Mikasa can create timelines (AOE)
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- aoetheory
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Hello! I need to point out something: In the last episode, the scene where she "remembers" the Cabin Timeline, the memory comes with the heartbeat and the headache. See, just before the memory, when they are going to Eren's mouth. The cabin reality was made by her in the middle of despair. "I want to go back to our home".
After Eren's decapitation, she sees Ymir and thanks her. In that moment, suddenly a non explained reality appears, where Ymir did not killed herself. That's why Mikasa was choosed by Ymir: because of Mikasa decision of killing Eren, she created a reality where Ymir was free.
But do you know why she can in the first place? Eren gave her that ability, by touching Dina Fritz hand, activating the founder and making a new vow. Eren bypassed the Karl Fritz vow to renounce war, and made a new vow on accident by touching Dina, a titan with royal blood.
If someone wanted to bypass a vow, like Mr Ksaver (Zeke's Father figure) says, they need a person with The Founding Titan, and Titan of Royal blood. Eren made this vow by saying, I'll wrap this scarf around you, as many times as you want. Until now and forever
WOW
Nah but they touched dina in s2 but how she has the power even in 1st timeline or even under the tree or in that OVA8th which Is a whole ass different one
@@yagamilight9902 bruh the ova is literally a branch off of the anime timeline. The first timeline in the cabin is where it all started, so eren did it again each time by accident without knowing. Cabin Eren didn't know he made the vow, Manga Eren didn't know he made the vow. Only Anime Eren knows
@@yagamilight9902 wtf do you mean how does she have the power in first timeline? Lmao she got it from season 2 but in the cabin. Thats the first time it ever happens. We only see 2 moments of the cabin timeline, mikasa and eren talking, and eren's death. We don't see anything else in that timeline. Thats the timeline where it all started, so thats where he made the vow first. Then he made it again in the manga. Then he made it again in the anime but this time he's underground in a warhammer crystal on paradis. He saw the manga timeline when entering pathes. So he knew alliance would stop him, after he saw the memories and everything he acted different
@@ericko1955 but now he's still dumb like not thinking of that vow right.. yet maybe? Idk but suddenly who's gonna give him that knowledge-
So basically the whole story is about Eren trying to grant Mikasa's wishes and give her the best life out of all the possibilities, but the one thing she actually wants is impossible
Yoo ._.
Partially, yes .
with this theory i just realized that both eren and mikasa really tried hard to create a reality where they really can be together by moving time lines, manipulating the past and its sad because they had no choice
its just cruel
Hello! I need to point out something: In the last episode, the scene where she "remembers" the Cabin Timeline, the memory comes with the heartbeat and the headache. See, just before the memory, when they are going to Eren's mouth. The cabin reality was made by her in the middle of despair. "I want to go back to our home".
After Eren's decapitation, she sees Ymir and thanks her. In that moment, suddenly a non explained reality appears, where Ymir did not killed herself. That's why Mikasa was choosed by Ymir: because of Mikasa decision of killing Eren, she created a reality where Ymir was free.
Can you please explain what unexplained timeline u mentioned, didn't get ur last point,what reality mikasa created where ymir is free?is it related to eren?
@@MdMalk746 ua-cam.com/video/1Xuz-3r-U2s/v-deo.html
Look what suddenly appears, when Mikasa thanks Ymir. It looks like Mikasa gain conscious of her power and give Ymir a reality where she do not sacrifice for Fritz
@@aoetheory33 ah ok but what has it to do with eren?
So I guess maybe since eren s final moments came close(since his dying titan marks started to appear),she killed him since she can create a new timeline with him and to just stop the rumbling since it's his final moments already no? That "see you later" moment
That was exactly what I thought about and I wonder why no body notes that !!
@@aoetheory33 sounds like a theory. It could also be an utopian vision of what she could've have given that she's full of remorse.
The eerie music and the slow captions really give a feeling of dread and realization. No wonder Eren’s head was so messed up. Controlling reality, manipulation it, visiting other realities, and changing them as well, but all in an instant. So Eren was destined to die in most of the realities. DANM IT!Hajime Isayama is so cruel. But at the same time it’s beautiful. I would rather legitimately cut my finger off then having the Founder titan. Thinking about the power and mind boggling realities it can manipulate is extremely scary. Well, thank you for this video. It has given me more insight of Attack On Titan.
the only ending that would made sense is eren ending titans and let eldians be castrated. i mean,.if its all gonna wnd the same, why bother?
I predicted Eren killed his mom with how the power worked, where is the hallucgenia
@@bruhism173Hallucigenia is the Source of all living Matter
The Hallu can give whatever Power the host Want
Ymir wanted to be alive and be safe so the Hallucigenia gave her a Titan Power
Then she didn't want to die But Frits didn't love her so Hallucigenia made for Her The Paths
Maybe the Paths can make Alt Timelines/ Universes
So i am not Sure
This made me realise I had missed the release of this OVA completely. Perhaps that’s the Ackerman’s power, travel across the paths to the timeline that suits them to get the resolution they want. Mikasa drove the world to the point where she had no choice but to kill Eren or let the world die but also because she did, the curse of the titans ended.
More like Azumabito not the Ackerman bcz we NEVER seen Levi or Kenny experiencin that ONLY Mikasa
@@rihamashraf4493 I thought about it too but the mother didn’t seem to have it or didn’t know how to use it. Perhaps she didn’t have the trigger same way Mikasa’s dad died without awakening his powers apparently
Why I thought that Kenny and Levi might have it was because they seemed to survive everything they did to get their goal. So made me wonder if off camera they were doing that subconsciously and not remembering, same way Mikasa seemed to forget her previous attempts and come back as random memories. I’m just speculating of course but being able to change an outcome of a fight would be a way to make sure one wins incredible odds. And Kenny seemed to die once his dream delusions died too
@@LegendoftheGalacticHero I was thinking it just was just Ymir gift. as we already know that Ymir is interested in Mikasa decision.
2:23 I love that you included this point. I was always confused as to why mikasa was apologising to her mother but with your explanation of the timeline theory it makes a lot of sense
Thanks
How? We were told why Mikasa apologized to her mother. It has nothing to do with diferent timelines lol she just felt guilty for wishing on something selfish for herself and not for her mothers health
@@sofiakaos5278 she caused that selfishness. She realized that her wishes to see eren were affecting her mother and she apologized to her mom for it. If you read the manga it does much better than the anime
@@JojoSmacks you... clearly missunderstood. She does apologize for that reason because she is a kid, she thinks its her fault that her mother got sick but it was not. Mikasa had no powers to make her mother sick
@@sofiakaos5278yes but the will to see Eren makes situation like this
She doesn't create them on purpose, I believe we can all agree there.
yes i believe that she knows that she doesnt have that power, its like wishing for something really hard a then actually getting it, youre happy because you got what you wanted but youre not gonna think " i got that because i have the power to get the things that i wish for", you will put it on luck or hardwork, not because you wished it
Yeah. When its not on purpose you can see how cruel their world is :(
This is what I was thinking after many reads and watches
My interpretation goes like this...
As you said, Mikasa had the power to alter reality (which eventually creates a new timeline).
She was searching for all possible realities where she could live a happy life with Eren and fulfilling Eren's dream (freedom/peace). She knew that was not gonna happen because the world outside the walls was different from what Eren thought. So, as I said, she started searching for all possibilities...
And failed to accomplish both in a single reality. If they lived happily, the paradis gonna be retaliated and everyone gets destroyed. If the paradis was saved, then they dont get a chance to live together.
The headache is the side effect of that. She started remembering a large number of memories from the reality she had created.
The final memory mikasa had on the falco bird is NOT something that eren did. If he did so, he'll be unable to erase her memory (due to ackermen being immune to any kind of memory wipe), which will make mikasa changing of mind in this reality (my guess ).
Coming back, that's a memory from a reality that she created where they lived the last moments of eron in the cabin, letting the paradis to be retaliated. we can see after that memory mikasa wrap the scarf around ( like she was satisfied with that reality) and determined to move on and kill eren in this reality.
So what about ymirs and eren's (attack titan) powers? Aren't they able to do something about mikasa's reality alterations?
Well, ymir only had the influence over her subjects and not ackermen, likewise the eren only had the power to have glimpse of memories of the future inheritor. eron is totally unaware of mikasa's power.
To wrap things up, Mikasa's power has been a mystery from the beginning, i assume it's all been her choices throughout the show. 🙂
Yeah, this may be canon. Also, in the final manga volume, Mikasa says specifically: "so, you were the thing inside my head", talking about Ymir.
This means that Ymir gave Mikasa the power, because Ymir wanted to know what would Mikasa do with Eren. And after watching her kill Eren, Ymir went back in time to protect her daughters.
So, I think the entire history of aot was just a second in Ymir's life, ans she created the entire aot timeline just to see what would Mikasa do. Eren also says that: "Ymir wanted to see someone", but that someone was not Eren. It was Mikasa.
So, the title: "to you, 2000 years from now", is just Ymir talking to Mikasa.
Just isayama being genius
🤡
Im pretty sure that Mikasa tried many other alternative timelines to extend more of Eren's lifetime so she can spend more time with him longer, but it seemed that AOT timeline is the best one.
I've been waiting for you to release this video for a while, and man i’m so glad you finally did it, great vid can’t wait the next ones
Thanks!
Levi and Mikasa both, sense the rocks coming towards them without looking at them, in the scene where the plane is brought over the Founding Titan.
do you mean the rocks that zeke's beast titan threw? and i don't understand what that has to do with this video.
@@lorenzobortolani5286 yes those rocks. Also, in every scene where something sudden happens (like Reiner coming out of the wall, jaw titan jumping on Eren), Levi is always seen already moving when everyone is being shown just reacting to what just happened.
Ackerman blood
@@mukarramkamal5432 right, got you, but I still don’t get if that has to do something with mikasa’s ability to warp reality
"This is NOT a theory. This is an explanation of what is explicit on the story."
When fans propose a theory, they are using just that definition. An explanation of a narrative's observables.
True. But sadly people wrongfully associate the word theory with made up baseless ideas. It happens to scientific theories as well.
"it is all just a theory"~
this just proves how tragic the love between eren and mikasa is. No matter how many timelines she makes, no matter how many times Eren changes the past, they could never be together. Eren will always die before her and the only way he won't, is that she forgets him which means they could only live without each other. this just makes me want to cry more.
but i still don't understand how could he live if she forgets him, since he would still have the ymir curse upon him
She has infinite chances to pursue freedom with Eren. She will win eventually. No different than Ymir. Except she lives on the wings of freedom, and a desire to be with her beloved who shares her emotions.
Interesting. The blue butterfly is most definitely a nod to the iconic blue butterfly in Life is Strange, which is present when protagonist Max discovers her powers of time manipulation. Other big similarities follow. SPOILERS for LIS below but I'll be vague and won't completely ruin things.
Max spends the whole story using her time manipulation powers to try to save the person she loves, but no matter what she does, it's like destiny itself has marked this person for death. In the end, this person is about to be responsible for the destruction of the town and the deaths of most of its citizens. Max has to choose whether or not to sacrifice this person to save the town. Some of the specifics are too similar to be a coincidence imo, so LIS was likely an inspiration.
That game came out years after AoT came out, both Life is Strange and AoT reference the butterfly effect theory, which suggests that the world is interconnected and that one small action can influence a large and complex outcome where the same action can cause many different outcomes all leading to the same thing sooner or later
Great theory
LOVING the deep creepy Atmospheric music and the music addition/edit on almost each scene is very suiting.
7:20 mess of memories
Timelines merging
"This is not a theory" lmao
So that's why we see a pomegranate in the anime when she thinks she's going to die! Each pomegranate seed refers to a reality in fact :o
Moreover, we only see the pomegranate in the anime and not in the manga ! And at that moment she asks herself if she has to start everything anew again (yet) !
twitter.com/aoetheory/status/1496628298713079808?s=20
This is the explanation to the Pomegranade, and brings to AOE too.
@@aoetheory33 Thanks a lot 👍
So Mikasa didn't reach the Steins Gate Timeline where everybody lives.
She wasn't a mad scientist
EL PSY CONGRO...
Most of this is generally correct, but not everything is "related to an addiction" to Eren, and he certainly doesn't see his relationship with Mikasa as parasitic. He loves her very much, especially in any timeline where he learns about her powers because that helps tremendously to understand Mikasa. The problem is that, in most timelines, if Mikasa tells Eren about the powers, it accomplishes nothing because he can't do anything in most timelines, so she tends to keep him in the dark. The exception to this is if he enters the paths and gets Ymir's blessing.
This is because Eren sees a vision of the original timeline's Mikasa when he enters the paths. Using that in conjunction with his fully awakened founding powers from Ymir's blessing, he can send that memory to Mikasa (only possible with her permission, since's she's an Ackerman) which she can then use in conjunction with her time looping powers to return them all to the original timeline (non AoT universe).
OAV s are Bonus explanations. Literally Manga and Anime are enough to explain everything.
The Manga see you later event 1 and 138 explain perfectly the ability of Mikasa:
>Cry, pushed to the limits, Will to go home = Project herself into cabin alternative reality.
Wake up crying, long dream, memories.
Chapter1: Eren after « see you later » black. He wakes up Crying, long dream, memories.
Who has the Will to do anything ? Mikasa WANTS to see him later.
Eren GOT projected into the start of all the story by Mikasa.
But it’s a bit more complicated if you connect the Manga and Anime.
But yeah OAVs are details Bonus.
That no one wants to consider 😢
Source Material should explain everything that’s why no one believes.
not sure but in the ost Barricades there's a line that goes like you know you had to kill her, kill her, oh my dirty hands it never fades, I've watched almost all the ost, ops, and eds just to read the lyrics, and god if the short versions hinted at AOE then the full version of each hint at AOE even more, besides that good video
Yes. Thanks.
Am i the only one who accidentally sang the whole comment with the barricade theme😂
are y’all still coping?
@@jimbo7551 that was 8 months ago, but I'm not sure anymore, it would be cool if it happens but if it doesn't oh well I'm just going to move on.
Isn't that about Eren killing his mom
NOW THATS A REAL TWIST
This is insane! I really love it! ♡
There is also other evidence here. (SPOILERS)
In the episode when Pieck was about to detonate Eren's neck. Mikasa shouted wait, if she wasn't prepared for Eren to die yet, and the warhammer titan suddenly appeared behind Pieck stop her.
Not the right evident.
All the titan eren summoned is tasked to HELP eren complete rumbling. If they tries to blow up erens head, the titans will prevent it.
@@BaiproI think both is correct, but for mikasa’s decision on denying she was wasn’t ready for Eren to die yet is pretty indirect
idc if this is canon or not hell even could be complete nonsense. the idea itself gives me immense pleasure thx for sharing!
AOT is really well written.
This is like lovecraftian shit and i love it
sounds interesting but i didnt understand anything in the end xD
I swear, glad I’m not the only one
Mikasa changed the timeline to be with eren in ova the men didn't kill her father and mother but eren died so she changed the timeline so eren can live with her
100 % sure there are 3 time line...
Mikasa is time traveller.. We thought eren can see. Future😂😂 but actually he saw his previous life memory
thats 100% fake Bro 😂 stupid theory ahhaha, if there Will be the same ending as the manga this theory Will completly fall
@@Aaza___58 how can surely says. This. Have you forget that man who explain everything to little mikasa about the death of eren..
@@sharphuntergaming1457 not Canon + the 3 timelines theory its not possibile since anime and manga are the same timeline lol + eren can see the future, its literally his Power and he says It
@@Aaza___58canon or not .. this is aot
@@sharphuntergaming1457This is a theory tho if the author never says or confirms it's a fact
But youre wrong. Eren made the Cabin Scene for them to spend time with each other, while it was a second in real life, it was 4 years for them. Mikasa didnt make that reality, it was Eren making it within Paths. Did you miss like the whole thing?
It wasn't "within paths". It was the second reality prior to the last one.
That's how Eren talked with the rest, but for Mikasa it was different. Eren decided not to talk to her that's why he whined to Armin about Mikasa moving on from him.
@@leontoeides no it was within the paths , it was real , in this timeline. In all the other lines , he dies prior to this even happening.
@@subratanandy2142 according to you? lol
Also, what are you not understanding?
Yes, the cabin timeline was the previous timeline prior to the last one. The last one being the manga/anime's. After Eren dies there he suddenly recovers those memories in the first chapter waking up from "a long dream". Long dreams are past timelines.
I think even though she will try again, she can nevee save Eren from death. I believe at the end, she accepted it when she borrowed him under the tree
When Eren said, “I had a really long dream.”, isn’t that The Founding Titan’s power’s😭😭
the nature of this show is cyclical, eren wakes up from his long dream in the first episode, exactly when mikasa slices his head off in the last. That's why he was crying once awake. The fact that mikasa finally accepted his death and ymir stopped the curse for the eldians made him cry. One of the best stories i ever had the pleasure to witness. Full circle again, and again. Beautiful.
I fond this perspective on mikasa very intresting
Thoughts before watching the video:
Not sure how I feel about this if it is true since we only see one timeline throughout all of the main story in AOT. I will say tho that if it is true then it probably still has to do with Eren or that Eren would have given her that power. I am guessing you might talk about the memory Mikasa got about the log cabin scene, but that one, in my opinion, was made up by Eren, sent to Mikasa using the Attack Titan and Founder Titan together, and basically fake. I am looking forward tho to hearing what you have to say in this video.
Thoughts After watching the video:
Ok, so although some things made sense but I don’t really get it. I know that the timeline that we have watched throughout the anime is a timeline where Eren dies no matter what and the rumbling and all of that happens and so on. I still don’t get Mikasa being able to create timelines without something Eren would have done. The timeline that I have watched in AOT with the rumbling and everything makes almost perfect sense when it comes to everything that happened in it but this does not make much sense, also isn’t Eren the Mirror man?
Eren can NOT send fake memories to Mikasa bcz she's Ackerman/Azumabito which cannot be man1pulated by foundin Titan so what u said is completely wrong
So this most likely another timeline or alternate universe
@@rihamashraf4493 Ackermans are only immune to memory manipulation from the founder titan on its own, not immune to memory manipulation from within the paths which is the way Eren had manipulated her memories.
@@biggamer7245 Eren CANNOT manipulate Mikasa memories in any way that's not how it works + Mikasa isn't just an Ackerman she's an Azumabito so she's the most immune to Eren manipulatin her AL KIND IF MANIPULATIIONS so if Eren was manipulatin her by showing her fake memory she would have known that it seems u h@te Mikasa or her connection to Eren that's why u want to believe it's a fake memory to satisfy urself or how can u explain Eren seein that same memory in first episode/chapter of Manga!!??and it seems u didn't have good understandin of the show cuz if u had u would know that Eren d1ed in that "fake memory" if it's a memory in the paths this doesn't make any sense bcz the paths is a d3athless world we never seen them dyin in the paths so how can u explain Eren dyin!!?? So that's most likely alternate universe or past timeline
@@rihamashraf4493 I know she is Azumabito but just hear me out.
I am not saying you are wrong okay, I am saying this because the lost girls Ova isn’t cannon and Isayama has not said it is cannon, and I don’t hate Mikasa, I know that there are different timelines but let me get things straight.
Isn’t the whole point of the azumabito’s that they are a clan of eldians who acted as an Ally with Marley and they were the ones who did the experiments on Ackermans? They abandoned the people of paradis because of money and because it benefited them.
The azumabito’s themselves should not be any more immune than Mikasa right, how would Eren have even been able to reach them and Mikasa in the paths then? Are you able to give me a better explanation to who the Azumabito were because Isayama made them more like a side plot for the plane and stuff rather than something that is fully explained.
So, does that mean Mikasa is living a happy life with Eren in somewhere another timeline?
I’m hoping for that. And honestly I can see sense in this. For example she was quite calm after cut Eren’s head, she just took it fast and went away, also the fact she said “see you later Eren”. I think she knew she still will be able to meet with him.
No
No. If I'm understanding correctly, the timeline ability is only possible when eren is available in some way or form and are both working in a parasite host synergy. But he's dead now so idk
yes like they did in the cabin
and have lots of sex
If mickasa wants eren to live longer than she will have to kill garisha before he make him founder 😂
Fr
I’ve seen some reaching in my life but my god this theory takes the cake.
Vídeo muito bom, tirou muitas dúvidas que eu tinha sobre a teoria AOE, eu acredito
Boa
Future Eren was a conduit to himself.
Ymir was a conduit to Mikasa.
could you expand on that? please.
@@lorenzobortolani5286 Eren's power to see memories of the future means that he possessed himself like a ghost. He could not go against his own nature and was a prisoner of freedom. He himself was his own cage. The Eren we knew died the moment he kissed Historia's hand, and I mean that literally.
Ymir who is the original titan possesses the same abilities as all her titans. She could peak through the eyes of every subject of Ymir. As it was destined to happen with Eren, her closest window was Mikasa who with she could relate as both were women in great love.
While Eren took over past/present/future Eren's, all Ymir did was backseat inside Mikasa's brain and enjoy the show.
@@stoffelthedestroyer3741 thanks
When this happens, I get the feeling that I'm pity Eren, as Mikasa never let him go and they keep going on the same cycle over and over again. I'm a bit scared if this theory is right, because, Mikasa's love is more of an obsession.
that so good bro
Interesting. The official translation says "the moment I thought that, a scene flashed before my eyes, one from long ago" or some shit like that. Where did you get this "memory" version?
damn great content but wtf is that music it scared the shit out of me
Bro legit went ahead and used anime-only scenes and an OVA as evidence
its called ova for a reason
@@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 Yeah they are not canon, and are not entirely written by Isayama, that theory could only be applicable to those ovas but not the main story for obvious reasons, there is almost 0 solid evidence for this in the main manga
@@mahjoubadam1742 both are still canon though
isayama supervised them
therefore yes, mikasa can create timelines
@@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 Show me half decent evidence for this in the main manga, again it might be true but only for the OVA. There a lot of times in the manga where Mikasa wished for something to change and it didn't
i've been realizing this gives me homura akemi vibes
Using an OVA, which isn’t canon to the main story, as evidence is ludicrous.
And the cabin scene is not a timeline, because Eren has the Founding Titan marks in that scene. If it was a timeline, and he fled with Mikasa before the declaration of war, then he wouldn’t have those marks.
Great work man 👏
Now I can't sleep thinking about it wtf
So, she could have not killed Eren and lived with him alone in a world with basically just them two. But she also did a character 180 what an amazing job! ....
Yes. Really weird, right?
ive been waiting for some shit like this
Man, this video aged like milk, and the comments are already gorgonzola cheese 😅
Hahahahahahahaha
Dang man what a great video. 🔥 Some good stuff here I didn’t catch. Do you think that it’s possible the mirror man was created by Ymir? 🤔
Butterfly effect
... so I have missed an OVA.
But why would Isayama-sensei create this ability of Mikasa?
Is it to legitimize Founder Ymir's choice, or to lay down ground works for future stories?
Yeah. In "AOE" theory, we thought it was Isayama crating the plot for an Anime Original Ending, getting everyone by surprise. But it didn't happened, and Mikasa abilities and multiples realities in AOT kept a mystery. People think that Yams still have a trick to use.
@@aoetheory33Hi i love your vids:3
i see why eren told her that I would've said the same thing like girl MOOOOVVEEEE!
Have ever noticed eren where never really there , he always got captured by the enemy or goes out on his own , basically he always be Mikasa lost person , never really be there in her mind he there as kid she grew up with but reality his Eren meant to die in every other reality she very obsess
this is crazy tbh
Mikasa was the villain from the start😨
It's not a theory
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IF IT IS A FACT LOL
Good content man, I liked it
bro this is crazy
Damn. Keep up my man
It's crazy❤
i dont remember that fly thingy
hey do you have any way to contact you or something? i have some interesting points that you may or may not know about.
@aoetheory on twitter. Contact me there and read my pinned tweets.
this aged well
Good. It really make sense.
My brain it's not braining
I mean bro..think- they didn't have to kill eren in s1ep5 or 6 cuz bruh he literally can just damage himself somewhere and turn into a titan- so they just really put that dying scene and it feels too extra isn't it hdzjdkz that's probably for mikasa to make her moment of thinking about timelines and stuff so we see some hints
So she can change reality like a God-like?
nah This wasn't proven
so it's a Theory
*DAMN!*
Have the animators or the author published a concrete statement about this situation?
No, of course not; it's supposed to be a plot twist
@@ShreyasV0 There is one more thing I want to ask. Most of the proponents of AOE say Mikasa should die. What is the reason of this?
@@atakaninat1811 The reason why Mikasa must die is explained in this video. Because of her inability to forget Eren and accept his death, she keeps creating new timelines where he is alive again. After her peaceful death in the first timeline shown in chapter 138, she would have created the anime timeline. In this timeline Eren explicitly asked her to forget him after drawing the hatred of the world on him to avoid a new reboot. Unfortunately we understand that it did not work because Mikasa was not able to forget Eren ( just like the opposite also happened ). The only way would be that Mikasa no longer has the possibility to create a new timeline and she should therefore die
@@toki8096 Maybe Eren will finish his mission before Mikasa tries to kill him. So Mikasa has no reason to kill him either. I mean , Is it possible to have a scenario where both live?
@@atakaninat1811 All we’re saying here is theory, and nobody has the science or the concrete answer even if they say that. According to the theory, the conclusion that you advance cannot happen because the reason why there are 3 timelines created in snk is Mikasa’s inability to forget Eren and accept his death. For the cycle and the reboot of the timelines to end, we need a different end of the manga. Currently in anime we are at the same point as in manga in chapter 134. Eren opposes the alliance. In manga, Eren has already tried to give Mikasa the duty to kill him while asking him to forget him. He thought that by doing this Mikasa would definitely accept his death but that was not the case because even if she kills him, she clearly says that she cannot forget him and the end of the manga goes in this direction. Knowing that Eren and Mikasa cannot live together, the only remaining solution would be for Eren to kill Mikasa and the alliance. Eren’s "mission", like you saide, in the scale of the anime and the "normal" history of the work is certainly to complete the Rumbling. But from the point of view of the theory, it’s more than that because it’s about putting an end to the creation of timelines. And for that, Mikasa must forget Eren and therefore she must die. On top of that, this "ANR" type of purpose corresponds to the many clues we have in the work and the additional contents. Especially the dead white birds in the opening My War in the number of 11 as in the poster of part 3 and the number of graves in the clip Akatsuki No Requiem ... If you want more info, feel free to read the @aoetheory and @justiceforeren threads on Twitter.
What are your thoughts now
I Ain't No Smart Man.
But I Think That's Called An Imagination.
6:07 what ova or episode is that ?
OVA #8 - Lost in a Cruel World, episode "???" (another timeline).
@@aoetheory33 thanks man
So the AOT is an endless loop. When Eren died, he was under the tree where the anime began. Mikasa is probably trying to change the future so that Eren will survive, so he's protecting him. But she's always failing.
Attack on eitan?
*Area of effect*
What’s the name of the OST 1:45
Found It !
TWO-Lives - Hiroyuki Sawano
Im sorry you didnt understood half of what Isayama worked so hard to craft.
The reason why we only saw what Zeke said about the ackermanns much later in the story is exactly to deny what Eren said to Mikasa before. Its not about what is said first that we are meant to believe, only what is shown last is the truth revealed in every good piece of fiction.
That doesn't disprove the theory, just means Mikasa's obsession is fueled by something else
@@nullboi365 sadly it does, not the fact that Eren was lying no, what trully makes this theory fumble is how little he actually understood from the characters and the story as a whole. If he put the actual facts straight on paper he would also soon realize this theory to be impossible.
Better yet, he should be asking himself why did Eren decided to let his mother be eaten by a titan?
Why and how did he save zeke by the most ex machina move ever, that random pure titan put him in his belly to revive him with the help of Ymir.
Why did Ymir Freckles stayed at the same spot, day and night for 60 years and only woke up right when the warriors were close by.
He didnt even realized that Eren can manipulate pure titans and eldians alike across time and space, thanks to the founder while inside the realm. Mikasa had nothing to do with this. Eren decided to do all of these and more by his own will to keep moving forward to save Eldia.
Make a video of your POV of understanding AOT story then👀, I'll watch it
What is the name of the background song? 😭
Nice Theory!!
So basically she trapped everyone and without knowing it....use everyone again and again and again so maybe one time he can get to live with eren long enough?
Basically
Huh....well..... now.....thats... A yabdere lvl of obsession with someone....
Anyway... Would you mind if i make a video about this theory? My content is in farsi so it won't effect you ... If you dont mind@@aoetheory33
Just dont forget Eren saw Goth girl mikasa 😂😂😂
yo bro it doesnt make sense because all the memories are in the same timeline she only remembers on that time and that scene where eren is taking a nap under the tree is in the 1st episode she cannot create timelines
AND THIS POWER DIDNT ADD NOTHING TO THE STORY !!!
cool text animation
The problem is the ova are spin offs and like that’s not canon but ok
The ova are canon Isayama himself confirmed throwin many hints +attack on school castes he also said he got inspired from "Muv love" game which is about time loops so
@@rihamashraf4493exactly and that’s why we know that the ending doesn’t make sense and that there must be something more. Isayam himself intrthe idea of timelines. Why? The OVA are said to be cannon. So why? Something is up and Isayama is cooking
@@rihamashraf4493 “Isayama himself confirmed” source?
I didn't know that
But now the parasite (hallucigenia or whatever) is killed, the so-called timeline creation isn't work anymore?
Why would a parasite have a 6th dimensional ahh thingy ability. Totally not a hallucigenia at all. It was an alien.
There is no another timeline aot or mikasa altering her reality
It is just memeory add up on the exsting on by ymir or somthing jz this is complex
The ackerbond was a lie from Eren. It was proven during the talk between Zeke and Eren chapter 130. So can you please stop comparing Mikasa to a parasite ? Do you really think Isayama’s plot twist would be to kill off Mikasa because she puts Eren into a loop seriously ?
Plus, at least be humble and say that a it’s a theory. Saying « this is not a theory. This is an explanation of what is explicit on the story » sounds so cocky. Lost in a cruel world has never been confirmed as canon so far. And even though it would be confirmed as canon, it doesn’t mean that everything in it is canon, such as the spin-off Before the fall which has some “canon” elements mixed with a lot of inconsistencies.
I personally believe in alternate realities (and not timeline which is the wrong word) but your view on it is totally biased in my opinion
@@aoetheory33 Hahahah it looks like I triggered you that much. Your reply to me is the mirror of your content : childish and disrespectful. You didn’t even try to understand my comment.
In the episode “The dawn of Humanity”, Isayama is providing some insightful exposition on the Ackerman through Zeke. About the reflex to “protect their host”, he straight up dismiss the idea and tells Eren « her devotion towards you has nothing to do with some forced behavior. I think she just likes you enough to rip apart Titans for you.”. Just so you remember, Zeke is close from Ksaver which is part of the Titan biology research society. Ksaver may be for sure the man that knows the most on the subject matter.
Eren said that to Mikasa after the talk with Zeke because he needed Mikasa and Armin to walk away from him. He was setting up his “Watchmen” plan to protect them. Some of the stuff Eren said was mix of lies and truth, but this specific part about the host was a lie.
You are litteraly ignoring the narrative here and don’t even understand how this medium works.
OVA means Original Video Animation. Yes. But it basically means that an anime is directly release as a BD/DVD (or VHS in the past) rather than in TV or theaters. The fact that there is the word “original” doesn’t mean this is canon 😂 Not at all !
Lost in a cruel world is primarily a spin-off. It was first a Visual Novel and then it as been adapted into a Light Novel, manga and OVA.
I never said that Lost in a cruel world wasn’t canon. I said that it “has never been confirmed as canon so far”. That’s why I told you to be humble ! You are linking a spin-off, not confirmed yet as canon, to the main story and say “this is not a theory”. This is a theory bro. You are shaping your fantasy vision of the work and force it into the narrative.
I understood the OVA the same as you. I am just saying that you need to take a step back and consider different possibilities. Everything in Lost in a cruel world may not be canon, like Before the fall which is a mix of canon elements and inconsistencies.
To close this up : Mikasa isn’t a freaking parasite. Eren loves her and would never try to kill her. And even if there was a loop, killing Mikasa isn’t a solution to free Eren.
Eren can never be free because he is a slave of his own desire and the deterministic nature of time.
well I think the only thing that we can do is to wait and see :3
Isayama himself said that AoT is a rip-off of Muv Luv. And guess what the story of Muv Luv is? Pretty much exactly this video.
I’m not saying the video is right, we’ll just have to wait and see what happens
I am not saying AOE won’t happen or will happen. I don’t care about that. I am just saying that some of the arguments in this video are wrong or biased.
@@spoontik2933what do you think about it now that the story has officially ended ?
good vid
Sooooo... She's like the Wanda of aot🤔 huh cooool
Can someone explain this video to me !!! I dont understand a thing ! Just finished the last episode .. so Mikasa is the devil now?! She meant to kill Eren ?!!
Okay so....this may not explain the video as I havent rewatched it yet but heres my understanding
Mikasa was given the ability to create parallel worlds(or view into parallel worlds from within her mind) subconsciously, (maybe intentionally at this point) when eren connected to the founding titan and made a vow to always wrap mikasas scarf forever and ever. Though the vow wasnt made intentionally, it was a vow he made which was ingrained into the coordinate by ymir. Which means if she desired she could create infinite timelines where she can live with eren peacefully where he would always wrap her scarf. But in all of those worlds Eren is fated to die cause his will collides with death. He is marked by ymir, the specter of death. When she wishes to see him with great conviction she peers into a reality of her own wishes.
When she thought he died in season 1 she peered into another reality, a reality where the survey corps just shut down and they never had to enlist as soldiers and mikasas parents never died. She was miserable cause she never got to see eren that much, he only visited her house every couple months or such, so she wished for him to visit more, then the ENTIRE UNIVERSE did some magic to make eren visit her more. She got greedy and kept wanting to see him more often, which results in eventually her mother becoming so sick that they literally have to move into the inner capital. She alters her realities. Eren still wraps her scarf cause she was worried he would die, but its not as if she truly cared for eren as a person, the person he was, she didnt care about erens wants or his will as long as he was alive and her version of eren. Eren was miserable in this reality and jumped at the chance to escape the walls, which resulted in him dying for armin in a airplane (hot air balloon). There are possibly other examples i dont remember
chapter 138 Mikasa wants to go home with eren. So she peers into a reality where she had actually and literally made a home with eren, which could only have existed if they ran away in chapter 123(131). But as its said before eren is marked by the specter of death (ymir) so he dies after his curse of ymir reached its end. Plus once again, Eren is unsatisfied and unhappy in this reality. similar to rezero if youve seen it, Subaru in a alternate reality abandoned everything, which made him gravely depressed but he could still smile in the end cause he had a face waiting for him at home. I consider this situation that. Then in the manga its hinted that eren died in the cabin scene due to ymirs curse, cause the first page of that scene was the only numbered page in the ENTIRE manga, it was numbered 13 (13 year curse)
In the end. Isayama grew older and felt more responsible to allow his main characters to survive due to everyone connecting so much with his characters and retconned all of this stuff to pander to a happy ending and eremikas.
it would have been cool though if he wasnt a hack
Dude you're wrong
i dont remember these scenes :O are these in the show, ova, or movie?
Ova