@@dublethetruble4620 Why does your relatable comment about being related to their relatable comment about being related to op's relatable comment have to be so relatable ??
Yes, but he didn’t mention the playability of the instrument as a factor. That’s why it’s recommended to get an expensive amp if you’re gigging and an expensive guitar if you play at home mostly
@@poisof457 Okay send over the circuit for a chorus pedal with a CAD file of the housing. Why waste hours of time for likely a shitty tone when I can buy a used one for 80$.
@@natasa04tsats15i mean, just have 1 distortion pedal, ovedrive, equalizer, compressor, chorus, reverb and delay and you will sound like fucking alex lifeson
@@jess_n_atx Its kinda hard to watch how you struggle understanding that people have a subjective opinion to how they express; your comment only makes it evident how your way of thinking is petty. So unfortunate…
A common choice among the time traveling space demons of the planet Blorbidale, didnt realize it was gaining popularity on earth, thats great to hear 😄👌👏💞
Absolutely, my best suggestion for those starting out in electric guitar is to skip the cheaper amps, even if you have to save up for a bit, start out with a good amp, you can buy a used blues junior, pro jr, Roland jc40, blues deluxe or a vox ac15 for around $350-500 especially if you check local listings. Eventually you might want a Princeton, deluxe reverb, twin, ac30, tweed Bassman or something with higher headroom or fancier build whatnot. Yet those amps I had mentioned in the $350-500 range will sound remarkably better than anything in the $100-300 range 9/10. I’d also implore you to invest similar money at minimum into your first electric. The following guitars are recommended and can be found new or used in the $350-500 range: Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster, anything in the Squier Classic vibe range, Epiphone dot, danelectro models, used grestch models, most of the used Epiphone les Paul’s in that price range will work well too. The more you invest into your starter gear, the more inclined you will be to practice.
Exactly, check out this video I made with the same cheap amp he is using. Tone is affected by everything, but in the end it is mostly up to your hands and fingers. ua-cam.com/users/shortsX4PJ_8qAqw8?si=Kr228_Q0lEFi-4I_
If your guitar: -stays in tune after bends -has moderate action -doesn't cut you when you slide -has frets that aren't super high Then it's good enough. On the other hand, what you really want in a guitar is: -9 strings -multi-scale fanned frets -kill switch -single-coil and Humbucker toggle -whammy bar -locking tuners -volume knob that actually gradually changes volume
As a bassist, as long as your instrument is comfortable and has a decent tone (which isn’t too hard to find under $400) you can use it well, and for a long time too. Investing in a good amp can both help you shape your tone more than a good guitar, and you also won’t have to upgrade if you ever need to play in a large place. I play a sbmm ray4 (you can probably grab one used for around $300)through an acoustic 370/301 stack, and I gotta say, it can do anything.
It took me years to learn that good amps are the key to good tone. I had owned 3 usa strats & a les paul before I learned this though. Now I always put more emphasis on my amps & take a diff approach with my guitars
Amps, pickups, and strings. If those 3 things are good then it doesn’t matter if your guitar is $50, or $17,000, if the frets are measured out correctly, and you have those 3 things, it’ll sound awesome and people would struggle telling the difference from just hearing
@@erikmorgan7059 fair point. All of this still builds on the foundation tho, having an expensive guitar isn’t what makes great sound, it’s having equipment. It’s so much nicer knowing I can buy a crappy $200 warlock, as opposed to feeling entitled to pay $4000 for one that’ll sound the exact same
If you’re worried about tone, spend more of your budget on an amp. If you want to play live, this is the way to go, how you sound is everything. But if you’re just jamming at home, invest more in your guitar. How it plays is more important if it’s just for you.
It is imperative to possess a high-quality instrument, as an inferior one will inevitably compromise the quality of your performance, regardless of the amplification employed. Amps don't matter as long as you crank it up! ✌️
I longed for a "real" guitar and amp for years. You've just got to get your priorities straight and really try. Save $10 a week. Ten bucks, and DON'T TOUCH IT. In a year you'll be surprised at what you can buy.
@@chriskibodeaux9818the real crazy difference comes from the speakers and cabinet size. if you use a tiny combo amp with shitty speakers, it's gonna sound worse than a tiny amp head hooked up to a large cab with v30s or another nice set of speakers
An expensive guitar can only really shine to the fullest with an expensive amp, so best to buy a good, affordable guitar and pair it with a quality amo
So true for the amp. I got a PRS CE (middle of the line, but still a Very NICE and expensive guitar) and played it with my cheapo solid state amp and i had no desire to play that guitar again. Then I plugged in my PRS SE Custom 24 (entry level, but still very nice) guitar into a restored fender tweed amp. Holy friggin schnikeys. I didn't want to out my guitar down.
People who have this argument completely miss the fact people are buying gear for different reasons. If you have no intention of gigging you should get the nice guitar for more fun practicing. If you intend to gig get the more expensive amp for the better sound. To argue one decision is better than the other with no context is completely insane.
While your reasoning is most definitely true to most senses, "I" have personally found the best route would be more expensive amplifier over guitar due to (sounding) better/closer ro what you wanna play will continue your endeavors. Either way, its up to the players preference and budget🤘🏻
Good amp and comfortable feeling guitar is my go to. It's not so much about about expensive because you can find random gems in something like a squire in how the strings feel on your fret hand. Combine that with your amp and the money you saved to upgrade your pickups and you're in business
First choose the tone you are after. Look at what the artist are playing in that style and then buy the best guitar you can that fits that sound. Then you can plug that thing into anything from a practice amp, amp sim pedal to a full rig and it will sound good. For me, an Electromatic Gretsch, tape delay pedal into a vox ac10 or fender Princeton is the sound.
honestly, expensive amp is better bc not only does it give u good sounds on ur guitar then, but when u get a new one ur guitar is gonna sound just as good or better!
You can’t make a fender practice amp sound good unless you turn your tone knob all the way down lol, and then it still doesn’t sound good just bearable
Your best investment in terms of guitar tone is always going to be your speaker cabinet. The other stuff only really changes your tone slightly, but a good cab will blow you away.
The best investment in terms of your tone is always going to be to learn to play better. Check out this video I made with this exact same cheap amp and then tell me you cannot get an amazing tone with a cheap amp. ua-cam.com/users/shortsX4PJ_8qAqw8?si=Kr228_Q0lEFi-4I_
How about something in between? An Epiphone LP and a boss katana amp make for a great combo for example. At the end of the day it depends on the guitarist themselves. Just have fun playing
I feel a nicer guitar is my preference. It plays smoother, stays in tune, and like he said encourages more play time. You can make a cheaper amp sound awesome with a few pedals.
Why would someone pay $2,000 for their Marshall amp setup if they could tweak their settings on their $75 pawn shop line 6 10 watt practice amp and get a great tone? You get what you pay for. My current setup is a 100 watt boss katana solid state amp and a synyster gates custom. Tone for me is fantastic when compared to my old setup Line 6 10 watt practice amp and a $150 harmony starter guitar.
@@justinbowen1183 you would def start to notice the difference when you have better gear. But sometimes its good not to have and extract the best out of it. I've made excellent tones with a Boss ME25 and a fender Mustang amp when I was a kid
@@pedrosilvaproductions you can get some fantastic tones out of a cheaper amp. For the longest time my go to amp was a line 6 spider amp. I have been playing for 16 years and about 10 of those were spent using that amp. I also for recording would hook a quarter inch to 8th inch adapter into the headphone port of the amp onthe front and run an auxiliary cord to the microphone port of my amp and for the longest time that was how I recorded my stuff. I didnt switch over to an all digital setup until maybe 5 or so years ago. The thing I was hurting for the most man was being able to hardcore fine tune the exact sound I wanted so you could probably imagine how insanely cool it was when I found out that the katana amp before I bought I had a USB out specifically for recording an all digital signal as well as an entire application for fine tuning my tone exactly how I wanted. When I got married my grandfather asked if there was anything I really wanted in life as a wedding gift that was just for me myself. I showed him this amp and he played long ago in the 70's and after explaining what all it could do he bought it for me $500 and it has been extremely good to me since day 1 after I figured out how everything worked.
i feel like this isn’t a very fair comparison. don’t get me wrong, he’s still absolutely right, an expensive amp can turn any guitar into a beauty to listen to, but the tones are fundamentally different. the cheap amp is much more mid focused, while the second one is much more balanced. expensive amp is still clearly more detailed though. i also have to add, tones are tools to get a desired feeling. that cheap amp didn’t have a stereotypically great tone, but it had a kind of feeling that was very unique, almost nostalgic. the thing is though, you can make an expensive amp sound like that if you wanted to, but it’s much harder (not impossible) to make a cheaper amp sound expensive.
@@defaultdan7923 The thing is, the amp provides a eq filter that might sound good or not, but over time your ears kinda adjust to that filter and reveal the underlying tone of the guitar, by which time the expensive amp + cheap guitar.. sounds like a cheap guitar!
I concur, a good amp and a cheaper guitar work well. Especially with a good pedal board and/or amp modeling pedal. It helps to have a good assortment of guitars for different tones. You can do it all with one guitar, an HSH strat with coil splitting.
Expensive amp always wins. I know people argue about an expensive guitar having better feel, but i really think theres a feel to an expensive amp as well. It squishes and compresses and feedbacks and has its own feel, which imo makes me want to play more often.
played every modular out there and guitars are a dime a dozen but it's always been the tube amp for me... I come back to tube amps every time for whatever situation anymore. some of theses 5 ampers sound fantastic and there's a pedal for EVERY scenario your drummer can think of ... I bought a boutique direct box that goes from the sound stage to the moon.. pedals will be your next drug of choice ... rehab comes later.. good luck!
Wood of the guitar is mostly aesthetic. It could effect sustain but I would argue most modern guitars sustain just fine regardless. Action is incredibly important for how you feel playing it. The tone is primarily only changed by the amp and pickups, though having nice cables can help prevent interference in your signal chain. Wood shouldn’t even be on your list except for aesthetic reasons, it can make a difference if you just want a pretty-looking guitar to feel good playing it but there’s a lot of proof that it doesn’t effect tone.
@@elwolf8536 the instrument can only make a sound so loud. Everything from the pickup magnet onward affect the sound more than before because it changes the character of the signal along the way whereas the strings/wood do this to a lesser degree.
What also adds fire to the mix is that you can use software to be your amp. You cant obviously use that live but if you already had a good pc set up and speakers you cpuld just plug in and not worry about the amp.
OK hands-down you're correct. The ONLY reason I would choose the opposite. If it's for a new guitar player who can invest in a good guitar to learn. Then I could see that.
Pickups don’t make much of a difference. Of course the types of pickups sound different, but like quality doesn’t mean much. Speakers do make a huge difference, though
Amps pedals and guitar. Whichever order you find yourself attaining that is subject to taste. But the good amp is a good starting point and then tweak the sound. Actually the number one thing you have to get especially in a musical setting is the right people to play with that inspire and ultimately give a better understanding.
If you have a cheap guitar that FEELS good, then upgrade your amp first. And absolutely, you'll get results like this. But that's the trick. Finding a guitar that feels good for you through an amp that feels good is the real thing.
You don’t need an expensive amp, you just need a good one. Harley Benton sells a 2x12 cab loaded with Creambacks, and you can get second hand heads for relatively cheap.
Effects pedals can make up for any other lacking equipment. Just go with what you can afford and is comfortable. I see so many new guitar players waste so much money on "pro" gear and then have no idea how to find decent sound quality. You can find cheap equipment that will get you a similar sound to expensive stuff.
Exactly my experience. My made in Fullerton MFD-equipped G&L sounds ridiculously good through my €50,- / 20w transistor amp. If I plug it into my DeltaBlues (30w tube) it shines of course, but with the small transistor amp it's almost already there. A great guitar over an expensive amp ANYDAY. (That said I want a Friedman or Revv so bad LOL 🤪)
eh its not about price but about sound. not guaranteed that an amp just because its more expensive than another amp will sound better to you. you have to test amps and guitars and find what fits you and turn a blind eye on that damn price tag. in my opinion of course.
@@benireges Well, its not a matter of a $200 amp versus a several thousand dollar amp. It's a matter of buying an amp that isn't objectively shitty like a free 5W amp you get with your first guitar. I have a few amps that would now probably sell for way more than they are worth, but I've paid $150-$200 for an amp that could out-do any Marshall if given the right toned speaker cab. I've paid $75 for a combo that is better than most other combos in my opinion. So I dont disagree, its not about how much you pay, as long as its decent. That's why I said middle of the road. The middle of the road doesn't mean the middle of the price range
You see, the cheap guitar and expensive amp are the *head* option, while the expensive guitar and cheap amp are the *heart* option. While it makes more sense to go for the amp, this won't make you feel like a rock star, but a nice guitar will. At the end of the day, we are guitarists. We have an inherent need to attract attention, and a shiny guitar attracts far more attention than some bulky box in the background, for which 95% of people don't hear the difference. Of these, there are 99% who don't even know what the typical amp settings do, but they know a fancy guitar when they see it.
I have that same fender champ 20. It honestly isnt too bad if you put an EQ pedal in front of it. Take out the midrange, give it extra bass, turn the highest treble frequency down to 0, then play with the amps 2 band eq. Bonus - the simulated gain can be altered with the eq pedal volume control.
I think amp and effects. Growing up I couldn't afford either, so I did a ridiculous amount of tone shaping using the early software modelling amplifiers and misc effects. It took years, but by 2010 I had some amazing patches put together. Many of my friends, who had equipment and gigged in bands would always laugh at me playing a cheap Fender knockoff on a shit PC, until they heard it. Everyone ended up taking turns. Nowadays, it's SUPER common and there are a lot of options, but back then, you had to get really creative just to have a tone that wasn't pure garbage.
When you factor in that tone is predominantly built through the player’s fingering and overall technique, I’d still go “expensive” guitar first. By the time you’ll need/want a better amp, you’ll have a better technique foundation to make the most out of said amp. I see it as a better guitar journey investment solely based on comfort/playability of a higher quality guitar. Custom shop guitars though are obviously on the extreme side, I’m mainly talking fender MIM (or cheaper USA) compared to a squire/alternate brand starter guitars.
Both are a must. But it s true the amp change everything! I have roland jazz chorus 120 from 1982. Once you play on one of these amps. You don’t want any other amp. Except maybe the Dumble amplifier but at 150 000$ its a bit expensive😅
Both of them sound nice in their own way. It depends where you would use this combo. And specially mentioned: a guitarist like Brian May often recorded thru the cheap af Deacy Amp built by John Deacon and those recordings fit in perfectly in the style of the songs. Like a musician an instruments sound has to fit and serve the music, never the other way round.
Like many people in this section I needed some years to finally realize that if you really have to choose you better pick the amp, hands down. There was the time when I had only Squiers on a tiny Fender Champ ... Then more cash came in so now I play Reverend guits (Buckshot, Airsonic, Warhawk and Crosscut) paired with a Blackstar HT5 MKII and a Laney Supercub 12 : having quality valve amps and those top guitars is a perfect match. So I'd say to have both really changes your life completely ! 👍
It honestly depends who you are as a player. If you gig frequently and mainly play live I’d put the amp above all things else. If you’re more of a bedroom guitarist, someone who jams at home or in a studio more often than not there are plenty of cheap amp sims and plenty of options of practice amps so you can focus more on getting a better guitar. I used to go for guitars more than amps but I’ve learned better since many live shows I’ve done I either did not sound how I wanted or was quieter than the rest of my band.
A cheap amp will always sound cheap, although there are some things you can do to make it a little better. A good amp will get the best out of whatever you plug into it. I happen to have an old Yamaha G15 practice amp at home as my beater amp, I've recently wired a speaker out to it and plugged it into my 2x12 cab, the improvement in the sound quality and tone is very noticeable, 100% would recommend this mod.
as someone with a cheap amp and guitar this feels like a punch to the gut 💀
Same here man
What counts as cheap?
his cheapest guitar is the Donner Dst-400 which is not so cheap too 💀
Samr
@@1egit_exepeavey vypyr
As someone with no amp, no guitar and no money to buy any of them this hurts my soul
Why do you gotta be so relatable
@@ChikaraSilk why do you gotta be relatable by being related to this relatable comment???
@@dublethetruble4620 Why does your relatable comment about being related to their relatable comment about being related to op's relatable comment have to be so relatable ??
Why you talk about me 😢
real
Me who is broke: “it’s all expensive”
I felt that one 🥲
Totally, but save up and wait for the sales and practice in between so when you get em your scorching already👊🎸😍
us
@Vincent well put.
Facts
expensive amp gives off a nice sound while the expensive guitar gives you a nice feel while you play
Nobody’s talking about how his “cheapest guitar”….
Is a suped up partscaster
This is the way
That went 144p to 4k real quick.
No replies is crazy
this is actually funny as fuck dude
@@BPBcoversAttention replies are crazy
@@toast3990 mb
let me in to your heart and it will be emptied of everything and restored to its natural perfect empty clarity@enriqueamaya3883
Clearly, we need great guitars, AND expensive amps! Done.
Agreed
@@undyingv0id397 nice pfp
Yes, but he didn’t mention the playability of the instrument as a factor. That’s why it’s recommended to get an expensive amp if you’re gigging and an expensive guitar if you play at home mostly
Thats what I'm sayin
No shit
*Expensive Pedals has entered the chat*
lmao fr. Got a cheap guitar and amp but tbh with a few pedals it wont matter that much lol
Why buying pedals when You can build one yourself?
@@poisof457 Okay send over the circuit for a chorus pedal with a CAD file of the housing. Why waste hours of time for likely a shitty tone when I can buy a used one for 80$.
@@natasa04tsats15i mean, just have 1 distortion pedal, ovedrive, equalizer, compressor, chorus, reverb and delay and you will sound like fucking alex lifeson
@@hureak1456 yeah damn, aight I'll try that thx lol
As an expensive guitar, this really hurts my ego. But I shouldn’t fret to much
Valid
pun intended
Heh, **Fret**
😂best comment
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His very first amp is more expensive than my whole setup lol
Me looking at your first amp saying “hm that looks familiar” and then realizing it’s right next to me
What kinda amp u got
@malachidenson3473 it's a fender champion 20 it's pretty cheap and a good beginner Amp
lmao same
😅😅😅
Good amp kinda hits different tho
It's kinda like having a shitty drum set, but the cymbals go crazy
it sounds deeper kinda
Hits different.🤢..that en vogue phrase. Maybe im just getting old. But this modern lingo is wack. Not tight at all
@@jess_n_atx Its kinda hard to watch how you struggle understanding that people have a subjective opinion to how they express; your comment only makes it evident how your way of thinking is petty. So unfortunate…
@@kaimuto123well to be fair you can hear bad cymbals a lot easier then bad toms
this is why I play inter-dimensional time flute
Cant be a the vintage triangle
Why not jazz flute
A common choice among the time traveling space demons of the planet Blorbidale, didnt realize it was gaining popularity on earth, thats great to hear 😄👌👏💞
My ex could do that. Made it hard to leave.
If you like that check out super secret band
As a person with a $20 acoustic guitar I see this as absolute pain
Well... look on the brightside you don't need an amp in the first place.
+1
Absolutely, my best suggestion for those starting out in electric guitar is to skip the cheaper amps, even if you have to save up for a bit, start out with a good amp, you can buy a used blues junior, pro jr, Roland jc40, blues deluxe or a vox ac15 for around $350-500 especially if you check local listings. Eventually you might want a Princeton, deluxe reverb, twin, ac30, tweed Bassman or something with higher headroom or fancier build whatnot. Yet those amps I had mentioned in the $350-500 range will sound remarkably better than anything in the $100-300 range 9/10. I’d also implore you to invest similar money at minimum into your first electric. The following guitars are recommended and can be found new or used in the $350-500 range: Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster, anything in the Squier Classic vibe range, Epiphone dot, danelectro models, used grestch models, most of the used Epiphone les Paul’s in that price range will work well too. The more you invest into your starter gear, the more inclined you will be to practice.
never have i ever heard someone test guitar tone with a Rafa Rodriguez riff, u got good taste
IK dude I'm liking this guy more n more
Yes!!!
:D
What song?
@@8BitsOfFun1323 Funck by Rafa Rodriguez
“The equipment is only as good as the person using it”
-my music professor
bingo!
Exactly, check out this video I made with the same cheap amp he is using. Tone is affected by everything, but in the end it is mostly up to your hands and fingers. ua-cam.com/users/shortsX4PJ_8qAqw8?si=Kr228_Q0lEFi-4I_
While that is true, he left out the part about how the person using it is only as good as the equipment.
If your guitar:
-stays in tune after bends
-has moderate action
-doesn't cut you when you slide
-has frets that aren't super high
Then it's good enough.
On the other hand, what you really want in a guitar is:
-9 strings
-multi-scale fanned frets
-kill switch
-single-coil and Humbucker toggle
-whammy bar
-locking tuners
-volume knob that actually gradually changes volume
The fact that your cheapest strat is an HSS strat made me feel broke
hss are not necessarily that expensive, squier makes some really cheap hss models!
As a bassist, as long as your instrument is comfortable and has a decent tone (which isn’t too hard to find under $400) you can use it well, and for a long time too. Investing in a good amp can both help you shape your tone more than a good guitar, and you also won’t have to upgrade if you ever need to play in a large place. I play a sbmm ray4 (you can probably grab one used for around $300)through an acoustic 370/301 stack, and I gotta say, it can do anything.
It took me years to learn that good amps are the key to good tone. I had owned 3 usa strats & a les paul before I learned this though. Now I always put more emphasis on my amps & take a diff approach with my guitars
Amps, pickups, and strings. If those 3 things are good then it doesn’t matter if your guitar is $50, or $17,000, if the frets are measured out correctly, and you have those 3 things, it’ll sound awesome and people would struggle telling the difference from just hearing
The speakers in the cabs matter way more than the strings, bad speakers can make good amps sound bad
@@erikmorgan7059 fair point. All of this still builds on the foundation tho, having an expensive guitar isn’t what makes great sound, it’s having equipment. It’s so much nicer knowing I can buy a crappy $200 warlock, as opposed to feeling entitled to pay $4000 for one that’ll sound the exact same
So what amp you use now?
@@chriskucholtz6967 I’m a synyster gates whore, I grabbed a marshall hellwin before they stopped being made
I feel like if u looped a clip of the cheap one and played the expensive one u could write a really good somg
The song is Funck by Rafa Rodriguez 😊
I feel like if you never made a comment ever again it would be really nice.
@@sarcastaball or better yet, hear me out. you just keep scrolling!!!
@@sarcastaball weirdo
Zomg
We had the same first amp. I mostly play metal but you can get some killer tones out of that thing for any genre.
Champion 20 is great for a budget, frontman 10 might be the worst amp ever created
@@craigdaker123 yeah
I use an 30w Philips speaker with an inexpensive car amp (total was about 20€) and get pretty workable tones for practicing with my band
If you’re worried about tone, spend more of your budget on an amp. If you want to play live, this is the way to go, how you sound is everything.
But if you’re just jamming at home, invest more in your guitar. How it plays is more important if it’s just for you.
It is imperative to possess a high-quality instrument, as an inferior one will inevitably compromise the quality of your performance, regardless of the amplification employed. Amps don't matter as long as you crank it up! ✌️
as someone who can't even afford to buy either a cheap guitar nor a cheap amp made me feel like poverty just slapped me right across my face
I longed for a "real" guitar and amp for years. You've just got to get your priorities straight and really try. Save $10 a week. Ten bucks, and DON'T TOUCH IT. In a year you'll be surprised at what you can buy.
Amps really make the difference.
I agree.
Check this out and then tell me you cannot get a great tone with a cheap amp. ua-cam.com/users/shortsX4PJ_8qAqw8?si=Kr228_Q0lEFi-4I_
No they don’t! You can get same sound from a cheap amp vs expensive amp!
@@chriskibodeaux9818the real crazy difference comes from the speakers and cabinet size. if you use a tiny combo amp with shitty speakers, it's gonna sound worse than a tiny amp head hooked up to a large cab with v30s or another nice set of speakers
@@peppymartian9382and u absolutely can get the same sound from cheap vs expensive!
Cheap guitar with expensive amp wins every single time. There is no argument.
Yeah, the guitar can't be total crap. But if your cheap guitar is reasonable, a good expensive amp can make a huge difference!
Yeah, it's super easy and cheap to upgrade guitars anyways. You can easily make a cheap guitar sound and play like a custom shop guitar.
An expensive guitar can only really shine to the fullest with an expensive amp, so best to buy a good, affordable guitar and pair it with a quality amo
So true for the amp. I got a PRS CE (middle of the line, but still a Very NICE and expensive guitar) and played it with my cheapo solid state amp and i had no desire to play that guitar again.
Then I plugged in my PRS SE Custom 24 (entry level, but still very nice) guitar into a restored fender tweed amp. Holy friggin schnikeys. I didn't want to out my guitar down.
I would say enjoying playing your guitar is most important. You even still want to play unplugged if you have a really nice guitar.
People who have this argument completely miss the fact people are buying gear for different reasons. If you have no intention of gigging you should get the nice guitar for more fun practicing. If you intend to gig get the more expensive amp for the better sound. To argue one decision is better than the other with no context is completely insane.
While your reasoning is most definitely true to most senses, "I" have personally found the best route would be more expensive amplifier over guitar due to (sounding) better/closer ro what you wanna play will continue your endeavors.
Either way, its up to the players preference and budget🤘🏻
Good amp and comfortable feeling guitar is my go to. It's not so much about about expensive because you can find random gems in something like a squire in how the strings feel on your fret hand. Combine that with your amp and the money you saved to upgrade your pickups and you're in business
First choose the tone you are after. Look at what the artist are playing in that style and then buy the best guitar you can that fits that sound. Then you can plug that thing into anything from a practice amp, amp sim pedal to a full rig and it will sound good. For me, an Electromatic Gretsch, tape delay pedal into a vox ac10 or fender Princeton is the sound.
honestly, expensive amp is better bc not only does it give u good sounds on ur guitar then, but when u get a new one ur guitar is gonna sound just as good or better!
A good guitarist can make any guitar/amp sound nice 😮
You can’t make a fender practice amp sound good unless you turn your tone knob all the way down lol, and then it still doesn’t sound good just bearable
@@Augrills yeah u can
@@DylanMcNulty2003 nah
Me who plays acoustic
Playing that primal setup
@@KD-vg2ynlmaooo
I’m in the same boat, tested by time and the best for what I play.
*proceeds to start slaping the guitar instead of playing on the strings 💀
i like both, the compression of the cheap amp is something that i feel could fit well in just about any song
Cheap comfortable guitar + cheap decent amp is the best combo for beginners.
Always guitar PICKUPS. Use DI and an amp sim, and you can have any amp you want for like $100.
Your best investment in terms of guitar tone is always going to be your speaker cabinet. The other stuff only really changes your tone slightly, but a good cab will blow you away.
The best investment in terms of your tone is always going to be to learn to play better. Check out this video I made with this exact same cheap amp and then tell me you cannot get an amazing tone with a cheap amp. ua-cam.com/users/shortsX4PJ_8qAqw8?si=Kr228_Q0lEFi-4I_
Glad to see you are big into guitars. I met your Dad years back at an event for Bill Martini, was a cool evening. But Happy Holidays!!
For anyone curious, the song is Funck by Rafa Rodriguez
ty bro
Thanks so much! Sounds fire!
Yo that blues riff u were playing was fire lowkey gave me chills ngl
How about something in between? An Epiphone LP and a boss katana amp make for a great combo for example. At the end of the day it depends on the guitarist themselves. Just have fun playing
That riff is so modern metal vibe
Whats the song
FINALLY SOMEONE SHOWING RAFA RODRIGUEZ SOME LOVE!!! You have no idea how surprised I was to hear you playing funck 😁
bro! Rafa Rodriguez? loving your taste lately.
Which produces the sound? Speaker
SonI would say. For practice-> Confy guitar
For recording -> nice sounding amp
I feel a nicer guitar is my preference. It plays smoother, stays in tune, and like he said encourages more play time. You can make a cheaper amp sound awesome with a few pedals.
Personally, it depends what settings you set the amp to. You can tone it to whatever you think sounds nice.
Why would someone pay $2,000 for their Marshall amp setup if they could tweak their settings on their $75 pawn shop line 6 10 watt practice amp and get a great tone? You get what you pay for.
My current setup is a 100 watt boss katana solid state amp and a synyster gates custom. Tone for me is fantastic when compared to my old setup
Line 6 10 watt practice amp and a $150 harmony starter guitar.
@@justinbowen1183 you would def start to notice the difference when you have better gear. But sometimes its good not to have and extract the best out of it. I've made excellent tones with a Boss ME25 and a fender Mustang amp when I was a kid
@@pedrosilvaproductions you can get some fantastic tones out of a cheaper amp. For the longest time my go to amp was a line 6 spider amp. I have been playing for 16 years and about 10 of those were spent using that amp. I also for recording would hook a quarter inch to 8th inch adapter into the headphone port of the amp onthe front and run an auxiliary cord to the microphone port of my amp and for the longest time that was how I recorded my stuff. I didnt switch over to an all digital setup until maybe 5 or so years ago. The thing I was hurting for the most man was being able to hardcore fine tune the exact sound I wanted so you could probably imagine how insanely cool it was when I found out that the katana amp before I bought I had a USB out specifically for recording an all digital signal as well as an entire application for fine tuning my tone exactly how I wanted.
When I got married my grandfather asked if there was anything I really wanted in life as a wedding gift that was just for me myself. I showed him this amp and he played long ago in the 70's and after explaining what all it could do he bought it for me $500 and it has been extremely good to me since day 1 after I figured out how everything worked.
Why does the first one low-key sound good
It sounds better these people just think louder = better lmao
@@ahhhhyes now let's hear it in overdrive
i feel like this isn’t a very fair comparison. don’t get me wrong, he’s still absolutely right, an expensive amp can turn any guitar into a beauty to listen to, but the tones are fundamentally different. the cheap amp is much more mid focused, while the second one is much more balanced. expensive amp is still clearly more detailed though.
i also have to add, tones are tools to get a desired feeling. that cheap amp didn’t have a stereotypically great tone, but it had a kind of feeling that was very unique, almost nostalgic. the thing is though, you can make an expensive amp sound like that if you wanted to, but it’s much harder (not impossible) to make a cheaper amp sound expensive.
@@defaultdan7923 The thing is, the amp provides a eq filter that might sound good or not, but over time your ears kinda adjust to that filter and reveal the underlying tone of the guitar, by which time the expensive amp + cheap guitar.. sounds like a cheap guitar!
Sometimes the lower quality amp can get provide a nice hazy or cloudy sound if that’s the goal.
I concur, a good amp and a cheaper guitar work well. Especially with a good pedal board and/or amp modeling pedal. It helps to have a good assortment of guitars for different tones. You can do it all with one guitar, an HSH strat with coil splitting.
Always love your riffing, great retro-modern blend. Tasteful.
Expensive amp always wins. I know people argue about an expensive guitar having better feel, but i really think theres a feel to an expensive amp as well. It squishes and compresses and feedbacks and has its own feel, which imo makes me want to play more often.
You can find a ton of great guitars out there used in the 300-400 range and pair that with a decent amp.
You can get awesome guitars for that price. I got a Schecter Sun Valley SS FR with sustainiac for that price
played every modular out there and guitars are a dime a dozen but it's always been the tube amp for me... I come back to tube amps every time for whatever situation anymore. some of theses 5 ampers sound fantastic and there's a pedal for EVERY scenario your drummer can think of ... I bought a boutique direct box that goes from the sound stage to the moon.. pedals will be your next drug of choice ... rehab comes later.. good luck!
You just made me appreciate my squier even more now 😊 I’m loving ripping on this thing, (first and only guitar so far ) I need a sick amp though!
I could not agree more, I have a random wesfeild strat copy and a lovely marahall vs100 and it sounds👌
I miss my VS100. I pawned it for 100 dollars back in the late 2000's.
Clearly the amp is most important. Seconded by the pickups, then maybe cables, then the wood of the guitar and the action.
Wood of the guitar is mostly aesthetic. It could effect sustain but I would argue most modern guitars sustain just fine regardless. Action is incredibly important for how you feel playing it. The tone is primarily only changed by the amp and pickups, though having nice cables can help prevent interference in your signal chain. Wood shouldn’t even be on your list except for aesthetic reasons, it can make a difference if you just want a pretty-looking guitar to feel good playing it but there’s a lot of proof that it doesn’t effect tone.
I would argue strings make more of a difference than wood with a solid body.
Sounds all backwards to me
@@elwolf8536 the instrument can only make a sound so loud. Everything from the pickup magnet onward affect the sound more than before because it changes the character of the signal along the way whereas the strings/wood do this to a lesser degree.
amps matter so much more than i ever imagined they would back when i first started playing
What also adds fire to the mix is that you can use software to be your amp. You cant obviously use that live but if you already had a good pc set up and speakers you cpuld just plug in and not worry about the amp.
OK hands-down you're correct. The ONLY reason I would choose the opposite. If it's for a new guitar player who can invest in a good guitar to learn. Then I could see that.
Don't forget about the speakers. You can really brighten an affordable amp up with a speaker upgrade. Same with the pickups on guitar.
Pickups don’t make much of a difference. Of course the types of pickups sound different, but like quality doesn’t mean much. Speakers do make a huge difference, though
idk i really like the sound of the cheap amp because it makes it sound kinda like the treble was turned up while the bass cranked down a bit
Rafa doesn't get enough love man, he's so fucking good.
Amps pedals and guitar. Whichever order you find yourself attaining that is subject to taste. But the good amp is a good starting point and then tweak the sound. Actually the number one thing you have to get especially in a musical setting is the right people to play with that inspire and ultimately give a better understanding.
For me, a good amplifier is more important, but it depends on what one considers “cheap”
That answers my question! No more expensive guitars, just amps. Sounds good to me!
Neither the guitar or amp matters when you have a crappy guitar cab with crap speakers.
a good guitar player will make any combination sound good
Wow.
Well yeah that's a no-brainer if you're an electric player. If you play acoustics invest in a better guitar first.
Same kinda comparison of cheap DLSR body but expensive glass! Love these kinds of videos.
Price of guitar= playability and comfort
Price of amp= sound & tone
“Inexpensive” “Strat” never thought I’d hear those 2 words in one sentence
WTF lol Theyre called Squiers
Lots of good strats personally I like the sawtooth brand of stratocaster they make really good cheap guitars
If you have a cheap guitar that FEELS good, then upgrade your amp first.
And absolutely, you'll get results like this.
But that's the trick. Finding a guitar that feels good for you through an amp that feels good is the real thing.
You don’t need an expensive amp, you just need a good one.
Harley Benton sells a 2x12 cab loaded with Creambacks, and you can get second hand heads for relatively cheap.
Effects pedals can make up for any other lacking equipment. Just go with what you can afford and is comfortable. I see so many new guitar players waste so much money on "pro" gear and then have no idea how to find decent sound quality.
You can find cheap equipment that will get you a similar sound to expensive stuff.
Exactly my experience. My made in Fullerton MFD-equipped G&L sounds ridiculously good through my €50,- / 20w transistor amp. If I plug it into my DeltaBlues (30w tube) it shines of course, but with the small transistor amp it's almost already there. A great guitar over an expensive amp ANYDAY.
(That said I want a Friedman or Revv so bad LOL 🤪)
BASED song choice. Good to see a fellow Rafa Rodriguez enjoyer
whats the song name?
@@tifftuff6705 Funck by Rafa Rodriguez
We’re guitar players, not amp players. An expensive guitar will last longer, stay in tune, probably sound better too.
Honestly, a middle of the road guitar and a middle of the road amp will do you more wonders than putting all your money into one or the other
eh its not about price but about sound. not guaranteed that an amp just because its more expensive than another amp will sound better to you. you have to test amps and guitars and find what fits you and turn a blind eye on that damn price tag. in my opinion of course.
@@benireges Well, its not a matter of a $200 amp versus a several thousand dollar amp. It's a matter of buying an amp that isn't objectively shitty like a free 5W amp you get with your first guitar. I have a few amps that would now probably sell for way more than they are worth, but I've paid $150-$200 for an amp that could out-do any Marshall if given the right toned speaker cab. I've paid $75 for a combo that is better than most other combos in my opinion. So I dont disagree, its not about how much you pay, as long as its decent. That's why I said middle of the road. The middle of the road doesn't mean the middle of the price range
@@logancuda4624 i misunderstood you then
@@benireges No worries
You see, the cheap guitar and expensive amp are the *head* option, while the expensive guitar and cheap amp are the *heart* option. While it makes more sense to go for the amp, this won't make you feel like a rock star, but a nice guitar will. At the end of the day, we are guitarists. We have an inherent need to attract attention, and a shiny guitar attracts far more attention than some bulky box in the background, for which 95% of people don't hear the difference. Of these, there are 99% who don't even know what the typical amp settings do, but they know a fancy guitar when they see it.
As someone who started playing in an era when the only affordable amps were solid state, I cried when I finally got a tube amp about 20 years later
It feels kinda wrong to comment this early 💀
no body cares
so quirky
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@@IdrinkcoffeeALOT shut up goof
@@kodaksnaggz1357 mad?
the last one actually slaps
That feeling when you have an expensive guitar and expensive amp ☠️☠️☠️💀💀💀
I think amp is the correct option, but picking the guitar feels better
I have that same fender champ 20. It honestly isnt too bad if you put an EQ pedal in front of it. Take out the midrange, give it extra bass, turn the highest treble frequency down to 0, then play with the amps 2 band eq.
Bonus - the simulated gain can be altered with the eq pedal volume control.
Damn, really makes a difference with headphones.
EVH completely flipped the world of rock music upside down with a $150 guitar. Expensive amp by far.
I think amp and effects. Growing up I couldn't afford either, so I did a ridiculous amount of tone shaping using the early software modelling amplifiers and misc effects. It took years, but by 2010 I had some amazing patches put together. Many of my friends, who had equipment and gigged in bands would always laugh at me playing a cheap Fender knockoff on a shit PC, until they heard it. Everyone ended up taking turns. Nowadays, it's SUPER common and there are a lot of options, but back then, you had to get really creative just to have a tone that wasn't pure garbage.
When you factor in that tone is predominantly built through the player’s fingering and overall technique, I’d still go “expensive” guitar first. By the time you’ll need/want a better amp, you’ll have a better technique foundation to make the most out of said amp.
I see it as a better guitar journey investment solely based on comfort/playability of a higher quality guitar.
Custom shop guitars though are obviously on the extreme side, I’m mainly talking fender MIM (or cheaper USA) compared to a squire/alternate brand starter guitars.
Both are a must. But it s true the amp change everything! I have roland jazz chorus 120 from 1982. Once you play on one of these amps. You don’t want any other amp. Except maybe the Dumble amplifier but at 150 000$ its a bit expensive😅
Expensive amps definitely helps the confidence and makes you wanna practice more which i think is a really good reason for investment.
Both of them sound nice in their own way. It depends where you would use this combo. And specially mentioned: a guitarist like Brian May often recorded thru the cheap af Deacy Amp built by John Deacon and those recordings fit in perfectly in the style of the songs. Like a musician an instruments sound has to fit and serve the music, never the other way round.
Like many people in this section I needed some years to finally realize that if you really have to choose you better pick the amp, hands down. There was the time when I had only Squiers on a tiny Fender Champ ...
Then more cash came in so now I play Reverend guits (Buckshot, Airsonic, Warhawk and Crosscut) paired with a Blackstar HT5 MKII and a Laney Supercub 12 : having quality valve amps and those top guitars is a perfect match.
So I'd say to have both really changes your life completely ! 👍
It honestly depends who you are as a player. If you gig frequently and mainly play live I’d put the amp above all things else. If you’re more of a bedroom guitarist, someone who jams at home or in a studio more often than not there are plenty of cheap amp sims and plenty of options of practice amps so you can focus more on getting a better guitar. I used to go for guitars more than amps but I’ve learned better since many live shows I’ve done I either did not sound how I wanted or was quieter than the rest of my band.
A cheap amp will always sound cheap, although there are some things you can do to make it a little better. A good amp will get the best out of whatever you plug into it.
I happen to have an old Yamaha G15 practice amp at home as my beater amp, I've recently wired a speaker out to it and plugged it into my 2x12 cab, the improvement in the sound quality and tone is very noticeable, 100% would recommend this mod.
If you are playing for yourself a better guitar is better, if you plan to gig with that rig go for the nice amp, spund is more important for gigging.