So, Why DIDN'T the Captains Use KIDO (or Anything...) Against the Sternritter? | Bleach Discussion

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    Beware manga spoilers in this video!
    So...why didn't any of the Captains use Kido against the Sternritter in the first Quincy invasion? Or any ability outside of Bankai for that matter? In this video, we'll try to answer those questions as best we can - let's take a look!
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  • @MrTommo2304
    @MrTommo2304  Рік тому +120

    So why didn't the Captains use Kido, or really any abilities, in the first Quincy invasion fights? What do you think of my theories, both in-universe and narrative? Let me know!

  • @quicksy__
    @quicksy__ Рік тому +378

    Imagine Yamamoto saying "how are we supposed to fight them?" after Woderweiss seals his bankai.

  • @isaaccook1890
    @isaaccook1890 Рік тому +490

    Kubo should've included a page or two where Renji uses a small Kido technique and it gets absorbed, and then later chastised by Byakuya. Just an easy way to remind us readers that these techniques aren't being used for a reason.

  • @Traumerei59
    @Traumerei59 Рік тому +267

    I have to admit that Byakuya and Kisuke not using kido during the whole arc even the second invasion and it not being adressed is really weird considering how much kido those 2 use.

  • @mustafaozdemiroglu5853
    @mustafaozdemiroglu5853 Рік тому +223

    I always wanted Tessai to join the final battle. Maybe the wisest person of a strong concept like Kido after Ichibei.(Ichibei broke Yhwach’s defence with Kido) During the FKT arc, when Don Konanji came, I first thought he was Tessai and I was excited.But ıt was Don Kanonji of course. During Turn back the Pendulum Arc, Tessai impressed me a lot. Unfortunately, Kubo completely forgot about this character. I hope we can see a little Filler battle in the anime (Small chance.)

  • @Jargonoftheantolopes
    @Jargonoftheantolopes Рік тому +218

    I’m always stunned by your ability to produce so much quality Bleach Content. I’m thrilled to see that sub number grow everyday!

  • @Jarikraider
    @Jarikraider Рік тому +73

    Kido seems to usually only work if you're already at least a little stronger than your opponent. Unless you're Urahara.

  • @tophfan
    @tophfan Рік тому +1

    my unpopular opinion is that Kido is way better used in anime filler arcs than manga arcs

  • @blackfox4138
    @blackfox4138 Рік тому +2

    This kinda falls with my overall criticism of Bleach fights. They're all more or less battles of one-upsmanship. Outside of a handful of fights, most fights are typically resolved by whose broken ability overpowers the other. This results in a circumstance where the only way to bring up any stakes is by removing said op ability. Other than that, there aren't really any tactics involved in a fight, which is what Kido is primarily used for, tactical play. Whereas Bankai is used to simply overpower your opponent.

  • @user-cg1oh4iw4g
    @user-cg1oh4iw4g Рік тому +2

    Yeah kubo was either lazy/didn't have enough time or just forgot. This arc is plagued with this issue

  • @LupercalRising
    @LupercalRising Рік тому +6

    Byakuya loves his Kido #4 so I was surprised we didn't see it

  • @derekrichardson7853
    @derekrichardson7853 Рік тому +36

    I was disappointed in not seeing any kido halfway through the arc, but then I realized that Quincy manipulate the reishi around them to form their attacks. So really the sternritter could probably just absorb a kido the same way Kirge did to Ayon and the sands of Hueco Mundo.

  • @phonyalias7574
    @phonyalias7574 Рік тому +27

    I don't think Kubo forgot about Kido. It was essential during the Aizen fight, and it was at least referenced during the Fullbring arc. Instead, I think the problem is that Kubo ran out of good ideas for it. Once he made a few spells he seemed to like, he mostly introduced new things to the system through incantations. Double, full, half, none, two in one, and so on. I think most of his good ability ideas went to zanpakto, so kido abilities were rare beyond a core few.

  • @obrians-brown1307
    @obrians-brown1307 Рік тому +40

    Always Wondered about this. I always imagined the other Quincies would use Reishi domination to absorb the Shinigami kido. Now Im probably thinking their Blut Vene would counteract it.

  • @BlackLotus2077
    @BlackLotus2077 Рік тому +6

    That’s a damn good question. If I were them, I’d pull anything out my butt to stay alive

  • @SatoshiSosuke
    @SatoshiSosuke Рік тому +87

    It's a solid theory. If you wanna add to it, you can take Hitsugaya as an example for this and pre and post war Byakuya as well. I think Hitsugaya uses bankai in like almost every fight he's in. For what is suppose to be a shinigami's trump card, he's extremely quick to pull it out. Granted, he gets more and more abilities in his bankai but he spent so much time refining that instead of his shikai. On that note, look at Byakuya. After he gets his bankai stolen, he immediately goes to get a much deeper understanding of his zanpakuto and he gets a power boost so massive from that training that his new shikai is so massive that As thinks it's his bankai. They've grown extremely reliant on their trump card and it shows. Hopefully they take the lessons from this war to heart and train to understand their zanpakuto better in the future.

  • @mimikyuliker946
    @mimikyuliker946 Рік тому +16

    I have another theory about why kido is scarcely used, not only in this arc but bleach in general. Narratively, it’s more interesting for each character to exhibit unique powers and abilities than for everyone to be using similar kido arts. Funnily enough, the period where kido is used the most is when Aizen becomes so overpowered with his shikai that the only way to make any fight with him interesting is for him to primarily attack with kido

  • @9LivesDeepDives
    @9LivesDeepDives Рік тому +14

    Never been this early. Supreme watch again Mr Tommo. Always enjoy your vids.

  • @nathanielduggan1684
    @nathanielduggan1684 Рік тому +10

    Biggest critique about Renji freakout over being unable to use bankai is... Szayel literally already did this to him already in the Hueco Mundo arc

  • @anthonyfelix2972
    @anthonyfelix2972 Рік тому +12

    I can understand and accept how the manga couldn't explain how the Quincy were a big threat during this invasion but it's disappointing they didn't show it in the anime.