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Pat the NES Punk Greg and anything he tries to be a part of is harassed by ex fans. The band he joined, his family, and many other people are being harassed by people whom apparently used to enjoy Greg. He wants everything deleted so hopefully people will forget about him and leave him alone. It's misguided and it won't work, but it's not due to animosity. There are legitimate concerns behind this move by Greg.
I've just started watching this clip, but good for Ian to quickly talk about being wrong about that earlier video. Being able to admit when one is wrong is a great characteristic.
Channing King Ian's really great about stuff like that. He's not shy or proud enough to dig in his heels on small or large issues and freely admit when he's changed his mind or come across new information. I have a lot of respect for him because of that.
In Jirard most recent video, he stated that he reached out to Greg about removing the videos and that Greg did not respond. He decided to remove them anyway.
Greg was pressuring him to do it, even threatening legal action. Jirard decided to take them down rather than fight it. A move that shows a lot of character IMO, and I imagine if I was in his spot I wouldn't want my channel to be associated with someone who is going to act like that anyway, so good riddance to Greg.
This was his idea.He could just get rid of all the videos.But he didn't. He know what this job takes from him.I hope he will get like 4 month break after that.But think about all the NEW subscribers he will pick up over this new remake period.He upload more frequently then any NB content maker.Think of how much good reputation his channels will get.
Greg's argument makes absolutely no sense. He wasn't forced by gunpoint to appear in 120 videos. Obviously if he consented to be in all those videos then he gave consent. He is not even using the term likeness in the right way. It's not like someone using a picture of LeBron James advertising their product without permission. He was in the video of his own free will.
Greg could've let sleeping dogs lie, but no. He comes back after one-and-a-half years and NOW demands that those videos featuring him be removed. EVERY video, not just Completionist episodes. I find that suspect...
Little did you know I will film a video of these comments and your likeness in your avatar will be locked onto my channel forever! Your Waiver cannot help you now! haha! Jokes aside just goes to show how inane Greg's demand is.
His sense of humor was pretty terrible. Granted Jirard's humor isn't the best either, but is fall less obnoxious. I think the videos have generally gotten better without Greg.
Well, Now that we know what crap Jirrad was up to you have to wonder if Greg was actually being tempermental or he knew a side of Jirard that nobody saw publicly at the time. Horrific whiplash from the last couple of days.
I have a brilliant idea. Imagine this podcast exactly as it is only it's in three parts. One part has only Pat. One part has only Ian. The third part has everything else. The room, the pictures, the sound effects, that's all in the third part. You can choose exactly which part you want to experience.
I applaud Ian for trying to maintain the CUPodcast schedule while in such obvious internal pain. I'll admit that I missed some details as to what exactly it is he's going through, but even any empathetic first time watcher could see the pain 'the long haired dude' is in. The point of this post is this: if you don't want to do this Ian, for whatever reason (or even Pat if you feel the need to stop), then just simply stop. You don't owe us anything. With that said, thanks and stay healthy in all aspects of life.
It'd be amazing if the remakes are just the old videos with Alex's jpeg face pasted over Greg any time he appears and voiced over to say "Alex" anytime you hear the name Greg
ahh yes because being best buds and co-owner of the channel means nothing when your best friend kicks you out after you get married lies about how amical your"departure" is then sicks his fans on you for 6+ Months you ave the gall to say can you just remove this about me on your channel and stop profiting off of our work its so "Dickish" of him Then you exbestbud sick his fans on you in the final month of a deadline you set months in advance WITHOUT USING THE DMCA Process on youtube and RUINING you EXFreinds channel after he kicked you out and refused to share money earned on those videos you worked on with him. Remind me again why Jirad is such a great person again because he sounds like a slimy leech.
You know those so called fans came to his video on their own will right? It's not like Jirard ever said "Go to his video and make a mess there." It's pretty much just angry fans doing things on their own accord. Hell, his announcement video actually called for fans NOT to go to Greg channel and make things worse. But surprise surprise people actually did that.
I wish he'd called Greg's bluff to be honest... I'm sure for him a permanent split will ease his mind, but Greg has turned out to be such an asshole that I'd love to see him be forced to back down. I tried watching some of the early episodes after Jirard's vid, but it's now impossible to enjoy while knowing what a tool Greg turned out to be.
"I'm sure for him a permanent split will ease his mind" It seems to me that's the only reason he's doing this. Jirard said he's in the right legally to keep the videos up. He could even go halfway and re-edit the videos to remove Greg. But he wants to completely clear the slate, even though the added workload is insane. Jirard strikes me as an emotional man, so wanting to completely purge those painful memories doesn't surprise me. But at the cost of potentially burning yourself out? I really wish he'd look at this from a physical viewpoint instead of an emotional one...
ValensBellator I agree, but then I thought about it through his shoes and I wouldn't want that ass hole on my channel at all after that shit. I would much rather redo the videos than have him still around in some way
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the Completionist episodes past 120 have been better than the episodes leading up to 120. I felt Greg's humor started to become extremely forced as time went on, especially with the song breaks in the middle of the episodes that had nothing to do with anything. For example, the Assassin's Creed II video. Those song breaks killed the flow of the review. Or the jokes with the calls in the Dead Rising review. It killed the flow. With Greg gone, there's still jokes, but they don't take long and it doesn't kill the review flow. So in a way, I'm glad episodes 1-120 are being remade, but I hope Jirard doesn't die from 100%ing 6 games a month.
I don't mind that he's redoing the episodes. Honestly, I find Greg irritable and cannot stand watching the older episodes of both Completionist and Beard Bros.
Duke Spubber I actually liked the stupid dorky thing that they had ... I actually unsubbed when that started happening but I just resubbed after watching this video
Yep. He's redoing all 120 episodes as well as the Super Bear Bros. playthoughs, including Wild Arms. He'll be increasing his workload to 6 reviews a month because of this, along with one Defend It! episode a month since that goal was reached on Patreon.
I was happy when Greg left. He added nothing. He was a constant annoyance. I was a little disappointed when Jirard changed the format and removed the spoilers section, but i understand his reasoning
This is really unfortunate. I'm not one of those types of people to speculate and back when Greg split I didn't really even give it much thought. I'm probably in the minority with this, but I actually liked him and his dumb humor back then. After that, The Completionist kind of felt stale and sterile. The jokes were just not there. I stayed subscribed the channel anyways and I'd occasionally watch a video. This last announcement was one of the first I've seen in a long time. It's pretty sad, man. They worked their asses off in those videos and it's a shame for them to be thrown away like that. But I've come to respect Jirard because he's actually willing to do it and willing to leave this petty shit in the past. I wish him luck in the future, and I will definitely support him by watching the channel again.
I didn't care for his humour, but I liked the set up of Jirard being the straight man and Greg being the goof. They played their parts well. Jirard's humour is more forced and doesn't come through very well. It comes off as another person trying to be JonTron. I think that sounds harsh as I reread it; I really like Jirard and his work (I like him even more after meeting him at Retropalooza). But if I am being honest, I rather enjoyed their split roles rather than Jirard juggling both.
Word, it sounds like we're in agreement. Jirard's strong point isn't his comedy and it does feel forced. You can tell that he tried to take it upon himself to be both roles and it just didn't really work out for me. Without the comedy though, the videos are just cookie-cutter youtube-standard gaming reviews so it's a big part of the channel. Man, that takes balls for Jirard to take these down though knowing he'll take a big hit financially. Takes a real man to set this stuff aside and move on. I'm glad he's not getting immature and taking to Greg over it. I'm not sure I'd have the restraint. I really respect that.
Eggo Slayer How long has it been since you watched the show? I remember feeling that the videos were lacking the great humor some time after Greg left and I eventually just stopped watching for quite awhile, but I started watching some newer videos more recently and honestly some of them are outright hilarious (Pepsi Man might be my favorite). So if it's been a long time, you might actually like some of his newer episodes.
I have no issue with Greg wanting the videos taken down. My issue, and I imagine many others are in the same boat, is that this is going on TWO years after the fact. If this was a couple of months or even a year, I could understand. I give the Bearded One credit for handling this the way he has but Greg is coming off as extremely petty.
The thing is, Greg gets 0 money from the ad revenue of the old videos, which, btw, still made money. Money that only went to Jirads pockets. Also Jirard might be a wolf in sheep's clothing, pretending to be the better one while the impulsive dude ruins himself. We don't know what happened in the background. We just have Jirards POV and a few angry tweets from Greg. So yeah, taking sides is pretty dumb.
Ya, I do find this sick myself, Jirard and Greg were once friends, it wouldn't surprise me if Jirard knew what got under Greg's skin, which would explain why he removed his twitter soon after. The frustration of dealing with an old friend that knows and is willing to exploit your weaknesses imo is something Jirard would do while acting like he's taking the high road.
Nowadays the channels which put out the most content most frequently make more money, the "freshness" of a video determines how much money a video makes and a channel makes. Old videos from 5 years ago aren't being promoted by YT algorithms anymore, so TOVG stands to boost their income in the short-term possibly even the long-term!
Watching this back years later feels kinda stupid. Like the whole fallout thing, that's what it was, there's no need to prod at it now. As Pat said though, when you personally, as yourself, willingly appear in a video creating unique footage of yourself clearly for the purposes of that video it is beyond absurd to suddenly claim you don't consent to your likeness appearing. I respect Jirad handling it how he wanted to, but obviously it's something else when Greg just doesn't respond. Weird how genuinely in-depth this entire story was compared to the shite we get today.
What I fucking love is how Jirard begged for people not to shit on Greg, even thought you literally cannot talk about Greg's actions without shitting on him.
It's kinda sad. It's like deleting all the pictures of your ex even if you are in them. you put those pictures on a disc and put them in the bottom drawer in the bedroom of your mom's house
Greg and anything he tries to be a part of is harassed by ex fans. The band he joined, his family, and many other people are being harassed by people whom apparently used to enjoy Greg. He wants everything deleted so hopefully people will forget about him and leave him alone. It's misguided and it won't work, but it's not due to animosity. There are legitimate concerns behind this move by Greg.
I liked Greg. I thought him and Jirard had great chemistry and were pretty entertaining together. After the split the completionist definitely went from less comedy to more focus on the games themselves. I liked both versions of the show honestly. But I'm glad Jirard is getting rid of the old stuff, especially after Greg showed his true colors in this way. Why destroy your own public portfolio of work you've done? Cutting off his nose to spite his face I've half a mind to say.
I don't sub to his channel and consider myself a very casual watcher at best of his videos but I do find them enjoyable. I wasn't fully aware of the situation until watching his video and reading up on it. I know what it's like to have a bad falling out with a friend, it's a shitty thing and I wish him the best moving forward. I'll be watching his videos as he re-does them to show support.
Jirard is being VERY professional about his whole thing, he has every right to be pissed at Greg over these claims. I hope he doesn't delete them rather set them to private because if he deletes them that can really fuck him over in the youtube listings because they'll delete his overall views. Changing your mind and saying, "I don't wanna be in these videos anymore" doesn't make any sense, I doubt there was any written document specifically linking Greg's likeness to projects and gives him any legal right to do this. This sounds like he'd bank on legal loopholes and bullshit reasoning to strong arm his way into this.
You know what would be amazing? If someone just makes an ultimate montage about all of Greg's appearance in all of the TOVG videos! Whether it's audio, visual, whatever, and ONLY the Greg stuff!
Greg comes off as such a petty individual in this case. Its like he waited until the "adpocolypse" happened and then wanted to fuck Jirard over at the worst possible time. Its sad honestly, I feel so bad for Jirard, I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he seems like one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet. It also takes massive guts to do what he did removing the videos, it couldve been awful, but i think he will make it but because he is just such a hard working awesome dude. I wish nothing but the best to him.
Jirard is being the bigger man here, too, even going so far as to tell everyone to go and support Greg. Good on ya, Beardman. Can't wait to see the re-dos of the older episodes.
Taking a pic with you, Pat, while in Norway was really cool. I saw Jirard there on that con, too. I never wanted to admit it to myself, but he looked very tired and drained whenever noone was at his stand and, for example, was having a conversation with him. -- I had me theories, yes, but if 'that' had really been the cause... The picture I took with him on that day is one that I treasure fondly. He is smiling in that picture, giving a thumbs up. I'm smiling with him. -- I still follow his content. He has my respect. :-)
Yeah I don't watch cinemassacre nearly as much since they kicked Bootsy off the channel with no explanation as to why. They way it reads on Bootsy's twitter feed Mike just called him up and said he wasn't part of the channel going forward. Don't know who's to blame, but nobody's saying anything about it and Mike was deleting comments left and right that were trying to discuss it which really make him look like the bad guy.
At the time I was fully against Greg asking for these videos to be removed, but years later after the charity scandal, I have to look back on this and ask why? Was Greg asking for his share of revenue from these vids and Jirard just saying no?
Greg made a long statement on Completionist 2 Reddit today about it and it was due to some shady business practices Jirrad was getting into that he couldn't get behind so he left. Ever since then Greg was painted as the bad guy but at least now he has finally been vindicated. Greg even stated he is fully prepared for a knock from law enforcement and will tell them absolutley everything to assist in any investigation against Jirrad and his family.
Totally against what jirard did, but life is not black and white I honestly think Greg is just trying to capitalize if Greg had info or evidence of these things we would show it if he had it and the fact that he hasn’t and didn’t back and won’t even today I think shows that
Jirard's videos aren't my favorite. His writing needs some work and a lot of times the jokes don't really land for me. Alex I find to be an annoyance more than anything else and his presence diminishes every video he's in. That said, though, Jirard is clearly a very nice guy who is under an enormous amount of stress and puts an insane amount of work and effort into his projects. That alone makes him worth following and supporting.
SpitefulCrow I agree. I like the new completionist videos when he JUST talks about games. But all the jokes fall flat, the skits suck and he's not very interesting. But I could see Danny Sexbang doing a one man show being just as bad and he's charming as heck. He just needs someone else to bounce off of.
What's going to be fascinating is how Greg's career will go after this. He IS in a way stabbing a fellow UA-camr (and as Pat said, several others are affected including himself) in the back by being selfish. Thankfully, Jirard is a beast, an amazing dood, and just plain nuts and will redo all of it. Coupling Jirard taking this in stride and Greg handling it like a dumpster fire in an apartment near Pompeii, I can't see the latter being taken seriously as a professional or individually in the future if he loses his current gig.
Did Greg even do anything? all I saw was him do some voice over interjecting jokes, did he edit videos or record game footage? if not he would be entitled to very little of any revenue.
Ok, so I'm a little confused. Why does Ian need to apologize? He mainly blasted Jirard for trying to pretend that he was still friends with Greg when they clearly weren't. There's no need to apologize for criticizing Jirard on that.
Honestly an agreement should have been reached with Jirad and Greg over the 120 videos. They should have worked a deal about those videos. In all , I think possibly Greg likely had it with waiting and waiting for Jirad to do something about his contributions and being paid nothing now , and finally did this to make him either A) Work a deal ... B) Remove them. And being honest wouldn't have been a better option to work something with Greg than removing all those videos and revenue ?
I'm gonna miss the Resident Evil episode of Jirard and Greg walking through the house bumping into shit. But Jirard is an absolute beast and if anyone can power through some shit like this it's him.
This is weird, the first thing I think about before having a partnership is to know what's gonna happen with everything we've done when we end our partnership or friendship. With whom you think you're more probable to have a problem with, to someone you see every month or with someone you deal everyday?.
When I read Greg's tweet, I couldn't believe how stupid his remark was. His likeness was being used without his consent? Taking part in the scripted videos IS his consent. I don't know what happened between the two, so it would be unfair for me to pick sides. But what Greg said was absolutely stupid. What Pat said about actors making movies and deciding they don't want to be represented in them anymore is a great comparison. I feel like Greg is just looking for an excuse to have himself removed from something he doesn't want to be a part of. I understand his frustration, but the way he went about it is wrong.
So the worst part of the old Completionist episodes, Greg's awful jokes, will be wiped away and replaced with updated polish and writing? Seems like a win/win
This is a huge shame. As far as I've heard, Greg was unpopular with a majority of viewers (I liked him and his dynamic with Jirard, personally) and so Jirard made the decision to let him go. What Greg's doing now seems like no less of a dick move than someone choosing business and money over friendship and working through adversity, though. I feel like maybe I don't have the full story or something? Is there more to this? I mean, if I worked hard with my best friend to build his brand, and he decided to oust me because he'd rather appeal to the whiny majority than stick with carving out a niche of genuine fans, I'd immediately want any and all of my involvement removed and nullified. Not in a bitter way or anything, but it would feel unfair to me to be told "you're the reason I'm not making more money so you have to go, but I'm keeping all the stuff you did for me so I can still make money off of the people who liked you." But, again, am I missing something here? If so, could someone point me toward some solid info? Jirard is on my list of people who I am going to reach out to one day when I start my own enterprise, so I have a legitimate vested interest beyond just drama BS.
You can't change your mind like that? Like he allowed these episodes to be uploaded with him in it initially and you can't just decided "Nah I don't wanna be in there anymore"! If everyone could do this... this thing with consent would be just not important anymore... this just doesn't make any sense to me
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Pat the NES Punk im one to say im concern he said he going to recomplete games again to esensailty making the videos before pointless
Meh. Haven't watched him in a long time. Now he is basically going to "redo" the videos..
Pat the NES Punk I think it's petty that they couldn't work things out and I feel bad for Gerrard and hope he rebounds fully
Pat the NES Punk Greg went crazy and Jirard let em go, much like how someone gets kicked out of a band, now Gregs coming back for revenge and $$
Pat the NES Punk Greg and anything he tries to be a part of is harassed by ex fans. The band he joined, his family, and many other people are being harassed by people whom apparently used to enjoy Greg. He wants everything deleted so hopefully people will forget about him and leave him alone. It's misguided and it won't work, but it's not due to animosity. There are legitimate concerns behind this move by Greg.
Pat - Please don't ever fall out with Frank!
Iain Dalby yeah, fallout with ian instead
3 months later ode to ian is uploaded
me - no!!!!
I've just started watching this clip, but good for Ian to quickly talk about being wrong about that earlier video. Being able to admit when one is wrong is a great characteristic.
he talks about stuff he is misinformed about all the time only saying he is wrong now because he knows one of them personally now
Channing King Ian's really great about stuff like that. He's not shy or proud enough to dig in his heels on small or large issues and freely admit when he's changed his mind or come across new information. I have a lot of respect for him because of that.
I thought I was wrong once, but it turns out I was just mistaken.
Hes always been a jackass like that.
Greg shouldn't be able to enforce the removal Given his implied consent was there when the videos were made
Greg didn't force him to do this. Jirard did this of his own free will.
Did you miss the legal threat?
In Jirard most recent video, he stated that he reached out to Greg about removing the videos and that Greg did not respond. He decided to remove them anyway.
Greg was pressuring him to do it, even threatening legal action. Jirard decided to take them down rather than fight it. A move that shows a lot of character IMO, and I imagine if I was in his spot I wouldn't want my channel to be associated with someone who is going to act like that anyway, so good riddance to Greg.
Please go back and listen to me reciting the *threat of legal action from Greg if he did not remove the videos*.
Gonna download the videos, burn on a disc and sell at Ebay, so I can appear on "Scumbag Seller of the Week" \o/
André Pinheiro this guy for the win
different prices for different resolutions, 5.99 for 240p, 9.99 for 480p, 14.99 for 1080p60 XD
Heyoooo!
Hope you actually follow through
André Pinheiro good idea hahahha
The Completionist is fucking nuts, 6 reviews in a month all of which are based on 100%ing a game
I don't understand how he even does 4 a month!
Dude is overworked as is. I have no idea how he's going to do this unless he puts a bunch of these as Beard Bros series
But Angry Joe needs a break 'cause 1 game review a month is too straining
This was his idea.He could just get rid of all the videos.But he didn't. He know what this job takes from him.I hope he will get like 4 month break after that.But think about all the NEW subscribers he will pick up over this new remake period.He upload more frequently then any NB content maker.Think of how much good reputation his channels will get.
Even though I watch his videos every now and then, I just hope he doesn't have a stroke from all the stress of all the re:reviews.
Greg's argument makes absolutely no sense. He wasn't forced by gunpoint to appear in 120 videos. Obviously if he consented to be in all those videos then he gave consent. He is not even using the term likeness in the right way. It's not like someone using a picture of LeBron James advertising their product without permission. He was in the video of his own free will.
and he was paid that was his job
so greg went to lawyer and the lawyer had to take his case with a straight face. he had to watch all the episodes and legally defend his silly voices.
kasatania lol 😂 in the lawyers mind "if they could make a case about OJ Simpsons glove I'm sure I do do something with crap"
And actually take on a case requiring him to state Greg didn’t agree to be in the videos
Greg could've let sleeping dogs lie, but no.
He comes back after one-and-a-half years and NOW demands that those videos featuring him be removed. EVERY video, not just Completionist episodes. I find that suspect...
This is going to make a lot of UA-camrs bringing waivers when filming at conventions. Insane.
Little did you know I will film a video of these comments and your likeness in your avatar will be locked onto my channel forever! Your Waiver cannot help you now! haha! Jokes aside just goes to show how inane Greg's demand is.
They should. People make good money from UA-cam. If television and film needs waivers, why not UA-cam?
Pat, I liked the completionist episode you were in. Downloaded it for later viewing!
All of these years later and Greg is golden but Jirard is a con man. How times have changed.
it was petty of greg to want the videos gone imo.
I used to find it hard to even get through the episodes with Greg in...
Foreal bro.
He was so annoying.
ChemicalTerror I also find them to be not very enjoyable. I prefer the newer episodes.
His sense of humor was pretty terrible. Granted Jirard's humor isn't the best either, but is fall less obnoxious. I think the videos have generally gotten better without Greg.
ChemicalTerror I was glad when Greg left. The Bear jokes were getting so dumb I was 3 seconds from strangling him
Well, Now that we know what crap Jirrad was up to you have to wonder if Greg was actually being tempermental or he knew a side of Jirard that nobody saw publicly at the time. Horrific whiplash from the last couple of days.
I have a brilliant idea.
Imagine this podcast exactly as it is only it's in three parts. One part has only Pat. One part has only Ian. The third part has everything else. The room, the pictures, the sound effects, that's all in the third part.
You can choose exactly which part you want to experience.
Pat should remove Pat from the channel. (not really)
I applaud Ian for trying to maintain the CUPodcast schedule while in such obvious internal pain. I'll admit that I missed some details as to what exactly it is he's going through, but even any empathetic first time watcher could see the pain 'the long haired dude' is in. The point of this post is this: if you don't want to do this Ian, for whatever reason (or even Pat if you feel the need to stop), then just simply stop. You don't owe us anything. With that said, thanks and stay healthy in all aspects of life.
Wherever this Greg fellow is now, on behalf of everyone on the internet that bad-mouthed you, they APOLOGIZE
BEARS!!! I'm sorry, just one last time.
I couldn't rewatch those videos knowing how things turned out.
Stay friends forever Pat and Ian, I love your energy together!
It'd be amazing if the remakes are just the old videos with Alex's jpeg face pasted over Greg any time he appears and voiced over to say "Alex" anytime you hear the name Greg
That would be like if Jon was like I want you to delete every Game Grumps video with me in it or I'm going to sue it's just pure stupidity
This series should be named the mostly UA-cam drama podcast.
The breakfast buffet comments are why I listen to the podcast.
should have called the bluff. If you willingly appear on a show 120 times you are clearly showing consent to have said shows shown and posted.
ahh yes because being best buds and co-owner of the channel means nothing when your best friend kicks you out after you get married lies about how amical your"departure" is then sicks his fans on you for 6+ Months you ave the gall to say can you just remove this about me on your channel and stop profiting off of our work its so "Dickish" of him Then you exbestbud sick his fans on you in the final month of a deadline you set months in advance WITHOUT USING THE DMCA Process on youtube and RUINING you EXFreinds channel after he kicked you out and refused to share money earned on those videos you worked on with him. Remind me again why Jirad is such a great person again because he sounds like a slimy leech.
Lol biased much... You have no clue what you are talking about.
You know those so called fans came to his video on their own will right? It's not like Jirard ever said "Go to his video and make a mess there." It's pretty much just angry fans doing things on their own accord. Hell, his announcement video actually called for fans NOT to go to Greg channel and make things worse. But surprise surprise people actually did that.
I wish he'd called Greg's bluff to be honest... I'm sure for him a permanent split will ease his mind, but Greg has turned out to be such an asshole that I'd love to see him be forced to back down.
I tried watching some of the early episodes after Jirard's vid, but it's now impossible to enjoy while knowing what a tool Greg turned out to be.
"I'm sure for him a permanent split will ease his mind"
It seems to me that's the only reason he's doing this. Jirard said he's in the right legally to keep the videos up. He could even go halfway and re-edit the videos to remove Greg. But he wants to completely clear the slate, even though the added workload is insane. Jirard strikes me as an emotional man, so wanting to completely purge those painful memories doesn't surprise me. But at the cost of potentially burning yourself out? I really wish he'd look at this from a physical viewpoint instead of an emotional one...
It's a smart move in the long run, it totally ruins Greg's reputation.
And hiring lawyers to handle this would cost a lptnpf money even if victory is in the bag going into it.
ValensBellator I agree, but then I thought about it through his shoes and I wouldn't want that ass hole on my channel at all after that shit. I would much rather redo the videos than have him still around in some way
i wish jirad called the bluff and got sued to hell he is a horrible person.
My respect for Jirad is up x100. Even if he doesn't pull it off perfectly, this is rare dedication and I want to back that up.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the Completionist episodes past 120 have been better than the episodes leading up to 120.
I felt Greg's humor started to become extremely forced as time went on, especially with the song breaks in the middle of the episodes that had nothing to do with anything.
For example, the Assassin's Creed II video. Those song breaks killed the flow of the review.
Or the jokes with the calls in the Dead Rising review. It killed the flow.
With Greg gone, there's still jokes, but they don't take long and it doesn't kill the review flow.
So in a way, I'm glad episodes 1-120 are being remade, but I hope Jirard doesn't die from 100%ing 6 games a month.
I don't mind that he's redoing the episodes. Honestly, I find Greg irritable and cannot stand watching the older episodes of both Completionist and Beard Bros.
Duke Spubber I actually liked the stupid dorky thing that they had ... I actually unsubbed when that started happening but I just resubbed after watching this video
Duke Spubber They did a video where Girard, Greg and Alex from the Dex each played a version of Gen 1 Pokémon. That one was pretty hilarious.
i havent watched a Greg video since 2015. now i definitely wont ever
Did he say he was redoing them? I thought he was just moving on.
Yep. He's redoing all 120 episodes as well as the Super Bear Bros. playthoughs, including Wild Arms.
He'll be increasing his workload to 6 reviews a month because of this, along with one Defend It! episode a month since that goal was reached on Patreon.
I was happy when Greg left. He added nothing. He was a constant annoyance. I was a little disappointed when Jirard changed the format and removed the spoilers section, but i understand his reasoning
And this is why I have EVERYONE sign a waiver of ownership for my own podcast.
Ian: "I really owed Jirrad an apology"
No Ian, you 100% do not.
Greg deleted his twitter account. He may have reopened it again as someone named John Manos.
This is really unfortunate. I'm not one of those types of people to speculate and back when Greg split I didn't really even give it much thought. I'm probably in the minority with this, but I actually liked him and his dumb humor back then. After that, The Completionist kind of felt stale and sterile. The jokes were just not there. I stayed subscribed the channel anyways and I'd occasionally watch a video. This last announcement was one of the first I've seen in a long time. It's pretty sad, man. They worked their asses off in those videos and it's a shame for them to be thrown away like that. But I've come to respect Jirard because he's actually willing to do it and willing to leave this petty shit in the past. I wish him luck in the future, and I will definitely support him by watching the channel again.
I didn't care for his humour, but I liked the set up of Jirard being the straight man and Greg being the goof. They played their parts well. Jirard's humour is more forced and doesn't come through very well. It comes off as another person trying to be JonTron. I think that sounds harsh as I reread it; I really like Jirard and his work (I like him even more after meeting him at Retropalooza). But if I am being honest, I rather enjoyed their split roles rather than Jirard juggling both.
Word, it sounds like we're in agreement. Jirard's strong point isn't his comedy and it does feel forced. You can tell that he tried to take it upon himself to be both roles and it just didn't really work out for me. Without the comedy though, the videos are just cookie-cutter youtube-standard gaming reviews so it's a big part of the channel. Man, that takes balls for Jirard to take these down though knowing he'll take a big hit financially. Takes a real man to set this stuff aside and move on. I'm glad he's not getting immature and taking to Greg over it. I'm not sure I'd have the restraint. I really respect that.
Eggo Slayer: I feel exactly the same. Salute!
You just said what I exactly thought about the situation
Eggo Slayer How long has it been since you watched the show? I remember feeling that the videos were lacking the great humor some time after Greg left and I eventually just stopped watching for quite awhile, but I started watching some newer videos more recently and honestly some of them are outright hilarious (Pepsi Man might be my favorite). So if it's been a long time, you might actually like some of his newer episodes.
I can’t believe he did all the new episodes + new old episodes and COMPLETING PERSONA 5 WITH ALL LOVE INTEREST!
Don't worry Pat, I'm pretty sure Jirard will call you again for that renewed Castlevania video.
This is why I download UA-cam videos I like and store them locally!
I have no issue with Greg wanting the videos taken down. My issue, and I imagine many others are in the same boat, is that this is going on TWO years after the fact. If this was a couple of months or even a year, I could understand. I give the Bearded One credit for handling this the way he has but Greg is coming off as extremely petty.
The thing is, Greg gets 0 money from the ad revenue of the old videos, which, btw, still made money. Money that only went to Jirads pockets.
Also Jirard might be a wolf in sheep's clothing, pretending to be the better one while the impulsive dude ruins himself. We don't know what happened in the background. We just have Jirards POV and a few angry tweets from Greg. So yeah, taking sides is pretty dumb.
Ya, I do find this sick myself, Jirard and Greg were once friends, it wouldn't surprise me if Jirard knew what got under Greg's skin, which would explain why he removed his twitter soon after. The frustration of dealing with an old friend that knows and is willing to exploit your weaknesses imo is something Jirard would do while acting like he's taking the high road.
It doesn't go to just Jirard's pockets, it goes to all the employees of "That One Video Gamer" It's not just one person's livelihood on the line here.
Nowadays the channels which put out the most content most frequently make more money, the "freshness" of a video determines how much money a video makes and a channel makes. Old videos from 5 years ago aren't being promoted by YT algorithms anymore, so TOVG stands to boost their income in the short-term possibly even the long-term!
Shoutout to the hardest working creator on YT. Jirard is a madman. Good luck to him!
Watching this back years later feels kinda stupid. Like the whole fallout thing, that's what it was, there's no need to prod at it now. As Pat said though, when you personally, as yourself, willingly appear in a video creating unique footage of yourself clearly for the purposes of that video it is beyond absurd to suddenly claim you don't consent to your likeness appearing. I respect Jirad handling it how he wanted to, but obviously it's something else when Greg just doesn't respond. Weird how genuinely in-depth this entire story was compared to the shite we get today.
"you don't wanna drink warm tecate" --ian ferguson 2017
*QUICK, HURRY! SOMEONE REUPLOAD HIS CONTENT!*
this is complete BS the completionist should fight this and all of us support him
StormGamingHD he said in the video that he wouldn't even though he knows
I love that one of the days I saw Ian at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo, he had a 40oz for breakfast.
What I fucking love is how Jirard begged for people not to shit on Greg, even thought you literally cannot talk about Greg's actions without shitting on him.
THAT DOESN'T LEAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR THE BREAKFAST BUFFET, IAN
It's kinda sad. It's like deleting all the pictures of your ex even if you are in them. you put those pictures on a disc and put them in the bottom drawer in the bedroom of your mom's house
Greg and anything he tries to be a part of is harassed by ex fans. The band he joined, his family, and many other people are being harassed by people whom apparently used to enjoy Greg. He wants everything deleted so hopefully people will forget about him and leave him alone. It's misguided and it won't work, but it's not due to animosity. There are legitimate concerns behind this move by Greg.
Streisand effect says hi.
Yeah, you sound simple alright
If that were true then he wouldn't have created his own channel. Not that it matters, he hasn't uploaded within a year
is there that you guys can just release full episodes of this podcast on to UA-cam
I liked Greg. I thought him and Jirard had great chemistry and were pretty entertaining together. After the split the completionist definitely went from less comedy to more focus on the games themselves.
I liked both versions of the show honestly. But I'm glad Jirard is getting rid of the old stuff, especially after Greg showed his true colors in this way. Why destroy your own public portfolio of work you've done? Cutting off his nose to spite his face I've half a mind to say.
I don't sub to his channel and consider myself a very casual watcher at best of his videos but I do find them enjoyable. I wasn't fully aware of the situation until watching his video and reading up on it. I know what it's like to have a bad falling out with a friend, it's a shitty thing and I wish him the best moving forward. I'll be watching his videos as he re-does them to show support.
Jirard is being VERY professional about his whole thing, he has every right to be pissed at Greg over these claims. I hope he doesn't delete them rather set them to private because if he deletes them that can really fuck him over in the youtube listings because they'll delete his overall views.
Changing your mind and saying, "I don't wanna be in these videos anymore" doesn't make any sense, I doubt there was any written document specifically linking Greg's likeness to projects and gives him any legal right to do this. This sounds like he'd bank on legal loopholes and bullshit reasoning to strong arm his way into this.
Such a shame Greg had to go down that route. He was one of many UA-cam personalities I identified with especially after watching the episode of Why We
Looks like Greg was a good judge of character considering recent events eh ?
Would you be down for being in the remake of the castlevania episode?
You know what would be amazing? If someone just makes an ultimate montage about all of Greg's appearance in all of the TOVG videos! Whether it's audio, visual, whatever, and ONLY the Greg stuff!
I just hope he can get the guest stars back for episodes, like Dodger in Alladin, Pat in Castlevania, etc. Those were usually my favorite episodes.
Greg comes off as such a petty individual in this case. Its like he waited until the "adpocolypse" happened and then wanted to fuck Jirard over at the worst possible time. Its sad honestly, I feel so bad for Jirard, I was lucky enough to meet him once, and he seems like one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet. It also takes massive guts to do what he did removing the videos, it couldve been awful, but i think he will make it but because he is just such a hard working awesome dude. I wish nothing but the best to him.
Jirard is being the bigger man here, too, even going so far as to tell everyone to go and support Greg. Good on ya, Beardman. Can't wait to see the re-dos of the older episodes.
I love Ian's character on your original show AND your podcast- I hope he never leaves.
Taking a pic with you, Pat, while in Norway was really cool.
I saw Jirard there on that con, too. I never wanted to admit it to myself, but he looked very tired and drained whenever noone was at his stand and, for example, was having a conversation with him. -- I had me theories, yes, but if 'that' had really been the cause...
The picture I took with him on that day is one that I treasure fondly. He is smiling in that picture, giving a thumbs up. I'm smiling with him. -- I still follow his content. He has my respect. :-)
Jirard is one of the best I have ever seen with his fans. Thanks for coming out!
I like your videos because of your passion for what you do more than the actual content lol. Keep up the awesome positive attitude man!
I feel like Gerard is going to burn himself out from working overtime on his plans to redue all 120 videos. I hope he succeeds.
Yeah I don't watch cinemassacre nearly as much since they kicked Bootsy off the channel with no explanation as to why. They way it reads on Bootsy's twitter feed Mike just called him up and said he wasn't part of the channel going forward. Don't know who's to blame, but nobody's saying anything about it and Mike was deleting comments left and right that were trying to discuss it which really make him look like the bad guy.
That roommate bit at the end is fucking great.
At the time I was fully against Greg asking for these videos to be removed, but years later after the charity scandal, I have to look back on this and ask why? Was Greg asking for his share of revenue from these vids and Jirard just saying no?
Greg made a long statement on Completionist 2 Reddit today about it and it was due to some shady business practices Jirrad was getting into that he couldn't get behind so he left. Ever since then Greg was painted as the bad guy but at least now he has finally been vindicated.
Greg even stated he is fully prepared for a knock from law enforcement and will tell them absolutley everything to assist in any investigation against Jirrad and his family.
Totally against what jirard did, but life is not black and white I honestly think Greg is just trying to capitalize if Greg had info or evidence of these things we would show it if he had it and the fact that he hasn’t and didn’t back and won’t even today I think shows that
I find this very suspicious that Greg just happened to do this during the whole "UA-cam adpocolypse" thing.
I'm worried that doing 6 videos a month is going to burn him out.
At least we all know other people will be reuploading those videoes
Jirard's videos aren't my favorite. His writing needs some work and a lot of times the jokes don't really land for me. Alex I find to be an annoyance more than anything else and his presence diminishes every video he's in. That said, though, Jirard is clearly a very nice guy who is under an enormous amount of stress and puts an insane amount of work and effort into his projects. That alone makes him worth following and supporting.
Complicated huh.
SpitefulCrow I agree. I like the new completionist videos when he JUST talks about games. But all the jokes fall flat, the skits suck and he's not very interesting.
But I could see Danny Sexbang doing a one man show being just as bad and he's charming as heck. He just needs someone else to bounce off of.
I didnt even know completionist had other "regular" guy than the bearded man
20 likes and I will burn my old shorts with Greg on them.
A bar and a beer it's Ian's secret 😂
"You don't drink warm Tecate." truer words have never been spoken.
"You don't drink warm Tecate" Great quote, Ian! I'll drink to that. Greetings from Mexico :D
Completionist completely wipes former cohost from Completing Show
What's going to be fascinating is how Greg's career will go after this. He IS in a way stabbing a fellow UA-camr (and as Pat said, several others are affected including himself) in the back by being selfish. Thankfully, Jirard is a beast, an amazing dood, and just plain nuts and will redo all of it.
Coupling Jirard taking this in stride and Greg handling it like a dumpster fire in an apartment near Pompeii, I can't see the latter being taken seriously as a professional or individually in the future if he loses his current gig.
Did Greg even do anything? all I saw was him do some voice over interjecting jokes, did he edit videos or record game footage? if not he would be entitled to very little of any revenue.
Ian now I wanna see you and Pat play Edward 40-hands at a convention.
if jirard still has the premiere files and audio like alot of youtubers still do, then redoing them will be easy depending on how far he goes
Ok, so I'm a little confused. Why does Ian need to apologize? He mainly blasted Jirard for trying to pretend that he was still friends with Greg when they clearly weren't. There's no need to apologize for criticizing Jirard on that.
Maaan i'm gonna miss "but beardman!" jokes, too bad they can't get together anymore. Still lovin the show tho.
Honestly an agreement should have been reached with Jirad and Greg over the 120 videos. They should have worked a deal about those videos. In all , I think possibly Greg likely had it with waiting and waiting for Jirad to do something about his contributions and being paid nothing now , and finally did this to make him either A) Work a deal ... B) Remove them. And being honest wouldn't have been a better option to work something with Greg than removing all those videos and revenue ?
I'm gonna miss the Resident Evil episode of Jirard and Greg walking through the house bumping into shit. But Jirard is an absolute beast and if anyone can power through some shit like this it's him.
No videos with Greg in them? The channel is suddenly much more tolerable to leave on autoplay.
Yeah, after 2.5 years, Greg asks for this...really shows his character...
This is weird, the first thing I think about before having a partnership is to know what's gonna happen with everything we've done when we end our partnership or friendship.
With whom you think you're more probable to have a problem with, to someone you see every month or with someone you deal everyday?.
When I read Greg's tweet, I couldn't believe how stupid his remark was. His likeness was being used without his consent? Taking part in the scripted videos IS his consent. I don't know what happened between the two, so it would be unfair for me to pick sides. But what Greg said was absolutely stupid. What Pat said about actors making movies and deciding they don't want to be represented in them anymore is a great comparison.
I feel like Greg is just looking for an excuse to have himself removed from something he doesn't want to be a part of. I understand his frustration, but the way he went about it is wrong.
I fully support Ian's decision. You don't let a beer go warm.
So the worst part of the old Completionist episodes, Greg's awful jokes, will be wiped away and replaced with updated polish and writing? Seems like a win/win
Can we get pat on the castlevania remake?
I would be so upset if Pat or Ian tried to do this to the other. But none of them are petty. So I think they'd be good.
I'm watching through all of his videos from the start again before they're gone. Currently on episode 105, Skyrim
Any chance you could get Greg on the podcast? Would love to hear his side.
This is a huge shame. As far as I've heard, Greg was unpopular with a majority of viewers (I liked him and his dynamic with Jirard, personally) and so Jirard made the decision to let him go. What Greg's doing now seems like no less of a dick move than someone choosing business and money over friendship and working through adversity, though. I feel like maybe I don't have the full story or something? Is there more to this? I mean, if I worked hard with my best friend to build his brand, and he decided to oust me because he'd rather appeal to the whiny majority than stick with carving out a niche of genuine fans, I'd immediately want any and all of my involvement removed and nullified. Not in a bitter way or anything, but it would feel unfair to me to be told "you're the reason I'm not making more money so you have to go, but I'm keeping all the stuff you did for me so I can still make money off of the people who liked you." But, again, am I missing something here? If so, could someone point me toward some solid info? Jirard is on my list of people who I am going to reach out to one day when I start my own enterprise, so I have a legitimate vested interest beyond just drama BS.
You can't change your mind like that? Like he allowed these episodes to be uploaded with him in it initially and you can't just decided "Nah I don't wanna be in there anymore"! If everyone could do this... this thing with consent would be just not important anymore... this just doesn't make any sense to me
it's always about you Pat. Some things will never change...
No buffets, and no warm beer. A man's gotta have standards.
My new fav podcast, thanks guys.