Some tips for action scenes • 180 DEGREE RULE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. • clarity over making it look cool. Alot of animes make this mistake, especially with the part about lunging straight at the screen and then having the camera totally tilt in a different direction, unless your going for that. • based on my experience, bigger panels have more impact while smaller ones make things go faster.• explosions and flashes are good for transitions. • Focus on injuries helps to slow time down and convey the strenth of the attack. • Facial expressions slow time down too since the person has time to react. Closing in on details does the same. • Your anatomy doesn't have to be perfect in every panel, just make the action clear, believable and energetic. Hope this was helpful! If you have other tips you can drop them down below!!
i think in my opinion you can break it but with very detailed camera movements, as it slowly pans across the battle scene, or detailed transitions,just a jump cut would NOT work ofcorse and i personally knew this without even knowing the rule itself,for me it was natural,just flipping 2 peoples position with a sudden cut is unnatural and confusing
THIS!!! I needed this so bad!! Advice on the actual face getting smashed in! I was struggling with this so bad! Thank you yet again! Intensely smashing button!!!!
I would love a future video on action scenes to tackle making vertical action scenes. I find a lot of comics tips about drawing action, especially big *amaze* action panels relies on people using the width of a full page panel, so that you can stack cinematic "wide screen" shots on a page and I just find that method way less impressive on webtoon, with it's tiny screen and scrolling mechanism. You don't get the same oomph as a wide shot on a page, because there just isn't that width on a phone. As a result, I feel like I'm trying to come up with ways of doing "amaze" panels for fight scenes on my own a bit? Like, I think I've figured out some of the basics, like drawing characters on an angle so one character is kind of "overtop" of another, and I try to pay attention to the power dynamics that suggests. But I need more! More help!!!! So any tips on using the vertical format to our advantage would be awesome! Thanks as ever for the awesome vid!
That's a great idea for a video. I'll try to gather my thoughts on that and make a video, but I think you're on the right track with what you're doing.
Thank you for making another really helpful video and helping me to take my mind off of everything going on right now. Action scenes can be difficult. Something that I sometimes struggle with (that you might consider making a video about) is where to place the camera for dramatic effect. Sometimes I will know where I want to place the characters in a shot but I will struggle with where to place the camera to get the most dramatic impact. I think you may have made a video that touches on this already, but it can sometimes be hard to decide when you want to place the camera up high or down low, when to do a dramatic close up or pan out. Please correct me though if you have already done a video about this. :)
SUPER AMAZING!! Its really great to see you so confident in your intros as well as promoting yourself! I stumbled upon one of your reallyyyy old videos and you've come an extremely long way, proud!!
Hi! First of all, I'd like to give you a massive THANK YOU for all those videos! They're all very constructive and are helping me a lot making my Webtoon project. I like it that you take it straight to the point and your tips are very useful. So as for problems I have with actions scenes, I was wondering how you would do magic users fight? My comic is all about wizards and stuff and I just can't seem to figure out how to make magic looks "badass" Thank you very much and I wish you the best!
Omg!! This is awesome 😭❤️ i didnt even think about having the action going a certain direction to follow the readers eye movements. Mind blown again 😔🤯
Oh now i started noticing i used the side view for of most my scenes :o thanks for pointimg that out, now i will try to pay better attention to angles ;)
@@Germania9 Yeah I’m kind of interested in clip studio b/c of all it’s aspects but it’s way to expensive and I’m all for buying out the app/ free alternatives.
Those are tough. First make sure you know what needs to happen in the story. Obviously who wins, but also which character needs to look tough, which one needs to be beat up really bad with maybe a massive boulder. Then think about the location of the fight and where everyone is standing. Make sure to keep that in mind when you are drawing your panels. Finally make sure you thumbnail the entire fight first before you start really drawing any one panel. Make sure it works as stick figures first.
I gotta finish a comic until christmas cause it's a gift for my sister. I already drew like 27 of 35 pages and you can already guess which ones are still missing and I'm dreading to do. It's a light-hearted and fun comic, but I did throw in an action scene at the end just to make things a little more interesting. Thing is-- I can't even do the storyboard for fight scenes cause I don't know which poses to use. It's pretty stupid since I could take any pose and make it dynamic, but I can't imagine what this fight is supposed to look like, it's really hard to get into this stuff..
I love your videos because they are packed with great information! This is a good example of that! When you get the chance, can you please also make a video on shading? I’m amazed how shading can transform an image. I have seen many examples of art process tutorials that start off showing just the flats and then are totally transformed when shading is added. I’m very interested to learn more about creating different types of shading. I want to learn how to use shading to portray different environments and moods.
I'll think about that. Everything I do with comic art is about making it as simple as possible so that making comics is as fast as possible, because it takes a long time to make them. So I tend to lean on simple shading versus any type of beautiful, realistic, technical, time-consuming shading ;-)
@@walterostlie I think what you’re saying makes sense. I wasn’t sure whether or not to ask because your comic ‘Haxor’ has simple shading, which implies that you’re probably not as much of a fan of complex shading. However, I think you explain how to create comics very well, even using examples that are not directly related to your own style. I like how thorough and informative your videos are and I enjoy watching them. I feel that shading is an important part of creating comic art. Shading can come in many different styles and it does involve technical aspects on various levels. But even if we ignore shading style and aesthetics, shading is a very important tool for creating a mood and sending a message across. Knowing how to use shading to portray the different moods of characters and scenes would be an amazing skill to have. I wish I could learn techniques to use shading effectively in scenes. Also, I’m interested to learn about shortcuts that will make the process faster. For my style, I do care about the aesthetics of shading and I tend to gravitate towards softer shading. I might not find many tutorials in the exact style that I prefer but I think that learning good technique will allow me to apply it to any style I choose. I think it’s ideal if comic art could be done fast but I also think it depends on the story that the artwork is created for. I feel that the art needs to fit the story, whether the style allows it to be finished fast or slow. It would be boring if all comic art styles had the same type of shading. Variety is important. Anyway, I thought I would suggest this topic because I have found all of your instructional videos on comic creation very helpful. It’s up to you whether or not you feel that this is a topic you can cover. No matter the case, I’m always interested in the comic videos that you share :)
One question Do webtoon artists take real photos edit them using photoshop and use them as backgrounds for their comics ? Like i mean can i do that with my webtoon? Btw ur the most humble and original artist 👍 Lots of love ❤❤❤
I see multiple webtoons that take real life photos and use them for backgrounds. Some edit them very little. Some edit a lot to make it less noticeable that the image came from a photo. It just depends on whatever style you are going for. :)
@@SHALINIMSWAROOPif you look at the backgrounds in the comic Mortalfied you will see that the majority of the backgrounds, especially shots of cars or the insides of cars are photos www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/mortalfied/list?title_no=23604 If you looks at some of the backgrounds in the comic Malice www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/malice/list?title_no=267768 you will notice many appear to be photos especially photos of trees. Hope this helps. ☺️
Yess!!!! Action scenes!!!!! Damn ive been searching videos about this. My webcomic also has a lot of action scenes and this was totally what i needed. So thank you!!! A small request y'all, can i get some love? Tomorrow's my birthday and i could really use some right now. Cause im not sure whether to celebrate or not.....
will you do a video on pacing? because for me at the moment,im not sure if i am too fast,or too slow,a video giving us an example and advise on that could help a lot especially for me
Ty sm for this! Do you have any tips or sources for magic battles? I'm struggling a lot with magic effects and choreography, and most stuff I find about action scenes are about physical fights only :c
What do you mean by big? When we talk about size of a webtoon we usually discuss the size in increments of panel count. Are you asking how many episodes your story should have? That's really tough to say. There is no rule, just as many as you need to tell your story. 25-35 panels is a decent panel count per episode though.
Hi Walter! Great video! I definitely have found myself making that non-dynamic straight on action shot with the panel as more of a passive reader kind of pose - It's been challenging drawing at those foreshortened angles. I'll definitely keep those in mind! Q's about your Patreon: Q1 - Any chance of you increasing your Mentorship from 1 to 2 in the future? Q2 - If someone gets the VIP Comic Critique can they postpone the meeting for a couple of months? Just landed a paid gig (yay!) so I have the cash but not the time to get my Vol 1 project to thumbnails stage until Jan/Feb :o
I just read Murrz's recent episode.. So there's this scene where she runs like crazy and her body with some of the surrounding is super blurry... so what effect is it or how did she did that... plz tell
Most likely a digital effect or filter. Most drawing programs have a way to do a motion or gaussian blur effect filter. Look at your programs menu to see
Hey, i just wanted to thank you in advance, because i was making a manga but i switched to making a webtoon cause of certain circumstances. You really help me a lot on how i start making it. i already have the story and the charakter sheets so hopefully i can start to upload soon. There is just one thing i dont want to do and that is to simplify my art. Do you have any tips that i can make it as detailed as possible but still save me time? Anyways you got a new sub here with me^^ Hope you're doing good
Making characters more detailed Is going to take up more time than simplifying them, no matter what. But to make things quicker you could make certain details into a brush (I see this done with jewellery mostly), or have a canvas with some of the details on it that you could just copy and paste. Most of the art styles I see on webtoon aren't that detailed , they're just constructed well. Lots of comic artists will also reuse their panels and just zoom in. I notice this mostly in 'I'm the Grimreaper', where it will be the same panel just zooming in over & over again on a characters face. Or another common one is reusing a panel but changing the facial expression. I wouldn't worry about the complexity or simplicity of your style much though as it's going to change anyway. Most webtoons have a glowup where the original art looks nothing like the latest art. Just see what works for you. Time yourself inking and colouring with a few different styles and see what one takes the least amount of time.
Thank you for you answer. You really took your time writing it. I appreciate that!! Webtoon Coomunity in general seems to be really nice^^ Im happy that i joined here
Some tips for action scenes
• 180 DEGREE RULE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
• clarity over making it look cool. Alot of animes make this mistake, especially with the part about lunging straight at the screen and then having the camera totally tilt in a different direction, unless your going for that.
• based on my experience, bigger panels have more impact while smaller ones make things go faster.• explosions and flashes are good for transitions.
• Focus on injuries helps to slow time down and convey the strenth of the attack.
• Facial expressions slow time down too since the person has time to react. Closing in on details does the same.
• Your anatomy doesn't have to be perfect in every panel, just make the action clear, believable and energetic.
Hope this was helpful! If you have other tips you can drop them down below!!
thanks
Awesome! You just gave me the outline for my next action video ;-)
i think in my opinion you can break it but with very detailed camera movements, as it slowly pans across the battle scene, or detailed transitions,just a jump cut would NOT work ofcorse and i personally knew this without even knowing the rule itself,for me it was natural,just flipping 2 peoples position with a sudden cut is unnatural and confusing
@@walterostlie glad I could help ^^
Love these! I struggle so much with dynamic movement but having a webcomic and forcing myself out of my comfort zone is seriously helping!
2:36 is that trump Getting smacked in the face? 🤣🤣
I've no idea what you're talking about.
@@walterostlie aham 😏
LMAOO
I laughed when the guy was running from the car lol
1:45
I highly recommend solo leveling for some sick action scenes to study!!
This is the most easy understood educational comic "how to" for me.
Awesome. Really happy to hear that.
I don't draw any webtoon, i don't even draw but i love watching these video, you make this look like a really easy thing, thank you very much 😁
Hah, thanks. You should draw some silly comic, you may have fun
THIS!!! I needed this so bad!! Advice on the actual face getting smashed in! I was struggling with this so bad! Thank you yet again! Intensely smashing button!!!!
Face smashing is a great skill to have.
Awesome! Really helpful video, thank you so much
Thank you
Seriously, do you read minds? This is what I really needed!
i'm working on my new webtoon and these videos are very helpful... thank you for taking the time to post them :)
this is so help full thanks a lot dude u rock
EXTREME SQUIGGLES! 😂 I love how this is super helpful and also funny at the same!! 😂👍💕
The punch and the bored face: Saitama 😂
Yea, the exception to the rule ;)
*intensely subscribes*
this is really helpful thank you 😊
I'm literally a doll this dude just tells me what to do I just follow lol
This is the tutorial that i need, thank you so much Walter !!! 💜💜
I would love a future video on action scenes to tackle making vertical action scenes. I find a lot of comics tips about drawing action, especially big *amaze* action panels relies on people using the width of a full page panel, so that you can stack cinematic "wide screen" shots on a page and I just find that method way less impressive on webtoon, with it's tiny screen and scrolling mechanism. You don't get the same oomph as a wide shot on a page, because there just isn't that width on a phone.
As a result, I feel like I'm trying to come up with ways of doing "amaze" panels for fight scenes on my own a bit? Like, I think I've figured out some of the basics, like drawing characters on an angle so one character is kind of "overtop" of another, and I try to pay attention to the power dynamics that suggests. But I need more! More help!!!!
So any tips on using the vertical format to our advantage would be awesome!
Thanks as ever for the awesome vid!
That's a great idea for a video. I'll try to gather my thoughts on that and make a video, but I think you're on the right track with what you're doing.
Thank you for making another really helpful video and helping me to take my mind off of everything going on right now. Action scenes can be difficult. Something that I sometimes struggle with (that you might consider making a video about) is where to place the camera for dramatic effect. Sometimes I will know where I want to place the characters in a shot but I will struggle with where to place the camera to get the most dramatic impact. I think you may have made a video that touches on this already, but it can sometimes be hard to decide when you want to place the camera up high or down low, when to do a dramatic close up or pan out. Please correct me though if you have already done a video about this. :)
Oooo I am also interested in this!
Another great video idea. Thanks! I'll put it together.
WOW this channel is awesome! And your thumbnails are SO EYE GRABBING! YOu definitely deserve so much more subs!
Always punch with an angry poo face! We love your videos Walter... super informative as well as super entertaining !
SUPER AMAZING!! Its really great to see you so confident in your intros as well as promoting yourself! I stumbled upon one of your reallyyyy old videos and you've come an extremely long way, proud!!
Oh no ;-) Was it one of the ones I recorded from a Twitch stream? Cause those ones are pretty painful.
@@walterostlie Ah yes I think so! It was one where you talked about your comic thumbnails!
Hi! First of all, I'd like to give you a massive THANK YOU for all those videos! They're all very constructive and are helping me a lot making my Webtoon project. I like it that you take it straight to the point and your tips are very useful.
So as for problems I have with actions scenes, I was wondering how you would do magic users fight? My comic is all about wizards and stuff and I just can't seem to figure out how to make magic looks "badass"
Thank you very much and I wish you the best!
Omg!! This is awesome 😭❤️ i didnt even think about having the action going a certain direction to follow the readers eye movements. Mind blown again 😔🤯
You alaways seem to know exactly what I need!!
Thank you, I need this for my webtoon!
Glad you liked it. Thanks!
Watching walters Action videos AS I AM DRAWING ACTION SCENE'S
Definitely helpful for Triple Threat!
Oh now i started noticing i used the side view for of most my scenes :o thanks for pointimg that out, now i will try to pay better attention to angles ;)
This is just what I needed! An action scene is coming soon in my comic and I was wondering how I should approach it haha
goodluck!! Have you started publishing? I would love to read it
@@saranimator6746 thank you!! Yes, it's called Cupcake and Bear on webtoons! :)
@@rainymarch8748 aaa I'll surely check it out!
@@saranimator6746 ty!! i appreciate it!!
Is it possible to make & publish a webtoon from just an iPad?
Yeah, I’m working on my webtoon on my iPad. My recommended app is procreate but you can use others as well, what will it be called?
@@jollyelmroot Definitely Procreate, until Clip Studio Paint drops its subscription model.
yeah it is! There's a lot of digital/comic art drawing app out there and some are free too!
@@Germania9
Yeah I’m kind of interested in clip studio b/c of all it’s aspects but it’s way to expensive and I’m all for buying out the app/ free alternatives.
A free one is Ibis paint
how would u draw like a 5 (good guys) vs 1(villain) fight scene? for a future webcomic i'm planning on making
Those are tough. First make sure you know what needs to happen in the story. Obviously who wins, but also which character needs to look tough, which one needs to be beat up really bad with maybe a massive boulder. Then think about the location of the fight and where everyone is standing. Make sure to keep that in mind when you are drawing your panels. Finally make sure you thumbnail the entire fight first before you start really drawing any one panel. Make sure it works as stick figures first.
@@walterostlie THANKS!!! 😀
I gotta finish a comic until christmas cause it's a gift for my sister. I already drew like 27 of 35 pages and you can already guess which ones are still missing and I'm dreading to do. It's a light-hearted and fun comic, but I did throw in an action scene at the end just to make things a little more interesting. Thing is-- I can't even do the storyboard for fight scenes cause I don't know which poses to use. It's pretty stupid since I could take any pose and make it dynamic, but I can't imagine what this fight is supposed to look like, it's really hard to get into this stuff..
This is awesome it's just what I need for my webcomic!!!😄❤️ Thank you so much for the help 👍
Tysm for making videos
You made my day
I would like to know how to color action scenes especially if we choose to replace some of the linework with squiggle lines!
Oh yeah, I wouldn't have thought about that, but it's a good one, coloring action scenes has its own techniques
Walter! I admire you so so so much and I would love to interview you for my art Podcast. Where could I reach you to talk about this?
I love your videos because they are packed with great information! This is a good example of that!
When you get the chance, can you please also make a video on shading? I’m amazed how shading can transform an image. I have seen many examples of art process tutorials that start off showing just the flats and then are totally transformed when shading is added. I’m very interested to learn more about creating different types of shading. I want to learn how to use shading to portray different environments and moods.
I'll think about that. Everything I do with comic art is about making it as simple as possible so that making comics is as fast as possible, because it takes a long time to make them. So I tend to lean on simple shading versus any type of beautiful, realistic, technical, time-consuming shading ;-)
@@walterostlie I think what you’re saying makes sense. I wasn’t sure whether or not to ask because your comic ‘Haxor’ has simple shading, which implies that you’re probably not as much of a fan of complex shading. However, I think you explain how to create comics very well, even using examples that are not directly related to your own style. I like how thorough and informative your videos are and I enjoy watching them.
I feel that shading is an important part of creating comic art. Shading can come in many different styles and it does involve technical aspects on various levels. But even if we ignore shading style and aesthetics, shading is a very important tool for creating a mood and sending a message across. Knowing how to use shading to portray the different moods of characters and scenes would be an amazing skill to have.
I wish I could learn techniques to use shading effectively in scenes. Also, I’m interested to learn about shortcuts that will make the process faster. For my style, I do care about the aesthetics of shading and I tend to gravitate towards softer shading. I might not find many tutorials in the exact style that I prefer but I think that learning good technique will allow me to apply it to any style I choose.
I think it’s ideal if comic art could be done fast but I also think it depends on the story that the artwork is created for. I feel that the art needs to fit the story, whether the style allows it to be finished fast or slow. It would be boring if all comic art styles had the same type of shading. Variety is important.
Anyway, I thought I would suggest this topic because I have found all of your instructional videos on comic creation very helpful. It’s up to you whether or not you feel that this is a topic you can cover. No matter the case, I’m always interested in the comic videos that you share :)
Awesome video, thanks for the content ^^
Great as always
One question
Do webtoon artists take real photos edit them using photoshop and use them as backgrounds for their comics ? Like i mean can i do that with my webtoon?
Btw ur the most humble and original artist 👍
Lots of love ❤❤❤
I see multiple webtoons that take real life photos and use them for backgrounds. Some edit them very little. Some edit a lot to make it less noticeable that the image came from a photo. It just depends on whatever style you are going for. :)
Thanks man 👍
Would u mind telling me one of them😛
@@SHALINIMSWAROOPif you look at the backgrounds in the comic Mortalfied you will see that the majority of the backgrounds, especially shots of cars or the insides of cars are photos www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/mortalfied/list?title_no=23604
If you looks at some of the backgrounds in the comic Malice www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/malice/list?title_no=267768 you will notice many appear to be photos especially photos of trees.
Hope this helps. ☺️
THANK YOU SOO MUCH!!!!! ❤❤
@@SHALINIMSWAROOP no problem
Yess!!!! Action scenes!!!!! Damn ive been searching videos about this.
My webcomic also has a lot of action scenes and this was totally what i needed. So thank you!!!
A small request y'all, can i get some love?
Tomorrow's my birthday and i could really use some right now.
Cause im not sure whether to celebrate or not.....
man he is so underrated
Thanks! Maybe one day :)
will you do a video on pacing? because for me at the moment,im not sure if i am too fast,or too slow,a video giving us an example and advise on that could help a lot especially for me
I'll try. Pacing is really specific to the intention of the story. The best way to tell is ask someone to read your story and see what they think.
@@walterostlie alright then, but I'll still be looking forward for your video
3:52 literally One Punch Man
Ty sm for this! Do you have any tips or sources for magic battles? I'm struggling a lot with magic effects and choreography, and most stuff I find about action scenes are about physical fights only :c
Yeah, magic can be a little tricky. Let me think about a video for that
@@walterostlie wow, that would be awesome!! Thank you 🥰
Uuuh mabye watch some animes?
@@saranimator6746 I watch way too much anime 😅 Although I do appreciate any recommendations specifically for magic battles
Hey Walter I am trying to make a action webtoon I was wondering how big should a 25 to 35 panel webtoon be
What do you mean by big? When we talk about size of a webtoon we usually discuss the size in increments of panel count. Are you asking how many episodes your story should have? That's really tough to say. There is no rule, just as many as you need to tell your story. 25-35 panels is a decent panel count per episode though.
@@walterostlie I mean the pixels size for a 25 to 35 panel chapter
oh. well at least 800 px wide. The length is whatever it takes. Anywhere from 20,000 to 150,000. I'd say prolly around 50-70,000 pixels tall.
@@walterostlie ok thx
Awesome
Hi Walter! Great video! I definitely have found myself making that non-dynamic straight on action shot with the panel as more of a passive reader kind of pose - It's been challenging drawing at those foreshortened angles. I'll definitely keep those in mind!
Q's about your Patreon: Q1 - Any chance of you increasing your Mentorship from 1 to 2 in the future? Q2 - If someone gets the VIP Comic Critique can they postpone the meeting for a couple of months? Just landed a paid gig (yay!) so I have the cash but not the time to get my Vol 1 project to thumbnails stage until Jan/Feb :o
I just read Murrz's recent episode.. So there's this scene where she runs like crazy and her body with some of the surrounding is super blurry... so what effect is it or how did she did that... plz tell
Most likely a digital effect or filter. Most drawing programs have a way to do a motion or gaussian blur effect filter. Look at your programs menu to see
@@walterostlie Ok i'll definitely... thanks though
Hey, i just wanted to thank you in advance, because i was making a manga but i switched to making a webtoon cause of certain circumstances. You really help me a lot on how i start making it. i already have the story and the charakter sheets so hopefully i can start to upload soon. There is just one thing i dont want to do and that is to simplify my art. Do you have any tips that i can make it as detailed as possible but still save me time?
Anyways you got a new sub here with me^^ Hope you're doing good
Making a webtoon is easier tbh
But its still different. I wouldnt call it easier for me cause i still want to draw in a higher resolution so i can put my details in there.
Making characters more detailed Is going to take up more time than simplifying them, no matter what. But to make things quicker you could make certain details into a brush (I see this done with jewellery mostly), or have a canvas with some of the details on it that you could just copy and paste. Most of the art styles I see on webtoon aren't that detailed , they're just constructed well. Lots of comic artists will also reuse their panels and just zoom in. I notice this mostly in 'I'm the Grimreaper', where it will be the same panel just zooming in over & over again on a characters face. Or another common one is reusing a panel but changing the facial expression. I wouldn't worry about the complexity or simplicity of your style much though as it's going to change anyway. Most webtoons have a glowup where the original art looks nothing like the latest art. Just see what works for you. Time yourself inking and colouring with a few different styles and see what one takes the least amount of time.
Thank you for you answer. You really took your time writing it. I appreciate that!! Webtoon Coomunity in general seems to be really nice^^
Im happy that i joined here
@@nivahriart Which software are you using? I'm using MediBang and Clip Studio
Check out my webtoon series (it's on hiatus btw) www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/journey-to-elysium/list?title_no=338074
🍎
saitama be like 3:51