Are these $75,000 Beta Power 9/Black Lotus FAKES/COUNTERFEIT or REAL or Magic 30 Proxies???

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 56

  • @homesaucemagic
    @homesaucemagic Рік тому +18

    I think these look nicer than 30AE reprints. :)

  • @MTGUnpacked
    @MTGUnpacked Рік тому +4

    The cards looked way too clean to be real, and that gloss is a dead giveaway!

  • @mistysowards7365
    @mistysowards7365 Рік тому +1

    This is what we need, widely available high quality power 9 and reserved list cards. Seriously. All those who have original copies, well they can value or place values on their cards however they dream. I personally believe in a card game there should always be the ability to purchase cheap versions of cards otherwise its really becomes , whoever is willing to go deep into debt or worse is the one who ends up dominating those who don't. And that's sad

  • @penguinlust6749
    @penguinlust6749 Рік тому +5

    I'd love to see these under a jeweler's loupe. That said, the colors looked off to me, but on video it's really hard to tell. But as you said, these are fairly modern reprints.

    • @vintagemagic
      @vintagemagic  Рік тому +2

      it passed the light test FYI!

    • @Poopschute96
      @Poopschute96 Рік тому

      I use a loupe and look for the rosette pattern.

    • @TripsAhoy
      @TripsAhoy Рік тому

      @@vintagemagic they passed the light test???

  • @MM-es1cl
    @MM-es1cl Рік тому +10

    I knew it was fake by the packaging - There is no one on the planet who would mail a real beta black lotus in a padded envelope smh.

    • @vintagemagic
      @vintagemagic  Рік тому

      I agree, that made no sense.

    • @awkwardlycharming
      @awkwardlycharming Рік тому +1

      bro, the soft "hard" covers break my soul as they don't provide any real protection if someone just presses on the package......noone should ever send in those as well!

  • @bmfitzgerald3
    @bmfitzgerald3 Рік тому +1

    Nice video. Any concerns with giving away too many secrets to other possible counterfeiters? I feel like the more insanely valuable these cards get, and the more information out there about what distinguishes the fakes from the authentic cards, the more likely it someone will be willing to invest in the proper tooling and techniques to get them exactly right.... No?

  • @shweatycardboards8954
    @shweatycardboards8954 Рік тому +1

    This is just the beggining of the magic 30 proxy era! Counterfeiters are just standing by for 30th anniversary to come out so they can unload their proxies. Hopefully wizards put something in place so that counterfeiters can't counterfeit.

  • @mfdoom1898
    @mfdoom1898 Рік тому +3

    Glossy af and the fakes never have that last black ink layer to clean up the image, no matter how good they look

    • @savannahlion3081
      @savannahlion3081 Рік тому +1

      Was the story serious????? Someone wants to start a buisness and needs to send cards to Daniel for final Expert Check Up! All I can do is 😅😂🤣😂😅😂🤣😂😅😂🤣😂😅😂🤣 And then some more 😅😂🤣😂😅😂🤣🤣😂😅 And with the "Multiple Decades Of Experience" ..... some more 😂🤣😂😅😂🤣🤣😂😅 Realy did NOT want to get "too" salty with this, but this must be one of the WORST posts I have ever seen D make! 🤘🦁🤘

  • @alvinwai86
    @alvinwai86 Рік тому +4

    smell test is legit!

    • @savannahlion3081
      @savannahlion3081 Рік тому +1

      Think they smell like " Teen Spirit" ! 🤘🦁🤘

    • @alvinwai86
      @alvinwai86 Рік тому

      @@savannahlion3081 yeah. It either smelled as old-books or glue (big red flag)😂 when you’re lost, always follow the nose 👃😂

  • @keywacat
    @keywacat Рік тому +5

    I knew they were counterfeit from the thumbnail.

    • @savannahlion3081
      @savannahlion3081 Рік тому

      I smelled it when Daniel held the cards CLOSE to the cam! They were off indeed. 🤧

  • @brandonsmith-wz6hb
    @brandonsmith-wz6hb Рік тому +4

    Fake colors off… staying for the audit….

    • @vintagemagic
      @vintagemagic  Рік тому

      yep, but remember if you never seen one before...these look and feel real

    • @jamieknox1806
      @jamieknox1806 Рік тому +1

      @@vintagemagic well if you never seen power before then your probably not going to be able to tell. Wouldn't that be a given considering you have never seen them before.

  • @dudsonmanlord4043
    @dudsonmanlord4043 Рік тому +1

    I'd still take these over the Magic 30th proxies any day!

  • @billytheframe1355
    @billytheframe1355 Рік тому

    I wish you showed the black outlines of the cards under a loupe (the tin black lines that frame the art wrok). It is kinda visible at the brown artifact color that its paxielated but still no hard proofs without a loop.

  • @NathanHassall
    @NathanHassall Рік тому +1

    Those look fake from across the room...also who would put 75k of cards in that packaging?
    Its not difficult to detect these as being fakes man...the condition/centering alone is suspect.
    Did you mail this to yourself? This does not seem real on any level.

  • @slouchengames
    @slouchengames Рік тому

    Any time I see any of the old beta or other bb cards I know something is funny at least if the back is perfect

  • @TheDarkElder
    @TheDarkElder Рік тому

    That's why you can never judge from a distance. So either it's your lighting or the camera, or I could just tell it right away as you moved them into closer view. The coloring and gloss looked off from real 1993 prints.

  • @Chalice4One
    @Chalice4One Рік тому +1

    It was obvious they were fake by the fact the seller never even sleeved them separately. Zero care in the packaging = no clue about Magic cards. I’m gonna try say hello to you in Vegas if you’re there. 😊

    • @vintagemagic
      @vintagemagic  Рік тому +1

      Great point. He sent 75k in little to know protection.

  • @stefanchung23
    @stefanchung23 Рік тому +3

    Poor fake!

  • @savannahlion3081
    @savannahlion3081 Рік тому +1

    Uhh Daniel, purrrhaps to a noob, but to me they re 100% fake. And also HATE the new collectors Scam. 😤😠😡

  • @DankAudioStash24
    @DankAudioStash24 Рік тому +1

    Yes

  • @MtgLonestar
    @MtgLonestar Рік тому

    The Mox was the worst in my eye's.

  • @yorionenthusiast170
    @yorionenthusiast170 Рік тому +3

    Way too clean looking. Fake af.

    • @penguinlust6749
      @penguinlust6749 Рік тому +1

      There are original copies out there that are very clean. I know of sets that have been in boxes and binders since 1993. But these looked off, at least on camera.

    • @yorionenthusiast170
      @yorionenthusiast170 Рік тому +1

      @@penguinlust6749 nah the inking and everything. I own Alpha/Beta they don't look like this.

    • @penguinlust6749
      @penguinlust6749 Рік тому +1

      @@yorionenthusiast170 Yup, agreed. Good counterfeits to the untrained eye, but that's it. Still, I've learned the hard way that even the best camera can distort colors -- seeing them in person is the only way to be sure.

  • @AJ-vl6hw
    @AJ-vl6hw Рік тому

    From the thumbnail only the texture of the paper looks like vintage

  • @sanctred
    @sanctred Рік тому

    what about the red dot test? Did they pass that?

  • @Matt-dc8lp
    @Matt-dc8lp Рік тому +3

    Didn't even have to watch. Not even a good fake.

    • @vintagemagic
      @vintagemagic  Рік тому

      you must be psychic

    • @Matt-dc8lp
      @Matt-dc8lp Рік тому +3

      @@vintagemagic I wish...colors from the thumbnail were terrible. Good analysis though. Thanks for walking us through your processes.

  • @tinaluckhoff614
    @tinaluckhoff614 Рік тому

    Help! Can you Please authenticate my MTG cards?

  • @bigjonnyf3382
    @bigjonnyf3382 Рік тому

    Did they pass the green dot test?

  • @mickeybeavison1053
    @mickeybeavison1053 Рік тому +1

    This guy tried to scam you and will try to scam others. This is not a mistake

  • @gabrielesquaratti5709
    @gabrielesquaratti5709 Рік тому

    btw you won't ship some gem mint power 9 in such a package. hell no!

  • @GamerTreasures
    @GamerTreasures Рік тому +1

    colors off was a dead giveaway

    • @vintagemagic
      @vintagemagic  Рік тому +1

      its hard to show the fakes on camera, but they were not bad for someone who has no idea.

    • @GamerTreasures
      @GamerTreasures Рік тому

      @@vintagemagic definately. You use a pretty good camera in your videos. I'll sometimes see cards posted with potato phone quality pictures on fb where you wouldnt be able to tell if cards were real or fake until they hit your hand.

  • @acalerolinda
    @acalerolinda Рік тому

    Fake ? Bullshit send me my money 😆😆😆😆

  • @gabrielesquaratti5709
    @gabrielesquaratti5709 Рік тому

    at first look : totally fake

  • @jamieknox1806
    @jamieknox1806 Рік тому

    These don't even look close to real

  • @snakeonia7542
    @snakeonia7542 Рік тому

    Fake as F