Don’t worry you’ll be fine. My 2013 model S P85+ has 167,000 miles. I’ve documented this on my channel and I have convinced a lot of people to take the plunge to electric cars. By the way, I’m still on my original battery.
@@forgotmypassword2804 if you contact electrified Garage, they will do a service and pull it. They said they can only work on two modules for about $7000 anything over two module packs and it gets to the point where you need to just replace the whole battery. But to everybody thinking that fixing an electric car is outrageous. Just remember I have a friend who has a five-year-old BMW M5 in the motor blew and it was $50,000 to repair and rebuild.
Just bought a 2013 Model S P85+ with 173k miles last week for 17,500. Battery and drive unit was replaced back in 2018 at 62k miles along with a bunch of other stuff like door handles etc.
What a great idea. Showing an older EV. All other EV UA-camrs are with new EV models. I'll be interested in how this all plays out for the AEF channel. Thanks for sharing.
I'd you're interested in what an older Model S can do I've published many road trip videos in my 2015 Model S85D on my UA-cam channel. I also publish annual maintenance cost videos.
I think I remember you saying that the R1T towed better, so that’s my vote. Although, with your kids only getting bigger, the 3rd row in the R1S is probably nice.
It bugs me whenever I hear that the battery was replaced after not so many miles. I hope that was more common with the early Teslas since I have a 2020 Model 3 Performance.
There is an awesome extended warranty company specifically servicing EV’s, called XCare. They now cover drive units and HV batteries. They studied the crap out of battery life. Guess what, they won’t even cover Model S batteries and drive units older than 2015 and more than 175k miles. Even on new cars they won’t cover more than 12-13 years and the coverage is around $7k. That’s all you need to know about battery life based on age, not just miles and cycles. All it takes is 1 of 7000 cells to go bad, aka resistive, to cause the whole pack to fail. Yikes.
QC Charge has a coolant delete manifold which should fix the problem with the seals in the LDU similar to the latest OEM revision. Might make for a good video.
Either way even replacing the battery or fixing the battery it's probably about $9,000 now it's gone down way cheaper than a high-end BMW motor or a Mercedes or something like that
I'll look more into it but what I read was on a BMS error code people could purchase a device to reset and conceal that code for a short while. I didn't read to much further whether that would show up on the service menu. Maybe you know more and can share. Thanks
I have a 2015 Model S85D with the rear facing seats and it was our only family vehicle for a couple of years until we bought a truck to pull our RV while we wait for our Cybertruck. Our Model S has taken us on many adventures all over the United States many of which are published on my UA-cam channel. The biggest limitation on road trips is charging speed. We now have 135,000 mi on the odometer and the charging speed is starting to become an issue adding too much time in some situations.
@@AllElectricFamily haha unfortunately that may be true. We've only ever DC fast charged our Model S on superchargers since they're free for us. I've watched enough UA-cam though to see the others are often a terrible experience.
Forgot to mention, best thing about it was the free charging perk. I am the second owner and it is good for the life of the car. Nothing like free gas in CA!
This is very interesting, thank you, we are in the UK and have 2 diesel convertibles (BMW and Audi) which we will be keeping but I am interested in adding a Tesla but no way would I pay for a new EV as the depreciation is a joke so if the hit has already been taken it could be a useful car to own
Free Supercharging for life! that's excellent. .but please beware tesla may take it away once they find out that's there's a chnage of owner.. Also it's pretty odd too or does not make sense that the original owner did not transfer the supercharging for life in his new PLAID... Tesla offered that option where you could transfer FS4L to a new S or X or Y..... tesla does not provde free supercharging for life anymore even in PLAID .... hmmmm... are you sure? you may want to check again with Tesla...
What are you missing from a newer model? Forgive my verbiage of items, Is the auto steer, one pedal driving etc. I don’t have an EV, but interested in difference between older and newer.
This one doesn't even have backup sensors, but yes AP, one pedal driving, this is rear wheel drive, slower UI because of computer, no heat pump, I'm sure I'm forgetting things but it does have a moon-roof:)
What years/models should be avoided? I have heard Kyle Conner mention issues with seals and bearings in older Model S drive units . . . those are expensive repairs.
@@AllElectricFamily Your videos are both helpful and entertaining. The used Tesla market will be huge soon. The more information about the longevity of these cars, the better.
On UA-cam you should watch uber driver 120,000 miles experiment . The tesla experiment...... Its pretty interesting. His tesla barely lasted a year as taxi/uber. It broke down.
A new battery for a Model Y would cost $9,000. Not that bad if your 200,000 mile Tesla is $17,000. That's $26,000 total. That would be acceptable to me.
That's what we have been reading and agree it would be acceptable but we would like people to know that going into it. Since it's a cheaper vehicle more people are able to purchase but may not be able to swing a 9k pack, so we hope to get some of that info out. Thanks
@@jianbinchen2881 Not true. I just found out Tesla's not doing refurbished batteries anymore. That's a new Model Y battery for $9000. Not to mention, CATL and BYD are getting into a price war, and CATL says the cost of a battery will fall by 50% by the end of the year. Worth waiting for if you feel your battery is degraded too much.
Mileage really doesn't matter with EV's, it's the age of the battery pack. Once you hit ten years old you are just rolling the dice as to how long it will last. That's why we only get 8 year warranties on all battery packs from all manufacturers. My 2013 EV pack was going out so I sold that sucker fast.
@@AllElectricFamily Sure. The computer threw up an error code and displayed a wrench icon. The dealer said the pack could have one or more cells going bad (leaking). I was quoted $13,000 to replace the pack.
That is us. We want to learn more about how EV’s work but mostly that will be a project vehicle Steve and Ollie work on and then drive very short distances.
Nope never heard of anybody being killed in the rear seats. Saw a video of Elon adressing that question when they first came out and said because of the structure they're very safe.
Don’t worry you’ll be fine. My 2013 model S P85+ has 167,000 miles. I’ve documented this on my channel and I have convinced a lot of people to take the plunge to electric cars. By the way, I’m still on my original battery.
Thanks for the info, any will help.
Thanks for the sharing. Do you have any plan B in case of battery failure for those who can't afford new? Thanks
@@forgotmypassword2804 if you contact electrified Garage, they will do a service and pull it. They said they can only work on two modules for about $7000 anything over two module packs and it gets to the point where you need to just replace the whole battery. But to everybody thinking that fixing an electric car is outrageous. Just remember I have a friend who has a five-year-old BMW M5 in the motor blew and it was $50,000 to repair and rebuild.
I believe you, Bryce. There’s a guy in Great Britain who has a Model 3 with 420k on his odometer ( and with the original battery. Saw him on UA-cam
It's all fun and games until you have to replace a battery pack out of warranty.
Still rocking our 2013. 120K and still the best car we’ve owned.
Love it! It’ll be fun to learn more about.
Just bought a 2013 Model S P85+ with 173k miles last week for 17,500. Battery and drive unit was replaced back in 2018 at 62k miles along with a bunch of other stuff like door handles etc.
What a great idea. Showing an older EV. All other EV UA-camrs are with new EV models. I'll be interested in how this all plays out for the AEF channel. Thanks for sharing.
I'd you're interested in what an older Model S can do I've published many road trip videos in my 2015 Model S85D on my UA-cam channel. I also publish annual maintenance cost videos.
Thanks for always being along for the ride!
This video makes me happy, thanks for checking out an old high mileage EV. Much more relatable than the new expensive ones
I think I remember you saying that the R1T towed better, so that’s my vote. Although, with your kids only getting bigger, the 3rd row in the R1S is probably nice.
Yeah it is great for towing and the storage is amazing.
Looking at videos documenting older ev's is very helpful
It bugs me whenever I hear that the battery was replaced after not so many miles. I hope that was more common with the early Teslas since I have a 2020 Model 3 Performance.
I am not planning on keeping my model 3 past the battery warranty. I have already seen too many horror stories of batteries dying out of warranty.
There is an awesome extended warranty company specifically servicing EV’s, called XCare. They now cover drive units and HV batteries. They studied the crap out of battery life. Guess what, they won’t even cover Model S batteries and drive units older than 2015 and more than 175k miles. Even on new cars they won’t cover more than 12-13 years and the coverage is around $7k. That’s all you need to know about battery life based on age, not just miles and cycles. All it takes is 1 of 7000 cells to go bad, aka resistive, to cause the whole pack to fail. Yikes.
It can be problematic
Still looks amazing. I miss our 2015 85D.
The last owner took great care of it.
Thank you guys good luck!! Pedro from South Florida
Thanks, it's already been interesting:)
As a new owner of a 2014 Model S P85, I’m so in for this! 😄
QC Charge has a coolant delete manifold which should fix the problem with the seals in the LDU similar to the latest OEM revision. Might make for a good video.
Great we hope to provide good info and mostly have fun with it.
Thanks for the tip we may need all the help we can get!
That S looks super clean. Brings back good memories of my first Model S. It was a great car, other than the door handles.
Already replaced one🤣
I want one with the rear seats
Either way even replacing the battery or fixing the battery it's probably about $9,000 now it's gone down way cheaper than a high-end BMW motor or a Mercedes or something like that
Cam chain on a BMW is around 2k and you are doing that every 80k
Hi, I love your channel! Have you had the Tesla for it's first full Nebraska winter? How was the range effected by the Cold and snow??
4:37 you literally cant hide anything. service menu...
I'll look more into it but what I read was on a BMS error code people could purchase a device to reset and conceal that code for a short while. I didn't read to much further whether that would show up on the service menu. Maybe you know more and can share. Thanks
Popcorn time! Nice video 🎉
older Model S is scary. Good luck :)
Thanks, what are the scary things you’ve seen. We did a lot of research and understand the risks but maybe we have missed something.
The $1250 door handles can add up over time.
It was easy to DIY, I had a quote from Tesla for $600 but did one myself for $30.
Did you buy it for 30 usd? New or used?@@AllElectricFamily
According to Kyle Conner, older model S motors tend to have bearing and seal issues.
We are learning about all the things. We love to get help from you all! Thanks
I have a 2013 my electric motor was replaced in 2014. It’s been perfect since.
I have a 2015 Model S85D with the rear facing seats and it was our only family vehicle for a couple of years until we bought a truck to pull our RV while we wait for our Cybertruck. Our Model S has taken us on many adventures all over the United States many of which are published on my UA-cam channel. The biggest limitation on road trips is charging speed. We now have 135,000 mi on the odometer and the charging speed is starting to become an issue adding too much time in some situations.
Thanks for sharing, we are finding out the charging speeds but may still be better then public charging we have been experiencing🤪
@@AllElectricFamily haha unfortunately that may be true. We've only ever DC fast charged our Model S on superchargers since they're free for us. I've watched enough UA-cam though to see the others are often a terrible experience.
I have a 2015 model S, 120K miles my A/C went out. $5,000 to replace!
Forgot to mention, best thing about it was the free charging perk. I am the second owner and it is good for the life of the car. Nothing like free gas in CA!
They definitely seen you coming.
This is very interesting, thank you, we are in the UK and have 2 diesel convertibles (BMW and Audi) which we will be keeping but I am interested in adding a Tesla but no way would I pay for a new EV as the depreciation is a joke so if the hit has already been taken it could be a useful car to own
What's the battery health? How much degradation, has it ever had a new battery put in it?
Is it on the original battery?
You will keep the R1S. More practical.
Agreed
Free Supercharging for life! that's excellent. .but please beware tesla may take it away once they find out that's there's a chnage of owner.. Also it's pretty odd too or does not make sense that the original owner did not transfer the supercharging for life in his new PLAID... Tesla offered that option where you could transfer FS4L to a new S or X or Y..... tesla does not provde free supercharging for life anymore even in PLAID .... hmmmm... are you sure? you may want to check again with Tesla...
Well... given how expensive EV's are this is especially intriguing to myself.
What are you missing from a newer model? Forgive my verbiage of items, Is the auto steer, one pedal driving etc. I don’t have an EV, but interested in difference between older and newer.
This one doesn't even have backup sensors, but yes AP, one pedal driving, this is rear wheel drive, slower UI because of computer, no heat pump, I'm sure I'm forgetting things but it does have a moon-roof:)
What years/models should be avoided? I have heard Kyle Conner mention issues with seals and bearings in older Model S drive units . . . those are expensive repairs.
That's great question and hope to find out more. Thanks for the info.
Love these videos.
Hope they help or entertain!
@@AllElectricFamily Your videos are both helpful and entertaining. The used Tesla market will be huge soon. The more information about the longevity of these cars, the better.
If it's a one owner car, make sure you have copies of the service records.
Get a model 3 they cheap rn just bought one at 21 years old
Maybe a good option we wanted the option of extra seats in the back for kid running around.
Congratulations!
Thanks
On UA-cam you should watch uber driver 120,000 miles experiment . The tesla experiment...... Its pretty interesting. His tesla barely lasted a year as taxi/uber. It broke down.
A new battery for a Model Y would cost $9,000. Not that bad if your 200,000 mile Tesla is $17,000. That's $26,000 total. That would be acceptable to me.
That's what we have been reading and agree it would be acceptable but we would like people to know that going into it. Since it's a cheaper vehicle more people are able to purchase but may not be able to swing a 9k pack, so we hope to get some of that info out. Thanks
$9k for a refurbed battery with a 1 year warranty? Lol
@@JetFire9 It would depend on the range on the old battery. There are a lot of 200,000 mile Teslas out there now still on original battery.
9000 is not new battery , is refurbished.
@@jianbinchen2881 Not true. I just found out Tesla's not doing refurbished batteries anymore. That's a new Model Y battery for $9000. Not to mention, CATL and BYD are getting into a price war, and CATL says the cost of a battery will fall by 50% by the end of the year. Worth waiting for if you feel your battery is degraded too much.
Fun to see, I think you'll keep the R1S.
Makes a lot of sense for the 3 kids+bella.
Does it have heated steering wheel?
No, it doesn't have the cold weather package so just the front seats are heated.
Mileage really doesn't matter with EV's, it's the age of the battery pack. Once you hit ten years old you are just rolling the dice as to how long it will last. That's why we only get 8 year warranties on all battery packs from all manufacturers. My 2013 EV pack was going out so I sold that sucker fast.
Thanks for the info, what was going out on your pack and how did you find that out? Thanks in advance.
@@AllElectricFamily Sure. The computer threw up an error code and displayed a wrench icon. The dealer said the pack could have one or more cells going bad (leaking). I was quoted $13,000 to replace the pack.
Nice find! :popcorn:
What happened to the Cabriolet? Give up on that project?
Still in the works, it’ll be a blast.
Horrible price. Much cheaper options out there with way kess miles.
Insane spending a 115k for a tesla lol 😂
I think most of them were leased.
I’d keep the R1T.
The R1T is an amazing vehicle we just want a space for the dog with 3 kids. There is so much storage in the R1T
Im looking forward to updates on this car.
We are too, it'll be a good thing for a lot of people we believe.
@@AllElectricFamily Absolutely!
Those jeans 🤤
but the resale is very bad
I’m guessing the R1S goes. I know the wifey prefers R1T.
We do love the T😀
@@AllElectricFamily I love mine. It’s been a good truck. Didn’t you guys buy a car to convert to electric or am I thinking of someone else?
That is us. We want to learn more about how EV’s work but mostly that will be a project vehicle Steve and Ollie work on and then drive very short distances.
You either quit making youtube videos or live long enough to make a "I BOUGHT THE HIGHEST MILEAGE OF [INSERT MODEL]" 😂
It’s a model S🤣
Didn't Tesla cancelled those rear facing kids seats after some kids got killed? Imaging a truck rear ending you.
Nope never heard of anybody being killed in the rear seats. Saw a video of Elon adressing that question when they first came out and said because of the structure they're very safe.
So fun watching rich people tell us about all their expensive toys 😂
You lost me at "problematic." That's a word only the ignorant use when describing something they don't like that you shouldn't like either. I'm out.
Sustainable? Nope.
E.V's. LMAO.
:)