I think you summed it up a few times by saying the Forza is more luxurious. The NC is clearly built to a lower price point, and misses out on spec accordingly eg front forks, front brakes, TFT screen, bluetooth connectivity, keyless, etc. Some things can be added as options to the NC eg centre stand, USB charger, DCT, but then the price gap starts to close. The Forza obviously offers much better weather protection (bigger screen and fairing), which makes it better suited to commuting and touring, rather than "adventuring". PS I would have enjoyed an engine start up and a quick ride out, but thanks for the great review.
Hiya Toby and Mark its me Keith again, well this is just the icing on the cake..Ive started to express Great interest in the Forza 750 after seeing Marks Great Review, THEN I fall in love with the Looks of the Motorbike version the NC750X which has perfect storage in the Tank area..Im looking all over the place for a Perfect Bike Comparison between the Bike and Scooter versions and what Happens MARK AND TOBY are doing that Comparison....All you really need is RIDER CAM TV ON UA-cam. Because you get the full SP on all your Two wheel and Rider needs.......Again Remarkable Guys.....Thankyou....
Last year's Forza 350 has a motorised adjustable screen - so why Honda have dropped this on this later model with so many other improvements is a mystery. I bought one here in Thailand last Sept and absolutely love it. It is so practical, and feels so much different from your typical scooter. Cost was 175,000B (£4000) on the road - quite a bit cheaper than Europe I think. And it came with a 5yr warranty.
NC750x is nice, but the Forza 750 does it all day long for me. Great little all round bike. I'm getting a DCT in around 6-8 month but the only question for me is....... Do I go for the X ADV 750 or the Forza 750!?. For me personally atm, the Forza 750 is just doing it for me. Probably because I just prefer the look of it & also, I'm not really too interested in doing any off roading but more just adventure riding on roads & road trips to places like - Skegness, Sutton-on-sea, Matlock, Buxton, Bakewell, Bradgate Park/Beacon Hill etc etc... And for them reasons I'm choosing the Forza 750. 😎
U can expect to add extra costs to the nc750x, since suspension is not completely adequate, can bottom-out, and also seat upgrade.....both of which should be unnecessary on a 2021 bike 😐
First of all, this was the best comparison video I've ever seen for any product! I plan on getting a 2021 NC750X DCT at the end of this season. The Forza is tempting to the scooter boy in me though.
I own the nc750x dct 2020 model. Luv it. Does all I need . I do like the new nc750x as the seat height is lower than the 2020 model. I got my bike lower. As I have 28 inside leg. But great bike to ride. Keep up the good work. See you both in your next video. From a very warm north east of England.
Thank you for the comparison. The bikes are just about equal in all aspects, except the price. The scooter is about $1,000 more, so you're paying for the extra niceties.
I hired the ADV 750 when I went to Madeira Portugal. I absolutely loved it very powerful going though the mountains hills. I wanted style as I had the R1200RT I traded it in and got the new 21 model Forza 750. Same again love the bike.
@@GJS-live No Match have a test ride on the Forza or the NC750. I have hip problems so it's better for me. I wanted style so a big difference from the Honda 750 ADV
Nc750x dct and Xadv most advanced bike in the world's on 750cc segment, Nc750x anywhere you go, Better price, better fuel economy 34km/L, Different riding mode with HONDA traction control, Large storage! Which features others brands don't have
Yep, totally agree. Edit: I spoke to Mark about this and the reason they haven't done bums on seats, rubber on road is because they had 6 bikes to review in a very limited time span.
Great Videos Guys. I live in Austria and near the Grossglockner. Spent an eternity trying to decide what to buy as I am an "Old...er man" with a lot of dodgy joints thanks to Rugby. SO after watching your video I have ordered a new Forza 750 even though the width of the seat makes reaching the floor a little stretch (5' 9 and a bit). We travel every week up to Salzburg (65 miles) to visit our daughter so hope that this bike will be a winner!!!
When he talks about the storage space and you keep filming your friend, not showing it, how helpful of a consumer advice is that you think? Also, the constant rustling of your jacket made it impossible to sit through. I am also subbed but this vid aint doing it for me. Sorry chaps.
I really wanted to enjoy this review as I am interested in both bikes, but the reviewers need to practice their camerawork. Lots of lovely tree shots and bird song, not enough aiming the camera down at the bikes or micing the presenters. And jacket rustle. So. Much. Rustling.
I already own a 750S but, as a bit of a short arse, the X was always a bit tall for me... Until now, as Honda have reduced the seat height. Whooppee. As such I've now test ridden both the DCT and manual versions of the X (but not the Forza). Personally, I didn't really like the DCT as I missed being able to feather the clutch for low speed control. I found the DCT to be a bit ON/OFF in comparison, especially when pulling away. My other complaint would be what an auto car driver would refer to as "kickdown". Now I may be missing something, but opening the throttle wide for overtaking does virtually nothing. Now I appreciate, given time and with a bit more experience, perhaps you could use the paddle change? I prefer clutch and kick though as I feel I know what response I will get. It's also worth saying that the DCT is considerably more expensive and also heavier then the manual so, for my tastes, it would have to be the manual. As for the Forza, that little bit of luxury also comes at a cost 2.5k more to be exact. (7.5k NC750X 10k Forza). That would have to be seriously better to get me to pay that much extra which I seriously doubt. Just my two hapeth'
PLUS Mark and Toby do their videos in such a Fun way They bounce Humour off each other, but still give THE PERFECT AND HONEST REVIEW !!!! SHAME ABOUT THE MIC.....
Hi guys, will you recommend the NC750x as a first bike for a 50 years old beginner. Will drive mostly in town but want also long country adventures!? Thanx and grettings from Serbia ✌️
2 to 3 hours in the saddle youl be grateful for the NC. The forza you sit more flat which over time puts the pressure on the lower back, irrespective of whether your legs are positioned forward or not. On the NC your legs naturally drop a little more which takes pressure away from the lower back. Also the NC is not nose heavy and of course with the storage under the tank has a similar capacity option to the forza. If you can do without a few gadgets, the NC is a steal in comparison
Having the nc i think honda killed it. The single front disc and the suspension are really letdowns. That's a shame cause i love the practicality of this bike and don't want a scooter like forza or xadv
I was afraid it would be too bluflly after the first words, but it wasn't! ❤ I watched this for: 1. English accent ... ... 2. To know your opinions about these bikes 🙂 I tested NC. Great bike but too heavy. I think this Forza 750 would be better... but this chain (maintenance problem).
Not so sure I am enjoying this format. You've done the same format a couple of times now, it always goes the same way. "look at what we've got to show you", "what a great looking bike", BUT here's why we don't really like it. You did something similar with the v-strom recently. This one was worse for me because (and I tried to sit through the whole video, maybe I missed it? ) you didn't even start the bikes to let us hear how they sound. What about the NC750 issue with the rev limiter kicking in, is that still an issue? Sorry chaps, I'm subscribed and all that, so I like most of the content, but these last few haven't done it for me.
I have the manual predecessor to the NC750X model you reported on chaps. Really enjoy riding it. Nice to see the differences with the new model. Good to see the Forza too. Keep up the good work. Ride safe.
I have the NC with an aftermarket seat but the seat slope on the 2017 NC is uncomfortable. Getting on a bit and I am very interested in the Forza because of the higher spec, more comfortable seat and the footboards to release pressure on your knees.
NC a bit faster and flexible for the town and Forza more comfortable for long trips with better brakes and suspension yes?I like them both and i cannot choose .To be honest i like more the look of the NC but i havent decide yet.
The USB on the NC750x is an optional extra. I'm getting 75mpg out of mine (DCT) running in. Done 850 miles so far. Still waiting for an options pack (spot lights, high screen, rack & top box etc) there is no projected delivery date yet so feeling a bit short changed at the moment. The DCT is perfect. Just traded a 2016 Crosstourer DCT and the gearbox is light years better on the NC. I got a black one by the way.
Very good, I think these vids are better than some because you have 2 points of view which are discussed and questioned. Also very informative as I am gonna go auto soon if they dont bring out a XL750 DCT. 2024 is gonna be a special year with lots of stuff goin on.
I absolutely loved the DCT NC750X I owned, ultimately it was unreliable and Honda struggled to fix it. Sadly I wouldn’t have another for that reason. Awesome bike though!!
@@stevebolton8471 turned out to be the electronic shifter motor. Honda had the gearbox apart, but it was the persistent tech who realised what the problem was. Apparently they’re about £400 new. I fully appreciate things break but what really scared me was they had no idea what was going on. Judging by the Africa Twin forums it’s not an uncommon issue. ☹️🔧
PS, dont Place yr helmet on the ground..............ANTS etc, experience speaks, Santander moving from the bike "park" (helmet on ground) to " you are about to board park" and ants start climbing out of helmet over face mmmm not good.. Yes Honda did F up with changing the horn and indicator position around a few years ago. Now get on and ride them bikes. Mo.
I used to leave my helmet on the mirror sometimes overnight, until one day I felt something twitch by my right ear one day shortly after riding away. When I stopped to investigate, a small lizard jumped out.
Make this with three wheels so any car license holder could buy one without have to jump through hoops to get a bike license and they will sell in droves.
Nice video, but why on earth would a bike need rider modes with 56 hp ???. Apart from perhaps ABS, all the rest of the costly electronics is pointless !. Indicators always on, most dangerous idea ever on a bike in my opinion, because if the R/H bulb fails without you knowing, people think you are turning left ...
The cameraman is so bad, talking about the car, the car is the main character, but I can't see the whole car in the picture frame while the frame above is empty, it's annoying to watch
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I think you summed it up a few times by saying the Forza is more luxurious. The NC is clearly built to a lower price point, and misses out on spec accordingly eg front forks, front brakes, TFT screen, bluetooth connectivity, keyless, etc. Some things can be added as options to the NC eg centre stand, USB charger, DCT, but then the price gap starts to close. The Forza obviously offers much better weather protection (bigger screen and fairing), which makes it better suited to commuting and touring, rather than "adventuring". PS I would have enjoyed an engine start up and a quick ride out, but thanks for the great review.
You forgot about the much better swing arm.
@@jimporter True - I missed that.
Hiya Toby and Mark its me Keith again, well this is just the icing on the cake..Ive started to express Great interest in the Forza 750 after seeing Marks Great Review, THEN I fall in love with the Looks of the Motorbike version the NC750X which has perfect storage in the Tank area..Im looking all over the place for a Perfect Bike Comparison between the Bike and Scooter versions and what Happens MARK AND TOBY are doing that Comparison....All you really need is RIDER CAM TV ON UA-cam. Because you get the full SP on all your Two wheel and Rider needs.......Again Remarkable Guys.....Thankyou....
Hey Keith, thanks so much for the kind words glad your enjoying our vids. We love making them :) ride safe
Last year's Forza 350 has a motorised adjustable screen - so why Honda have dropped this on this later model with so many other improvements is a mystery. I bought one here in Thailand last Sept and absolutely love it. It is so practical, and feels so much different from your typical scooter. Cost was 175,000B (£4000) on the road - quite a bit cheaper than Europe I think. And it came with a 5yr warranty.
It's not that cool. It's making a lot of noise at potholes. And how often do you change the position of this screen? It's a gadget. Manual is enough.
NC750x is nice, but the Forza 750 does it all day long for me. Great little all round bike.
I'm getting a DCT in around 6-8 month but the only question for me is.......
Do I go for the X ADV 750 or the Forza 750!?.
For me personally atm, the Forza 750 is just doing it for me. Probably because I just prefer the look of it & also, I'm not really too interested in doing any off roading but more just adventure riding on roads & road trips to places like - Skegness, Sutton-on-sea, Matlock, Buxton, Bakewell, Bradgate Park/Beacon Hill etc etc...
And for them reasons I'm choosing the Forza 750. 😎
xddv is not an off road bike, that's just marketing. Also the Forza is more comfortable, better wind protection.
U can expect to add extra costs to the nc750x, since suspension is not completely adequate, can bottom-out, and also seat upgrade.....both of which should be unnecessary on a 2021 bike 😐
Welcome back gents. I'm planning to test ride the NC750X soon :)
First of all, this was the best comparison video I've ever seen for any product!
I plan on getting a 2021 NC750X DCT at the end of this season. The Forza is tempting to the scooter boy in me though.
hi, thank you so much those really kind words.. we love making videos and glad you enjoyed it :) ride safe :)
I own the nc750x dct 2020 model. Luv it. Does all I need . I do like the new nc750x as the seat height is lower than the 2020 model. I got my bike lower. As I have 28 inside leg. But great bike to ride. Keep up the good work. See you both in your next video. From a very warm north east of England.
Thank you for the comparison. The bikes are just about equal in all aspects, except the price. The scooter is about $1,000 more, so you're paying for the extra niceties.
I hired the ADV 750 when I went to Madeira Portugal. I absolutely loved it very powerful going though the mountains hills. I wanted style as I had the R1200RT I traded it in and got the new 21 model Forza 750. Same again love the bike.
How does it compare to the RT?
@@GJS-live No Match have a test ride on the Forza or the NC750. I have hip problems so it's better for me. I wanted style so a big difference from the Honda 750 ADV
Great review. Really can't decide between nc750x dct, forza 750 or xadv..
Just read your post. If you want style I'll go for the Forza. That's was I have. I did have the BMW R1200RT.
Nc750x dct and Xadv most advanced bike in the world's on 750cc segment,
Nc750x anywhere you go,
Better price, better fuel economy 34km/L,
Different riding mode with HONDA traction control,
Large storage!
Which features others brands don't have
I gave up,the sound just too annoying
Hope you upload the video of you riding the two bikes 🤞🏻 That’s what we want to see 😉
Yep, totally agree. Edit: I spoke to Mark about this and the reason they haven't done bums on seats, rubber on road is because they had 6 bikes to review in a very limited time span.
Great Videos Guys. I live in Austria and near the Grossglockner. Spent an eternity trying to decide what to buy as I am an "Old...er man" with a lot of dodgy joints thanks to Rugby. SO after watching your video I have ordered a new Forza 750 even though the width of the seat makes reaching the floor a little stretch (5' 9 and a bit). We travel every week up to Salzburg (65 miles) to visit our daughter so hope that this bike will be a winner!!!
It will be I’m sure… We stay at the Hinterglen Hotel often. Ride safe
I like the scooter for the step through and storage but I prefer the 750 for the larger tire diameter, it should give a longer lasting tire.
pretty poor quality audio guys. couldn't take more than 11 min.
sorry about that, hopefully got much better now,.... we live and learn :)
The '2 Old Guys" from Sesame Street, that's you two.
I love it-Bill, age 62!
When he talks about the storage space and you keep filming your friend, not showing it, how helpful of a consumer advice is that you think? Also, the constant rustling of your jacket made it impossible to sit through. I am also subbed but this vid aint doing it for me. Sorry chaps.
I really wanted to enjoy this review as I am interested in both bikes, but the reviewers need to practice their camerawork. Lots of lovely tree shots and bird song, not enough aiming the camera down at the bikes or micing the presenters. And jacket rustle. So. Much. Rustling.
I already own a 750S but, as a bit of a short arse, the X was always a bit tall for me... Until now, as Honda have reduced the seat height. Whooppee.
As such I've now test ridden both the DCT and manual versions of the X (but not the Forza). Personally, I didn't really like the DCT as I missed being able to feather the clutch for low speed control. I found the DCT to be a bit ON/OFF in comparison, especially when pulling away. My other complaint would be what an auto car driver would refer to as "kickdown". Now I may be missing something, but opening the throttle wide for overtaking does virtually nothing. Now I appreciate, given time and with a bit more experience, perhaps you could use the paddle change? I prefer clutch and kick though as I feel I know what response I will get.
It's also worth saying that the DCT is considerably more expensive and also heavier then the manual so, for my tastes, it would have to be the manual.
As for the Forza, that little bit of luxury also comes at a cost 2.5k more to be exact. (7.5k NC750X 10k Forza). That would have to be seriously better to get me to pay that much extra which I seriously doubt.
Just my two hapeth'
What´s the difference between the two?? The PRICE!!
PLUS Mark and Toby do their videos in such a Fun way They bounce Humour off each other, but still give THE PERFECT AND HONEST REVIEW !!!! SHAME ABOUT THE MIC.....
thanks for the really kind words buddy. we try to make them fun :)
Hi guys, will you recommend the NC750x as a first bike for a 50 years old beginner. Will drive mostly in town but want also long country adventures!? Thanx and grettings from Serbia ✌️
Either bike is awesome, 50? That’s just a number… Ride safe
Hello Mark & Toby, can you do your advance motorbike course on a DCT bike? sorry am a new rider so may well be a silly question. cheers Nathan
Of course you can!!! Where are you based? Ride safe
Thanks Mark, just thought they would like you to do it on a geared/clutch bike to see your bike control, I am in Wiltshire.
Cannot hear the commentary
Damn I love this. They are really having fun with these monstrous bikes.
2 to 3 hours in the saddle youl be grateful for the NC. The forza you sit more flat which over time puts the pressure on the lower back, irrespective of whether your legs are positioned forward or not. On the NC your legs naturally drop a little more which takes pressure away from the lower back. Also the NC is not nose heavy and of course with the storage under the tank has a similar capacity option to the forza. If you can do without a few gadgets, the NC is a steal in comparison
Having the nc i think honda killed it. The single front disc and the suspension are really letdowns. That's a shame cause i love the practicality of this bike and don't want a scooter like forza or xadv
Unfortunately, we'll never see the Forza 750 in the US... Grrrr!
Your mic didn’t have a moment it was more like ten minutes 😤
Too much rustling. Get a New jacket.
I was afraid it would be too bluflly after the first words, but it wasn't! ❤
I watched this for:
1. English accent
...
...
2. To know your opinions about these bikes 🙂
I tested NC. Great bike but too heavy. I think this Forza 750 would be better... but this chain (maintenance problem).
Not so sure I am enjoying this format. You've done the same format a couple of times now, it always goes the same way. "look at what we've got to show you", "what a great looking bike", BUT here's why we don't really like it. You did something similar with the v-strom recently. This one was worse for me because (and I tried to sit through the whole video, maybe I missed it? ) you didn't even start the bikes to let us hear how they sound. What about the NC750 issue with the rev limiter kicking in, is that still an issue? Sorry chaps, I'm subscribed and all that, so I like most of the content, but these last few haven't done it for me.
Point taken BOMOAOK back to our old ways then.. Ride safe
How do you compare the Honda X-ADV with the Forza 750?
Hi. I would love to see a comparison review of the 2021 Honda NC 750 X and the 2021 Suzuki V-Strom 650 you just demo'ed?
Have you ran out of petrol boys? Why no riding to show?
Due to work commitments we had six bikes to do in one day so it logistically wasn’t possible… Normal service will be resumed. Ride safe
We have been starved of riding videos due to COVID. Really interested in seeing them, particularly the Forza being out through their paces
I have the manual predecessor to the NC750X model you reported on chaps. Really enjoy riding it. Nice to see the differences with the new model. Good to see the Forza too. Keep up the good work. Ride safe.
I love my Forza 750, but only the NC750 is available in Canada (I'm moving back). I hope it's not gonna be too much of a let down.
I have the NC with an aftermarket seat but the seat slope on the 2017 NC is uncomfortable. Getting on a bit and I am very interested in the Forza because of the higher spec, more comfortable seat and the footboards to release pressure on your knees.
2021 has new seat - comfortable.
@@podunkman2709 I was too sore from some long rides on my own NC when I tested the 2021 model to notice! The Forza however is very comfortable.
Is it me, or does Marks jacket look 3x times to Big the Arms look massive....🤭🤭🤭😁😁
Good video, by the way as usual...👍👍👍
Dave it fits great, trust me! Ride safe
Well done Guys you've done it again, i went out Saturday and put a deposit on a Blue Honda NC750X..Ha ha ha
lovely bike, ride safe buddy
NC a bit faster and flexible for the town and Forza more comfortable for long trips with better brakes and suspension yes?I like them both and i cannot choose .To be honest i like more the look of the NC but i havent decide yet.
Wish you had brought X-ADV into the mix. Love the styling over Forza but there are handling differences as well
I want the forza 750 or the xadv when they hit the US
Great and enjoyable rewiews. Thanks 👍🏼👍🏼
The USB on the NC750x is an optional extra. I'm getting 75mpg out of mine (DCT) running in. Done 850 miles so far. Still waiting for an options pack (spot lights, high screen, rack & top box etc) there is no projected delivery date yet so feeling a bit short changed at the moment. The DCT is perfect. Just traded a 2016 Crosstourer DCT and the gearbox is light years better on the NC. I got a black one by the way.
Very good, I think these vids are better than some because you have 2 points of view which are discussed and questioned.
Also very informative as I am gonna go auto soon if they dont bring out a XL750 DCT.
2024 is gonna be a special year with lots of stuff goin on.
I loved your video of XADV but this one is sxxx, You record the forest up high instead of the bikes and your mic has a hickup, thumb down
Can't get forza in usa. Whats up with this honda?
The Forza looks better, but, I know that the NC feels better while you riding.
I think is a Comfort vs Handling decision
Very informative - thank you
Would have been nice to hear the motors.
It’s coming….
A good comparision, best wishes from istanbul
I absolutely loved the DCT NC750X I owned, ultimately it was unreliable and Honda struggled to fix it. Sadly I wouldn’t have another for that reason. Awesome bike though!!
You were very unlucky there DervMan. That parallel twin, is normally bombproof.
I’ve had two of them (DCT).
@@SBKPete I’m just jinx with Honda, the Civic we had was by far the most unreliable car we’ve had to date. 🤷🏻♂️
What went wrong? Asking as I am an NC750X DCT owner
@@stevebolton8471 turned out to be the electronic shifter motor. Honda had the gearbox apart, but it was the persistent tech who realised what the problem was. Apparently they’re about £400 new. I fully appreciate things break but what really scared me was they had no idea what was going on. Judging by the Africa Twin forums it’s not an uncommon issue. ☹️🔧
@@stevebolton8471 ua-cam.com/video/5dy5N4R2Ii0/v-deo.html
Here’s a video I took of one of the incidents.
Right so to be clear. The NC 750 is a Bike scooter Hybrid. And the Forza 750 Scooter bike Hybrid. 🤙
Forza 750 has upside-down forks while nc750x has forks down side hence better ride on Forza
nice video, though my right ear is lonely
I love motorcycle touring, would you buy a Forsa ?
Yes I would. Ride safe
I'd have the NC750x over that lardy scooter. how ever I'n considering the little bro.the Forza 350, to me a much better looking scooter.
I think Silverwing is more appropriate.
Nice parking…..right in front of the N O Parking sign….😂
Hahaha. We know. Did it on purpose 🤣
Great video
PS, dont Place yr helmet on the ground..............ANTS etc, experience speaks, Santander moving from the bike "park" (helmet on ground) to " you are about to board park" and ants start climbing out of helmet over face mmmm not good.. Yes Honda did F up with changing the horn and indicator position around a few years ago. Now get on and ride them bikes. Mo.
Mr Mo! Great to hear from you.
I used to leave my helmet on the mirror sometimes overnight, until one day I felt something twitch by my right ear one day shortly after riding away. When I stopped to investigate, a small lizard jumped out.
Make this with three wheels so any car license holder could buy one without have to jump through hoops to get a bike license and they will sell in droves.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video, but why on earth would a bike need rider modes with 56 hp ???. Apart from perhaps ABS, all the rest of the costly electronics is pointless !. Indicators always on, most dangerous idea ever on a bike in my opinion, because if the R/H bulb fails without you knowing, people think you are turning left ...
Sort your sound out guys
Not a good idea to get video review near a notice "dont parking" ahaha
Hahha 🤣
Who would of Fort it first the burgman now scooter lovers ride safe boys🤣
"Mark and Toby take them out and compare them!". You didn't even start them up.
We did take them out but ran out of time… I would have the scooter in a heartbeat. Ride safe.
That back wheel on Uncle Fester's scooter looks a bit silly
That's the Forza is £2.5K more expensive, is scandalous. The NC looks like an absolute bargain.
The cameraman is so bad, talking about the car, the car is the main character, but I can't see the whole car in the picture frame while the frame above is empty, it's annoying to watch
Get your audio wright. Horrible.
Baldy is so annoying