on the table, I am sure You can add an suteble enclosure for the nasty LED strip on top! The way this should work is by scattering light on the white pigment particals in the epoxy mass. Greetings from a retyred ophthalmist in the Netherlands🤓
4:00 boiling a pot of water and then dunking the peices into the water makes the wood more flexible I had to do a project and I did this to make some curves
5:48 if you scale this up a little bit you can turn it into a coffee table or a media table. Mabey next project idea?
Also a possible way to make it so you can't see the lights is get some semi non see throught plexi glass or something of the sorts and glue it to the inside of it
Caulking tip for you Shaun: Instead of 'dragging' the caulking tip, and having to go back and tool with your finger, instead, PUSH the tip along while applying the caulk. Watch carefully as you go and don't apply too much caulk. Practice with this technique a bit and you'll (almost) never have to tool a caulk joint again.
@@GolfDropout Sorry, I don't have that ability. Would if I could though! It's pretty easy though, just push the caulk out ahead of the tip as you push the gun forward.
@@GolfDropout Don't have the ability to do the video upload, sorry. Of course I can do the technique, been using it for decades. It's so easy though, it really doesn't need a video. Just push instead of drag!
@@GolfDropout Checkout Modustrial Maker, he has a number of videos making molds for concrete but it's a similar process. He uses a ball-ended tool commonly using in cake decoration to form the fillet in the silicone.
Put a ledge on under the led light to hide it from eye sight and then place an angled reflective piece on the top edge of the epoxy to redirect the light more down word. Love the lamp.
Just a thought... the exterior darker colored wood can be made into a bridge connecting a split horizontally the main fixture. Allow say an inch of recess clearance between the split section for fixing the led light strip. It'll be a cleaner built!
When I saw the design first, I thought the middle contrast oval ring is to strengthen the slot for led inside. So if you make a second version, you can create a lot inside and try to inlay the led strip. Design looks awesome!
This creation is beautiful ! Don't be so hard on yourself. Seriously.
My immediate reaction would be to split the inner fixture, and use that to create a recess to hide most of the LED strip, since you've currently got a decorative, but non-functional accent strip. By augmenting that with an inner accent strip, you could hide almost all of the visible LED strip. With this, the main challenge would be whether enough of the resin panel is illuminated to provide good light.
acrylic panels make good diffusers and come with various attenuative values. also, they make flexible led channel, and most accept a cover for a nice neat look.
nice piece, simple channel fix, and finished the vid off with my favourite humm song
That is an amazing light! And I personally have had dozens of light fixtures over tables and have rarely sat under them looking up at the working parts, it really is that view in the room we look at along with the quality of the light it gives. I say you nailed this.
I appreciate hearing that! I sit below it and stare straight up at it now haha!
For the bonus points it's the best part, just look in your cup after you wake up.
You could swap out the epoxy panel for a light sheet or edge lit acrylic.
Is a shame as it’s a lovely looking light. Could maybe also use a slimmer LED and set it into the wood instead of screwed to face. You should do a mark 2 build. Shows development and progress. Would be interesting to see
If the center panel were two pieces of etched acrylic with polished edges you could have built a seat for the acrylic to nest into with edge lights pointing both down and up. If your acrylic was thick enough you could probably drill a hole in the top side down to the center connection and maybe get away with it.
A very art deco feel. I really like it.
I feel you on the "I'm prototyping everything" when you build all your projects - been building guitars for ~10 years or so now and because I'm not using a CNC for anything each one has that same one-off feel through the build. Definitely dig what you do here - keep things up! Cheers!
For sure, which is fun, but can also be frustrating! Thanks for watching!
This is wonderful. Congratulations.
Hi Shaun, I absolutely love this design! If I ever make a light like this, your design will be a strong contender. I have a possible solution for your love/hate relationship with this though. It’s something I came up with when retro-fitting an art deco hanging lamp in my dining room. I didn’t want to destroy an antique fixture, but at the same time looking up at the lights inside it was not an aesthetically pleasing experience. So I ordered a sheet of quarter inch frosted polycarbonate (Lexan?) and cut it to fit just inside the perimeter of the lamp. You could do the same and suspend it from the cross bars with (insert favorite method here) I used thin brass strips which matched the brass from which the lamp was made. You would need to cut a slot in the plastic for the epoxy to stick out. But eminently do-able. As I see it there is no need to make a second lamp, just « finish » this one! In case you are wondering, frosted polycarbonate glows nicely when lit from behind. Hope you find this interesting, or even useful.
Cheers,
Keith
Ah, that's a good idea! Thanks!
@@shaunboydmadethis You are most welcome. Not so incidentally, your lamp has an art deco esthetic I admire. Did I say I liked the design? Cheers
Shaun, @keithklein4538 pretty much nailed what I scrolled down to comment on. I'd add that if you want it even faster (and maybe cheaper), go you your fave box store (orange or blue) and pick up an 1/8th inch sheet of Lexan, cut to fit as Keith said, and then sand one or both sides with about P220... instant frosting, no added $$. Also, the 1/8" would be lighter, if that's an issue. I've done this myself with some home built-ins, works great.
BTW, I dig that lamp too. Definitely not vomitous.
Dude, you laying down at the end absolutely sent me 😂 Well done though. Wires suck, sorry about that bit -but the design is so strong.
Another fix would be an inner ring from that same white plexi piece you have, wide enough to cover the wires, if you look from below you would just see a white ring. Might even help to reflect light.
One could recess the LED strip. Since it's supposed to be relatively bright, I'd also worry about its longevity without a metal heatsink, though most people don't think about it. I'd make sure somehow that people sitting under the light can't see the step itself.
The middle panel could be made with plexiglass instead of epoxy. I've can easily find plexiglass and similar materials in various colors/frostiness.
Your macro view of time concept is "lead time" or "cycle time" or "wall clock time" (depending on exactly what you're measuring) and is the best way of measuring your time.
Great design as always Shaun.
Although im suprised no one else has mentioned that you could of just bought a white sheet of arcrylic/perspex cut to size. Would have saved you hell of a lot of time, money and materials.
Dude!!! That is an awesome piece of light furniture fixture. Thanks for showing it. You just gave me the idea I was looking for.
As a You Tube fan, and fan of your content. Any project that has multiple components and techniques that are not seen everyday is awesome to watch.
I think I know a good solution to your light issue. Make it glow from the inside. You make a similar epoxy panel, but completely transparent. You round the edges, then you sand-blast it, making the surface matte. Then you slice it in half length-wise, right in the middle. Which will give you two pieces each with a transparent long edge. That's where you make the LEDs shine. So you have two strips of LEDs: one shining up into the upper half, one shining down into the lower half. And the LED strips are in the middle, so they aren't visible.
I am always looking forward to your videos. Thank you for the excellent content.
Thanks for watching!
Not a woodworker but:
-Remove the contrasting end piece
-Saw the lamp in two halves horizontally.
-Use a router to recess half the LED channel in each half of the armature.
-Use a router to recess half of the cable diameter in the round pieces.
-Reassemble, using the contrasting end piece to hide the cut.
Also there's diffusers that will mask the individual LED elements a bit.
Also, nice lamp!
A beautiful light fixture! I work with LEDs daily, so i would say first, always recess your strips, secondly, for indoor use, you don't need the silicone or rubber covered strips, those are designed for outdoor use, for splash protection etc. Indoors, you can go with plain strips, they are thinner and also, to plug them up, solder your leads using finer cable. You can also use LED channels in your recesses to add your diffusion cover.
Overall, a great end product, just minor adjustments needed, which you can technically do (minus the recess). I would replace the bulky strips with the thinner ones and replace the plastic channels with nice aluminium ones for cleaner aesthetics, so even if you look inside, it still looks sophisticated 😊
You may not like the "light" part of this lamp, but your design is awesome. It would make an interesting Pool table light.
Maybe if you could have angled the white plexi that you made and used a diffuser channel ... I'm no expert. But I would most defintely buy a version 2.0 from you.
Really cool design.. i like it
The design on this piece is awesome! To be such a small component of the overall process, that inside chamfer detail really adds a lot. The video itself was also really well executed, timing, flow, and overall entertainment value - it was all there. Solid work m'man!
too humble, for what its worth, I think it looks amazing. Great job
Some quuarter round under/above the light strips would hide them a bit on the straightaways. It would give them an inset-type appearance.
The best part of waking up ☕️ 16:50
The light fixture looks like it should be in the David Lynch Dune movie. (This is a compliment).
Shaun you've outdone yourself with this light! Amazing work dude
You can get flexible sealed LED tubes which are 10mm deep and 5mm wide and very bright, we use them on our yachts. Make a groove round the inside and place the light there. Personally what I’d do is once the main curved “pill” is made, cut it down the middle so you have two pills. The accent piece bridges the cut, which you space out by 5mm for the LED strip, and provides the structure to hold it all together.
Rice or paper screen will help diffuse the light and hide the light components. White glue and then a little mist of water and it’ll tighten up the paper like a drum skin.
It looks amazing! I know how you feel about the light strip, but it is just a prototype. A beautiful prototype! Thanks for sharing your talents.
I was just thinking "how is he going to lay on this," when the image of Shaun superimposed on the lamp showed up. Well-played! Awesome video.
Hey Shaun!!
Looks like that would make a cool pool table lamp!
Happy New Year!!!
I think you did a great job on the light fixture. Now, this is just my thought. I would recommend you add a brass polished shelf just big enough lay the LED on and allow the light to hit the light panel. The reason for brass and not the black tubing is to give the light another surface to reflect off of.
Beautiful light, regardless if the lights show, etc. it’s like a mid mod rectangular lamp which is ridiculously long for a name but I enjoy the curved edges and just learning how you did it all. When you showed the reveal, first off the semi transparent white epoxy panel worked very well, secondly I wonder if prior to assembly with wood glue and all of you routed a dado or groove to inset the leds if that’d be better and some way to hide it better would be pouring a very thin strip panel to sit directly onto the leds. In fact you could remove the bigger panel all together and make a screen to set over the leds themselves like you can buy semi transparent filters. The one bummer is that the light obviously can’t go through the hardwood, this build and light reminds me somewhat of what Pask Makes built a year or so ago. His was a large circle that he routed by hand every little squiggle shape to allow light to shine through and it’s gorgeous! So many possibilities and options but if I were facing your dilemma myself I’d go that route. Or embrace the light as a specific purpose light like for a desk when the light really needs to hover above a desk for ie. And about the shed, I’d love to get the metal version, my concern is the area I live in produces winds 40+ and consistently. Doesn’t sound bad at 40mph but it always gets more severe sometimes up to 70-80 mph and we get dust storms from the drought and again seems to never stop blowing. I’d be afraid of that thing lifting away but I’ll have to check out their products and see if I could I mount it to a concrete base or something. I should build my own damn traditional shed but like you mentioned… time is a factor and I’m not fast at building. I tend to stall, become indecisive, over research all possibilities but eventually finish a build and it’s well made and beautiful but obnoxiously overthought and I’m afraid I’d do the same thing with a shed. Anyone else struggle with time lines and procrastination? Most frustrating quality to have lol
Love this piece. Couple of questions.... (1) About what radius were the bends? (2) About how thin were the laminations?
This is a very quite really great looking prototype.
Pool hall lights is what we call them. Very cool video
Looks fantastic Shawn! Super cool design!
I love that dacia you have overthere. We own 2 at this point plus their electric one 2023!
Bent laminations from resawn boards is such an incredible medium to create from. Love it.
For sure!
Shaun,
First off, I love the design and execution of the bent wood and the contrasting epoxy reflector of the light. (whether it be a chandelier or pendant or whatever) From the light component standpoint I would have to agree, on the thicker strip lights do look pretty $#*^y. I ran into a similar issue when trying to conceal an led strip light in a wood channel above my work from home desk and had success with Feit brand Onesync "Tape Lights'". The strips are thinner, more flexible and easier to conceal than a lot of strip lights. They may be worth a look.? Anyway, thanks for finishing the project and posting this video even though the final look wasn't exactly what you had hoped.
Cheers,
Ryan
Great vid! Actually quite a beautiful piece you made!
I feel like a recessed more bare bones LED strip would have done the trick here pretty easily. Once you started assembly without a channel though I definitely had some questions :)
Either way its a great piece and thanks for sharing!
I have a similar design I've been developing in my head for the last few years (plus a handful of sketches). It's great to see it come to life and gives me more motivation to get it done.
I would have gone for a more transparent panel in the middle; as for the light a grove inside to recess the LED strip would have been fine
Anyway nice looking light fixtures 👍🏻
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Looks great!
Well done, thanks for sharing
I have no idea why you don't like it, it's an awesome build! I really like the result. very cool idea, very neet execution. well done.
Shaun I noticed you have some hand planes in the background. However I don’t see you use them often. How about a video walking us through your shop and the new additions
Yeah, they are mostly wall decoration, except for the occasional use. Probably wouldn't do a video about that stuff here, but it's definitely something I would post on my Patreon.
Another super cool video Shaun. Love the design and the story :).
Your work always amazes me. Thank you for the inspiration.
You could route a channel in the wood and put the LED strip in covered by a difuser, that should hide it nicely
I think this is my favorite one of your builds. It doesn't look like a prototype. I also love how you used the first curved piece to make the accent curved pieces fit exactly.
I would love a part 2 where the concealment of hte LED was designed in from the start, there's a bunch of ways it can be done
Bravo Shaun. I'm sure you're like me and you've already sorted out the fix 15 different ways. The next one will be trick!!!
Haha, yep! I know exactly what I would do next time!
You could totally recess those lights inside the shade, on the inside of the strip wrapped around the shade. Cut a groove all the way around, sink the lights in, maybe put a bit of an interior shelf under them to hide them even more, done!
Replacing the aluminum channel with a routed channel in the inner surface of the shade should eliminate some of your issues. Many contemporary LED lighting strips are supplied on spools similar to magnetic tape reels. The radius of the spools are significantly smaller than the radius of your laminated ends. The only reason to use the aluminum channels on straight sections would be to augment heat dissipation.
Really love the design with this one Shaun...very clean and modern. The chamfer detail on the banding pieces is a nice touch as well. Enjoyed this build video...keep it up!
4:45 That actually worked? Genuine surprise 😮
I think it's a great looking fixture,, any light is going to have wires and being that particular about it is undue stress over something that just has to be, I didn't see any wire going to the ceiling so I'm calling it a win, nice job and great design, I might be building one myself
This is so inspiring, I love the design! Great video
9:37 Me Waiting for those Gloves or shirt edge to get caught in the bandsaw. 😲😲 Definitely skipped safety class
With the centre trim piece you could have made the inner part in two with a gap between the top half and the bottom to recess the LED strip - the same effect could still be achieved by routing a channel around the middle inside?
Recess the LEDs inside the wood with covered slot connecting them would solve that ... nice light thingy BTW.
I like this lamp. Route a recess for the light. You can make a small list below the light, so it is not so easy to see from below. Get a semitransparent edge chamfered or rounded tempered glass (about 6 mm thick) with premade holes in it. A glazier can easily make this. (or use a milky white acrylic plate) Use round sticks to attach the glass (or acrylics). And make some supporting rings, which holds the glass in place on the middle of the round stick - glue one side ring on first and let it cure. Then put on the plate and glue the other side ring on. If you use a darker material for the round sticks, you can let the sticks stick out through holes on the side and trim it down, so the ends become contrasting features seen from the outside. In that case, you should wait fixing the glass (acrylics) until you assemble the middle part, so you can stick one end of the round sticks through the holes with glue, put on the glass (acrylics) add the other side supporting ring, and then push the other end through on the opposite side with glue.
I think there are definitely less bulky, more flexible LED strips out there that would give you the opportunity to recess the strips in the wood. Perhaps something low voltage so the wires coming down from the ceiling into the fixture could be smaller, and the transformer could be hidden in the celling like LED puck lights use.
Shaun try cutting a channel in the epoxy and place the LED strip in there facing the epoxy
Love the light, super sleek. If you want to hide away those wires, just add a piece of rice paper as a diffuser, and you'll never see it!
Glad you're making videos on your own again, cheers!
I was waiting to see just how in the heck you were going to lie on that thing and what you did was nothing short of EPIC. Love the light and would love to see more builds like this.
I think it looks amazing! Probably you already knew this but why didn't you use the accent piece in the middle to embed the led light so they would be flush with the inside wall? That would be for version 2 of this lamp.
Love the VW Caddy in the background
So my thoughts on the visible LEDs, first you probably could've gone with cheaper LEDs that don't have all that clunky waterproofing, just the FCB and chips, then while assembling the entire thing before you ratcheted it all together, cut a groove along the inside where the accent band is to nest the LEDs inside of, so they don't stick out as much, then you could use a cheap flexible diffusion channel's cover to diffuse the LED's, and run another notch up the inside in the middle and use the middle support rod for the transparent sheet to run cables from, assuming that's not incorporated in the other two suspension cables, the only downside is you'd be able to see the hot-spots of the LEDs through the diffusion layer, unless you get a strip with a high enough density of LEDs
great project and process. was just going to say that corian might be a great material for the center panel. it looks great and has a slight translucency to it.
I LOVE the techniques and craftsmanship used to make this light. LED’s can be tricky…but there are some really thin strips that will give you lots of options. I would love to see this with a full spectrum light with colors. Great job!
I honestly didn't realize how thick this light strip was when I bought it. I've used the thin ones before, but figured I would try something a bit "nicer". Thanks for watching!
The light turned out great Shaun! While you might not be able to iterate on this design, another great aspect of making UA-cam videos is that someone else seeing it might iterate on your design and post a video of it that you get to watch. Thanks for sharing!
Could try using the diffuser panel from a large LCD display eg. from a monitor or TV.
Oh Shaun it’s lovely!
Thank you, Alison!
Always excited to see a new video!
Lovely looking light it really gose well witht the table below
This reminded me of Poul Henningsen's lamps - same base concept of not being able to see the light source, and he made some iconic lamps from it (ph lamps) - - just to say well done, and I think it would be interesting to see further iterations on this design!
Great video!