What if ULQUIORRA SURVIVED? - The 4th Espada's Hypothetical Future Role | Bleach: What If?
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2021
- Despite being one of Bleach's most popular characters, Ulquiorra's death was very definitive. Fans have always wondered what his involvement in the second half of Bleach would've been like had he lived beyond his fight with Ichigo - today we're going to speculate! In the second ever What If? video on the channel, we're asking the question 'What if Ulquiorra survived?'
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What part do you think Ulquiorra would've played if he survived? How would he fare against the Sternritter? Let me know!
Imagine and ichigo and ulquiorra vs ywach. Now that would be a fight.
Do what if starrk survive
I think he would do decently well. I think it says alot that Ywach himself fought Halibel. You could say its metaphorical. The King of Quincy fights the Queen of Hollows but its be more demoralizing if you have a sternritter or or Schutzstaffel do it.
Next what if should be Gin. Its definitely the most talked about in the fandom that I've seen. Recently had the debate in a Discord.
P.S. maybe a video about character who don't get to reincarnate. The reincarnation seems to be a forgotten point in Bleach. Characters like Yamamoto, Ulquiorra, and Chojiro do not get to reincarnate.
Something tells me he would've altered his tactics and personal combat preferences in order to both survive and deal damage to the Quincies. The postwar novels all but state that Hollows used guerrilla warfare that the Quincies found difficult to cope with.
I think Ulquiorra would say “My last standing order from Lord Aizen was to protect Hueco Mundo” as an excuse to fight against the Quincies, just so he doesn’t betray any emotion or stake in the conflict
That's a great thought yeah
That’s genius
Just imagining Ulquiorra being shot out of the Kukaku cannon with an entirely indifferent look on his face while everyone else freaks out is hilarious😅😂😂😂
Ulquiorra: I don't have enough emotions to give a shit
I decree this description the most CANNON of all the alternate time lines
He can fly anyway so there would nothing to be afraid of for him.
That will be pathetic an Kukaku ia overrated and uses like pathetic anime gag comic. Ulquiorra did not care about.
Something that NOBODY has pointed out about Ulquiorra in any character analysis I've ever watched in regards to his transition to becoming human is how he continued to fight on his last leg (quite literally) knowing death was coming. Ulquiorra tries to break Ichigos will throughout the entire fight asking why he would continue fighting an opponent he has no chance of defeating, even at one point mentioning how angry he'd be if he was in Orihime's position and an arrancar who was poorly prepared came to save him... then ironically attacking ichigo and slicing his horn off after losing half of his body... whether the intent was truly to die a warriors death or fight to the end for Aizen's sake or to figure out why Ichigo continues to move forward, Ulquiorra dies a "human".
This is a great take love it keep it up
13:00 I would tend to disagree. It might be true that Ulquiorra doesn't have something like "pride" as a hollow, but I think it's made quite clear throughout his encounters with Ichigo that he has something akin to disdain towards humans.
When Ichigo says he might have become more like a human, he gets angered. Keeps making remarks like "you are just at a human level", "humans won't be able to catch up to hollows for eternity" "imitating hollows is a reasonable path for humans that seek power".
It just seems to me that he feels like hollows are superior to humans, so I can't see him joining the quincys. Again, that's just how i see it so I could be wrong.
I see what you mean and I think he was still about to fight Ichigo until he started turning into dust
I think he sees emotions and ''the heart'' as silly little human fantasies, and that he as a hollow is not held back by that kind of weakness. Even with that distainful view, It's pretty clear he is interested in that kind of thing. He says mean things to Orihime to see how she reacts, he countinuously provokes Ichigo by putting Orihime in danger, he shows his full power to Ichigo even when he could kill him in first release, just to see him despair.
It'd be interesting to see how Ulquiorra would develop if he survived. He found out what ''the heart'' was right as he was dying, so we couldn't see, but I think he would be a lot softer on his view of humanity as a whole now that he understands it. However, he would never let the Quincies take over. Maybe he'd use the quincies as a way to study the human heart, who knows.
He did, but then at the very end his opinion on humans changed. He saw the potential in them and that their illogical emotions were a source of strength...I think he’d have been the same, but also have had much less deep seeded animosity toward them...sort of an “i still don’t like how you do things, and you’re inferior to me, but we need each other and you do have strengths that we don’t”
Yeah Idk in the manga but in the anime he was literally racist against humans lmao
@@rayqwonjackson3474 he knew he wasnt gonna win, he gave ichigos sword back so ichigo could kill him just so the match didnt remain unfinished but ichigo didnt agree to it and thats when he saw the value of humans and "changed"
Ulquiorra being around probably would've meant the Hollows would've fought more Quincies, Byakuya might've fought someone else while Ulquiorra gets to beat the Fear, and honestly he could've been one of the special war potentials.
@@KAIZENURAMESHI tosen has lot of fear though
There's no way Ulquiorra becomes one of the War Potentials. I think you all forget that YAMAMOTO of all people wasn't worth one of the slots. Ulquiorra is my fav Bleach character but that's just not happening.
@@grizzlyv2.076 Yama just was not because of his stubborn attitude towards getting help from humans. Also Yhwach was just insulting him.
@@otislloyd-zollinger2579 that's mad cap tho. Fact of the matter is Yamamoto/Unohana/Shunsui weren't worth a slot in there, so there's no way Ulquiorra would be there
@@grizzlyv2.076 if Urahara got in because of his "unpredictable means" then Ulquiorra can get in for something like his skill as a warrior. Plus timeskip training can do a bunch of stuff anyway.
Just would've been my head Canon to have a hollow war power if the hollows were more prominent in the final arc that's all.
This was very enjoyable to listen to. I hope your channel blows up. I've been listening to the videos while I'm stuck at work. They've been fun to listen to
I didn't know you were a bleach fan
He could be, he never stated he doesn't like bleach.
Oh I watch your Naruto videos.
Hey man! Love your work. You should make a bleach explanation video too you know that'd be great.
Eh, nice to see you here
you could also have orihimie heal him at the end of the battle
Why would she do that tho?
@@raht9578 he save uryu
Cant heal dust, which was what ulquiorra turned to
@@raht9578 if orihimie haved a chance to heal she would do it blieve me
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Grimmjow arm was dust. So that's not true
I always wanted Orihime to travel back to Hueco Mundo and "gather" Ulqiuora back together with her powers (Inu Yasha Style: A Quest that takes her all over Hueco Mundo) She wouldn't be able to explain to anyone why she does it, but she knows that she wants to give him a chance to see what it means to have a heart
This right here would make sense in the form at which her powers work and as you said wouldn't have much of an explanation
She wouldn't do that tho,Ulquiorra fucking killed Ichigo
@@dio8429 even when he killed him she still felt empathy for Ulquiorra when he was dying.
@@dio8429 btw love ur pfp 🐦
She couldn't heal Tsubaki when she didn't have all of the pieces of his broken body so there's no way in hell she could heal Ulqiuorra when he turned to miniscule pieces of dust and blew away to the ends of Hueco Mundo which is just as big if not bigger than Earth.
Woulda loved to see how Kubo would have done with his time skip design. Definitely imagine him wearing some sleek black turtleneck
He's just the downer who's trying to figure out why people are taking interest in certain things, but everybody can see that he's trying so they appreciate it
I think he would become that kid who sit in his room and didn't left it, simping to orihime
@@komiks42 He simps to no one
@@A_Black_Sheep94 "aizen Sama"
Bleach as a whole to me felt like Psychology meeting Shoñen and it was literally confirmed for me with Ichigo, Orihime and Ulquiorra SEPERATELY in their narrative and in 'ANYTHING BUT RAIN ARC'. Love this Subtle writing of Kubo.
It also has a poetic and philosophical side to it that i realy enjoyed
@@kikima258 you took the words right out of my mouth mate. Bleach is one of THE MOST Poetic series I read and my manga count is pretty high😉. The Philosophies are so incredible and inspiring not to mention they are very real.
@@kushagrasharma5402 i don't read much manga but litterature on the other hand is my thing and if you like this kind of stories i can recommand the book "leon the africain" by amine maalouf a master peice one critic literaly called him a magician for how mezmerizing his writting was
@@kikima258 oh my goodness mate yes I love the Literature based mangas alot thanks for recommending mate I am 100% gonna read it. Keep in touch, Do you have a discord?
@@kushagrasharma5402 unfortunately no
I wish Starrk survived he's was my favorite espada and he didn't even get a manga cover.
He isn't confirmed to be dead or alive
@@votepochitasupremacy9174 In the anime/manga it seems pretty obvious that he's dead same with Lilinette.
I could see Ulquiorra being useful in helping Urahara beat Askin. Long range, and powerful attacks keeping Askin off balance, and when Bankai’s and other power ups come out Ulquiorra blitzes Askin when given the chance with his second stage. Surprising the hell out of everyone.
Then I could see Ulquiorra and Grimmjow taking on Valkyrie or Barro, and Grimmjow sees Ulquiorra’s new form and just says fuck it, and forces himself into a second stage because he doesn’t want to be shown up.
After the transformation, Grimmjow is gloating at how great he is when Ulquiorra drops the bomb that the first time he transformed, he could only do it for a couple of minutes, and since Grimmjow is weaker than him he can only keep it up for maybe One. Hearing this, Grimmjow says that they better kill their enemy fast then.
Enter several panels of pure dual sided ass kicking.
After Grimmjow deals the “finishing blow,” he is postering with both his arms up saying, “YES! I AM THE GREATEST!” Ulquiorra flys by saying what could basically be, “He’s still not dead, dumbass,” and goes back into battle. Grimmjow gets pissed again gets ready to jump back into battle, goes back into base form extremely weakened, and needs to be carried out after being knocked out due to him being difficult.
Sounds about Grimmjow
The Espada I would have most liked to have seen survive and get involved in later is Starkk (+Lilynette), but Ulquiorra is a close second for sure.
I feel like Ulquiorra's motivations had he survived would have become a scientific interest in human bonds and the heart, and his motivation in the TYBW would have been to protect them, as low-key emotionless as he would have continued to appear. As he said to Ichigo as he was dying, 'Just when I was starting to find you humans interesting'. He may not have had such a profound epiphany about the 'heart' had he survived, but certainly from his battle with Ichigo and his interaction with Orihime I am sure his curiosity would have continued to grow about them.
As a hollow from the apparent dawn of time, if I understood that part of his backstory correctly, he may actually be aware of (i.e. have memories of) the pre-Soul King world of deathlessness Yhwach was trying to recreate, and so he might have been able to offer some insight on that state to Yhwach as well, which could have been interesting.
I think you would be right there, but I'm what's more interesting is if instead of white or shiro, aizen used ulquiorra as a science project in all but the rain Arc, now that is something I want to see.
I like the idea that if he survived, Ulquiorra would have been a slightly more emotionally honest person, a bit more kind to his fellow remaining arrancar. I also think he would have told the others about the Segunda Etapa and how he reached it, which would have lead to them in turn becoming more powerful and more able to face the Quincy when they arrived.
Yeah, know that you say that, that actually a very good point, and I'm surprised that he doesn't came up with that idea, I mean ulquiorra is a tactical mind, also how you imagine how he's personality would have become I would totally love that, and if stark survived I think he and ulquiorra would be close friends now, in honestly I love how that development for his character.
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Shoot dude that would be awesome.
@@carloss3499 it would show ulquiorra character growth, and maybe Kubo could makes novels about ulquiorra a more in-depth analysis of the way he thinks.
Saddest what if, I wanted to see his heart once he found it. I always thought that what actually caused him to disappear was understanding his humanity. He was based on Nihilism so once he feels something then that persona effectively dies. I think that’s why he turned to dust like that, I can’t remember anyone else just wasting away like that as they die. Maybe he could hang out with Ashido in Hueco Mundo in the what if story lol. I think he would’ve helped whichever side Orihime was on so indirectly he would be on Ichigo’s side.
He literally doesn't have a heart though. That's why hollows have holes.
I adore the end of Ulquiorra's story, but I do remember being kind of bummed when all the arrancar showed up, (especially grimmjow) that we couldn't get Ulquiorra. Fun video idea!
I feel the same, I was kinda angry when Grimmjow showed up. I was like howcome we get him and NOT ULQUIORRA???
@@gothic_llama to be fair to grimmjow he got cut down and left for dead but not dead... can't be mad at him for that
I don't think Ulquiorra will become ally with quincys because before to go Aizen said "Watch Hucue Mundo" that's why I think Ulquiorra will fight against quincys
"Doom is inevitable…even to god…"
*"TERCERA ETAPA"*
Dude... YES
I would love a Vasto Lorde form. Maybe thats what the third Etapa would show
@@scottiecurrie7927 have you seen his third release in brave souls?
@@shiroufan5401 I did! Do you think that could be a Vasto Lorde form for him?
@@scottiecurrie7927 no his Vasto lorde form was before he was a arrancar
If he lived it would have been awesome, can you imagine all the fights he could have had in the thousand year blood war, Imagine him and As Nodt or him and other Sternritters or can you imagine what would happen if he saw Aizen again.
Ulquorra vs Nodt would be lit
Aizen excpeted Ichigo and the Espada to be strong enough to aid in invading the soul palace for the Soul King
If he survived then he would've started stalking orihime 👀
Probably learning more about love and life while getting rejected by her on a repeated basis
@@megualgonzalez3955 bruh they are not even human, Hollows dont even have gender properly dont ruin ulquiorra character
Ulquiorra is 4000 year old and is bat rabbit humanoid guy, They are only humanoid because aizen wanted to,
Nel is half horse, grimmjow is panther, nnoitora is mantice, yammi is caterpillar monkey, arroniero is squid or octopus
I hate ships that have no logic but only headcanon with passion
"Is this what it means to have a heart" type shit 😭
@@kakashihatake6052 Homie Hollows have gender thats made clear, that is nnoitoras whole shtick, that he hates a woman being above him. I don't think we were ever giving Ulquiorras age. And they are humanoid because the closer they get to vasto lorde the smaller and more human they become.
@@otislloyd-zollinger2579 i think it was in a novel that his age was confirmed, also they have gender but not exactly still you get that hollows x human cant happen
Aizen is dead, Harribel is imprisoned, Hueco Mundo is invaded
Ulquiorra: sleeps
Grimmjow: tries to conquer Hueco Mundo
Ulquiorra: no
Grimmjow: I'VE COME TO FIGHT ICHIGO KUROSAKI!!!
Ulquiorra: Stop. Bad Cat. Very Bad.
Would have been neat to see interactions between Ulqiuorra and the Fullbringers
Especially if Tsukishima's Book of the End could potentially unlock something within him
Ulquiorra and Stark are the characters i would've loved to see in TTYBW, some of the top guys from the previous bad guy organization going toe to toe with the Quincy. Kinda reminiscent of the feeling when the captains came to kill the espada in previous arcs.
So write it. Kubo says he loves that people enjoy his series enough to create stories and he even enjoys reading them, including porn. He literally said if you write bleach porn with a male main character he wants people to send it to him lol.
@@A_Black_Sheep94 Ayo Fr 🤣🤣
@@9tailedbeast392 Yea it was in his latest fan q&a, he brought the porn part up on his own. A fan just asked how he felt about fanfiction lol.
Something I realized to be the case for Ulquiorra, is that - according to the trailer for his resurreccion - he’d actually come back from the ashes of his former being and rebuild after having to fade into nothing.
The battle with Ichigo would definitely kill him, but the possibility to return from the nothingness that is from within his own soul and as a person. Speaking of nothingness, etc. Ulquiorra would in time return as a broken being, that has transcended death beyond that one would go through, to when they become a hollow. To be reborn and evolve to another field of power.
There comes the trailer for his new form, that was revealed from the game of Bleach: Brave Souls. His form is canonically made by Tite Kubo. However, the very idea of him canonically be reborn is probably out of the question.
Unless Kubo gets enough motivation to return his popular character back to fruition, back to life.
I’d say Ulquiorra would have then returned years after his death. To collect the different pieces that had been scattared across Hueco Mundo thoroughout the years. To then open his eyes once more in this pit of darkness, crawling out this strange place where he breaks out of this ”cocoon”.
Ulquiorra will indeed - logically to his character trait as you mentioned - follow the order of this new Hueco Mundo. However, his uprisong will definitely leave a lot of characters shook and probably worried of his return. His spiritual pressure is low and would not be felt that easily by anyone. It’s hidden and still ”dead” in a sense.
I’d love to have him return. Possibly to the story for the future, with Ichigo now being a dad and all that.
I'm surprised you didn't go the route of using Orihime to use her god like healing powers to reverse/negate his injuries.
Well it was seen that she has some type of limitations, since she wasn’t able to heal the hole Ulquiorra put in Ichigo just moments prior. Maybe they’d reason it on a similar vain of whatever prevented her from healing Ichigo would’ve also prevented her from healing Ulquiorra?
@@oneoctaveabove You say that but didn't she heal/regenerate Grimjow's arm which was completely disintegrated and was stated to be impossible to bring back?.
@@riicky83 that was an arm, ulquiorra lost all his vital organs from ichigo cero and sword slash, and was a dead hollow walking anyway
@@riicky83 again, I'm just stating what happened and providing my logic from what was given. It makes enough sense to me on surface level that she wouldn't be able to heal Ulquiorra from grave injuries just as she wasn't able to heal Ichigo basically in the same scene.
If you want to talk about possible inconsistencies or power explanations then I'm not your man.
@@oneoctaveabove I think that is because Ulqi put a hole in the exact same place that his hollow's hole will be. So Inoue couldn't heal probably because she didn't realise it was his own reiatsu trying to keep him in his true state.
He would've dealt severely with the invading Quincies for sure and drastically lessened the extermination of the Hollows. And I guarantee the Quincies would've known new level of despair, notice they mostly crave war like it's a game. As crazy as it sounds he may have joined Orihime and her allies as they cleared Hueco Mundo of the Quincy remnants after the war, no doubt accepting her proposal to evacuate rather than deal with Ulquiorra.
Proposal? More like proposal to be her husband.
Ok I'll stop. lol
If that's the case I think that the quinces would send their stronger forces to capture he, in all honesty I think we all can agree that ulquiorra is one of if not most powerful espda, and I think yhwach would forces would target the biggest hollows, now imagine that an entire army vs ulquiorra.
@@simonmariolle351 I would honestly like to see a mini series that tackles what happened in Hueco Mundo during the Quincy's dual invasions. Yes we know it was an extermination that horrified all who saw it, but we only got snippets that focused on specific characters and events and there was obviously more to it. Sure the postwar novels took up some of it but still it can be more.
Wouldn't Juha just kill Ulquiorra himself?
@@dameonaquest7607 Possibly. There's so many nuances to this theoretical scenario, Yhwach did personally deal with and captured Harribel so who knows.
This is a pretty great video honestly. As thematically appropriate as Ulquiorra's death is, I still think he's one of the few arrancars that deserved a second chance to live, along with stark of as well. He deserved to understand emotions and would have made excellent character development and story material. It's the only death I'm really salty about in bleach. Although I'm also a little about how barragan was killed too. Both deaths were kinda pulled out of the ass to me. Still I think Ulquiorra deserved better. 😔
i wish stark had another battle and or killed one of the vizords if he was gonna die anyways
I'm still not sure why Tite Kubo didn't have Mayuri turn him into one of his resurrected Arrancar. I mean he was in one piece when he lost unlike Barragan so it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. Also Mayuri will have an actual Espada as a test subject then just a Privaron or Fracción.
@@notthechosenjuan2413 maybe they feared his strength due to being #1 espada
@@robertgonzalez5280 Nah Mayuri wouldn't care how strong he is, in fact the strength would interest him more. Kubo probably just thought his story was finished and didn't want to bring him back.
@@IchigoKurosaki911 so which charecters did mayuri resserct?
@@robertgonzalez5280 Former espada 6: Luppi, 2 of the privarone espada chiruchi and dordoni, and the big dude who fought yumichika.
Imagine if Ulquiorra used Lanza del relampago in the fake karakura town. It might have destroyed all of Japan depending on your calcs for it.
He wont destoy all of japan as he will hold back
Easily destroy Japan i believe
@@kushagrasharma5402 it depends on how nels statement of los noches is taken and assuming how many gates there are. My calcs got it to roughly the size of the uk. Which is about half of Japan.
@@MrDeclareWar wellnthats quite small cuz it should around a large country ya know CLYDE made a whole video about it which doesn't have any head canons but statements from manga and with the hell verse movie it's to know Lanza del ralampago is easily capable of destroying Japan you should check it out btw it's very informative.
@@MrDeclareWar yeah they're quote informative like i kinda got a good idea of how massively strong these characters are.
What I would like to know is what would happen if Stark survived
Same as Ulquiorra. He'd solo the Sternritter and get saved by Ichigo against Juha.
That would be awesome idea
Knowing Starrk's personality, he'd probably spend it sleeping and lilinette annoying him
I kinda hope Ulquiorra ends up becoming an model employee for Urahara. There's some potential for that.
He only found out the "meaning" of the heart moments before death.
Now I wish Ulquiorra was alive in TYBW, it must’ve been exciting to see 🤔🤔🤔
It would have been cool if the Espada and Arrancar who died by a zanpakuto were "purified" and end up as spirits with unusually high reishi in Soul Society a while later. Or perhaps, after a time skip, we see them as a seated officer shinigami. Maybe their name is different, and not all their memories are intact, but a careful observation of appearance and personality will make one realize they were someone we might've seen before.
I think Ulquiorra could have been the most interesting of the espada, becoming more human, potentially less nihilistic if his role was to be played out. It would have probably been a more interesting espada group as well in the TYBW
The true #1 espada 🤧
Facts!!! He is really stronger than Haribel and Yammy... Barrigan and Starrk I’m not so sure though...
Ulquirra in his second release form wins the karakura Town arc for the espada
Starrk
@@SuperJutah yammy is not skillled, he has energy but vant harden hierro as skillfully as starrk and other espada, he is slow too he had hard time catching rukia
I think ulquiorra is strongest then starkk
@@kakashihatake6052 Starrk reiatsu passively was killing hollows and he was so strong he had to contain his power in a child instead of a zanpakutou... I think before vizard Starrk was the strongest but with his second form ulquirra is slightly above him.... very hard to decide
@@SuperJutah I think Starrk even in his res is only like 80-90% of his original base form and he is the first ever arrancar so I think that if he did not split and achieved his res in his original form he would be much much stronger and I also think that in his original form he would also achieve segunda etapa. BTW first res gives a power boost of 10x and Segunda etapa gives the power of 100x. Ulquiorra also was quite special and I think he was one of the youngest Espada(Correct me if I am wrong) he had a lot of potential, so much potential that I could see him achieving the 3rd form of resurrection if he had survived. Ofc that is all my thoughts and how I see everything working out I would like to see your thoughts on my comment.
This makes me wonder, if Hikifune made a gigai with enough reiatsu and Ichibe were to use Shirafude Ichimonji to name it Ulquiorra Cifer, would that allow him to resurrect him ? Ichibe already demonstrated he can use a name and reiatsu to completely restore a being, so why wouldn't he have expanded on this idea.
But there are no reasons to ressurect Ulquiorra by Squad Zero
Yo, that idea alone, if it can actually apply to anyone, the that's broken AF😂
I really dig how you kept the what if true to the character as opposed to what fans want to see. Excellent video
Thank you so much for your bleach videos idk why but I’ve been missing bleach more these days and I found your channel which basically saved me again thank you so much🙏🏻
Glad you're enjoying them, thanks for the support!
I think he might work with ichigo since at the end he understood orihimes words about the heart and what she meant by those words
I would love it if kubota would make a chapter with a hypathetical scenario where ulquiorra was part of the thousand year blood war arc or a picture where its ichigo, Grimmjow and Ulquiorra
And after the video I thought if some quotes and scenarios
After ulquiorra battle against Quilge and team ichigo arrives and ulquiorra turns to them "Ichigo Kurosaki" Ulquiorra said and turns his eye to Orihime and after a second turns his head back
Scenario 2
On their way to the soul kings palace Team Ichigo, Nelliel, Grimmjow. and Ulquiorra all sit silently until Grimmjow speaks
"So you cam back from the dead" Grimmjow ssidnand Ulquiorra sits there saying nothing "Are you still loyal to that excuse of a leader" Ulquiorra again said nothing and Grimmjow gets angry to trues to confront Ulquiorra but Nelliel stops him. Orihime walks over to Ulquiorra and Ichigo is on guard and as she approach Ulquiorra she saids "Um thank you for trying to help us" and Ulquiorra looks up and saids to Orihime "Do not misunderstand I'm doing this because we have a common cause nothing more" and Orihime saids back "I suppose your right but still I'm grateful" but she can say anymore they made it to the soul palace
Sorry for it being long that's just my interpretation
You Did A Really Good Job As Always Man I Love Your Content And How In Depth Into Detail You Go While Making Your Videos!.💯
I always thoroughly enjoy your take on these types of vids 👍👍
i remember asking this a while ago, i bet it is a coincidence, but you know what?
im happy, i wanted this, and i got it, very cool
Always love your vids man. Tbh, if he had survive, i think he would have found a way to continue evolving.
Glad to see that you’re still wearing the Captain America Tshirt my dude lol but it’s been a while since I watched one of your videos and I’m glad that I chose this absolute banger of a topic! 👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
really interesting What if and your ideas with it awesome video
I should note that the backstory on Arronierro heavily implied that the Espada predated Aizen and consisted of the strongest 'natural arrancar', and that Aizen just kinda of either just stacked it more with Vastro Lorde (as most VL seen were loaners), and built Las Noches as their actual 'palace'. (Granted Las Noches was originally Barragan's palace.
This would make sense as it would seem that Starrk was a natural arrancar. Like the hogyoku (mispell I know) didn't do anything for Starrk/Lillinette.
So a Can't Fear Your Own World or other book that covered early Espada etc would be epic as top tier Hueco Mundo life is probably distinctly more mundane than one would imagine.
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I was mostly agreeing but reserved on your ideas until you got to the interaction bit in the canon and that's when it really all came together for me and i got excited about your headcanon. i can definitely imagine a lot of what you said and it feels pretty realistic i think for how i've always interpreted him. and danggggggg, him and grimmjow tag teaming in a fight would have just been so amazing even though i just LOVE that grimmjow ended up with kisuke. UGH. his death in the anime ripped up my heart so much but the image you got in my head of the cannon interaction and tag team fight echoed that pain so much. i really feel like i know what we lost now. so, good job! lol
Love your "what if" videos!
Really interesting discussion !
Good Video sir. I believe your theory is sound and makes sense.
Ah yes, Ulquiorra. The only antagonist to kill a protagonist (twice) and almost stole his girl
Great video 👍
I agree with most of this, the main issue as usual, is not enough conversations with Aizen
I really wanted to see Ulquiorra speak to imprisoned Aizen and square his nihilism with Aizen's worldview, because I was always kinda confused as to why Ulquiorra was so loyal at all.
Ulqiorra was trying to find meaning via serving Aizen
The only way he could return is via 'science hax'. Something like Mayuri having discovered a sample of Ulquiorra's tissue/hair in Szayel's lab during the HM arc. In the 'Spirits Are Forever With You" light novel, there's also Roka Paramia, who had an ability that spread out threads all over HM that recorded information. She could copy any attack she gathered data on, and even used Mugetsu at one point. Using something like that or flat out cloning Ulquiorra is the only way I see him being able to be 'brought back'. If he never died, I wonder if he would have been a good help to Mayuri against Pernida.. after all, he could simply cut off his own arm/leg and instantly regrow it if Pernida got one of his limbs with those nerves. I think Ulquiorra's potential change is like that of a real-life sociopath/psychopath - they don't feel in the way that we do, but they *can* be reasoned with in the right circumstances and can take measures to act differently and control their behavior and how they interact with others. In the same way, Ulquiorra's apathy could remain, while he chooses to alter how he treats others (a process that would have begun with the whole thing with Orihime)
I wish he survived. He would have been a powerful ally....but then again, it’s one more character that kubo would have done almost nothing with unfortunately. If the series went on another few years and kubo was able to take his time and do every battle and the story properly, man would it be awesome to see ulquiorra and even stark battle some Quincy
Now time for a real hypothetical match:
Ulquiorra vs As Nodt
Is Ulquiorra the perfect matchup vs As Nodt? Or does he has inner fears?
Yeah I think Ulquiorra is perfect against as nodt cause if he wasn't afraid against Ichigo Vasto Lorde he wouldn't have been afraid against as nodt.
Ulquiorra sees everyone(except maybe Orihime) and everything as meaningless and valueless, including fear. He's got nothing to fear and nothing to lose, for he accepts pain and death as a lung accepts air. A man like that is dangerous beyond understanding.
I don’t think As Nodt’s powers would work on Ulquiorra, as he has no fear and has nothing *to* fear. Ulquiorra would annihilate As Nodt, since he’s completely useless without his powers, as we saw in his fight against Rukia.
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Comments on the Video:
Seeing Ulquiorra survive after Yami died makes me wonder if he would visit where Yami died if he was even still there honestly that scene might be quite interesting.
I think the direction you took in this video was quite intersting and really gave me idea's for what direction I might take with an idea like this.
The way you told it was quite easy to listen to an enjoyable while also having this realistic air yet still being fun enough to think of many idea's.
I think what I'm trying to say is that you have enought detail and can understand the scaling of the fights without going into too much detail to make it like a vs battle and understanding where the story would have gone.
I like to usually tell in 2 different directions but this base line is quite a nice direction.
I think this was a good video overall.
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When someone brought this question up to me it was in like an idea of the timeline going differently where Ulquiorra and Ichigo kept increasing in power while they were fighting...
For what reason???
Either something interupts their fight...
Aizen...
Or their fight brings the strongest Hollows from all over and they are getting caught up in the crossfire...
Ori and Uryu would have to defend themselves as well but I don't think that was the point of the story the other person was telling me.
Then as they gained more power their abilities would get stronger Ulquiorra would still seemly disappear but Orihime would try and heal him but it would work...
Except it kind of did and he was able to increase his ability waking up thinking this is the next life only to realize he finds himself in his base form and in an unfamiliar or familiar area.
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So then they also said something like Ulquiorra probably wouldn't grow in power as quick as Grimmjow or the way he would grow in power would be different since Grimmjow would be more determined to get stronger and more like that while Ulquiorra wouldn't have that same drive...
I can kind of see that but maybe he amps it up later.
My idea was always that he got the 3rd Release (You know the one) :)
So it's possible they are comparable in base but he probably might be a bit weaker but he overpowers Grimmjow overall.
Ulquiorra going and making Yammy a grave might be kind of cool I also thought of a cool concept that makes him act like a certain character from Seven Deadly Sins I won't namedrop them just in case of spoilers.
Although Ulquiorra having Yami's Mask and possibly being able to hear his soul or some remanent would be a kind of cool concept.
In his Base state it doesn't look like he has anything but in his First Release he has the Yammy Mask from his 2nd Transformation with the 4 Bone like things on the top and the actual Mask or whatever existed on the bottom.
In his Second form maybe it gets more scrambled.
This could honestly be a Plot point and I think it would be quite cool.
I'm just thinking of if you were telling the story at the time like actually writing it with like fan demand and all these things going on the concepts might be quite interesting.
I feel like this air might exist between Ulqui and Ori which is funny because while Ulqui might just be there for most of the time not really caring Ori would essentially be his translater the only one he's comfy talking to a bit more than the others while he and Grimmjow just have this rivalry.
I think Hinting the entire arc at like all these secrets Ulqui has would be quite funny and then you just have the novels and games to confirm such things.
I think it would definitly be quite cool.
I'm not trying to say anything of the overall story and how the characters end would change but I think it's a possiblity it might go a different way.
I like the concept of Ulquiorra and Grimmjow teaming up to beat one of the higher tier level fighters. I think having Ulquiorra hinted at transforming way past here would honestly be quite cool especially since him gaining the wings would already show his first form where like I said he could have the mask so that's one kind of thing that would erase these hints he could be given.
I think the interactions would probably be the coolest thing.
Especially if Ulquiorra somehow got to interact with Aizen.
That would be quite interesting.
Like overall with the idea so much cool stuff could happen.
1: The interactions
2: The techniques and implied new showings.
3: The fights.
And then everything else really.
I can understand why What-if's like these are really popular.
I forgot to put it in my main comment but I kind of agree with him representing this order and him beleving Grimmjow represents Chaos I even see him being inspired to tell Halibel to train harder or just say that he might train her just so he can keep her at the top.
Like it could be an intereting concept and he just becomes this Order keeper in the government of the Arrancar and hollows.
This is what I love about Bleach...
It's not a flawless series, not every character gets enough attention... But there's clearly a lot of thought put into the world and characters... And for those unanswered questions or hypothetical situations, there's enough clues to help build a believable headcanon outside of the manga (and to read beyond the surface level of the existing material)
Yeah so there's pretty much 2 points of interest I have when it comes to Ulquiorra surviving: He could survive to join the crew and learn more about emotions and things, get stronger and help them in the last arc or the Hogyoku could just decide it wants Ulquiorra to be it's next master, go to him (don't ask me how, maybe it just ends up becoming attracted to him like a magnet) and make him become his BBS version, at which point we probably won't see him again until he maybe later decides to join the war. To be honest Hogyoku Ulquiorra in the final war sounds really interesting but other than these two I feel like any other outcome would just kinda diminish his character as a whole. Ulquiorra is a character that you always want to see more of (or at least I do) but I don't want to see him get massacred considering he ended on a pretty good note in canon. I just wish I could wipe out my memory and rewatch that fight on top of the canopy of LN for the first time over and over again... Either that or really good reaction channels watching through it I suppose
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*BREATHES HEAVILY* please 🙏
Ulquiorra alone is confirmed in the databooks to be stronger than both Urahara and Yoruichi combined, and Urahara is around as strong as Askin in Bankai, so Ulquiorra would more than likely shit on nearly all of the Sternritter except for Gerard and Yhwach, since Askin is one of their strongest.
which databook???
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"Ulquiorra could have continued fighting without being put in a disadvantageous position, but he returns after assessing Ichigo as a non-threat." When talking about when Yami and Ulquiorra first arrived in the human world.
I think the most appropriate way for Ulquiorra’s survival would be Orihime showing him kindness and compassion by restoring his organs using her abilities. I feel as though Ulquiorra wouldn’t completely change his world view or automatically join Ichigo’s side but I could see him sealing his Ressurction and wandering the sands of Hueco Mundo and the rest playing out as you stated with probably a warning to Ichigo before leaving of his Inner Hollow (White).
Man I would love to have seen a spinoff where the espada survive and just get to fuck around in hueco mundo after aizen is gone
Ulquiorra, Grim, and Ichigo just hanging out together XD Inoue would have to be their to actually keep Ulquiorra there.
I kind of wish you'd kept the fight closer to what it was originally because the ulquiorra at the end of that fight was almost a different character from the beginning or middle. I feel like a small change of all the previous attacks doing less damage to Ulquoirra's organs would've been enough to justify his survival. Or Orihime could've decided to heal him. Really what I was interested in was what Ulquiorra would've done after his epiphany at the end of the fight. After understanding the intangible nature of a heart and sort of developing a strange attachment to Ichigo and Orihime. I don't really ship Ulquiorra and Orihime the way some fans do but I do think she kind of became someone meaningful to him in the end which is a big deal for someone like Ulquiorra. I think it would be kind of hilarious if she saved him and he just decided that she was his new boss or something like that.
I love enemies like Ulquiorra and Katakuri from one piece who have their life views completely upended by their fight with the protagonist.
I'd imagine he would have helped against Askin or perhaps Gerard and given the Quincy vulnerability to hollows he would have been a great asset.
I think it would’ve been interesting to see Grimmjow’s reaction to Ulquiorra’s second release and realizing just how much further he has to grow to catch up. And I know that Grimmjow did receive a kubo-designed second release in the game, but I don’t think it would’ve happened until after the final arc in the manga
i can see something happening between him and orihime. he could help her get stronger and more confident in herself and she could help him be more emotionally open and understanding.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I couldn't imagine it happen any other way if he survived his battle with Ichigo. I just wonder though if he would survive the TYBW since Tite Kubo planned for him to die already.
It would certainly be interesting to see how Ulquiorra's regeneration would interact with Askin's The Deathdealing.
I wish. He would have so much room to develop as a character. Experiencing different things and different emotions. He would be top 3 favorite for sure.
What if ULQUIORRA had hougyoku?
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I think you're spot on, he would be reserved and want to do what is best for Hueco Mundo
Ulquiorra aiding Mayuri and Nemu against Pernida would've been cool. Pernida tries destroying his limbs like he did to Zaraki but Ulquiorra just rips them off and regenerates them, could be an interesting dynamic
At the end of the battle ulquiorra realized the meaning of heart and I believe that's what kills him.. Ulquiorra was the embodiment of nisilam and so he finding meaning in life goes against his very own existence causing him to cease to exist
Ulquiorra is such a mood
I always figured Ulquiorra would stay hidden and keep to himself after Aizen is gone. Maybe kill off any sternritter that get close to him and make his presence known in the palace raid. I envisioned he'd be either shirtless or wear the HM rags.
I remember reading that canonly Ulquiorra did have feelings for Orihime so he'd probably join in to help Ichigo as favor for her. He'd then go away when he senses Aizen and is content with him taking over.
I consider Ulquiorra v As Nodt the Ali v Tyson fantasy of anime so I'd have like for them to at least meet up. In my mind he shows up in the Rukia fight instead of Byakuya.
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We need more What If videos.
Pausing at 7:45, just to give input on two things.
First, assuming it was the second cero that finished him off, I see his escape, while still helping Uryu, would be to slice Ichigo's horn as before, but immediately dive away. They wouldn't know where he went or if he was coming back, but from there he'd do as you say, and go back out into the barren wild as it were. That keeps his interactions up to the end of the fight intact without costing him his life.
But I don't think he'd be content to go back to how things were. I think he'd be almost haunted by that very humanity you pointed out he was developing. That would might rouse him would be a glacially slow, but continuingly growing frustration, over what he felt, and why, and how, to his horror even, he didn't want to be alone.
I could see Ulquiorra freeing Aizen from his seals as soon as he found out he was still alive. I think this could have ultimately been the path to making Aizen the true villain, im sure somehow Aizen unleashed might be able to take on Juha Bach especially with Ulquiorra backing him up in the fight. God I would love to see this.
So I noticed this in your Starkk what if video too, but what about the possibility of old arrancar having interactions with Aizen again?
I do believe in CFYOW it’s stated Grimmjow seeks strength to protect Hueco Mundo aside from small verbal spats with Nelliel he mostly keeps to himself but he does kill and devour those who challenge him or the current order.
He never actually challenges Harribel for the crown.
He’s essentially an enforcer who defends hueco mundo from outside threats like the Quincy.
We got Queen mother Harribel and Princess Nel and Prince Grimmjow 😆
A timeskip ulquiora would be insanely powerful. Honestly he would defeat almost all the sternritter except gerard, lile, askin, and pernida.
(He already was the the strongest espada maybe not as powerful as yammy but i mean yammys dumb so ulq would stomp him)
Ulquiorra VS Lillie Barro would be a thematically interesting fight. Angel VS demon
I have been asking that myself for the past 15 years 😆
Ok know I like to hear more what if video
It was many interviews after ulquiorras withering away. Before kubo admitted he was gone and not coming back. It makes me think there was definitely a plan for him in the final arc.
It would have been really emotional if Ichigo, and Orihime, had kept building up his compassion, and care for something so he could become a good guy, and it would be his new leash on life after losing to someone because i believe he felt the way he did since he felt so confident in his power which makes him so nihilistic since he is just meant to defend so aizen, just used him for that like a defensive drone.
Imagine if Ulquiorra lived and eventually gained a 3rd or even 4th release, he already unlocked the 2nd without letting anyone know so clearly he was training to become stronger. He was stronger than his master Aizen before the hogyuku
look up bleach brave souls ulquiorra his last form ur welcome
Here's one for you,
What if Stark and Ulquirorra were swapped and Stark stayed to fight Ichigo and Ulquirorra went with Aizan? How would it have played out?
This is a more believable scenario than what was suggested in my opinion. Ulquiorra flat out told full hollow Ichigo to kill him because he'd rather die than loose so I just can't see him running to save his own life.
I just read the hueco mundo arc again and know a Video on ulqiorra i like that
I wonder if he survived,wouldnt Ywach mark him as a war potential target and try to eliminate him personally? Atleast if they had data on the surviving arrancars, they'd know Ulq is a powerhouse
Actualy there is a way for Ulquiorra to still be "alive". We know that Zanpakuto, when kill hollows, cleance them of they sins, so thet they can enter the cicle of reincarnation again(along with any other souls that was inside them). But Ichigo refuse to do it, The most severe injuries Ulquiorra received after Cero, so via hollow energy (and Hollow Ichigo didn't ate or bite him ether). That basicaly mean that Ulquiorra died without cleansing or being consumed. He suppose to go to Hell as a sinner (and we know that espada goes there as they are, with power fully intact on the example of Szael and Zommari)