One advantage of step-through scooters (and Vespas in particular) revolves around safety, which was proven to me two nights ago, when, while riding to a restaurant to meet my wife to celebrate her Birthday, I was broadsided by a motorist hard enough to knock me unconscious: I don't remember the moment of impact, likely because I didn't see what hit me…the next thing I remember after turning the corner was being lifted onto a gurney and into an ambulance. Turns out the floorboard saved my foot and leg from getting crushed, something a motorcycle would *not* offer. My armored riding jacket and full-face helmet did the rest: Obviously, I have assorted aches/pain to deal with for the moment, but nothing was broken, and I was able to walk out of my local hospital's trauma unit later that night on my own two feet. Also rather obvious, since I'm not giving up riding, is that my next bike will also be a Vespa GTS, as Melody, my current GTS, is likely a write-off from the fairly heavy damage she sustained from that crash. I doubt any motorcycle would "take a bullet" for me the same way!
Sorry to hear your story. One can fit crash bars to a motorbike. I have a BMW boxer, and the pots and crash bars extend well beyond my leg. Saying that, I dropped the bike one when manoeuvring on my drive. It rested on the crash bar, and not a mark to the bike.
Glad you survived to tell us your tale. Get well soon and good on you for getting back on the horse when the time comes! I think small bikes and scooters are more fun. I have a Springer Harley and it's fun and it looks great but it does have heavy steering and a lot of weight. I rode a GTS a few years ago from one of my son's friends and I was pretty impressed and that was 15 plus years ago..
I read your comment last year and it's been on my mind all these months. Decades ago I was at the University of Texas at Austin and a student on his motorcycle and his girlfriend riding as passenger was broadsided by a car. The girlfriend lost her foot. At the time I thought how guilty the boyfriend must feel to have indirectly caused a lifetime disability to his girlfriend, the immense physical pain and mental distress of a young college girl losing her foot, and now years later as an adult with my own children heading to college, I think of the parents pain and guilt that they didn't protect their child from harm. I still enjoy riding my motorcycles and scooters and all three of my high school kids ride my Honda Monkey under my close supervision. Now that it's been a year since your collision, I'm curious if there are any remnants of residual injury. Vehicle accident injuries can sometimes take months or even years to resurface, sometimes reappearing as one ages and the body is no longer in peak physical condition. My hope is that you recovered fully.
@@donaldlee6760 Wow…that's the sort of story that tears at me. Regardless of who might've been at fault, the turmoil of the aftermath is still there. For me, the news is very good:other than one small scar near the right shoulder blade, I've suffered no residual effects from the crash. As I've told others, one factor likely was the that I literally didn't see what hit me, therefore I didn't physically "freeze up" the way I likely would otherwise have, and simply did the limp-rag-doll thing when i was knocked clear of the bike. (My armored jacket did the rest.) As careful as I generally always have been (i.e. not riding like a jackass), I'm just that much more cautious now…and more observant of how many motorists regularly throw caution to the wind, especially post-COVID. Thanks for the inquiry, Donald!
I'm 53. I started riding/racing dirt bikes around 7 years old. I've owned and ridden just about every make and model of bike made. I absolutely love my GTS 250. My friends laugh at my appreciation of this scoot until they ride it. Then they want one.
This debate reminds me of when I was a kid and dudes only wanted to drive cars with stick shifts. Then you get a little older and discover how nice an automatic transmission is (especially in a city with stop-and-go traffic). Now almost all cars are automatic. I realize motorcycles seem more manly, but once you're over trying to impress girls it's easier to appreciate the convenience of scooters. Motorcycles are a pain. Always having to gear up. Way harder to carry even the slightest cargo. I actually think most of them are less comfortable than Vespas by a lot. My last bike was a 2016 Ducati Scrambler Sixty2. It has a 399cc engine, got 50 mpg and it's top speed was about the same as the 2009 Vespa GTS 250 I just bought that gets closer to 70 mpg. Incredibly quiet, peaceful, flickable. I bought an affordable top case for the back rack of my Vespa and I can basically hold 4 bags of groceries on this thing no problem. At the same time, it's powerful enough that I can still take it into the mountains on a solo camping trip. I live near the Eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains, and I can go over a 9,000-ft mountain pass with no problem. I'm completely sold on these scooters. I also find them way easier to work on. Anybody can change a belt and rollers. You barely need any tools. I would never attempt to change my motorcycle chain and sprockets. I don't have the right tools to do most things on a motorcycle. I take the scooter to drive-thus to pick up dinner and place it in a bag on the front hook. Try doing that on a motorcycle.
@@venomdank965 That used to be the case in the USA too. Then we figured out driving automatics are pretty luxurious unless you are off-roading or need a stick for some practical reason.
I think it might even be to impress other guys.. When I was a kid and could only ride a 50cc many other boys at the same age just sneered at scooters. Well I sure wasn't the one who is going to change 1-4 or even 1-6 gears to reach a top speed of 45km/h 😂 So for that reason I chose a scooter. It was a Piaggio NRG Purejet. One of the first ones that had fuel injection. Loved that thing! Vespas do bring up the nice memories. While riding a scooter in the moped age it sure made it harder to learn to use the gears for a motorcycle license. But I managed. I owned a Yamaha 650 Dragstar (V-star) for a while. I also test rode a triumph and a vespa a couple of years back. I liked both! I could ride either one. Neither was ”better” than the other. Even when the Triumph had what a 900cc engine? The Vespa was a GTS 300.
And funny how some think of the scooters as a bike for girls? When just like Robot says a scooter is way harder to recover if it starts to get out of hand.
I have a 750 Kawasaki but also a 1991 250 Nighthawk. It weighs the same as a Vespa 300, goes just as fast and with a single carb and two cylinders sounds like an old Brit bike. It has bigger wheels than any scooter, handles like a feather and is stable on the interstates even when a truck comes by. Yes, a 300 Vespa is easier to handle than a Harley but pales in comparison to a 250/300cc bike. A Vespa gets to sixty in about ten seconds, a Z400 does it in less than five and gets equal gas mileage. Now I have been shifting since 1962 so it's like breathing to me. I don't have to think about it.
I can't believe I'm just getting my first scooter in my mid 40's. Never owned a two wheeler or driven one either, but I've been to different countries in Asia many times (China, Indonesia, Taiwan, and Thailand) in the last 30 years and a huge percentage of the population in those countries have scooters. With rising gas prices and getting only 20 mph in my vehicle, 80-100mph sounds good to me.
I've taken an MP3 500 on a thousand mile ride and found it to be comfortable and capable. I've ridden my Vespa 300 on I-5 for 120 miles and had no problem. I have both scooters and Motorcycles and love both.
Excellent overview, Robot. And, if you're like me, and don't have the luxury of being able to own multiple vehicles (I don't even own a car), purpose and geography figure pretty highly in choosing a ride. I've taken my GTS 300 for two-mile errand-runs, 100-mile-plus round-trips on the highway, and a few trips of 200 miles, plus a ton of inner-city riding. I can't think of another bike doing the job as well, nearly year-round. (Yes, even here in the Northeast; the only things that stop me are heavy snow and ice, which we're supposed to see more of this time 'round.)
From Russia with love Robot! Moved from a v big twin motorcycles to Vespa GTS this year after 20 years of using it. Found that a new state of my mind . Not least thanks to your channel:) 🇷🇺
I’ve had scooters and motorbikes for 40 years and this summary was about right, nicely done. Could have expanded on the like minded people bit. I belong to the largest scooter club and motorbike club in the land and on average they have very different people in them.
I’ve had the two. Something I find crazy is…whenever I have a motorcycle and I sell my scooter I then start missing the Vespa and if I get a Vespa I miss a real bike, so I think right now I’ll keep both so I can be happy, but please don’t tell my wife 🤣
Same here. When I have a scooter, I miss my motorcycles.. You can see this on my channel. Oh, ebikes are another great vehicle. No registration and no gas. Great for trips under 10 miles.
The analogy is wonderful. It's all about what you care about and how focused you are on specific things. If you really care about speed, you're gonna ride a supersport. If you like the looks and that's what really important to you, you're gonna go retro classic or a Harley if you romanticize the "danger" aspect without really going to dangerous modern bikes like sport/naked bikes. If you care about transportation and just need a tool to commute, you're gonna abide the helmet law, get a 3/4 helmet and hop on your scooter. And then, you have the middle ground bikes - usable machines for commuting that still have some passion in them, i.e your naked bikes, adventure/crossover bikes. Heck, even a Vespa has more die-hard fanboys than an SV650 or NC750X. It''s all a matter of who you are as a biker, and as a person.
All excellent points Robot. Agree, all forms of two wheels have their advantages and disadvantages. Finding the best balance is the key. Horses for courses.
I started getting my motorcycle license at 42 years old, my decision was for a used Vespa LX 150ie... today, 45yo still with the same Vespa, 1 accident (doored), but don't change for other motorcycle...
I have been riding for 47 years and for 46 of those I have had a full licence. I originally got into the scooter scene in the Uk as it was a life style choice, clubs, hideouts and fashion, yep basically a Mod. In latter life as well as cars I moved into big bikes. Never much liked sports bikes but I did like my Suzuki 850 GS. But guess what, I now ride a Vespa GTS 300 touring and I have used it for touring. It has all the power I want, comfort and carrying capability. I never liked riding in a suite of armour so, most days its a casual wind and rain proof jacket. I live near the sea so trips to the beach, cafe's or just shopping the GTS is much easier. I even get two fold down chairs on the front rack. I have ridden across Europe and in India many times. I have hired a Royal Enfield in India but soon found out on most roads there was no real advantage in having a bike. In fact there is nowhere to stash you beach gear or belongings.
I now ride a Burgman, but I've had lots of bikes over the years. Sportsbikes put you into that crouched position where you have to go fast just to be comfortable. Scooters encourage you to relax, having said that, at 71 I ride my burgie like I stole it😁😁.
All wise advice and beautifully presented. As an old dirt-bike rider and current classic Vespa user, I would stress a little bit stronger the stability factor which is way way lower on a scooter, especially a classic one, because of the small diameter wheels.
Great video my friend. I guess it comes down to what you’re familiar with, I’ve been riding Harley Davidson‘s for almost 30 years, I ride my 900 pound Street Glide around town, to the market and also take it on long trips, It’s my daily driver. God bless your brother.
I love riding almost anything with two wheels. Been riding since I was 6 years old starting with minibikes. I had never ridden a scooter until yesterday. Purchased my wife a bright Yellow Vespa Sprint 150 with the top case. I loved it. My wife's first time to learn to ride any motorized two wheeler. I find it's a great platform to teach an adult how to ride.
I have recently gotten into scooters and scooters are so much fun. I love both. If I could only have one it would be a scooter honestly just for the utility.
Just bought a Aprilia Sportcity cube 300 ,15 inch wheels ,Vespa gt300 engine. Always owned large capacity makes. I've a Cb1000r the new version with 3700 miles. Guess what I enjoy the most ! Think it's an age thing ,coming 53 riding bikes 40 odd years. In the town I live ,all the young ones drive audi or vw,funny when you flyby on a wee scoot that will corner better upto 60. As long as its two wheels ,ride on. Great vid bro.
Good balanced review Robot - I am an everyday motorcycle user (YamahaTDM900) but love the scoots. Lots of plus,s and minus,s as you say. That seat on the 300 looks really comfy. Thanks for posting sir
Just bought the Piaggio Medley 125s. Now on 430 miles. Very pleased with it. I am in the UK. Brighton on the SE coast. I don't think you have the Medley 125 in the USA. My other scooter is a Yamaha Cygnus 125cc. Bought new in 2004. Got 38K miles on the clock. Always done my own oil changes. Ashamed to say I have never done any other maintenance. Still goes like a new scooter. only problem I ever had was replacing the rear light bulb.
Is it a damnation or a blessing to love all of them? Motorcycles (offroad and road), scooters, cars, trucks, vans, bicycles, unicycles, skateboards etc etc. I can't afford to do drugs, damn! :D
Hey Robot purchased a BMW scoot and enjoy riding it more now than my BMW R nine t on my commute to work in London of a round trip of 70 miles ... funny how no one nods back when I am on my scoot 😂 👊
Some do, some don't. When I'm on my motorbikes I get the nod. When I'm on my scooter. Some will nod, some won't. Or even swear at me. Then I just swear back or turn around and wait for them at the next traffic light and kill switch them 🤣🤣
A scooter is the one to have on the surface streets. Not having to shift or think about what gear to be in is the way to go. Light, safer and more fun. The advantage of a smaller tire make it easier to balance and maneuver at a very slow speed.
you should also talk about Quality my first scooter was Chinese nock-off broke down on me 3 times cvt belt broke,engen froze. carb rubber diaphran craked, all left me stranded, but there's more on road problems but got home tires picked up leaks starter barley worked, battery wasn't wanting to kick it over kick start never worked rubber hoses cracked engine but still love to ride scooters especially at night when you see little display light up
I have a Harley Davidson Fat Boy and a Vespa gts 250. I love the Fat Boy but I don't like to ride it on short trips to the store. It's great on the interstate. On short trips, it's a wrestling match just to get it out of the garage. The Vespa is sooooooo easy. I can get moving much quicker. It's really convenient. Also, if I have the girlfriend with me the Harley is a way better choice than the Vespa. Especially if it's a long ride. Then there are times I feel the need for speed. That's when I roll out the Honda cbr1000. What I'm trying to say is, each ride has its speciality. One bike doesn't to it all for me.
I’ve been riding for 35 years, first on Vespas and shortly afterwards exclusively Lambrettas with a brief stint on an Aprilia RS250. Although I miss that motorbike, I get more riding fun on my Lambretta which is still running it’s 20 year old TS1 Annihilator engine. It’s been a daily rider, commuter and long distance tourer in Europe and now in California. I’m building another Lambretta with a similar engine and also a full race engine for flying mile racing and I’ve got no plans for another motorcycle nor a Vesapa, no offense meant, lol.
Thank you for this video. One thought re repairs you mentioned on scooters being kinda minimal (relative). Think if there were bad accidents (scooter or motorcycle) guessing they're probably not repaired due to cost?
I am the same, except in my case it’s a Vespa 250GT and a Triumph Speed Twin. The odd thing about the Vespa is how casually I treat riding it. On the motorcycle I am one of those all the fear, all the time guys but I ride the scoot wearing normal street clothes-even though city riding is far more dangerous than canyon carving.
I would love to see a comparison of a vespa 125 vs a mini motorcycle like a grom, z125 or benelli tnt 135 in heavy city traffic or short distance grocery runs or a longer fun ride with friends. The mini motorcycles have the same 12 in rims, wheelbase, height and weight......
Hi Robot , my Brother Carlton has a YAMAHA RX100 MOTORBIKE SINCE THE PAST 28 -30 years & ist is IN MINT CONDITION he is NOW 52 YEARS OLD HE LIVES IN MUMBAI . HE BOUGHT A HONDA 125 cc SCOOTER ROUGHLY 4 YEARS AGO . NOW HE USES THE SCOOTER 95% OF THE TIME. JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS INFO. I DO WATCH YOUR VIDEOS & FIND THEM VERY INFORMATIVE & GOOD 👍 REGARDS NIGEL.
Get a cheaper motorcycle and a scooter as well. Then, you'll figure out what do you pick up every morning from your garage. And then, if you really prefer only one of them, sell the other one.
There is a growning trend of atutomatic mototorcycles and maxi scooters that have motorcycle features. Specifically, Honda motorcycles with DCT automatic transmission and electric motorcycles like Zero. Maxi Scooters with parallel twin engines mounted in the chassis gives a motorcycle ride, like the Yamaha Tmax 530, Burgman 650, BMW C650, Kymco AK550, and the new Forza 750
Motorcycles are the only thing I have ever ridden. After many broken bones and joint replacement I am getting old. I think a Vespa scooter is on the horizon.
Richard, that is exactly why I bought a Vespa. I am 71 and sometimes I just want easy. I'm not quite ready to sell my bikes just yet. Maybe in another ten years or so. We shall see.
I can`t get used to motorcycle`s gearbox, despite I drove manual Vespa PX. I mostly agree with what Robot saying, but I think for a non-experienced driver scooter is easier to ride.
Oh geeze, scooters are so easy and user friendly. They can spoil a person. I have cars and bikes in my garage so everything is strategically located to be able to get everything in there. The Vespa is just easier to get it out and get moving and to put it back.
I love scooters, and want to get one like the Liberty or ADV for San Diego commuting on non-highway roads, but the one major problem for scooters, in my eyes, is the comfort versus motorcycles. I see people hunched over on scooters with all the weight going on their ass which, in my mind, would bring all the vibrations to the back. A motorcycle seems to better distribute the weight between the feet, legs, arms and ass, leading to something more comfortable to ride. If there were a motorcycle with a CVT (though manual transmission is not a deal breaker for me) that brought the sitting ergonomics of a motorcycle, with the practicality of a scooter (with storage space), I’d be all over it (in theory). I’m debating between a Grom and a Liberty as my main and only local commuting and riding around bike. My heart goes to Grom for its lightness/nimbleness and ergonomics, but my brain goes to the Scooter (ADV or Liberty) due ti built in storage and ability to comfortably carry a passenger. I’d love to see a video comparing a Grom or Monkey compared to the Liberty.
i have owned them all through the years..sportbike/harley/tourer.. raced off road moto-x grasstrack, still do trials .. i wouldnt have had a scooter when i was younger, but i never looked down my nose at them ..anything 2 wheels and engine is good to me.. but.. now aged 57... ive had 400 piaggio, 200 burgman, and now have a forza 300 because it is very comfy for passenger who i always take on rides... i also have a nc700x honda... but.. i prefer the scooter it puts a smile on my face.. i dont go high speed anymore.. just get the tool for the job-mood you are in ..
The small 50cc scoots/mopeds are great for small towns of say 3,000 people more or less. As long as there are no major hills you need to get up on a daily basis, the small displacement scoot is fine. If you work a few miles from where you live, it's perfect. You can zip home on a scoot if you get, say, 30 minutes for lunch break. Sure ,you could walk, but it will take you 15+ minutes each way, and so no lunch for you. Yes, you could easily ride a bicycle as well. But if the scoot has some under seat storage or a rack to mount a luggage unit, or even a plastic tote, you can make it more functional for small grocery runs, weekend yard sale tours, etc. If however, you need to get up to 40+ mph regularly, forget the 50cc models. You will need to go up to 125cc or higher. The Honda Helix is a 250cc and is like riding a comfortable chair with wheels on the highway. You can find used models all over the United States. The older Yamaha Tmax is an awesome higher displacement scoot that will make you think you're riding a motorcycle. Think about the primary use you want it for and choose appropriately. Some of the scoots are made in Taiwan, which generally have a better quality level of manufacturing than the Chinese made ones. If down the road you want to sell it, you may prefer going with a Honda or Yamaha, Vespa simply for easier resale.
Hey Robot, Enjoyed this video & very informative. I’m a Vespisti, but I’ve added a maxi scooter to my collection (Yamaha T Max) Would you say that a maxi scooter bridges the gap between scooter & bike? Just to add - Love your videos👍👍👍
Hey Robot, I’m interested in buying a 2021 Buddy 50 international with a $2199 MSRP price. Do you know what the average price I should expect to pay for prep and freight? Thanks in advance.
Vespas and Lambrettas carry the Mods, and they are nice for around town ocean road touring, but motorcycles are better for freeways and bigger road ways
May be it sounds absurd, but I am 1.95m tall with quite long legs and I find my Vespa 300cc way more comfortable than my 1250cc BMW! They say that I look funny on my Vespa, but I have no issues with it, while on the BMW all my body hurts after just one hour of riding. I have wrist pains, back pains, numb hands and my butt is also in pain. No such issues with my Vespa
I have both also.....have had all type of motorcycles....have as much fun on my kymco scooter as I do on my Yamaha virago.......long as your having fun who cares what's what
Hello 🤖 Hope you are well....I am the first person to add a comment👍. I enjoy your videos and finding out good stuff about Vespa's. Fantastic bike! I ride a Royal Enfield Bullet 500 and love that bike. Keep well. Bye for now Stuart 🙂🇬🇧
So I'm interested in adding a scooter. Because I dislike all the regular maintenance I have to do on my ninja300. Sometimes I want to just ride. Would a scooter require a lot less maintenance comparing it to same size engines. Is a scooters life and maintenance closer to a cars?
I own a burgman and a xmax, I’ve owned many motorcycles over the years and after owning scooters particularly maxi scooters they are far superior to any motorcycle, weather protection, storage, handle better with a passenger, also if you slide off a scooter you can tuck your legs in and keep them attached to your body instead of having your leg crushed between the engine and the road,
On the safety in a skid issue, I would have thought a scooter would be better. The weight is less and is carried low. Whereas with a motorcycle such as the Thruxton 900 he was demonstrating the weight is more and it is more top heavy. Leading to a greater tendency to fall over.
Back in the 1950s, Scooters were regularly used on cross country off road trailing. The machines today are probably still just as capable, but we the riders, don't have the abilities of our Grandparents!
Ok newbie here. In Thailand I have a little Honda 125 scooter (motorbike) and I want to get a ninja 650 how’s it different. When I hit like 70 kmh I feel so unstable is a 650 more stable and comfortable?
@@VespaMotorsport of course anything with two wheels is fun and a scooter is Definitely more practical for things like getting groceries. With my current bike, a rebel250, I'm basically limited to whatever I can fit in a backpack.
I purchase my 07 Piaggio mp3 250IE because something different & automation! I drive motorcycle but never got use to clutch & shift gears and I own DF RTX 50cc scooter had one gear & no clutch but have trouble of it because knee brace I wear! I sell it to motorcycle shop and they told me test out Vespa & Piaggio mp3 see witch one works for me!
The largest Vespa available is the GTS 300 line. Any of the GTS/GTV would be worth looking into. Other than that, you could look at some Piaggio scooters such as the BV350
How does a large wheel scooter fit in with safety and insurance and safety? It's kind of a mix between a motorcycle and a scooter. All the advantages of a scooter with the advantages of larger wheels of a motorcycle?
I actually test road a Stella scooter at this same shop 10 plus years ago. It was a four-stroke manual shift PX knock off. It was fun but I was over controlling it at first because of my motorcycle experience. I'm going to be looking for something in the Philippines very soon. It makes the most sense to get a Honda Cub type of motorcycle like the wave because they're so affordable and has the same utilitarian benefits that a scooter has. I saw Vespa's at a dealership there a few years back and they were pretty expensive in the Philippines
Scooters are not designed for longer riding distances, they're " in town", no freeway riding, small no shifting cycles also. 500cc and larger cycles are best for the freeways and open road, long distance riding. If our host ROBOT were riding from San Diego to Newport Beach, Ca, he'd be riding a motorcycle, not a Vespa.
I've done long trips on both big motorcycles and maxi-scooters, and would say a big maxi-scooter is better for big trips. Better luggage capacity, better wind and weather protection, better comfort.
One advantage of step-through scooters (and Vespas in particular) revolves around safety, which was proven to me two nights ago, when, while riding to a restaurant to meet my wife to celebrate her Birthday, I was broadsided by a motorist hard enough to knock me unconscious: I don't remember the moment of impact, likely because I didn't see what hit me…the next thing I remember after turning the corner was being lifted onto a gurney and into an ambulance. Turns out the floorboard saved my foot and leg from getting crushed, something a motorcycle would *not* offer. My armored riding jacket and full-face helmet did the rest: Obviously, I have assorted aches/pain to deal with for the moment, but nothing was broken, and I was able to walk out of my local hospital's trauma unit later that night on my own two feet. Also rather obvious, since I'm not giving up riding, is that my next bike will also be a Vespa GTS, as Melody, my current GTS, is likely a write-off from the fairly heavy damage she sustained from that crash. I doubt any motorcycle would "take a bullet" for me the same way!
I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon
Sorry to hear your story. One can fit crash bars to a motorbike. I have a BMW boxer, and the pots and crash bars extend well beyond my leg. Saying that, I dropped the bike one when manoeuvring on my drive. It rested on the crash bar, and not a mark to the bike.
Glad you survived to tell us your tale. Get well soon and good on you for getting back on the horse when the time comes! I think small bikes and scooters are more fun. I have a Springer Harley and it's fun and it looks great but it does have heavy steering and a lot of weight. I rode a GTS a few years ago from one of my son's friends and I was pretty impressed and that was 15 plus years ago..
I read your comment last year and it's been on my mind all these months. Decades ago I was at the University of Texas at Austin and a student on his motorcycle and his girlfriend riding as passenger was broadsided by a car. The girlfriend lost her foot. At the time I thought how guilty the boyfriend must feel to have indirectly caused a lifetime disability to his girlfriend, the immense physical pain and mental distress of a young college girl losing her foot, and now years later as an adult with my own children heading to college, I think of the parents pain and guilt that they didn't protect their child from harm. I still enjoy riding my motorcycles and scooters and all three of my high school kids ride my Honda Monkey under my close supervision. Now that it's been a year since your collision, I'm curious if there are any remnants of residual injury. Vehicle accident injuries can sometimes take months or even years to resurface, sometimes reappearing as one ages and the body is no longer in peak physical condition. My hope is that you recovered fully.
@@donaldlee6760 Wow…that's the sort of story that tears at me. Regardless of who might've been at fault, the turmoil of the aftermath is still there.
For me, the news is very good:other than one small scar near the right shoulder blade, I've suffered no residual effects from the crash. As I've told others, one factor likely was the that I literally didn't see what hit me, therefore I didn't physically "freeze up" the way I likely would otherwise have, and simply did the limp-rag-doll thing when i was knocked clear of the bike. (My armored jacket did the rest.) As careful as I generally always have been (i.e. not riding like a jackass), I'm just that much more cautious now…and more observant of how many motorists regularly throw caution to the wind, especially post-COVID. Thanks for the inquiry, Donald!
I'm 53. I started riding/racing dirt bikes around 7 years old. I've owned and ridden just about every make and model of bike made. I absolutely love my GTS 250. My friends laugh at my appreciation of this scoot until they ride it. Then they want one.
Now that's what we're talkin about! 😎
Most people with a real depth of experience seem to agree with you.
Same here. I’m 53 and I just bought a Vespa 300. I absolutely love it. It does everything I need and it’s fun to joyride around town. I’m hooked.
I am 60 and have a beta 300rr dirt bike and a harley road king classic and a krx1000 side by side. I want a vespa 300 hpe orange/black 2023
This debate reminds me of when I was a kid and dudes only wanted to drive cars with stick shifts. Then you get a little older and discover how nice an automatic transmission is (especially in a city with stop-and-go traffic). Now almost all cars are automatic. I realize motorcycles seem more manly, but once you're over trying to impress girls it's easier to appreciate the convenience of scooters. Motorcycles are a pain. Always having to gear up. Way harder to carry even the slightest cargo. I actually think most of them are less comfortable than Vespas by a lot. My last bike was a 2016 Ducati Scrambler Sixty2. It has a 399cc engine, got 50 mpg and it's top speed was about the same as the 2009 Vespa GTS 250 I just bought that gets closer to 70 mpg. Incredibly quiet, peaceful, flickable. I bought an affordable top case for the back rack of my Vespa and I can basically hold 4 bags of groceries on this thing no problem. At the same time, it's powerful enough that I can still take it into the mountains on a solo camping trip. I live near the Eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains, and I can go over a 9,000-ft mountain pass with no problem. I'm completely sold on these scooters. I also find them way easier to work on. Anybody can change a belt and rollers. You barely need any tools. I would never attempt to change my motorcycle chain and sprockets. I don't have the right tools to do most things on a motorcycle. I take the scooter to drive-thus to pick up dinner and place it in a bag on the front hook. Try doing that on a motorcycle.
thats only in the USA, in Europe and Japan and 3rd world countries they perfer stick shift.
@@venomdank965 That used to be the case in the USA too. Then we figured out driving automatics are pretty luxurious unless you are off-roading or need a stick for some practical reason.
I think it might even be to impress other guys.. When I was a kid and could only ride a 50cc many other boys at the same age just sneered at scooters. Well I sure wasn't the one who is going to change 1-4 or even 1-6 gears to reach a top speed of 45km/h 😂 So for that reason I chose a scooter. It was a Piaggio NRG Purejet. One of the first ones that had fuel injection. Loved that thing! Vespas do bring up the nice memories.
While riding a scooter in the moped age it sure made it harder to learn to use the gears for a motorcycle license. But I managed. I owned a Yamaha 650 Dragstar (V-star) for a while. I also test rode a triumph and a vespa a couple of years back. I liked both! I could ride either one. Neither was ”better” than the other. Even when the Triumph had what a 900cc engine? The Vespa was a GTS 300.
And funny how some think of the scooters as a bike for girls? When just like Robot says a scooter is way harder to recover if it starts to get out of hand.
I have a 750 Kawasaki but also a 1991 250 Nighthawk. It weighs the same as a Vespa 300, goes just as fast and with a single carb and two cylinders sounds like an old Brit bike. It has bigger wheels than any scooter, handles like a feather and is stable on the interstates even when a truck comes by. Yes, a 300 Vespa is easier to handle than a Harley but pales in comparison to a 250/300cc bike. A Vespa gets to sixty in about ten seconds, a Z400 does it in less than five and gets equal gas mileage. Now I have been shifting since 1962 so it's like breathing to me. I don't have to think about it.
Great analogy! All two wheelers are tools. Thanks Robot!
Right on!
I can't believe I'm just getting my first scooter in my mid 40's. Never owned a two wheeler or driven one either, but I've been to different countries in Asia many times (China, Indonesia, Taiwan, and Thailand) in the last 30 years and a huge percentage of the population in those countries have scooters. With rising gas prices and getting only 20 mph in my vehicle, 80-100mph sounds good to me.
I've taken an MP3 500 on a thousand mile ride and found it to be comfortable and capable. I've ridden my Vespa 300 on I-5 for 120 miles and had no problem. I have both scooters and Motorcycles and love both.
Very nice!
Steve, you sound like me! Variety is the spice of life!
Me too, scooter for local area riding, My 1832cc Honda Goldwing for long-distance riding. Like you Steve, I love them both!
I bought my Vespa Si from 1988 this monday and im in love with it
I love my GTS 300 and being all yellow, I feel everyone sees me!
Excellent overview, Robot. And, if you're like me, and don't have the luxury of being able to own multiple vehicles (I don't even own a car), purpose and geography figure pretty highly in choosing a ride. I've taken my GTS 300 for two-mile errand-runs, 100-mile-plus round-trips on the highway, and a few trips of 200 miles, plus a ton of inner-city riding. I can't think of another bike doing the job as well, nearly year-round. (Yes, even here in the Northeast; the only things that stop me are heavy snow and ice, which we're supposed to see more of this time 'round.)
Great to hear, thanks for sharing!
From Russia with love Robot! Moved from a v big twin motorcycles to Vespa GTS this year after 20 years of using it. Found that a new state of my mind . Not least thanks to your channel:) 🇷🇺
Thanks for sharing!
I’ve had scooters and motorbikes for 40 years and this summary was about right, nicely done. Could have expanded on the like minded people bit. I belong to the largest scooter club and motorbike club in the land and on average they have very different people in them.
I’ve had the two. Something I find crazy is…whenever I have a motorcycle and I sell my scooter I then start missing the Vespa and if I get a Vespa I miss a real bike, so I think right now I’ll keep both so I can be happy, but please don’t tell my wife 🤣
Same here. When I have a scooter, I miss my motorcycles.. You can see this on my channel. Oh, ebikes are another great vehicle. No registration and no gas. Great for trips under 10 miles.
Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. Extremely informative for a first time buyer
The analogy is wonderful. It's all about what you care about and how focused you are on specific things. If you really care about speed, you're gonna ride a supersport. If you like the looks and that's what really important to you, you're gonna go retro classic or a Harley if you romanticize the "danger" aspect without really going to dangerous modern bikes like sport/naked bikes. If you care about transportation and just need a tool to commute, you're gonna abide the helmet law, get a 3/4 helmet and hop on your scooter. And then, you have the middle ground bikes - usable machines for commuting that still have some passion in them, i.e your naked bikes, adventure/crossover bikes. Heck, even a Vespa has more die-hard fanboys than an SV650 or NC750X.
It''s all a matter of who you are as a biker, and as a person.
I have a PX200e and a Honda Fire Blade. This sums me up well - a man of absolute extremes.
Excellent choices, best of both worlds.
All excellent points Robot. Agree, all forms of two wheels have their advantages and disadvantages. Finding the best balance is the key. Horses for courses.
Greetings from Spain! We enjoy your videos a lot. Thanks!
Glad you like them!
Man, I really enjoy your videos. Super informative. Keep up the good work! 👍🏽
Glad you like them!
I started getting my motorcycle license at 42 years old, my decision was for a used Vespa LX 150ie... today, 45yo still with the same Vespa, 1 accident (doored), but don't change for other motorcycle...
What is “doored”?
@@DonaldMohrMusic It is when someone suddenly opened the door's vehicle and hit the bike or motorcycle.
@@MarceloGebrael Oof.
I kinda want one of those Vespa 300s
Thanks a lot man..really helpful, i m just new in this moto world, here in Indonesia there are a Lot..still finding my way to go...👏
Mr, thank you for the info. Great video
I have been riding for 47 years and for 46 of those I have had a full licence. I originally got into the scooter scene in the Uk as it was a life style choice, clubs, hideouts and fashion, yep basically a Mod. In latter life as well as cars I moved into big bikes. Never much liked sports bikes but I did like my Suzuki 850 GS. But guess what, I now ride a Vespa GTS 300 touring and I have used it for touring. It has all the power I want, comfort and carrying capability. I never liked riding in a suite of armour so, most days its a casual wind and rain proof jacket. I live near the sea so trips to the beach, cafe's or just shopping the GTS is much easier. I even get two fold down chairs on the front rack. I have ridden across Europe and in India many times. I have hired a Royal Enfield in India but soon found out on most roads there was no real advantage in having a bike. In fact there is nowhere to stash you beach gear or belongings.
Excellent, thanks for sharing!
Thank you ! These videos are very informative.
Glad you like them!
I just gave up my R1 for a primavera, it’s crazy how chill I feel on a Vespa in comparison 😅
I now ride a Burgman, but I've had lots of bikes over the years. Sportsbikes put you into that crouched position where you have to go fast just to be comfortable. Scooters encourage you to relax, having said that, at 71 I ride my burgie like I stole it😁😁.
All wise advice and beautifully presented. As an old dirt-bike rider and current classic Vespa user, I would stress a little bit stronger the stability factor which is way way lower on a scooter, especially a classic one, because of the small diameter wheels.
Thanks for sharing!
Good video Robot , it will help new riders to make the right choice , all the very Best
Hope so
Great video my friend. I guess it comes down to what you’re familiar with, I’ve been riding Harley Davidson‘s for almost 30 years, I ride my 900 pound Street Glide around town, to the market and also take it on long trips, It’s my daily driver. God bless your brother.
Well said!
CVT stands for Continuously Variable Transmission, not Constant Velocity Transmission...
That’s true, but cut the guy some slack. He knows his scooters inside out. We all trip over our tongues now and then.
I love riding almost anything with two wheels. Been riding since I was 6 years old starting with minibikes. I had never ridden a scooter until yesterday. Purchased my wife a bright Yellow Vespa Sprint 150 with the top case. I loved it. My wife's first time to learn to ride any motorized two wheeler. I find it's a great platform to teach an adult how to ride.
I have recently gotten into scooters and scooters are so much fun. I love both. If I could only have one it would be a scooter honestly just for the utility.
Just bought a Aprilia Sportcity cube 300 ,15 inch wheels ,Vespa gt300 engine.
Always owned large capacity makes.
I've a Cb1000r the new version with 3700 miles.
Guess what I enjoy the most !
Think it's an age thing ,coming 53 riding bikes 40 odd years.
In the town I live ,all the young ones drive audi or vw,funny when you flyby on a wee scoot that will corner better upto 60.
As long as its two wheels ,ride on.
Great vid bro.
Good balanced review Robot - I am an everyday motorcycle user (YamahaTDM900) but love the scoots. Lots of plus,s and minus,s as you say. That seat on the 300 looks really comfy. Thanks for posting sir
Well said!
Just bought the Piaggio Medley 125s. Now on 430 miles. Very pleased with it. I am in the UK. Brighton on the SE coast. I don't think you have the Medley 125 in the USA. My other scooter is a Yamaha Cygnus 125cc. Bought new in 2004. Got 38K miles on the clock. Always done my own oil changes. Ashamed to say I have never done any other maintenance. Still goes like a new scooter. only problem I ever had was replacing the rear light bulb.
Repairs and maintenance are not a dark art! Just buy a few tools and a manual, easy!
When I finish up on updating my PIAGGIO MP3 250IE I going on long trips stop over Vespa Motorsport show you what I did on it! Mr. Robot
Is it a damnation or a blessing to love all of them? Motorcycles (offroad and road), scooters, cars, trucks, vans, bicycles, unicycles, skateboards etc etc. I can't afford to do drugs, damn! :D
Gotta love 'em all! ✌️
It sounds like your drug is bikes and cars!
@@peter7624 I guess so 🙃
Very informative! Thank you 😎
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love scooters but have yearnings to one day own a Harley D before hanging up my bike gloves and helmet. Great vid.👍
Would you take a scooter off-road? Well I would! - that's how I know we would be friends hahaha
Hey Robot purchased a BMW scoot and enjoy riding it more now than my BMW R nine t on my commute to work in London of a round trip of 70 miles ... funny how no one nods back when I am on my scoot 😂 👊
Some do, some don't. When I'm on my motorbikes I get the nod. When I'm on my scooter. Some will nod, some won't. Or even swear at me. Then I just swear back or turn around and wait for them at the next traffic light and kill switch them 🤣🤣
A scooter is the one to have on the surface streets. Not having to shift or think about what gear to be in is the way to go. Light, safer and more fun. The advantage of a smaller tire make it easier to balance and maneuver at a very slow speed.
Great video Robot!! 😊
Thanks for the visit
you should also talk about Quality my first scooter was Chinese nock-off broke down on me 3 times cvt belt broke,engen froze. carb rubber diaphran craked, all left me stranded, but there's more on road problems but got home tires picked up leaks starter barley worked, battery wasn't wanting to kick it over kick start never worked rubber hoses cracked engine but still love to ride scooters especially at night when you see little display light up
I have a Harley Davidson Fat Boy and a Vespa gts 250. I love the Fat Boy but I don't like to ride it on short trips to the store. It's great on the interstate. On short trips, it's a wrestling match just to get it out of the garage. The Vespa is sooooooo easy. I can get moving much quicker. It's really convenient. Also, if I have the girlfriend with me the Harley is a way better choice than the Vespa. Especially if it's a long ride. Then there are times I feel the need for speed. That's when I roll out the Honda cbr1000. What I'm trying to say is, each ride has its speciality. One bike doesn't to it all for me.
Very well said, we agree 💯
Piaggio bv400 does it all
I have a vfr800 and buddy 125cc ad well
I’ve been riding for 35 years, first on Vespas and shortly afterwards exclusively Lambrettas with a brief stint on an Aprilia RS250. Although I miss that motorbike, I get more riding fun on my Lambretta which is still running it’s 20 year old TS1 Annihilator engine. It’s been a daily rider, commuter and long distance tourer in Europe and now in California. I’m building another Lambretta with a similar engine and also a full race engine for flying mile racing and I’ve got no plans for another motorcycle nor a Vesapa, no offense meant, lol.
Thank you for this video. One thought re repairs you mentioned on scooters being kinda minimal (relative). Think if there were bad accidents (scooter or motorcycle) guessing they're probably not repaired due to cost?
I have a 300 GTS and a Yam MT07 and love them both, depends on my mood and if I’m going shopping as the Vespa has a top box and the shopping bag ring.
Well said!
I am the same, except in my case it’s a Vespa 250GT and a Triumph Speed Twin. The odd thing about the Vespa is how casually I treat riding it. On the motorcycle I am one of those all the fear, all the time guys but I ride the scoot wearing normal street clothes-even though city riding is far more dangerous than canyon carving.
I would love to see a comparison of a vespa 125 vs a mini motorcycle like a grom, z125 or benelli tnt 135 in heavy city traffic or short distance grocery runs or a longer fun ride with friends. The mini motorcycles have the same 12 in rims, wheelbase, height and weight......
Thanks for the information.
Any time!
very informative. thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I want a scooter because I think it’s easier to park than my car when I just want to go out and get food...
I have car and a scoot and hardly ever use the car for just that reason!
I own both, and love them both! :o)
Nice Video. I have a ? with the LX 50 4t is it possible to convert the lights to key on instead of stator on.
Hi Robot , my Brother Carlton has a YAMAHA RX100 MOTORBIKE SINCE THE PAST 28 -30 years & ist is IN MINT CONDITION he is NOW 52 YEARS OLD HE LIVES IN MUMBAI . HE BOUGHT A HONDA 125 cc SCOOTER ROUGHLY 4 YEARS AGO . NOW HE USES THE SCOOTER 95% OF THE TIME.
JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS INFO. I DO WATCH YOUR VIDEOS & FIND THEM VERY INFORMATIVE & GOOD 👍
REGARDS
NIGEL.
Thanks for doing this one. This is exactly where I am at now. Motorcycle or scooter? I am returning to riding after 40 years.
Awesome, Have fun!
Get a cheaper motorcycle and a scooter as well. Then, you'll figure out what do you pick up every morning from your garage. And then, if you really prefer only one of them, sell the other one.
There is a growning trend of atutomatic mototorcycles and maxi scooters that have motorcycle features. Specifically, Honda motorcycles with DCT automatic transmission and electric motorcycles like Zero. Maxi Scooters with parallel twin engines mounted in the chassis gives a motorcycle ride, like the Yamaha Tmax 530, Burgman 650, BMW C650, Kymco AK550, and the new Forza 750
Motorcycles are the only thing I have ever ridden. After many broken bones and joint replacement I am getting old. I think a Vespa scooter is on the horizon.
Right on!
Richard, that is exactly why I bought a Vespa. I am 71 and sometimes I just want easy. I'm not quite ready to sell my bikes just yet. Maybe in another ten years or so. We shall see.
I had to trade in my CBF600 for a Suzuki Burgman after a meniscus tear (Knee) so much more comfortable.
I can`t get used to motorcycle`s gearbox, despite I drove manual Vespa PX. I mostly agree with what Robot saying, but I think for a non-experienced driver scooter is easier to ride.
Oh geeze, scooters are so easy and user friendly. They can spoil a person. I have cars and bikes in my garage so everything is strategically located to be able to get everything in there. The Vespa is just easier to get it out and get moving and to put it back.
I love scooters, and want to get one like the Liberty or ADV for San Diego commuting on non-highway roads, but the one major problem for scooters, in my eyes, is the comfort versus motorcycles. I see people hunched over on scooters with all the weight going on their ass which, in my mind, would bring all the vibrations to the back. A motorcycle seems to better distribute the weight between the feet, legs, arms and ass, leading to something more comfortable to ride. If there were a motorcycle with a CVT (though manual transmission is not a deal breaker for me) that brought the sitting ergonomics of a motorcycle, with the practicality of a scooter (with storage space), I’d be all over it (in theory). I’m debating between a Grom and a Liberty as my main and only local commuting and riding around bike. My heart goes to Grom for its lightness/nimbleness and ergonomics, but my brain goes to the Scooter (ADV or Liberty) due ti built in storage and ability to comfortably carry a passenger. I’d love to see a video comparing a Grom or Monkey compared to the Liberty.
i have owned them all through the years..sportbike/harley/tourer.. raced off road moto-x grasstrack, still do trials .. i wouldnt have had a scooter when i was younger, but i never looked down my nose at them ..anything 2 wheels and engine is good to me.. but.. now aged 57... ive had 400 piaggio, 200 burgman, and now have a forza 300 because it is very comfy for passenger who i always take on rides... i also have a nc700x honda... but.. i prefer the scooter it puts a smile on my face.. i dont go high speed anymore.. just get the tool for the job-mood you are in ..
Hey, very nice video man! I have a question tho. I usually drive 20km for work, what would you recommend to buy? I really dont know. Thx
I’d say it depends on what sort of commute mate. Is it open road or urban driving? Do you travel with work gear and bags etc?
The small 50cc scoots/mopeds are great for small towns of say 3,000 people more or less. As long as there are no major hills you need to get up on a daily basis, the small displacement scoot is fine. If you work a few miles from where you live, it's perfect. You can zip home on a scoot if you get, say, 30 minutes for lunch break. Sure ,you could walk, but it will take you 15+ minutes each way, and so no lunch for you. Yes, you could easily ride a bicycle as well. But if the scoot has some under seat storage or a rack to mount a luggage unit, or even a plastic tote, you can make it more functional for small grocery runs, weekend yard sale tours, etc. If however, you need to get up to 40+ mph regularly, forget the 50cc models. You will need to go up to 125cc or higher. The Honda Helix is a 250cc and is like riding a comfortable chair with wheels on the highway. You can find used models all over the United States. The older Yamaha Tmax is an awesome higher displacement scoot that will make you think you're riding a motorcycle. Think about the primary use you want it for and choose appropriately. Some of the scoots are made in Taiwan, which generally have a better quality level of manufacturing than the Chinese made ones. If down the road you want to sell it, you may prefer going with a Honda or Yamaha, Vespa simply for easier resale.
Hey Robot,
Enjoyed this video & very informative.
I’m a Vespisti, but I’ve added a maxi scooter to my collection (Yamaha T Max)
Would you say that a maxi scooter bridges the gap between scooter & bike?
Just to add - Love your videos👍👍👍
The TMax is a better motorcycle than many motorcycles, as I'm sure you already know.
Mid 30’s and I got myself an ET4 project I won’t be getting rid of my bandit or gsxr but hopefully commuting will be a bit cheaper.
Hey Robot, I’m interested in buying a 2021 Buddy 50 international with a $2199 MSRP price.
Do you know what the average price I should expect to pay for prep and freight?
Thanks in advance.
Thank you:)
Can you tell me the year and color of the Vespa? I love it!!!!! I assume you are not selling it ????
I totally recommend a Suzuki Executive 650
Vespas and Lambrettas carry the Mods, and they are nice for around town ocean road touring, but motorcycles are better for freeways and bigger road ways
hi Robot, will you give some differences between vespa & piaggio? thanks.
May be it sounds absurd, but I am 1.95m tall with quite long legs and I find my Vespa 300cc way more comfortable than my 1250cc BMW! They say that I look funny on my Vespa, but I have no issues with it, while on the BMW all my body hurts after just one hour of riding. I have wrist pains, back pains, numb hands and my butt is also in pain. No such issues with my Vespa
I have both also.....have had all type of motorcycles....have as much fun on my kymco scooter as I do on my Yamaha virago.......long as your having fun who cares what's what
Right on!
Where can I purchase after market accessories for the 2014 Kymco like 200i?
Hello 🤖
Hope you are well....I am the first person to add a comment👍. I enjoy your videos and finding out good stuff about Vespa's. Fantastic bike! I ride a Royal Enfield Bullet 500 and love that bike.
Keep well. Bye for now Stuart 🙂🇬🇧
Awesome! Thank you!
Get a motorcycle first then get a 150cc scooter.
5:17 continuously variable transmission*
Constant velocity is for carburettors
So I'm interested in adding a scooter. Because I dislike all the regular maintenance I have to do on my ninja300. Sometimes I want to just ride. Would a scooter require a lot less maintenance comparing it to same size engines. Is a scooters life and maintenance closer to a cars?
Thank you
Ich mag deine Videos. Leider versteh ich nicht alles. Schade.
Tire or wheel? Which is it? ✌
Which is more likely to be stolen?
I would think automatic transmissions are more appealing to crooks.
Doesn't matter. If a thief wants a bike. They will get that bike. Not even alarms stop them
@@JDMz I cover mine, with a big, heavy chain either end. So far no problems.
I own a burgman and a xmax, I’ve owned many motorcycles over the years and after owning scooters particularly maxi scooters they are far superior to any motorcycle, weather protection, storage, handle better with a passenger, also if you slide off a scooter you can tuck your legs in and keep them attached to your body instead of having your leg crushed between the engine and the road,
On the safety in a skid issue, I would have thought a scooter would be better. The weight is less and is carried low. Whereas with a motorcycle such as the Thruxton 900 he was demonstrating the weight is more and it is more top heavy. Leading to a greater tendency to fall over.
Back in the 1950s, Scooters were regularly used on cross country off road trailing. The machines today are probably still just as capable, but we the riders, don't have the abilities of our Grandparents!
Ok newbie here. In Thailand I have a little Honda 125 scooter (motorbike) and I want to get a ninja 650 how’s it different. When I hit like 70 kmh I feel so unstable is a 650 more stable and comfortable?
You will come to realize that when you do your test on a bigger cc bike.
I love vespa! Fun Fun Fun ride
I always thought CVT stood for Continuously Variable Transmission...
I learned how to ride a motorcycle just by riding a bicycle lol.
I've owned many scooters and mopeds but overall, I prefer motorcycles.. mostly for the manual gearbox.
Fair enough!
@@VespaMotorsport of course anything with two wheels is fun and a scooter is Definitely more practical for things like getting groceries. With my current bike, a rebel250, I'm basically limited to whatever I can fit in a backpack.
I purchase my 07 Piaggio mp3 250IE because something different & automation! I drive motorcycle but never got use to clutch & shift gears and I own DF RTX 50cc scooter had one gear & no clutch but have trouble of it because knee brace I wear! I sell it to motorcycle shop and they told me test out Vespa & Piaggio mp3 see witch one works for me!
Ièm torn between a 50cc scooter and Honda Navi-both seem to have the same cargo capacity.
If you could only have a scooter or motorcycle which would you pick?
Yamaha Tmax
What Vespa would you recommend for someone very tall? Thanks
The largest Vespa available is the GTS 300 line. Any of the GTS/GTV would be worth looking into. Other than that, you could look at some Piaggio scooters such as the BV350
@@VespaMotorsport thanks very much.
How does a large wheel scooter fit in with safety and insurance and safety? It's kind of a mix between a motorcycle and a scooter. All the advantages of a scooter with the advantages of larger wheels of a motorcycle?
My solution is to buy several bikes and enjoy them all. Funny thing is I ride my scooters more than big bikes
Robot, have you ever ridden a Vespa Cosa?
I actually test road a Stella scooter at this same shop 10 plus years ago. It was a four-stroke manual shift PX knock off. It was fun but I was over controlling it at first because of my motorcycle experience. I'm going to be looking for something in the Philippines very soon. It makes the most sense to get a Honda Cub type of motorcycle like the wave because they're so affordable and has the same utilitarian benefits that a scooter has. I saw Vespa's at a dealership there a few years back and they were pretty expensive in the Philippines
Somehow I have longing for only retro bikes
You missed maintenance differences between the two
Scooters are not designed for longer riding distances, they're " in town", no freeway riding, small no shifting cycles also. 500cc and larger cycles are best for the freeways and open road, long distance riding. If our host ROBOT were riding from San Diego to Newport Beach, Ca, he'd be riding a motorcycle, not a Vespa.
I've done long trips on both big motorcycles and maxi-scooters, and would say a big maxi-scooter is better for big trips. Better luggage capacity, better wind and weather protection, better comfort.
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